Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildman
>> Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on American Family Radio on this Thursday, August 6, 2026. Again, thank you for listening to AFR. Tim, Wesley and Fred. We are in studio. And, Steve Paisley. George. Steve Paisley. George joins us in studio as well.
Jerry Jenkins and Mark Yarborough have written a biblical novel. The novel will be released in November
Good morning.
>> Steve Jordahl: Hey, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: so you got a book in front of you there. Were you reading?
>> Steve Jordahl: I haven't started it yet, but I wanted to talk about it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go.
>> Steve Jordahl: I will be doing a story on this. Jerry Jenkins, the man who teamed up with Tim LaHaye to write the Left behind series, I remember it well, is now teaming up with Mark Yarborough, who is the pre. He is, with one of the seminaries.
>> Fred Jackson: President of Dallas Theater Genealogical Seminary.
>> Steve Jordahl: DTS President of Dallas Seminary. And they have written a new novel. This is a novel like the Left behind series, which is biblically based fiction about the battle in heaven when Satan rebelled against God and fell to earth.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Interesting. Would they have a movie on it? I'm not being funny.
>> Steve Jordahl: I mean, no.
>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, they wrote.
>> Steve Jordahl: They were just writing a book.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's going to be released in November.
>> Tim Wildmon: The novel.
>> Steve Jordahl: The novel will be released in November. It's called the Battle for Heaven and Earth. And you can hear about it.
>> Tim Wildmon: We got a lot. It's not a. It's a fiction, not a nonfiction.
>> Steve Jordahl: It is a fiction book, like, based
>> Tim Wildmon: on a biblical story.
>> Steve Jordahl: Exactly. Like Left Behind.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I would imagine they would use as much, as much biblical evidence as they have, even though it's very little.
>> Steve Jordahl: Just like Left Behind. Yes. They base it off of what the Bible says about, Satan rebelling and being cast out of heaven and falling.
>> Tim Wildmon: What do they say? Or you don't know yet because you haven't read it.
>> Steve Jordahl: I'm going to open it up.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is an advanced reading copy.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's right. It hasn't been published yet. You're the only person to hold that book in your hand.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ah.
>> Fred Jackson: Ah.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's risky. I would, of course, first of all, I can't write fiction. I've tried, but I have enough crazy stuff in reality that I don't need to make up stuff. But this isn't crazy. I'm not saying that, but. But what I'm saying is here's what's to try to take a biblical story and wrap it around fiction. Now, I know they did a great job, but Left Behind. But this is not Left Behind. This is not futuristic. This is going Back in time, before there was time. But, yeah, talk about Satan's, how Satan became how Satan rebelled against
>> Steve Jordahl: God and fell to earth.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes, that was. Well, your reaction was my reaction in my mind, of course.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, we're Ken. So that happens from time to time.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I share the same reaction.
>> Tim Wildmon: So will you tell us what they say? That's a very interesting.
>> Steve Jordahl: I'm gonna talk to Jerry Jenkins. I'm sorry. I'm gonna talk to Mark Yarborough on Monday and I can report back. But I'm gonna be writing a story for this. Well, the story's probably gonna be released. I'll, do something rather soon, but we'll aim for more the, November time when it's gonna be released. But yeah, so I just. I'm excited about it. I look forward to reading it.
>> Tim Wildmon: I got a bunch of questions about that, but there's no point in asking it if you haven't even read the book yet.
>> Steve Jordahl: You can. We'll talk about it on Monday if you want.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. All right, go.
Ronald Extantis stabbed Logan Tipton to death in Kentucky home
>> Steve Jordahl: All right. I got a serious, story out of Kentucky that's, I think you brought this to us, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: I saw it on the news yesterday.
>> Steve Jordahl: There's a gentleman, a guy named, Ronald Extantis, who was, released from Kentucky's Department of corrections on July 29. He had been, He had broken into a house and fatally stabbed a six year old named Logan Tipton. He attacked Logan's father and his two sisters, stabbed them, but they all survived. Logan was put to trial and the verdict came back not guilty by reason of insanity on the murder charges. He was found guilty but mentally ill on assault charges involving the surviving family members, the dad and the two sisters. It turns out that he has. Now this was,
>> Tim Wildmon: He committed the crimes in the year 2015, I believe.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or at least was sentenced then 20.
>> Steve Jordahl: 2015.
