The American Family Association's mission is to strengthen moral foundations of our culture

>> Abraham Hamilton III: The American Family Association's mission is to inform, equip, and activate individuals to strengthen the moral foundations of our culture. Our goal is to be a leading organization in biblical worldview training for cultural transformation. We stand on the biblical truth that all human beings, including the unborn, are created in the image of God and are endowed by him with the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

>>  : Thank you for standing with the American Family Association. Welcome to today's issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to the radio program Today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Today's Thursday, August 6, 2026. Thanks for listening to American Family Radio AFR. joining me m in studio is Wesley.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wow.

>> Tim Wildmon: Good morning, Wesley.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Howdy.

>> Tim Wildmon: I like that.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Trying to change it up. You know, I'm not usually on on a Thursday.

>> Tim Wildmon: Every time on trivia Friday, we have a Texan call in.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: J.J. says howdy. Yeah, he just said that's his subconsciously or purposely? Well, it's just Texas. He just thinks everybody in te talks that way. And I guess they do. I don't know. Howdy is a common Texan expression. Howdy, Fred. Bonjour, Mesa Fred Jackson, who hails from Canada. Stolen a little French back at me there.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: bonjour. What, mes ami? What does that mean, my friends? Oh, my. All right. Well, thank you.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Hello, my friends.

>> Fred Jackson: Hello, my friends. Hello. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. Krish Woodward. Good morning, Krish.

>> Chris Woodward: Buenos dias.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, I was waiting for that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, he what did Krish come with their Spanish?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. Buenos.

>> Tim Wildmon: What does that mean?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Good morning.

>> Steve Deace: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: you might not have been here last week, but I said, after I surprised Ed with a hey. He was like, oh, you're not. You don't want to be here today. And I said I was going to try to. I was going to change my hello. kind of like a Dick Vanliere Dyke situation, where you don't know if he's going to sidestep the ottoman or just tumble over it. So you'll have to tune in every day to see how I might greet you when I'm blessed to be on this program.

American Family Radio is multicultural right here. And we don't care what color you are

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so just to be clear, ladies and gentlemen, we are multicultural right here. I was going, sir, we all may be white dudes. We can realize off some international language.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And we've seen just the positive effects, too, of multiculturalism over the last few years.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, we hear about here on the set. I would say, well, French people are considered white people, right?

>> Fred Jackson: Absolutely, yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Canadian. Most Canadian. Now, there are obviously, French and Canadians of other colors, but I'm just saying that also included.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: People of the white color.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Fred, Wesley, Tim and Krish. And we don't care what color you are, folks.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, we.

>> Tim Wildmon: We don't care what. We don't care if you're a Greene Martian. We just appreciate you listening to American Family Radio. Because you know what, And I say this sincerely, we need as many good questions as possible. It doesn't matter.

>> Wesley Wildmon: okay. Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: It doesn't matter. The most important thing in your life, in my life is our relationship to God.

>> Fred Jackson: Amen.

>> Tim Wildmon: And Jesus Christ.

>> Fred Jackson: Amen.

>> Tim Wildmon: Because actually, when you become a Christian, your bond is more with your spiritual brothers and sisters than it even is with your blood. Can. true. Isn't it true, Fred?

>> Fred Jackson: Brothers and sisters.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. So that's why Christians call each other that brothers and sisters and have for ages. Go ahead, Wesley.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And just to add to that, the next important thing is to learn and adapt our. Adjust our lives to God's written word, which is the Bible.

>> Tim Wildmon: Amen.

>> Wesley Wildmon: He's given us that as our, compass to life. And at any point that we feel like we're getting off or we're unsure, the Bible points us true north.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. Amen. so, you're listening to today's issues Again, we appreciate you listening each and every day. And we're going to have a bottom of the hour update on our national Truth for Youth Bible Campaign. Is, Tim Todd going to be on? Brother Tim Todd, always full of energy and enthusiasm. He's going to join us from the, Revival Fires Ministry headquarters. We are doing great. we are doing great in terms of the numbers of Bibles that we're getting out to teenagers across America this week. It's back to school week for a lot of people across the country. And so that's why this Truth for Youth Bible Campaign week do annually, you know, coincides with Back to School for a lot of kids, across the country. So that's coming up at the bottom of the hour. Anything Fred or Wesley I need to say before Krish, starts in on

>> Wesley Wildmon: the news here, I do want to mention the phone number for Truth for Youth. That's okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Phone number for Truth for the Youth Bible Week that we have here is 800-733-4737. The phone number again is 1-800-733-4737. By calling and giving a gift. You will be able to help us get, share, as many Bibles with the youth as possible. So.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, Amen. So we'll give you more, information on that at the bottom of the hour. By the way, I said green Martians are welcome because I don't know if Martians are all green or not. So we welcome Martians of any color, actually, who want to listen to American Family Radio and identify with our message. You are welcome here.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Amen.

>> Fred Jackson: Absolutely.

>> Ron Johnson: Amen.

>> Tim Wildmon: M. Yes, Krish, go ahead.

Senate committee votes to hold Dr. Anthony Fauci in contempt of Congress

What's the first story today?

>> Chris Woodward: Well, it's our top story on American family news and afn.net at the moment. And I say that because, just earlier this morning, a Senate committee voted to hold Dr. Anthony Fauci in contempt of Congress and refer him to the Justice Department for potential prosecution over his refusal to answer questions at a hearing last week focused on his handling of the Cove 19 pandemic. As we have discussed several times in this program, Fauci pleaded the fifth 111 times.

