Today's Issues continues on AFR
Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
Tim Wildmon Hey, welcome back to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim Wildmon m here with Ed Vitagliano. And now Steve Paisley Jordan joins us. Good morning, brother Steve.
Steve Jordahl Good morning, everybody.
Tim Wildmon So we were talking about parasailing.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Tim Wildmon I'm thinking about doing in about three or four weeks.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Tim Wildmon We go on family vacation even now down at the beach. Yeah, I'm thinking about doing. I've done it once before. Not, there, but at the Lake of the Ozarks. But, so it, so Steve decides to. Ed. Yeah, Steve decides. I, think I'll show Tim a video clip of, of a parasail adventure where the rope snapped. I call it a rope. I don't know, I guess it's a rope.
Steve Jordahl Yeah, yeah. Not a string.
Tim Wildmon Okay. But, but, the people survived, though. They just floated down to the water, didn't they?
Steve Jordahl Still, they did no, no harm, no foul. A little bit wet.
Tim Wildmon I think that was actually a movie scene with Tom Cruise in it because he does, he does his own stunts.
Steve Jordahl He does kind of.
Tim Wildmon It was. And it was, it was a real.
Ed Vitagliano You know, people, you know, people had the GoPro cameras.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, anyway, I guess there's one in. I wonder if parasol companies advertise that, you know, we're 99% successful.
Ed Vitagliano 99%, yeah. Would you, would you jump out of a plane to go skydiving?
Tim Wildmon That had a 99% success rate.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah. Would you, would you do it?
Tim Wildmon That's a good success rate under most circumstances. Absolutely 99. If you score 99 out of 100 on a test, you've done good. Absolutely 99 on 100 on a what? Yeah, but you can't on a parasol.
Ed Vitagliano You're probably not going to die. Yeah. Get an F on a test.
American Family Radio welcomes Dr. Baruch Korman on Saturday morning
Tim Wildmon All right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Well, we have in studio with us a very special guest. Sometimes our guests aren't special, but, Dr. Baruch Korman. He is the founder of Love Israel, a ministry dedicated to providing verse by verse teaching of the entire Bible from the original languages and Jewish context. His program airs each Saturday here on American Family Radio from noon Central at noon Central time. And, we want to welcome, Doctor. Dr. Corman. Good morning, brother.
Dr. Baruch Korman Good morning. It's very nice to be here. And I'm not a parasailer at all.
Why did you move from the US To Israel
Tim Wildmon So, you know, now you are visiting us here in the US from, your homeland.
Dr. Baruch Korman From, From Israel. We lived in Israel. I've lived in Israel for 25 years. We grew up in the States, but now in Israel.
Tim Wildmon Where'd you grow up? Here.
Dr. Baruch Korman Grew up in Chicago. And after I got married, we moved to Florida, to Miami. We were there for a number of years, but as I said, for the last 25 years, we've been in Israel five years in the Galilee, in the town called Tzfat, and now in the southern part of Israel, not far from Gaza. We're about 25 kilometers, 14, 15 miles from Gaza.
Tim Wildmon Now, why did you move from the US To Israel?
Dr. Baruch Korman Prophetically, we see in the scripture that God has promised. It's not by accident, it's not by coincidence, but God has promised, as the last days approach, to bring the Jewish people back to the land. And I just had a call, a strong desire, don't know why, but to go to Israel. I think it's prophetic. And so we uprooted my family, our family, and went to Israel in, 2000 and been there since.
Tim Wildmon When you say your family, how many of you were there?
Dr. Baruch Korman Well, there's, my wife that, went initially begrudgingly, but she went. And our three children Begrudgingly.
Tim Wildmon How'd you handle that one, honey? Listen, can we go ahead and the Lord has said something I need to tell you.
Dr. Baruch Korman Well, she made a mistake of, saying something. She said, I'll agree to it, but we have some debt we need to pay off and we need one year of living expenses and all the expenses to move over there. And, that was a lot of money, more money than. And we have experience for several years coming in as far as income. And I was working as a congregational leader, but also I worked in financial services. And two days later I got a call and a person said, you know, I'm not happy with, who's handling my money. would you consider And I went over and met with him. Make a long story short, he decided to move his portfolio to our company. And the commission that I received was significantly more than that, my wife's minimal requirement.
Tim Wildmon So that was a sign to you that God was blessing your don't challenge God, do you?
Dr. Baruch Korman I, I took that to mean he was, he was blessing it was his will. I didn't tell my wife. I waited for a commission to come in and everything, and, I called the moving company, I began to get the plane reservations, and then I sat down and I showed her Our bank account showed her the tickets, showed her everything. I said, we're moving on this date.
Tim Wildmon And that's 20 something years ago, 25 years ago.
Steve Jordahl I have to ask, if you're living near the Gaza border, where Were you on October 7th? Were you anywhere close?
Dr. Baruch Korman we were actually at a conference and I was in Venice. The conference was going to be in Italy, so we were not there. Our children were all there.
Steve Jordahl Anywhere close to where all the horrible stuff happened.