>> Tim Wildmon: So I want people to hear what you just said. This is a man who broke into some family's home burglary. Do what?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, Burger.
>> Tim Wildmon: He broke into, burglarized and then assaulted this family. They have three members.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yep.
>> Tim Wildmon: The two adults, I think a teenager and an adult, they were attacked.
>> Steve Jordahl: One of the father and two sisters were stabbed. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: A six year old is in his bed.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. Asleep.
>> Tim Wildmon: Asleep. And was stabbed to death by this man.
>> Steve Jordahl: Correct.
>> Tim Wildmon: So he was caught, charged, sentenced in 2015 or 16 in the state of Kentucky.
>> Steve Jordahl: He. Well, he committed the crime in 15.
>> Tim Wildmon: committed and was sentenced in 16. And what happened?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, it's. It's a 10 year sentence and they have had to release him without any kind of parole. He has served his sentence, his time because of the mental illness conviction, because he couldn't be convicted on the murder. He has served his time and he
>> Tim Wildmon: is out free on, that's, that's stunning.
>> Steve Jordahl: Free. Just walk around free.
>> Tim Wildmon: I wouldn't expect, I wouldn't even expect that in a blue state, much less a red, state like Kentucky.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, they did, they did see the problem with it. And the father of this guy's name is Dean Tipton. He has been, he worked with Kentucky's legislature to pass Logan's Law.
>> Tim Wildmon: excuse me, maybe you're about to answer this. How did this guy get out? How did this guy get out of prison in 10 years, stabbing a six year old to death in his bed and a burglary in their home?
>> Steve Jordahl: The law stipulated that if you are found not guilty because of insanity, that you're not guilty. So that was off the table. And the charges of guilty but mentally ill on assault charges carried a 10 year sentence. He served the 10 years and he's out.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Those seem contradicting though, like either you're insane, you're insane for all of it, or you're.
>> Steve Jordahl: He was insane for all of it and he was charged.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't care if you're insane or not.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I agree with you.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't care. I don't care who isn't insane that does something like that.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Huh? yeah. You, you, you take the life of a six year old boy who's sleeping in his bed at home by stabbing him to death and you get, you're in jail for six years only prison or whatever it is because you said I was crazy while I did this in Kentucky.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Even I have not been able to get this story out of my head since I read it just because of, where in the justice system did that, did the state of Kentucky go wrong that that's even an option?
>> Tim Wildmon: I'll tell you where this is a layman. I'm not having to explore this, but I tell you, probably where they go wrong is putting the idea is letting people off on a lesser sentence because they, because they claim they're insane.
>> Fred Jackson: Yep.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't care whether you're insane or not. You commit a crime, you're going to pay the penalty. The, insanity plea is abused.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Absolutely. And it shouldn't even be a thing. It shouldn't be a thing any more than a hate crime. No, a crime's a crime.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's Right. Well, if you're that insane, then why
>> Wesley Wildmon: weren't you locked up and stay locked up.
>> Tim Wildmon: Stay locked up.
>> Steve Jordahl: Anyway, so they did, it did the. The father did work with the,
>> Tim Wildmon: The father of the young boy who was killed, who himself was stabbed.
>> Steve Jordahl: Logan's dad. His name is Dean. He worked with the Kentucky legislature and they did pass what is now known as Logan's Law. Logan's Law. They, have.
>> Tim Wildmon: You mean in the state of Kentucky?
>> Steve Jordahl: In the state of Kentucky now has Logan's Law. And it, it changes the insanity defense. It repeals Kentucky's traditional not guilty by reason of insanity. And instead defendants with severe mental illness now may be found guilty but mentally ill. And the charges of those are tougher. So, the violent offenders, you can still be served. You could still be charged with a life sentence and, you will still.
>> Tim Wildmon: Did you say L I G H T or L I F E?
>> Steve Jordahl: L I F E. A life sentence. You have to serve at least 30 years of that before becoming eligible for parole.
Carlos Hernandez was found not guilty by reason of insanity in stabbing case
>> Wesley Wildmon: One thing I didn't understand in that, in this, when reading this story is why he got 0 years for murdering the 6 year old and why he got 10 years for stabbing the adults.
>> Steve Jordahl: Because when you're found not guilty by reason of insanity, you're not guilty.
>> Wesley Wildmon: You see my question. Why was he not guilty for insanity?