>> Tim Wildmon: Very disappointing.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. And so Senators, Rand Paul and Ron Johnson, they didn't like that. and they are claiming that the part President Joe Biden gave Fauci in early 2025 only covers events leading up to 2025. Therefore, he still could have perjured himself. I have, another thing to share here. Senator Ron Johnson is claiming to be in possession of a phone that Fauci has used in recent years as well. All of this is going into, not

>> Tim Wildmon: a stolen phone, just to be clear. This was a government, as I understand, a government issued phone that Dr. Anthony Fauci used while he was in the position, he was in during COVID Go ahead.

>> Wesley Wildmon: When we talked about this yesterday, in short, with the information at the time, we didn't have that information. So that's new information that's on top

>> Chris Woodward: of the diary that we've discussed a lot on this program here. Bottom line, this is not the last time that we're going to hear about or talk about Dr. Fauci in this contempt hearing. And I say that because in this audio you're going to hear from Ron Johnson. We're just getting started.

>> Ron Johnson: Clip 3 I am definitely going to vote yes on contempt of Congress, and my investigation has just begun. We've invited Dr. Fauci for a transcribed interview. Okay. He doesn't want to do it in front of the American public. Come in front of our, front of our committee. We'll go through detail and detail. You say you have nothing to hide. Good. We'll do it behind closed doors. We'll transcribe it. They'll. That's only one of the interviews we'll be conducting. So again, last week's hearing just began. The accountability.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, go ahead, Wesley.

>> Wesley Wildmon: The one thing I'll add. We've seen things like this in history with government officials where we believe or we feel like we have great information, or proof that they've done wrong. And there's many times where ultimately nothing really happens out of it. Whether something happens out of this or not legally, I'm just thankful that somebody still putting his feet to the fire, making them answer questions and making him go through the. And I guess the trouble of having to show up and so I'm, We can talk about this a year from now. As long as he's standing there and having to answer on up or hope, be held accountable and put him through the. Put him through some trouble to explain himself, even if nothing really comes out of it.

Tim Ferriss: Dr. Anthony Fauci set policy after Covid

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, Fred, I'm going to ask you a question. And I do this with my wife Allison from time to time. I just explain this to me like I'm a third grader.

>> Fred Jackson: All right?

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so let me add to that. I'm gonna play also. I'm gonna play Captain Naive here. Okay. Okay, I'm gonna play Captain Naive and you give me the answers because these are going to be questions that most of our listeners go, duh. You don't know. You don't know that, Tim, Come on. Yes, I do know that, but I need to ask it anyway because I need to have.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Set it up.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, set it up. So Dr. Anthony Fauci, who. Nobody knew his name before Cove He was, His job was what?

>> Fred Jackson: Basically, he set policy in place when Covid broke out. He was the guy in charge, the quarterback that set policy as to how the nation was going to deal with

>> Tim Wildmon: COVID because his organization, he was. His title was. What. Do you remember what was the name of the group? National Infectious.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I got it right here.

>> Tim Wildmon: I've forgotten what the name of it is.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I will get it for you. We mentioned it yesterday. We had to look it up because

>> Tim Wildmon: it is lengthy, but I will use the infectious diseases.

>> Chris Woodward: Correct.

>> Tim Wildmon: in other words, he was. He was.

>> Wesley Wildmon: There you go. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. That's what he was.

>> Tim Wildmon: National Institute of Algae and what?

>> Wesley Wildmon: National Institution of Algae and Infectious Diseases.

>> Fred Jackson: No, it wasn't algae.

>> Tim Wildmon: Did I say algae?

>> Wesley Wildmon: No, allergy, sir. I said. I said allergy you said allergy, and then I repeated what you said.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so it's the National Institute of what?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, I toured there. Yeah, their building is fascinating.

>> Chris Woodward: One of the footsteps of.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, they had, they had algae everywhere. They had algae where they had a Ferris wheel outside. It was really fun. but anyway, the point is that when. When Covid hit, he was looked to as the top doctor or scientist on this, so. But nobody knew who he was. And then he's. President Trump didn't even know who he was.

>> Fred Jackson: No.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, here's where I want to ask you. What's going on? What's going on here? Here he is now some. Whatever it is, five years post Covid, and in the eyes of millions of Americans, this guy's a villain. Okay. And that. And you can't. The. The. The things that he, won't answer for and, And. And. Or has lied about. I'm going. Here's where I come in, Captain Naive. I'm going. Why would you do that? What purpose does it serve for you to get entangled in things, Dr. Anthony Fauci, that ends you up into your career in disgrace, in the eyes, a distinguished career. And now you're ending up taking the Fifth Amendment 111 times by the United States Senate. So what would be the motivation for Anthony Fauci to. Get into these problems? That's my question.

>> Fred Jackson: Okay. we have to go back six years, roughly. The nation became in a panic. COVID 19. We started to hear, especially among elderly nursing homes, people were dying. so people got very scared. And, basically you had a nation in great fear, and they were willing to do anything to stop this, to protect us from this vicious virus that had come into the country. You remember, there was talk about it was coming from China. There was admission it was coming from China, and flights were still allowed to come in from China. So there was worry that this was going to be a pandemic, that people, regardless of age, whatever the case, it

>> Tim Wildmon: was an unstoppable pandemic. Now, Trump did shut down some of the flies from China.