Dr. Baruch Korman 15 miles away.
Steve Jordahl Oh my gosh.
Dr. Baruch Korman So our, we woke up, we have what's, what most Israelis have. It's called Seva, Adom, which is the alerts that rockets are coming in. And my wife and I sleep 10 differently. She's a, a very light sleeper, as most men are. We sleep really good. And she was awakened with her phone just going, going ballistic. And soon thereafter our daughter called us and said, we're getting rockets. Every few minutes the sirens are going off and such.
Ed Vitagliano How old are your children?
Dr. Baruch Korman they're adult children. They've all been through the Israeli military. They've all served in the military. So Our youngest is 28. That's who we were talking to. Our oldest is 34.
Ed Vitagliano So how does it work, in terms of citizenship? Your children were born over here, they live over there. Do they become dual citizens?
Dr. Baruch Korman We, do have, we all have dual citizenship. if you can prove based upon rabbinical law, that you are Jewish. Okay, so there's a process you go through. If you are verified that you are of Jewish descent, therefore you can return to Israel under what's called the Law of return, and you are given immediately citizenship, soon thereafter, a passport and you are full Israeli citizens.
Can Jews prove which tribe they come from? No, all records were lost
Ed Vitagliano Okay, so this is a question I've always wanted to ask someone and now I have an opportunity. Okay, so with the, you know, the dispersions of the Jews under various circumstances, I guess the most recent being the Judah, war between the, Jews and the romans or whatever 2,000 years ago. Can, can Jews prove which tribe they come from?
Dr. Baruch Korman No, all those records were lost in the destruction of the second temple, as you pointed out by, by Titus in 70 A.D. so there's no way for, for that to be proven based upon what tribe you're from.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Dr. Baruch Korman And such. So how, how do we prove ourselves?
Ed Vitagliano Right.
Dr. Baruch Korman the main document is called a ketuba, which is the wedding document. So before a, a rabbi. And it's really not the rabbi, but it's what's called a bet in a rabbinical Court prepares the wedding document. They verify that both people are Jewish. Yeah, they, do it in a variety of ways. if you have your parents, Ketubah, that's a good sign. Yeah, that's a good proof. So you prove that you're Jewish. Now today there's another thing they want from people and that is a letter from a rabbi attesting, ah, that he knows personally you to be Jewish.
Ed Vitagliano Okay.
Dr. Baruch Korman So if you have those two documents, that's pretty much what it requires to prove that you're Jewish, that you are born from a Jewish woman. The man does not determine. Now biblically, there's a lot of evidence that it is the man that determines the Jewishness. But under Jewish law today, if your mother's Jewish, you are Jewish. So it depends upon the mother.
Steve Jordahl Are any roadblocks thrown up if you're a Christian?
Dr. Baruch Korman basically, if you are a Christian and Jewish, you are not allowed that, that right of return. therefore you need to, make sure that things are not on the Internet and such. Now I had a lot of things on the Internet where I was unique is that contrary to most Jewish people who are believers, our family was very involved in the Jewish community. we had, the synagogue that we still went to even as believers was the synagogue that hosted a large event which a, large portion of the Jewish community came to. I was the emcee of that, so I knew many of the leaders. I knew what's called the Shliach, which is the person for the Israeli government that officiates whether you get citizenship or not. He knew me personally, or I knew him personally and therefore he made it happen very easily. They didn't do, they just assumed that I wasn't a believer. And therefore they didn't do any of the background or anything that they staunchly do today.
Steve Jordahl Wow.
About 40% of Israel's population is, is secular
Tim Wildmon We're talking to Dr. Baruch Korman, founder of Love Israel. He's heard each Saturday afternoon on American Family Radio from noon to 1:00 Central Time here on AFR with the program Lost in Translation. So, so what do you do? What do you do there? I mean, you do the radio program, but what's the mission? What's your purpose, for your ministry?
Dr. Baruch Korman Our whole ministry is about one thing and that is sharing biblical truth. So we do studies of scripture.
Tim Wildmon Okay.
Dr. Baruch Korman Now in Israel, we do those scriptures obviously, or those teachings in Hebrew because we, our emphasis is not in having an international church there. Our emphasis is reaching Hebrew speaking Israelis with the truth of God's Word. So we do that through seminars. we just completed the, the Passover season, the feast of unleavened bread, which is a very busy time for us because we have seminars, we have different events, we have different groups, home groups that meet in different places. And so we use these, these festivals in order to share biblical truth.
Tim Wildmon What percentage of is. Is. Our Israelis are what you call secular versus religious.
Dr. Baruch Korman Well, you have really two groups in Israel, as you pointed out, secular and then the other group is Orthodox. And when you look at the, the ultra Orthodox community, those with black suits and the beards and the, the pale, the side curls and the black hats, you're talking probably around 20%. But it's growing and it's growing rapidly, based upon the mitzvah, Peru, Urvu, which means be fruitful and multiply. So that's a very important commandment for that community. But then you also have probably about 40% additional to get us up to 60 of, of what's called Dati Lumi, not Haredi, but Dati Lumi, which is our more modern Orthodox. They don't dress in that, that attire.