>> Tim Wildmon: It's a aberration of, of justice, to say the least.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's not that he's. He did stab him and he was. What about Carlos? He's guilty of stabbing. We say he's guilty, but legally he is found not guilty.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, why. Okay, let me, let me, let me try to say this again. He got. So he saw. What I'm hearing is, is that if they, if he had not stabbed the adults, he would have got out on nothing. He wouldn't have even gone to jail.
>> Steve Jordahl: He got it, right. As soon as. Yes.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Do you see what I mean?
>> Tim Wildmon: Wait a minute, wait a minute.
>> Wesley Wildmon: He's reading it right, but I don't understand it. Could I read a minute?
>> Tim Wildmon: Wait a minute. That can't be right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: No, no story.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think he might have had to
>> Steve Jordahl: be go to his hospital, but I
>> Tim Wildmon: think his sentence was reduced because he claimed he was insane. Not his sentence. Not. He got. Not that, he got off the hook completely for killing the six year old. I think that's the case. But anyway, where can people, can we put this story up on our Facebook page so people can read it for themselves? this was where we. It's A Fox News story. so we'll put it up on our Today's Issues Facebook page and people can click on it. It's an. It's. It'll make you angry, I'll tell you that. But it's unbelievable how some. This kind of thing happens a lot in blue states.
>> Wesley Wildmon: It does. And that's why I support the Castle Doctrine.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: If you come, if you walk in, someone else, if you break in, or, if you find yourself in another person's house, you should. That you're not invited to. And the shots fired, that's how this goes. Because, it would have been nice for this guy to. The guy that stabbed the six year old have been nice for him to have been shot by the dad in the house. That would have been. That's the best ending of this story. But unfortunately, now he's walking free after 10 up to serving 10 years.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, next story.
John Solomon says FBI opened probe into whether Trump acted as Russian asset
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, so, I want to talk about, we're finding that Jon Solomon, the great independent, reporter, is reporting about a new probe that the FBI opened up. I'm going to read this. Jon Solomon's first, the line of his story, it says, the FBI opened a criminal probe specifically targeting Donald Trump in May of 2017, alleging that the newly elected president may have been acting as a Russian asset when he fired then director James Comey. Even though the bureau knew overwhelming evidence showed at the time that there was no collusion with the Kremlin. So this is the Russian collusion hoax. And one of the things that, they did was they tried to pin the firing of James Comey on Donald Trump and saying that he fired him because he was a Russian asset. Now, they named this, they named an investigation Operation Oxford Comma. I can tell you what an Oxford comma is, but it's a grammar thing. And it was something that James Comey used. He was in love with the Oxford comma. You could look it up. So, but here's what they did because they wanted to, Because they wanted to make sure that you couldn't, investigate this via a foia, search. They misspelled Oxford and comma. They misspelled it. So the. It was Operation Oxford O, X, F, E, R, D comma, C. And the letter, the number 0mma.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Sounds intentional.
>> Steve Jordahl: It was very intentional. They wanted to. So that if. If it was ever found out. Now, you cannot. You couldn't do a foyer. Freedom of Information act request on Operation Oxford, Columbia. We come back. Oh, nothing there. No, there's no Such thing. So, but because Donald Trump won the, Won the election, he is now opening up all of the books and we're finding all of the. Miss. the weaponization of the FBI and the government under Joe Biden during the time.
>> Tim Wildmon: Joe Biden is now the, He's the president of the TDS Club.
>> Steve Jordahl: I think. I think he would very rightfully be. Yes.
>> Wesley Wildmon: He's graduated, been promoted.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, he was vice president, but I think he last. Their last convention, he was voted president of the, Trump Derangement Syndrome.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. Club.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So wish him well.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
Abdul El Sayed is running for Senate seat in Michigan
>> Tim Wildmon: Next story.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, they, we talked about yesterday how on Tuesday, Abdul El Sayed won the Democrat nomination for governor of Michigan.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, Senate.
>> Steve Jordahl: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. The Senate seat in Michigan. I am, I totally am. So he is now the Democrats. he will be on the ballot for the Democrat Party for the Senate seat in Michigan. He will be, facing, Mike Rogers, who is a congressman. Or was he senator?
>> Tim Wildmon: Congressman.
>> Steve Jordahl: He was Congressman from Michigan, but now he is running for governor.
>> Fred Jackson: Senate.