>> Fred Jackson: They did. They did.

>> Tim Wildmon: But this was. The cat was already out of the bag.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes. So, President Trump, they're looking for an expert. Tell us what we need to do.

Anthony Fauci became the trusted voice at that time

And so Anthony Fauci became the trusted voice at that time. Well, first of all, he didn't believe in mass, but then he believed in mass. 6ft departure. don't go into, nursing homes to visit your people.

>> Tim Wildmon: Don't Go into hospitals, shut down the whole economy. Right. In the name of stock. Of slowing the spread.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes, we.

>> Tim Wildmon: And everybody's trying to figure out, okay, flatten the curve. Yes. And when you have a, something that's never happened before, and it involves an infectious, we've had.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Let me say this, though. We have had pandemics before. What? You mean we didn't have a Covid.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Which was a pandemic.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, but we have. We've had experience.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I've had pandemics before, but many years ago. Right. So my point. So go ahead.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: So Anthony Fauci becomes the guy everybody's looking to. Republicans, Democrats, conservatives. I mean, what I'm saying is nobody might not have agreed with Anthony, Fauci's politics. He's a Democrat, I think. But you're looking to him for expertise like we would look to any doctor.

>> Fred Jackson: Fear drove us to trust this man.

Tim Ferriss: There was initial panic that the shot was the solution

All right. But then as this began to unfold, there were some voices who came forward and said, wait a minute. Where's the proof that six feet, is needed of separation? What about the masks? Because if you just throw a cloth on your face, is that going to stop the virus?

>> Wesley Wildmon: And the shot.

>> Fred Jackson: And the shot. And people began to say. Then people began to.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, the shot came several months later.

>> Fred Jackson: Then people began to talk about, wait a minute, there's some cases over here where ivermectin appears to be working. And then we were told, keep your mouth shut. In fact, we're going to check that out.

>> Tim Wildmon: Stop right there. And I know people may be bored with this topic, but I want to ask you. Stop right there. Why would, somebody, Even somebody like Dr. Fauci or somebody, why would they care if ivermectin was working to treat people with Cove and helping them? Why would the medical community in America, the professional medical community in m. America. Why? I'm just. I'm trying to get to the bottom of. Why would they care whether Ivermectin, for example, worked?

>> Fred Jackson: This is where speculation comes in.

>> Tim Wildmon: Speculation. But go ahead.

>> Wesley Wildmon: It's.

>> Fred Jackson: This is where people began to say, wait a minute. What would you have against. Just as you just outlined, Tim, against a possible avenue to help people who had had this virus. Ivermectin appeared to be working on some people.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I know some. I know one particular man that saved his life.

>> Fred Jackson: However, we do know that the federal government had invested billions of dollars with big pharma to come up with a solution.

>> Tim Wildmon: Remember all the ventilators we were on order.

>> Fred Jackson: Oh, yeah. So billions, of dollars have been invested in a solution. And I'm putting air quotes there. A solution. So because we have so much invested in this solution, we got to stick with this and we have to, denigrate any other possibilities or any questions that this solution that we're coming up with is going to be all, end all. It's going to help everybody. So what happened was that initial panic and that initial thought that this is the solution, it began to unravel and of course. And it's continued to unravel over the last several years, which has prompted questions. Let's go back and find out. So in recent months, we find out about the Fauci diary. Now the Fauci phone, where he himself was kind of debating or at least admitting, hey, you know, six feet. Really? Where did you get that? Where'd you get the 6ft thing? I don't know. There's no science to that. And then we talked about the mass and there was nothing in the separation and don't go visit people. And I mean, my sister had to talk to relatives. She had to sit on a front porch and talk through a window. She wasn't allowed to go into a house. There were, there were stipulations put in place where people were going to be fined.

>> Fred Jackson: If you broke any of these rules, churches couldn't meet and you couldn't question the science that was being put out. We were told we couldn't be on YouTube anymore because we mentioned Ivermectin, all of those things. So since then, all of these questions have come about.

Rand Paul asks Anthony Fauci to appear before Homeland Security committee

What happened last week was that Anthony Fauci was asked to appear in the wake of the discovery of this diary. was asked to appear at this hearing. it's the Homeland Security, committee Senate hearing with Rand Paul. Senator Rand Paul, we want you to come in because we have questions now that we only. We believe you can answer. And, and the questions were really about what you were saying at the time, Dr. Fauci, and what we're now seeing on this, your personal diary at that

>> Tim Wildmon: was on a government platform, at least, which contradicted it.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes. But throw this into the mix of this. Before Joe Biden left office, he gave Anthony Fauci carte blanche. Pardons.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Pre Pardon.

>> Fred Jackson: Pre pardon.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Because he wouldn't pardon for something he already been.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: So it was from 2012 to 2025. All right. The day that Biden issued this, pre pardon. Anything that Foushee might have done, he couldn't be charged again.

>> Tim Wildmon: That begs the question, why would you do something like that? If you're. If you're Joe Biden, for example, why would you. Why would you try to protect a man you don't even know what he has or hasn't done, and you're giving him a, get out of jail card for 10 years. I mean, that just seems that. That screams, that he's guilty of sin, of something that Biden and the Democrats, and maybe even some Republicans don't want discovered.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes, I think I may have an answer. And again, bring forth your answer, Chris. Speculation, much like pride and money, is the reason why they didn't get behind Ivermectin as a cheap and easy solution for at least some people. Many people, Biden wanted to pardon him because anything Fauci did wrong makes Biden look bad. And presidents are always worried about their, quote, legacy.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, it ain't helping him now.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Nope.