Ed Vitagliano That like Reform Jews in this country.
Dr. Baruch Korman Well, there's basically no Reform Jews in, in Israel. There's a small group of pockets, mostly Americans that have come over, but it's, it's basically non existent. Okay, so you have Datilumi, which are Orthodox, they follow Jewish law, biblical law, with a rabbinical perspective. And you have the Haredi community, that's about 60%. So to answer your question Tim, about 40% of Israel's population is, is secular.
Tim Wildmon But that's about all of Tel Aviv. Right.
Dr. Baruch Korman oddly enough Tel Aviv is, is changing rapidly. my oldest daughter and son lives in Tel Aviv in southern Tel Aviv in ah, a neighborhood called Shapira. And she's seen growing number of Haredi Jews moving into this community. The largest room, ultra Orthodox community is, is just real close to Tel Aviv. It's called B'nai Barak and there's several hundred thousand in, in that. So Tel Aviv has that reputation. But Tel Aviv's very liberal, because of the, the secularism. Yeah, but there's still a growing and vibrant Jewish altered ultradox communities even in Tel Aviv.
Ed Vitagliano That's very interesting. I, I always thought that Israel was far more secular than that. You're saying 60%, believe in God and respond by living a Orthodox Jewish life.
Dr. Baruch Korman Let me just clarify something. we lived in one of those ultra Orthodox community and we Saw people who were extremely committed to Judaism, but in getting to know them and sharing things with them, they would say, confidentially, I'm not even sure I believe in God.
Dr. Baruch Korman what was important to them was this culture, this. It's great for family life.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Dr. Baruch Korman this was very important to. They were very committed to orthodox life. They enjoyed the community, the benefits of the community, the lifestyle. But. But not necessarily all of them believe in God or that's the motivation.
Ed Vitagliano Very interesting.
Tim Wildmon Dave's fascinating. Further.
Steve Jordahl I am fascinated by it. In fact, I've heard your. Your program and I love listening to it. It's just fascinating, the delving into the Hebrew language and. And what we miss as just if. If just a reader of English Bible. I miss so much.
Ed Vitagliano Well, lost in translation.
Steve Jordahl That's. Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano Name of your program.
Steve Jordahl Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for it.
Dr. Baruch Korman I appreciate those kind words.
Dr. Baruch Korman welcomes Steve to American family radio network
Tim Wildmon All right, well, Dr. Baruch Korman has been our guest, and, we thank you for your ministry and appreciate you stopping by visiting with us while you're in town here in studio.
Dr. Baruch Korman Well, American family rodeo has been a great blessing to us. We have seen, our audience increase, our donor base increase, and it's, directly related to when we began on. On your network. So we're very thankful for that opportunity and privilege to be part of your family.
Tim Wildmon Thank you, Dr. Korman. Dr. Baruch Korman. You're listening to today's issues on the American family radio network. Steve, what's your, what story you have?
Steve Jordahl I just wanted to. Let's start here. you know, yesterday was, may the fourth, the star wars day, right? May the fourth be with you.
Ed Vitagliano May the fourth with you.
Steve Jordahl Well, you know what that makes today, right?
Ed Vitagliano May 5th.
Steve Jordahl May 5th. Our president has a, message on, this May 5th for us. Cut 15.
Sean Farage My fellow Americans, S2 presidente favorito. And I wanted to wish you a very happy cinco de porto. Cinco deporto is a tremendous day to all of the illegals, gang members, drug traffickers, human smugglers, and all around bad hombres. Te vamos a socor de nuestro paisore, as I call it. We're getting you out of our country, Ms. 13. We're getting you out, trend. We're going to get you out, or we're going to put you in Alcatraz. We'll call you trende Alcatraz, because we want to reopen Alcatraz. All my beautiful people, they said to me, sir, they said, senor, why do you want to reopen Alcatraz so badly. I said, mi armano. I got to tell you, you look at it, it's called the Rock. It's named after me. It needs to start acting like it. We are going to rebuild it so beautifully and so strongly and so greatly. We will make Alcatraz great again.
Tim Wildmon Okay, Steve, you better hurry up.
Ed Vitagliano And that wasn't really. But that is funny. Cinco de Porto.
Steve Jordahl Cinco de Porto.
Ed Vitagliano Because today's Cinco de Mayo.
Steve Jordahl Cinco de Mayo. Right. that was a gentleman named Sean Farage, who. I love this guy. He's, ah, we can tell very much a Trump supporter and apologist. Got, a good head on his shoulders and every. So he does a great Trump. So every so often I like to bring him in and hear what our president, almost president is saying. I mean, he didn't say anything that President Trump really wouldn't say. Right.
Ed Vitagliano Probably pieced together things he has said. By the way, Cinco de Mayo, it's not like their Independence Day. It's a, victory over some army, wasn't it? Cinco de Mayo. Second, victory, I think.
Steve Jordahl Yeah. Anyway, it is not their Independence Day.
Ed Vitagliano Right.