>> Steve Jordahl: Senate. Mike,
>> Wesley Wildmon: there is a far lefty running for governor in Wisconsin that we covered.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's probably what I'm.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's a woman.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, who's of Korean descent. Not even close to what Steve's talking
>> Wesley Wildmon: about, but we played both.
>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, I know this is live radio. Steve, we're going to give you a second chance.
Abdul El Sayed challenged Mike Rogers to five debates
You start over with that story.
>> Steve Jordahl: Abdul El Sayed on Tuesday night won, his primary to represent Democrats on the November ballot for Michigan's Senate seat, which is open. He will be running against Mike Rogers, a former congressman who is also running for the Senate seat. He will be the Republican candidate. In his victory speech on Tuesday night, Abdul, Al Said, challenged Mike Rogers to five debates. He says there's enough crimes in Mike Rogers. Rogers passed. This is what El Sayed says, that they can't uncover them in one, so they want five. And one of the things that he wants to talk about is Mike Rogers vacation home in Florida. You know, these Democrat socialists, they can't stand rich people. If you have a vacation home in Florida, you must be rich. So he's going to try to pin the rich guy on Mike Rogers. Well, they did a little bit of investigating. What did they find, Fred?
>> Fred Jackson: They found that, El Sayad has some private homes of his own, except they're in the Middle East. I think he has one in Dubai and he has, apparently, according to the story, a few others.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, this is Rich. So you tell them in this. Abdul. What's up? What's the fella's name?
>> Fred Jackson: Abdul?
>> Steve Jordahl: El Sayed.
>> Tim Wildmon: Did he personally go after Mike Rogers on having a second home in Florida?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes. This is a story.
>> Fred Jackson: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Not his campaign manager. Oh, no, this is so. Oh. And it turns out that, if I were Mike Rogers, I'd come back. Yeah. I have a second home in America. Where is your second home, Abdul? well, I have a second, third, fourth home over in the Middle east somewhere.
>> Fred Jackson: I think because of Abdul, ah. El Sayed's background, the researchers in the Republican Party, they have been very busy.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: And we're going to find out a whole lot more. In fact, FOX yesterday afternoon had another story.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: wait, before you do that.
>> Fred Jackson: Sure.
>> Tim Wildmon: By the way, when did it become a bad thing to have a second home? Does that make you a bad person? I don't have a second home. But I'm saying, if Mike Rogers has created enough success and wealth in his life over his decades of work and he wants to buy a second home in Florida, why is that a sin? Well, it is a sin on the part of the left because they hate people who are.
>> Fred Jackson: Here's the other thing I would do if I was Mike, Rogers. Yeah, here's the other thing I would do. I'm going to go to the list of all the Democrats that have a second home. Arizona, Florida. Yeah. all those people.
>> Tim Wildmon: Are they bad people, too?
>> Fred Jackson: Are they bad people?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: should they be thrown up second
>> Wesley Wildmon: homes in red states, by the way?
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. But the second story that, FOX came up with yesterday is where El Sayad has been getting some of his money. Well, apparently some of his donors, are also connected to care, the Council of American Islamic Relations. And according to Fox, some of them have connections to the Muslim Brotherhood. According to Fox.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: So I, I think over the next couple of months, you are going to see a big bunch of stories about, El Sayad's connections to various groups,
>> Wesley Wildmon: and we will be covering them right here.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Steve Jordahl: So what they found, What FOX found was that individuals affiliated with CARE employees, board members and former leaders contributed to El Sayed's campaign. According to Fox News Digital, they donated more than $115,000. These are 41 official, individuals with current or former care affiliations.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Steve Jordahl: So these are CAIR, again, is an unindicted CO conspiracy. I don't know if you call them that, but they are, have been linked with the Muslim Brotherhood, a terror organization, and they're Funding, EL Said's campaign.
>> Fred Jackson: Helping to fund.
>> Steve Jordahl: Helping to fund. Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Next story.
Some Gen Zers are saying they want to get away from smartphones
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, so, some Gen Zers. What are you. You're not Gen Z. What are you?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Honestly, I don't know.
>> Steve Jordahl: You don't know what you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Okay. Gen Z, I think. Do you know what it is, Brent? Brent? Do you know what it is, Fred?
>> Fred Jackson: Gen Z, A little, younger than, the,
>> Tim Wildmon: Is it between a millennial and a boomer?
>> Steve Jordahl: Gen Z were born between 97 and 2012. They would be between 14 and 29 years old.