>> Tim Wildmon: right now, talking about Dr. Anthony Fauci. So Anthony Fauci last week goes before the Senate committee, we know. And pleaded the Fifth Amendment. That's the amendment, against self incrimination

>> Wesley Wildmon: over the color carpet.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Included.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. 111 times. 111 times you just go, why, why do you even show up.

>> Ron Johnson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Why do you even come to the hearing if you're going to throw out and you got lawyers behind you and everything like that? As I said yesterday.

>> Fred Jackson: Well, he was subpoenaed. He didn't have a.

>> Tim Wildmon: He didn't have a choice. Okay. He was. They had. Congress has subpoena authority.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So he had to. He had to go. And. And he should have gone because he was, you know, he had a lot of questions that he was supposed to answer. I've said before, and I don't know the legal technicalities of this, but I've said before, I don't believe. I don't believe a government official should be able. I don't care if it's state, local, or national, should be able to plead the Fifth Amendment at a hearing. Fifth Amendment, to me, is reserved for a criminal court case where you're charged with a crime. M. With a crime that you, don't want to incriminate yourself with. This is not. He may have committed crimes. I don't know. But this is a hearing where you're asked questions, why did you do this? Why did you say this?

>> Wesley Wildmon: What do you know about this?

>> Tim Wildmon: And what do you know about this? And all you do is answer it. And if you say, I don't know, I don't remember, I don't recall, which is, used oftentimes then you say that. But when you plead the fifth Amendment, you're saying the doubt then becomes whether you're even telling the truth at all about anything.

>> Ron Johnson: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: And the issue right now before this committee is that because you got this pre pardon, the fifth Amendment doesn't apply to you because anything you say that went on in that period cannot be

>> Tim Wildmon: used against you anyway.

>> Fred Jackson: Cannot be used against you anyway.

>> Tim Wildmon: That is a very good point.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. So that's the argument that Senator Rand Paul is using. And what they voted on this morning was to send this issue of contempt. That's what they voted on this morning. Anthony Fauci, you're guilty of contempt descended directly to the Justice Department versus sending the finding of the committee to the whole Senate.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: Now this morning the Democrat senators on this committee said, well, you're trying to rush things. And Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin came back and said, what are you talking about? We've been trying to investigate this for six years. How can you accuse us of trying to rush things through? We just want to ask questions.

>> Tim Wildmon: let's see. Fred, let me throw another thing in here. Again, this is pure speculation. I have no evidence to support this. There's another couple things going on here. You know the expression follow the money?

>> Fred Jackson: Mm

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's where I was going. Oh yeah.

Anthony Fauci and the medical establishment that I have doubts about

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Well, this is how, yes. The world spins around on its axis. and then the second most, truism in life is follow the money.

>> Fred Jackson: Yep. Yep.

>> Tim Wildmon: so what were you going to say? And this involved Dr. Anthony Fauci and the medical establishment that I have doubts, about. Go ahead.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So Dr. Fauci served in American public health sector for more than 50 years and had been an advisor to every US President since Ronald Reagan. And you mean to tell me this is. I'm man on the street here. You mean to tell me that he could. He didn't know between week one where, you need to. You. You don't need a mask. And then week three, you need to be wearing a mask? You mean somebody who served in science.

>> Tim Wildmon: In science change on something so fundamental.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Mask. No.

>> Tim Wildmon: Within three weeks.

>> Wesley Wildmon: 50 years of studying what a mask can do to diseases. Yes. No.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So follow the money. Okay. Don't. You don't need a mas. Would you take the time to do that? It's not necessary to m. And then we sell masks like crazy and then we push people away. That don't have masks on, the division of the mask, I mean, the cells of the mask and the division of the mask. And then they can control what you do and don't do if you don't have a mask on.

>> Tim Wildmon: And this divided families and businesses and our, poor military personnel who didn't want to take the vaccine were fired.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Unbelievable. Did they ever get back pay, by the way?

>> Fred Jackson: In some cases, there have been court cases in the last year.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Whether he gets convicted or not, I keep dragging them out there, making them answer questions again.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, we'll do it.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Let's do it.

>> Tim Wildmon: We'll be back momentarily. Stay with us,

>> Ed Vitagliano: friend.

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>> Tim Wildmon: Hello, Tim Wildmon here, president of American Family association and American Family Radio. Hey, maybe you've heard some of my other announcements about our tours. In March 2027, we are going to Greece and we're going to Italy. Two separate tours, but you can do both if you want to. The first tour is called the Footsteps of Paul, which will be going to, many of the places covered in the book of acts that happened in Greece. The other tour is Italy and one of the places we're going to be going is Venice and we're going to ride the gondola or the gondola that Paul took on his trip to Venice. You can read about that in the Bible too. I'm just kidding. But you can call it A gondola or gondola, I don't care. But if you want to go on one of our tours in 2027, go to tours.afa.net that's tours.afa.net

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Tim Ferriss: Dr. Anthony Fauci pleaded the Fifth Amendment 11 times