Steve Jordahl Not sure what.
Ed Vitagliano So for all our Spanish, speaking listeners or Hispanic individuals. Happy. Cinco de Mayo.
Steve Jordahl Yes.
Tim Wildmon Oh, that's today. Today should be getting a special Mexican food, special prices on,
Ed Vitagliano No, I don't know. They may have Cinco de Mayo special. they might go ask. We have a Mexican restaurant right on the corner up here.
Tim Wildmon Oh, we have 27.
Ed Vitagliano Anyway, I like that guy. That guy is funny.
Tim Wildmon Like you said, they, they parachute dollar generals up everywhere. But if you got an empty building for more than two months, they're going to put a Mexican restaurant in there. It's, it's going to happen and it'll do good business.
Some headlines say Donald Trump doesn't rule out invading Greenland amid World War 3 fears
All right. So, Steve.
Steve Jordahl Yes, sir?
Tim Wildmon Are we going to take over Greenland?
Steve Jordahl Well, it depends on who you talk to. yeah, this is what the president has been saying, and a lot of people are a little bit nervous. some of the headlines I saw said Donald, Trump doesn't rule out invading Greenland amid World War 3 fears. I'm not sure that it's quite to that level, but I will tell you, I'm, looking for, what he did say on this. let's listen to the president. This is what he said.
Tim Wildmon This, Let me just say this is, this is really the president. This is not the guy, the, the guy who impersonates him.
Steve Jordahl No, this is really the president, and this is what he said. When asked about Greenland cut 12.
Donald Trump They think we are going to protect them, and really we are. But the truth is they don't carry their full share and it's unfair to the United States and our.
Ed Vitagliano You are not ruling out military force to take Greenland?
Donald Trump I don't rule it out. I don't say I'm going to do it, but I don't rule out anything. No, not there. We need Greenland very badly. Greenland is a very small amount of people which we'll take care of and we'll cherish them and all of that, but we need that for international security.
Tim Wildmon There's a lot of nervous fishermen in Greenland right now. Ed?
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Tim Wildmon What's going on there?
Ed Vitagliano Look, I love President Trump, and I mentioned in the first hour he is knocking it out of the ballpark and a. In several areas, but there is no way we're going to war. We're not taking Greenland. and the fact that he wouldn't rule it out, listen, that's. You don't say that. Okay. If I was in a conversation with my wife and she said, do you rule out ever having an affair and being unfaithful to me? I don't say, well, I'm not going to do it, but I don't rule it out. Okay, that. You just don't say that because it implies that there is a certain set of circumstances where you would be unfaithful. And for the President to say, I don't rule out taking Greenland by force, he would split the Republican Party right down the middle, probably would get impeached, and MAGA would, would disappear as a political force. I don't think he should be even implying that he should say, of course not. That's the right answer. You say, of course not. But if Greenwood Greenland would like to become a part of the United States, we would cherish the people of Greenland and protect it. That, to me, is the right way of saying it.
Steve Jordahl The President has said this same line about just about anything he's been asked for with regard to military. Are you going to bomb Iran? Well, I'd be stupid if I told. That's different. I know that.
Ed Vitagliano To me, that's different.
Steve Jordahl But anytime you talk to him about strategy, and a military context, he has always said, and, I'm not going to rule anything out. I'm not going to tip my hand. I, I don't think anybody, Well, I don't think anybody as of like last, term would think he'd be anywhere close to, doing that. It's. It is. It's very confusing. I think. It's very.
Ed Vitagliano Why don't you. Why don't you just say no? Not with Greenland.
Steve Jordahl I agree.
Ed Vitagliano Greenland's not the same as the situation with Iran. I wish I could do a really good Donald Trump voice and just say, of course we're not going to invade Greenland. That's not. That's not what America does. The American flag symbolizes freedom. It's not going to symbolize taking your land and your stuff along the same lines.
Steve Jordahl Do you know that? Who's coming to the White House, this week? Mark Carney, the Governor of the 51st state of America going to be meeting with Donald Trump.
Ed Vitagliano Prime Minister Carney?
Steve Jordahl That's right.
Tim Wildmon see, he would be at the.
Steve Jordahl White House this week.
Ed Vitagliano Does he come as friend or foe?
Steve Jordahl Well, I don't know. We haven't ruled out a military takeover of Canada either.
Ed Vitagliano True.
Tim Wildmon that, that.
Ed Vitagliano Anyway, folks, I think my mind.
Tim Wildmon Canadian Prime Minister. What's his name, Marty?
Ed Vitagliano Mark Carney.
Steve Jordahl Mark Carney.
Tim Wildmon I think he's going to call Zelensky to see how things should go at the White House.
Steve Jordahl Maybe.
Tim Wildmon How do I.
Ed Vitagliano How do you think I should act?
Tim Wildmon Well, okay. all right. Thank you for listening to the, program today, everybody. We appreciate it and hope you have a wonderful, rest of your Monday, and we'll see you back here tomorrow.