>> Tim Wildmon: So these are younger than right behind you, Wesley.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.
>> Steve Jordahl: Anyway, some of them are not happy with the, addiction they have to their smartphones. So there is a trend among some of them to swap out their smartphones for what they're calling dumb phones or flip phones that don't have Internet access or cameras.
>> Tim Wildmon: I thought about that myself.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I thought about it myself, too. That's the one my kid's gonna get.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I know. I've thought about Fred.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, I'm trying to picture this. I've heard this story. So it's kind of like a baby in a pacifier. There's really not any milk connected to it. But it's a pretenziphone.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, it's. Yeah. of course, this isn't a massive movement. Okay.
>> Fred Jackson: No.
>> Tim Wildmon: Among this age group, they just. It's a story. They're saying that some of them. Some, of them are saying this, is. That they want to get away from technology. So much technology.
>> Fred Jackson: But you're carrying a plastic, ah, device in your hand.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I don't know. I think it's basically going back to the flip phone. Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: For emergencies.
>> Fred Jackson: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Like a phone that you use for text and calling. And that's it.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Just don't get the one with the game Snake on there. All you're doing is defeating the whole purpose.
>> Tim Wildmon: What. What happened there?
>> Wesley Wildmon: The original. The original. Oh, yes, I do.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Wesley Wildmon: The original phone, the Nokia phone that had. They had about three games on there. and the three games on there
>> Tim Wildmon: is this popular with parents, but for their young person.
>> Wesley Wildmon: This is my generation's first phone.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, I got you. Okay.
>> Wesley Wildmon: My generation's first phone before the iPhone is this.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're in your mid-30s. Go ahead.
>> Wesley Wildmon: 30s. It's the phone that, if they were going back to the phones before smartphones.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So we go back without Internet, dumb phones. They had three games on there. One of the three games was Snake.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And that Snake game was addicting. As Candy Crush. Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So, yeah, I see people playing the Candy Crush.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So if you're gonna.
>> Tim Wildmon: During our show.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So if you're going to go backwards on an old. On a dumb phone, you gotta get.
>> Tim Wildmon: You gotta go all down because you defeat the purpose.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That was supposed to be a joke, but you didn't know what snake went.
>> Tim Wildmon: So I've heard a snake. But Candy Crush I'm definitely familiar with. So, Fred, you're not, you're not going to go this. You're going to stick with your, absolute.
>> Fred Jackson: Absolutely.
>> Tim Wildmon: I do like the weather.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. The weather apps. And I mean, I like staying in
>> Tim Wildmon: touch and the news. Yeah, I have.
Steve: For the first hour, communicate with your kids and your wife
>> Wesley Wildmon: On a serious note, I've talked about this on Dr. Nurse Mom's program with Jessica Beck and do need to set a set of some parameters of yourself of your own individually. I go home and from 5 to 6. Well, I don't get home right at 5. It varies. But for the first hour, when I get home, may not seem like a lot, but I put my phone up.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, for the first hour, communicate with your kids and your wife.
>> Tim Wildmon: Don't even have the temptation.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. I go in my room, put it in the drawer for at least an hour.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's a good idea, Steve. Go ahead.
>> Steve Jordahl: I just want to preview some of the breaking news on our favorite factual, website, Babylon Bee. they are reporting. And this is, this is the justice. The Department of War, due it to a depleted missile supply, Operation Epic Fury has been downgraded. It is now Operation Aggressive Fury. And the wnba. One, of their coaches, held a press conference and was asked and they were stumped because they're not sure what the W stands for.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Let's go a fist bump. Fist bump on live radio right there for Steve. Well played.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right.
Truth for Youth. org helps young people understand the Bible
All right. Then we.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Truth for Youth.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, Truth for Youth.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Truth for Youth. call in at 1-800-733-4737 to help us get as many young. Get, as many young adults or teenagers. The Bible.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, what's the website for that people want to read about it?
>> Wesley Wildmon: It's t f y.org t f y.org which stands for Truth for Youth.
>> Tim Wildmon: My thanks to Wesley, Fred, Steve, Krish, Brent. Cole Greene, who does our video. Yes, we video this show and Cole is responsible for that on YouTube, Facebook and other places. We even do it on X as well. And our own stream.afa.net stream.afa.net we have live videos stream. We'll see you tomorrow. Trivia Friday tomorrow.