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to today's Issues on American Family Radio. Tim, Wesley, Fred, and Krish. before we get an update on national truth for, Youth Bible Week here on American Family Radio, which we have some exciting news to share. Tim does. Tim. Todd. just to wrap this up, because as you can tell, ladies and gentlemen, when we start talking about Dr. Anthony Fauci and what we went through with Cove and his response at the Senate hearing where he pleaded the Fifth Amendment 11 times, even though he's a government employee using a government computer and a government phone and making decisions for the world in the name of the federal government, he says, I can't answer for it, which I would say that's unacceptable. You're going to sit in that chair. You're not even going to the bathroom until you answer this question. And if you want to say, I don't know, I don't remember. I don't recall, go ahead and say that. Although we don't believe you, but go ahead and say that. But don't plead the Fifth amendment to say, I refuse to answer questions on a legal basis, because what kind of transparency in government is that when you're going to go that direction? All right, just to wrap this up, hopefully I don't get rewound.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm not saying a word.

>> Donald Trump: Okay?

>> Tim Wildmon: Just stay out of my way.

>> Chris Woodward: The advisor council.

Dr. Nancy Fauci had connections with the Wuhan viral

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, there are two things that might have motivated Dr. Anthony Fauci to be less than forthcoming and to have questionable, edicts and actions during Cove I'm not. I can't prove this. I'm just speculating. As I said, follow the money.

>> Steve Deace: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Number one, Dr. Nancy Fauci had connections with the Wuhan viral. I don't know what the proper name was. It was. It's the Chinese lab where Covid came from. Okay. Yeah, he had connections with him.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes. Right, Fred, Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: he'd given them. He had authorized money being sent there.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes. For gain of function investigation.

>> Tim Wildmon: What does that mean?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Briefly?

>> Fred Jackson: Gain of function is basically a virus that getting it enhanced.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, okay, okay.

>> Fred Jackson: That's a simple definition.

>> Tim Wildmon: So the virus, the Cove virus escaped from a lab in COVID19 virus escaped from a lab in China. and Anthony Fauci was connected to it in some way and he didn't want any connection to it because it made him look bad. Again, I'm speculating, but why would somebody act the way he does if these things were not accurate, in my opinion. Then he started blaming the bats who happened to just live right down the road from the Wuhan lab. He said these can't. This came from bats. This is a natural virus, not a created lab virus. Remember that?

>> Fred Jackson: Yep.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So that, that's one reason why he may of obfuscated or you know, not wanted to be forthcoming. The second thing is, this is post. This is post March member. We all went through March, then shut everything shut down in April, in May and. Okay, go beyond that real quick. We get the vaccine that was. I didn't have problem. Who had a problem with trying to come up with a vaccine?

>> Wesley Wildmon: I didn't really.

>> Tim Wildmon: Nobody has a problem with trying to come up with a vaccine. We were all hoping that it could, but then it became clear that the government waived any, waived for the companies making the vaccine. They were rushed to market, they weren't properly tested and Anthony Fauci was pushing the vaccines like crazy. Only we only learn that it wasn't a vaccine because everybody take this vaccine. That's not a vaccine. Because it didn't stop you from getting it and it didn't stop you from spreading it.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: So.

>> Fred Jackson: And you needed boosters.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. And you needed boosters. And you're. And you don't even know what the long term effects of this are.

>> Fred Jackson: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: You can't. You don't know the long term effects of this if you haven't lived through the long term.

>> Fred Jackson: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: And, and so there's. Think Anthony Fauci, you meander we were. Wow, she villainized. Well, he brought it on himself. When you push the vaccine, and use the force of firing people and costing their livelihoods, telling the military, you don't take this thing, get out of here. That's what people were angry about.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's it.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Not. Hey, we recommend this. We think it's good. We don't think that there's any long term effects, take it if you want to. It might help you. Who would have a problem with that? Nobody would have a problem with that. But when you force it on people and he was the number one guy then, then that's. And there's a lot of money tied up in that in the vaccine business, you know, then if you remember. And I don't blame Johnson and Johnson, who are the big ones, Johnson and Johnson and Pfizer. Pfizer. And I don't blame those companies for getting a waiver from the federal government where they can't be held accountable legally for any negative effects of the vaccine. but if you're going to say that's okay to let them off the hook, you have to say why, why would you give them a free pass on any legal action being brought against those companies? Precisely because you don't know. And they don't know.

>> Fred Jackson: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Exactly. What the long term effects or even the short terms. In the case of people who, the young men who are having myocarditis.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: In fact the vaccines were banned and this didn't get much news during Cove The vaccines are being pushed. The vaccines were banned in Europe by four or five or six companies, for young men because it was causing them. There was a connection they feared between that and the myocarditis. So I'm just saying the vaccines may have been fine for a lot of people and if you wanted to take them that's fine. They were recommended by almost everybody in the medical community, remember that.

People who were questioning the vaccine were right, Anthony Fauci says

But it was the forcing of it on people and shaming people that people now are being they're being like okay, they were right. People who were questioning the vaccine and hat being forced on you were right. So that there was a. So anyway there was a lot of money tied up in that COVID vaccine response. And for Anthony Fauci, if you were to come out and said what I said, take it if you want to, but we can't guarantee you won't get it. Remember that then he would have been crucified by the people who made the vaccines and his other colleagues. So there you go. We're going to move on from that topic.