Today's Issues continues on AFR
Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
Tim Wildmon Hey, welcome back to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim Wildmon m here with Ed Vitagliano. And now Steve Paisley Jordan joins us. Good morning, brother Steve.
Steve Jordahl Good morning, everybody.
Tim Wildmon So we were talking about parasailing.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Tim Wildmon I'm thinking about doing in about three or four weeks.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Tim Wildmon We go on family vacation even now down at the beach. Yeah, I'm thinking about doing. I've done it once before. Not, there, but at the Lake of the Ozarks. But, so it, so Steve decides to. Ed. Yeah, Steve decides. I, think I'll show Tim a video clip of, of a parasail adventure where the rope snapped. I call it a rope. I don't know, I guess it's a rope.
Steve Jordahl Yeah, yeah. Not a string.
Tim Wildmon Okay. But, but, the people survived, though. They just floated down to the water, didn't they?
Steve Jordahl Still, they did no, no harm, no foul. A little bit wet.
Tim Wildmon I think that was actually a movie scene with Tom Cruise in it because he does, he does his own stunts.
Steve Jordahl He does kind of.
Tim Wildmon It was. And it was, it was a real.
Ed Vitagliano You know, people, you know, people had the GoPro cameras.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, anyway, I guess there's one in. I wonder if parasol companies advertise that, you know, we're 99% successful.
Ed Vitagliano 99%, yeah. Would you, would you jump out of a plane to go skydiving?
Tim Wildmon That had a 99% success rate.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah. Would you, would you do it?
Tim Wildmon That's a good success rate under most circumstances. Absolutely 99. If you score 99 out of 100 on a test, you've done good. Absolutely 99 on 100 on a what? Yeah, but you can't on a parasol.
Ed Vitagliano You're probably not going to die. Yeah. Get an F on a test.
American Family Radio welcomes Dr. Baruch Korman on Saturday morning
Tim Wildmon All right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Well, we have in studio with us a very special guest. Sometimes our guests aren't special, but, Dr. Baruch Korman. He is the founder of Love Israel, a ministry dedicated to providing verse by verse teaching of the entire Bible from the original languages and Jewish context. His program airs each Saturday here on American Family Radio from noon Central at noon Central time. And, we want to welcome, Doctor. Dr. Corman. Good morning, brother.
Dr. Baruch Korman Good morning. It's very nice to be here. And I'm not a parasailer at all.
Why did you move from the US To Israel
Tim Wildmon So, you know, now you are visiting us here in the US from, your homeland.
Dr. Baruch Korman From, From Israel. We lived in Israel. I've lived in Israel for 25 years. We grew up in the States, but now in Israel.
Tim Wildmon Where'd you grow up? Here.
Dr. Baruch Korman Grew up in Chicago. And after I got married, we moved to Florida, to Miami. We were there for a number of years, but as I said, for the last 25 years, we've been in Israel five years in the Galilee, in the town called Tzfat, and now in the southern part of Israel, not far from Gaza. We're about 25 kilometers, 14, 15 miles from Gaza.
Tim Wildmon Now, why did you move from the US To Israel?
Dr. Baruch Korman Prophetically, we see in the scripture that God has promised. It's not by accident, it's not by coincidence, but God has promised, as the last days approach, to bring the Jewish people back to the land. And I just had a call, a strong desire, don't know why, but to go to Israel. I think it's prophetic. And so we uprooted my family, our family, and went to Israel in, 2000 and been there since.
Tim Wildmon When you say your family, how many of you were there?
Dr. Baruch Korman Well, there's, my wife that, went initially begrudgingly, but she went. And our three children Begrudgingly.
Tim Wildmon How'd you handle that one, honey? Listen, can we go ahead and the Lord has said something I need to tell you.
Dr. Baruch Korman Well, she made a mistake of, saying something. She said, I'll agree to it, but we have some debt we need to pay off and we need one year of living expenses and all the expenses to move over there. And, that was a lot of money, more money than. And we have experience for several years coming in as far as income. And I was working as a congregational leader, but also I worked in financial services. And two days later I got a call and a person said, you know, I'm not happy with, who's handling my money. would you consider And I went over and met with him. Make a long story short, he decided to move his portfolio to our company. And the commission that I received was significantly more than that, my wife's minimal requirement.
Tim Wildmon So that was a sign to you that God was blessing your don't challenge God, do you?
Dr. Baruch Korman I, I took that to mean he was, he was blessing it was his will. I didn't tell my wife. I waited for a commission to come in and everything, and, I called the moving company, I began to get the plane reservations, and then I sat down and I showed her Our bank account showed her the tickets, showed her everything. I said, we're moving on this date.
Tim Wildmon And that's 20 something years ago, 25 years ago.
Steve Jordahl I have to ask, if you're living near the Gaza border, where Were you on October 7th? Were you anywhere close?
Dr. Baruch Korman we were actually at a conference and I was in Venice. The conference was going to be in Italy, so we were not there. Our children were all there.
Steve Jordahl Anywhere close to where all the horrible stuff happened.
Dr. Baruch Korman 15 miles away.
Steve Jordahl Oh my gosh.