Tim Todd is the president of Revival Fires Ministry

Joining us now is Tim Todd from West Monroe, Louisiana who is the president of Revival Fires Ministry. Tim travels the country and holds evangelistic meetings and has his whole for 25 plus years. And he, his ministry and our ministry work on getting as many Bibles in the hands of teenagers Across America this week as we possibly can. Brother Tim, good morning to you.

>> Steve Deace: Good morning, Tim. I'm not going to plead the fifth. I'm going to proclaim some great numbers for you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. I was hoping if you plead the Fifth Amendment, I just give up. I'm going home.

American Family Radio is launching truth for youth Bible Campaign Week this week

All right, okay, so tell us our truth for youth Bible Campaign Week. We've been doing this for 25 plus years and our goal this year is 65,000 Bibles. Where are we?

>> Steve Deace: Yes, right now we have given or we are in the process of processing 33,800 and we have 31,200 to go to reach our goal. And so we're excited about that.

>> Tim Wildmon: So we're halfway there. We're halfway there.

>> Steve Deace: Yes, we are. That was as of last night.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Steve Deace: And so we've got today and tomorrow, and if we need to go into overtime over the weekend, which we plan to do, then, then we will do so. But just a tremendous partnership, tremendous response. I believe we're going to have a record breaking year this year of young people that are going to receive a truth for you Bible as a result of listening their parents and grandparents listening to American Family Radio.

>> Tim Wildmon: Amen. Well, tell folks again, maybe who don't know who's eligible, how they can, get, copies of the Bible and also talk about the boxes because our cases. You have boxes, cases of these truth for youth Bibles that say, a youth pastor or church might want to order. Go ahead.

>> Steve Deace: Yes, Tim. In fact, of course, for those that don't know, it is a very unique NewSong Testament, the entire NewSong Testament with the God's Word translation, with a hundred pages of comic stories in the front that deal with the truth about issues of moral concern that young people are up against every day. And one Bible per teenager per household, ages 13 to 18 years old, that will commit to give the Bible away to somebody in school that doesn't know Jesus. A, parent or grandparent can call in on behalf of their children and grandchildren and will give one Bible per teenager per household to every one of them for absolutely free of charge. And if people want to get, copies in addition to this, they can get them at my cost, which is $2 each, if they get a case of 50 or more of the Bibles. And we encourage Bible clubs and youth groups and churches to do so to help us get God's word into the hands of young people.

>> Tim Wildmon: $2 a Bible a copy.

>> Steve Deace: It's amazing.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Steve Deace: $2.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's very inexpensive in today's world.

>> Tim Wildmon: And so if you want to order, you said they come in cases of

>> Steve Deace: what, 50 Bibles per case?

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so if you want to order one case, Thom, $100 plus shipping.

>> Steve Deace: That's it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Gotcha.

>> Steve Deace: That's it.

>> Tim Wildmon: And you can process that request?

>> Steve Deace: Yes, we can.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Steve Deace: Yes, we can. We. And we got, you know, people manding the phones and, we want to get those phone lines burning.

>> Tim Wildmon: What's a phone number? What's a phone number? Burn them up, brother. Burn them up.

>> Steve Deace: Yes, sir. 8007-3347-3780-0733-4737. Or Tim, they can go to T F. y.org Truth for Youth T F y.org One thing I do need

>> Tim Wildmon: to know, Tim, and I think our listeners need to know from you, the people answering the phone there at your offices, they are six feet apart, right?

>> Steve Deace: Yes, they are. Absolutely are. And in fact, in fact, we've got them, where that, they can't hear each other.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Steve Deace: And, and so that, everything is very, very confidential. The information that, is processed. And of course, we're thankful for a wonderful team that we have that, that are volunteering to help us answer the phone.

>> Donald Trump: All right.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, brother. You take care. you know, you're, You didn't get my six feet stop the spread virus joke, did you? Even now you get it. Okay, okay.

>> Steve Deace: A little bit slow.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you are. You know, we in Mississippi, we understand people in Louisiana can be a little slow. no, we don't look down on our southern brethren. We don't. We're not uppity like Arkansas people. You know what I'm saying?

>> Donald Trump: Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: All right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Talk to you later, Tim.

>> Steve Deace: Okay, my friend. Appreciate you very much.

>> Fred Jackson: Bye Bye.

>> Tim Wildmon: I didn't know whether to.

>> Wesley Wildmon: You did the right thing.

>> Tim Wildmon: Did I do the right thing? I felt like if Tim. If Tim leaves a phone conversation and I don't, I don't tell him, he didn't get my. And then somebody walked on in the hall and said, you didn't even know what he was talking about, did you?

>> Fred Jackson: Did you?

>> Tim Wildmon: Then that would have been, you know what I'm saying?

>> Wesley Wildmon: You did the right thing.

Department of Health and Human Services cutting ties with organ procurement organization

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Tim Wesley, Fred and Krish. Krish. Bring forth unto us another story.

>> Chris Woodward: All right? If you are an organ donor or

>> Tim Wildmon: your loved one, an Oregon donor.

>> Chris Woodward: Oregon.

>> Tim Wildmon: We're going to give Oregon away.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, I'M sorry, I'm sorry.

>> Chris Woodward: For cash and, state to be named.

>> Tim Wildmon: But anyway, state to be named later.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Canada. We're going to trade Oregon for a province.