Dr. Baruch Korman So our, we woke up, we have what's, what most Israelis have. It's called Seva, Adom, which is the alerts that rockets are coming in. And my wife and I sleep 10 differently. She's a, a very light sleeper, as most men are. We sleep really good. And she was awakened with her phone just going, going ballistic. And soon thereafter our daughter called us and said, we're getting rockets. Every few minutes the sirens are going off and such.
Ed Vitagliano How old are your children?
Dr. Baruch Korman they're adult children. They've all been through the Israeli military. They've all served in the military. So Our youngest is 28. That's who we were talking to. Our oldest is 34.
Ed Vitagliano So how does it work, in terms of citizenship? Your children were born over here, they live over there. Do they become dual citizens?
Dr. Baruch Korman We, do have, we all have dual citizenship. if you can prove based upon rabbinical law, that you are Jewish. Okay, so there's a process you go through. If you are verified that you are of Jewish descent, therefore you can return to Israel under what's called the Law of return, and you are given immediately citizenship, soon thereafter, a passport and you are full Israeli citizens.
Can Jews prove which tribe they come from? No, all records were lost
Ed Vitagliano Okay, so this is a question I've always wanted to ask someone and now I have an opportunity. Okay, so with the, you know, the dispersions of the Jews under various circumstances, I guess the most recent being the Judah, war between the, Jews and the romans or whatever 2,000 years ago. Can, can Jews prove which tribe they come from?
Dr. Baruch Korman No, all those records were lost in the destruction of the second temple, as you pointed out by, by Titus in 70 A.D. so there's no way for, for that to be proven based upon what tribe you're from.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Dr. Baruch Korman And such. So how, how do we prove ourselves?
Ed Vitagliano Right.
Dr. Baruch Korman the main document is called a ketuba, which is the wedding document. So before a, a rabbi. And it's really not the rabbi, but it's what's called a bet in a rabbinical Court prepares the wedding document. They verify that both people are Jewish. Yeah, they, do it in a variety of ways. if you have your parents, Ketubah, that's a good sign. Yeah, that's a good proof. So you prove that you're Jewish. Now today there's another thing they want from people and that is a letter from a rabbi attesting, ah, that he knows personally you to be Jewish.
Ed Vitagliano Okay.
Dr. Baruch Korman So if you have those two documents, that's pretty much what it requires to prove that you're Jewish, that you are born from a Jewish woman. The man does not determine. Now biblically, there's a lot of evidence that it is the man that determines the Jewishness. But under Jewish law today, if your mother's Jewish, you are Jewish. So it depends upon the mother.
Steve Jordahl Are any roadblocks thrown up if you're a Christian?
Dr. Baruch Korman basically, if you are a Christian and Jewish, you are not allowed that, that right of return. therefore you need to, make sure that things are not on the Internet and such. Now I had a lot of things on the Internet where I was unique is that contrary to most Jewish people who are believers, our family was very involved in the Jewish community. we had, the synagogue that we still went to even as believers was the synagogue that hosted a large event which a, large portion of the Jewish community came to. I was the emcee of that, so I knew many of the leaders. I knew what's called the Shliach, which is the person for the Israeli government that officiates whether you get citizenship or not. He knew me personally, or I knew him personally and therefore he made it happen very easily. They didn't do, they just assumed that I wasn't a believer. And therefore they didn't do any of the background or anything that they staunchly do today.
Steve Jordahl Wow.
About 40% of Israel's population is, is secular
Tim Wildmon We're talking to Dr. Baruch Korman, founder of Love Israel. He's heard each Saturday afternoon on American Family Radio from noon to 1:00 Central Time here on AFR with the program Lost in Translation. So, so what do you do? What do you do there? I mean, you do the radio program, but what's the mission? What's your purpose, for your ministry?
Dr. Baruch Korman Our whole ministry is about one thing and that is sharing biblical truth. So we do studies of scripture.
Tim Wildmon Okay.
Dr. Baruch Korman Now in Israel, we do those scriptures obviously, or those teachings in Hebrew because we, our emphasis is not in having an international church there. Our emphasis is reaching Hebrew speaking Israelis with the truth of God's Word. So we do that through seminars. we just completed the, the Passover season, the feast of unleavened bread, which is a very busy time for us because we have seminars, we have different events, we have different groups, home groups that meet in different places. And so we use these, these festivals in order to share biblical truth.
Tim Wildmon What percentage of is. Is. Our Israelis are what you call secular versus religious.
Dr. Baruch Korman Well, you have really two groups in Israel, as you pointed out, secular and then the other group is Orthodox. And when you look at the, the ultra Orthodox community, those with black suits and the beards and the, the pale, the side curls and the black hats, you're talking probably around 20%. But it's growing and it's growing rapidly, based upon the mitzvah, Peru, Urvu, which means be fruitful and multiply. So that's a very important commandment for that community. But then you also have probably about 40% additional to get us up to 60 of, of what's called Dati Lumi, not Haredi, but Dati Lumi, which is our more modern Orthodox. They don't dress in that, that attire.
Ed Vitagliano That like Reform Jews in this country.
Dr. Baruch Korman Well, there's basically no Reform Jews in, in Israel. There's a small group of pockets, mostly Americans that have come over, but it's, it's basically non existent. Okay, so you have Datilumi, which are Orthodox, they follow Jewish law, biblical law, with a rabbinical perspective. And you have the Haredi community, that's about 60%. So to answer your question Tim, about 40% of Israel's population is, is secular.
Tim Wildmon But that's about all of Tel Aviv. Right.
Dr. Baruch Korman oddly enough Tel Aviv is, is changing rapidly. my oldest daughter and son lives in Tel Aviv in southern Tel Aviv in ah, a neighborhood called Shapira. And she's seen growing number of Haredi Jews moving into this community. The largest room, ultra Orthodox community is, is just real close to Tel Aviv. It's called B'nai Barak and there's several hundred thousand in, in that. So Tel Aviv has that reputation. But Tel Aviv's very liberal, because of the, the secularism. Yeah, but there's still a growing and vibrant Jewish altered ultradox communities even in Tel Aviv.
Ed Vitagliano That's very interesting. I, I always thought that Israel was far more secular than that. You're saying 60%, believe in God and respond by living a Orthodox Jewish life.
Dr. Baruch Korman Let me just clarify something. we lived in one of those ultra Orthodox community and we Saw people who were extremely committed to Judaism, but in getting to know them and sharing things with them, they would say, confidentially, I'm not even sure I believe in God.
Dr. Baruch Korman what was important to them was this culture, this. It's great for family life.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Dr. Baruch Korman this was very important to. They were very committed to orthodox life. They enjoyed the community, the benefits of the community, the lifestyle. But. But not necessarily all of them believe in God or that's the motivation.
Ed Vitagliano Very interesting.
Tim Wildmon Dave's fascinating. Further.
Steve Jordahl I am fascinated by it. In fact, I've heard your. Your program and I love listening to it. It's just fascinating, the delving into the Hebrew language and. And what we miss as just if. If just a reader of English Bible. I miss so much.
Ed Vitagliano Well, lost in translation.
Steve Jordahl That's. Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano Name of your program.
Steve Jordahl Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for it.
Dr. Baruch Korman I appreciate those kind words.
Dr. Baruch Korman welcomes Steve to American family radio network
Tim Wildmon All right, well, Dr. Baruch Korman has been our guest, and, we thank you for your ministry and appreciate you stopping by visiting with us while you're in town here in studio.
Dr. Baruch Korman Well, American family rodeo has been a great blessing to us. We have seen, our audience increase, our donor base increase, and it's, directly related to when we began on. On your network. So we're very thankful for that opportunity and privilege to be part of your family.
Tim Wildmon Thank you, Dr. Korman. Dr. Baruch Korman. You're listening to today's issues on the American family radio network. Steve, what's your, what story you have?
Steve Jordahl I just wanted to. Let's start here. you know, yesterday was, may the fourth, the star wars day, right? May the fourth be with you.
Ed Vitagliano May the fourth with you.
Steve Jordahl Well, you know what that makes today, right?
Ed Vitagliano May 5th.
Steve Jordahl May 5th. Our president has a, message on, this May 5th for us. Cut 15.
Sean Farage My fellow Americans, S2 presidente favorito. And I wanted to wish you a very happy cinco de porto. Cinco deporto is a tremendous day to all of the illegals, gang members, drug traffickers, human smugglers, and all around bad hombres. Te vamos a socor de nuestro paisore, as I call it. We're getting you out of our country, Ms. 13. We're getting you out, trend. We're going to get you out, or we're going to put you in Alcatraz. We'll call you trende Alcatraz, because we want to reopen Alcatraz. All my beautiful people, they said to me, sir, they said, senor, why do you want to reopen Alcatraz so badly. I said, mi armano. I got to tell you, you look at it, it's called the Rock. It's named after me. It needs to start acting like it. We are going to rebuild it so beautifully and so strongly and so greatly. We will make Alcatraz great again.
Tim Wildmon Okay, Steve, you better hurry up.
Ed Vitagliano And that wasn't really. But that is funny. Cinco de Porto.
Steve Jordahl Cinco de Porto.
Ed Vitagliano Because today's Cinco de Mayo.
Steve Jordahl Cinco de Mayo. Right. that was a gentleman named Sean Farage, who. I love this guy. He's, ah, we can tell very much a Trump supporter and apologist. Got, a good head on his shoulders and every. So he does a great Trump. So every so often I like to bring him in and hear what our president, almost president is saying. I mean, he didn't say anything that President Trump really wouldn't say. Right.
Ed Vitagliano Probably pieced together things he has said. By the way, Cinco de Mayo, it's not like their Independence Day. It's a, victory over some army, wasn't it? Cinco de Mayo. Second, victory, I think.
Steve Jordahl Yeah. Anyway, it is not their Independence Day.
Ed Vitagliano Right.
Steve Jordahl Not sure what.