>> Fred Jackson: That's right, 51st State.

>> Chris Woodward: Okay, so in. If you're an organ donor or your loved one is an organ donor, you want to listen to this story? I have this airing already. It's aired a couple of times on radio and we have something on AFN net. Yesterday, the Department of Health and Human Services announced the federal government was cutting ties with an organization known as Network for Hope, the federally designated organ procurement organization serving Kentucky and parts of Indiana, Ohio and West Virginia. The reason being? According to HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Network for Hope was involved in organ procurements from people that were still alive or conscious during surgeries or removal procedures where they thought somebody was dead.

>> Tim Wildmon: That can be very painful.

>> Chris Woodward: It can. And during his announcement yesterday, Secretary Kennedy went through one example of somebody that was alive and awake and conscious during an organ removal procedure.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Clip 5 One of those cases involved TJ Hoover. DJ showed signs of awareness while on the operating table about to have his organs removed. Physicians refused to proceed with the organ recovery because they believe that he was still alive.

>> Chris Woodward: Now, what's more troubling about this is they Fox had this live press conference and Fred and I are watching it, and they, they then cut away from the press conference to bring in reaction.

>> Tim Wildmon: Cut away.

>> Tim Wildmon: Can you come up with a different transition?

>> Chris Woodward: They transitioned to a reaction, segment, featuring Dr. Mark Siegel, a Fox News medical contributor. And Martha McCallum was the host of the program airing all this. And she says, you know, how big of a problem is this? And Mark Siegel says this type of thing is a, quote, widespread problem.

>> Tim Wildmon: Clip 6 It is a widespread problem because there's not a consensus on what death is they're using. This organization is using something called circulatory death, where your heart goes stops if you withdraw the care and your lungs aren't working, but your brain may still be working. And in TJ Hoover's case, which he' sthe secretary is talking about in 2021, he actually woke up and he washe had his knees up to his chest, reportedly. And he said no, no, and it took him a while to withdraw care. I want to emphasize something. You could be on propofol or a sedative and look like you're dead and not be. That's a really important part of this and that's part of what led to all of these citations. I would applaud this. This motion today. It's very important.

>> Tim Wildmon: What's the name. What's the name of this company that's

>> Chris Woodward: been network for Hope, and it serves Kentucky and parts of Indiana, Ohio and West Virginia, where we have many listeners

>> Fred Jackson: and we should mention they are challenging what RFK had to say yesterday.

>> Tim Wildmon: The company is.

>> Fred Jackson: The company is.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so they're saying we're not guilty of what he's accusing us of. Correct. Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: All right.

>> Tim Wildmon: The company aside, here I am. I went to get my driver's license renewed a couple months ago, and they asked me, did I want to be an organ donor? And I said to them, quote, yes, as long as I'm dead, end of quote. And I'm in it because there's nothing worse. I can think of as waking up on a operating table and they thinking you're gone and somebody wants your liver.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. Well, and in this case, that was rfk, mentioned yesterday.

>> Tim Wildmon: That hurts. It does hurt. Go ahead, go ahead.

>> Fred Jackson: What RFK mentioned yesterday, thank God for the medical team, because you can imagine in these situations, these medical teams.

>> Tim Wildmon: You mean for this fellow who survived.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes. They're the ones that said, wait a minute, we can't do this. thank God for them, because these medical teams are under a lot of pressure to do this quickly, to transfer to the person who needs the kidney, the liver, whatever the case may be. So thank God for them that they said, we got to stop this right now.

Dr. Mark Siegel says organ donation is more widespread than you think

What got me yesterday, and Krish has just alluded to this, was Dr. Mark Siegel saying this is more widespread than what you think.

>> Tim Wildmon: That was shocking.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: To hear him. Because I like him. Dr. Mark Siegel, he's a very credible source.

>> Fred Jackson: Solid.

>> Wesley Wildmon: You said this, in the news, article. This happens. This is hard to believe. And I read it twice between 20 and 30.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's not funny. It's not funny because you're almost going to laugh. You're going to make me laugh. And it sounds. Sounds funny, but that ain't funny.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Chris Woodward: Okay.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Between 20 and 30% of the time at this particular, organization.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're not going to tell me what I think you're going to tell me who said this. 20, 30 of the time. What, the government? The people are alive.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes. Yeah. With this organization.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. According to this.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Real quick. I'm emphasizing. I'm emphasizing. This is not like. Can you believe this happened? Oh, it's only happened one every 10 years. It's not very often.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, I know, I know. That's shocking. so go ahead.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. So And I shared this on our, Today's Issues Facebook page. According to the Department of Health and Human Services, 103 cases, or 30% showed concerning features, including 73 patients with neurological signs incompatible with organ donation.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Chris Woodward: In other words, they weren't dead yet.

>> Tim Wildmon: I guess they're going to say they're brain dead. The whoever would be their brain dead, therefore, they're gone, even though their body still may be pumping blood or something like. I don't know. Ah. Just so, we don't get a call from lawyers from some company or whatever, we're not saying guilt or innocence. We're only reporting a news story. That came from where? Fox News?

>> Chris Woodward: yeah, well, they carry the press conference.

>> Fred Jackson: It was rfk is rfk.

>> Tim Wildmon: So in he cited this particular company by name.