Ed Vitagliano So for all our Spanish, speaking listeners or Hispanic individuals. Happy. Cinco de Mayo.
Steve Jordahl Yes.
Tim Wildmon Oh, that's today. Today should be getting a special Mexican food, special prices on,
Ed Vitagliano No, I don't know. They may have Cinco de Mayo special. they might go ask. We have a Mexican restaurant right on the corner up here.
Tim Wildmon Oh, we have 27.
Ed Vitagliano Anyway, I like that guy. That guy is funny.
Tim Wildmon Like you said, they, they parachute dollar generals up everywhere. But if you got an empty building for more than two months, they're going to put a Mexican restaurant in there. It's, it's going to happen and it'll do good business.
Some headlines say Donald Trump doesn't rule out invading Greenland amid World War 3 fears
All right. So, Steve.
Steve Jordahl Yes, sir?
Tim Wildmon Are we going to take over Greenland?
Steve Jordahl Well, it depends on who you talk to. yeah, this is what the president has been saying, and a lot of people are a little bit nervous. some of the headlines I saw said Donald, Trump doesn't rule out invading Greenland amid World War 3 fears. I'm not sure that it's quite to that level, but I will tell you, I'm, looking for, what he did say on this. let's listen to the president. This is what he said.
Tim Wildmon This, Let me just say this is, this is really the president. This is not the guy, the, the guy who impersonates him.
Steve Jordahl No, this is really the president, and this is what he said. When asked about Greenland cut 12.
Donald Trump They think we are going to protect them, and really we are. But the truth is they don't carry their full share and it's unfair to the United States and our.
Ed Vitagliano You are not ruling out military force to take Greenland?
Donald Trump I don't rule it out. I don't say I'm going to do it, but I don't rule out anything. No, not there. We need Greenland very badly. Greenland is a very small amount of people which we'll take care of and we'll cherish them and all of that, but we need that for international security.
Tim Wildmon There's a lot of nervous fishermen in Greenland right now. Ed?
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Tim Wildmon What's going on there?
Ed Vitagliano Look, I love President Trump, and I mentioned in the first hour he is knocking it out of the ballpark and a. In several areas, but there is no way we're going to war. We're not taking Greenland. and the fact that he wouldn't rule it out, listen, that's. You don't say that. Okay. If I was in a conversation with my wife and she said, do you rule out ever having an affair and being unfaithful to me? I don't say, well, I'm not going to do it, but I don't rule it out. Okay, that. You just don't say that because it implies that there is a certain set of circumstances where you would be unfaithful. And for the President to say, I don't rule out taking Greenland by force, he would split the Republican Party right down the middle, probably would get impeached, and MAGA would, would disappear as a political force. I don't think he should be even implying that he should say, of course not. That's the right answer. You say, of course not. But if Greenwood Greenland would like to become a part of the United States, we would cherish the people of Greenland and protect it. That, to me, is the right way of saying it.
Steve Jordahl The President has said this same line about just about anything he's been asked for with regard to military. Are you going to bomb Iran? Well, I'd be stupid if I told. That's different. I know that.
Ed Vitagliano To me, that's different.
Steve Jordahl But anytime you talk to him about strategy, and a military context, he has always said, and, I'm not going to rule anything out. I'm not going to tip my hand. I, I don't think anybody, Well, I don't think anybody as of like last, term would think he'd be anywhere close to, doing that. It's. It is. It's very confusing. I think. It's very.
Ed Vitagliano Why don't you. Why don't you just say no? Not with Greenland.
Steve Jordahl I agree.
Ed Vitagliano Greenland's not the same as the situation with Iran. I wish I could do a really good Donald Trump voice and just say, of course we're not going to invade Greenland. That's not. That's not what America does. The American flag symbolizes freedom. It's not going to symbolize taking your land and your stuff along the same lines.
Steve Jordahl Do you know that? Who's coming to the White House, this week? Mark Carney, the Governor of the 51st state of America going to be meeting with Donald Trump.
Ed Vitagliano Prime Minister Carney?
Steve Jordahl That's right.
Tim Wildmon see, he would be at the.
Steve Jordahl White House this week.
Ed Vitagliano Does he come as friend or foe?
Steve Jordahl Well, I don't know. We haven't ruled out a military takeover of Canada either.
Ed Vitagliano True.
Tim Wildmon that, that.
Ed Vitagliano Anyway, folks, I think my mind.
Tim Wildmon Canadian Prime Minister. What's his name, Marty?
Ed Vitagliano Mark Carney.
Steve Jordahl Mark Carney.
Tim Wildmon I think he's going to call Zelensky to see how things should go at the White House.
Steve Jordahl Maybe.
Tim Wildmon How do I.
Ed Vitagliano How do you think I should act?
Tim Wildmon Well, okay. all right. Thank you for listening to the, program today, everybody. We appreciate it and hope you have a wonderful, rest of your Monday, and we'll see you back here tomorrow.
Tim and Ed talk with Steve on top news headlines of the day. Also, Dr. Baruch Korman joins the program to discuss his ministry and Israel.
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