>> Fred Jackson: Oh, yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Car. They're bringing charges against him.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. The news conference was in Lexington, Kentucky.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. I'm sorry. Well, there you go. So, but anyway, listen, I'm in favor. I know everybody has their opinion on organ donation, but I'm in favor of it because, you're gone anyway. And why don't you let your organs be used to help another family who's in desperate need of a kidney or a liver or eyes or whatever the case may, whatever they can.

Are you an organ donor? I have a friend waiting for a kidney transplant

This terrible term, harvest from, from you that would help make the quality of life or in some cases, save the life of another person, who desperately needs it. I know. I know people right now who need. They're waiting on a kidney transplant, and they don't get it in the next couple years, you know, they're probably not going to make it.

>> Fred Jackson: I have a friend who's on his second transplant right now.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. For kidney.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Yeah. So I'm a. You know, I believe in organ donation,

>> Wesley Wildmon: but you obviously want to make sure that the person.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but I want to be. I don't mean to sell morbid. I do want the death certificate to be give. I do want to be dead. What I'm saying, for sure. Sure, for sure. And absolutely. I don't mean gonna talk morbid stuff, but I'm just saying that. Yeah, that don't need to be cutting on people.

>> Chris Woodward: I don't have a problem at all with donating.

>> Tim Wildmon: Are you an organ donor? Is that a perfect.

>> Chris Woodward: Have been for. For pretty much as long as I've had a driver's license. When I die, when I officially die, I'm gonna be with the Lord, So I don't need my heart, my eyes, my kidneys, whatever But I do like you want to be fully dead.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. before you came from me. Now, some, some religious groups have objections, to.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, sure.

>> Tim Wildmon: Organ donations. I was reading Muslims do. I didn't, I didn't know this, but I was reading yesterday. Maybe that's not true for all Muslims. I don't know. But they don't believe in tampering with the body, even post death. so I think Ed says, evidently on our colleague says, quote, nobody wants my organs, end quote. I think that's what, So we'll see. I'll ask him more. I don't know about asking personal questions on national radio, but, Edward, mind Ed wouldn't care.

Affordability is the issue going into the midterm elections, Chris says

All right, Krish, we got about two minutes left here.

>> Chris Woodward: All right. So amid all the talk from Democratic socialists and just Democrats that, President Trump is doing a terrible job on the economy and affordability is the issue going into the midterm elections. President Trump says his economy and his. Well, his economic plan is working and helping people in this economy. Here he is in Nevada yesterday.

>> Donald Trump: Clip 7 Here in Nevada, we've created over 40,000 new jobs and lifted nearly 100,000 Nevadans off of food stamps. Last month, inflation dropped at the fastest rate. It's dropped in many years. And more Americans are working. So the biggest thing for this whole thing, more Americans are working in the United States right now than at any point in the history of our country.

>> Chris Woodward: The one thing that hurts him with these statements which are true, is the price of gas. I mean, people, people, people are having to work to pay for gas. I mean, pretty much, that's the issue right now. And Democrats are hammering.

>> Tim Wildmon: What was he in Nevada for? Was there a campaign out there or something?

>> Fred Jackson: He did Los Angeles earlier this week, and he was in Nevad night, and not surprisingly, he was in Nevada. He really stressed what a wonderful thing he did when he didn't make tips. Taxable.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: Trump accounts.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. I know that, you know, he's going to be president. Trump is going to be making appearances around the country in support of candidates that he's supporting.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: So I didn't know if that was the case there in Nevada or not. Maybe may have been.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. You're listening to today's issues. We're going to take a short time out right here. Tim, Wesley, Fred and Krish would say so long to. Krish, you going back to your office?

>> Chris Woodward: Buenos tardis.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Chris Woodward: For our east coast listeners, because it's afternoon where they are.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, thank you, Krish. See Steve Paisley. Jordan will be with us momentarily. We'll be back. The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.

Tim, Wesley and Fred talk with Chris on top news headlines of the day including a discussion on Dr. Fauci being held in contempt of Congress. Also, Tim Todd joins the program to give an update on Truth For Youth. 

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(00:00) The American Family Association's mission is to strengthen moral foundations of our culture

(02:25) American Family Radio is multicultural right here. And we don't care what color you are

(06:02) Senate committee votes to hold Dr. Anthony Fauci in contempt of Congress

(08:55) Tim: Dr. Anthony Fauci set policy after Covid

(13:19) Anthony Fauci became the trusted voice at that time

(14:28) Tim: There was initial panic that the shot was the solution

(18:03) Rand Paul asks Anthony Fauci to appear before Homeland Security committee

(23:07) Anthony Fauci and the medical establishment that I have doubts about

(24:57) 80% of abortion vulnerable women choose life after seeing baby on ultrasound

(26:20) Tim Wildman announces two separate tours scheduled for March 2027

(27:56) Tim: Dr. Anthony Fauci pleaded the Fifth Amendment 111 times

(29:19) Dr. Fauci had connections with the Wuhan viral

(34:23) People who were questioning the vaccine were right, Anthony Fauci says

(35:08) Tim Todd is the president of Revival Fires Ministry

(35:48) American Family Radio is launching truth for youth Bible Campaign Week this week

(40:48) Department of Health and Human Services cutting ties with organ procurement organization

(45:28) Dr. Mark Siegel says organ donation is more widespread than you think

(47:48) Are you an organ donor? I have a friend waiting for a kidney transplant

(49:50) Affordability is the issue going into the midterm elections, Chris says