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>> Ed Vitagliano: welcome to today's Issues, offering a Christian response to

>> Tim Wildmon: the issues of the day.

>>  : Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR on this Monday, June 15, 2026. I'm, Tim Wildmon, as the announcer just told you, and Ed Battagliano is in the studio with me. Good morning, brother Ed.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Good morning, Tim and Fred Jackson.

>> Tim Wildmon: Good morning, brother Fred.

>> Fred Jackson: Howdy. Howdy.

>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, folks, we got Frank Turek coming up at the bottom of the hour. So if you get tired of us. Frank is on the way.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Help is on the way.

>> Tim Wildmon: Help is on the way. Other than that, there's nobody else because Krish is out and Steve Paisley. Jordan's out, right?

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, yeah, we've got.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Wesley's out.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, Wesley's gone.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Ray. Ray Pritchard's out.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ray. Yeah, raised, out.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So we three.

>> Fred Jackson: What do they think it is? Summer.

>> Tim Wildmon: I know. Got people taking vacations and traveling here and there. You know, Ray's developed an attitude. so we got different issues that we're dealing with here.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, it's not easy in this show.

>> Tim Wildmon: so anyway, we look forward to talking to our friend Dr. Frank Turek, who we haven't talked to in a while.

Fred Kaplan: Donald Trump is attending the G7 with world leaders

Coming up at the bottom of the hour, so much news to talk. President, United States. Is, Is he already in France?

>> Fred Jackson: He's arrived.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, they're having the G7. Donald Trump is there. Is he wearing a black tie today? I've never seen him wear a black tie. If that. It is. Look at that. Okay, that's like a unicorn.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You don't, you don't ever know.

>> Tim Wildmon: He wears a red tie four out of five days, and then he'll throw, he'll throw a blue one in there. But I've never seen a black tie, worn by President Donald Trump. So anyway, what, his, clothing doesn't matter. It's what he's There to discuss with the. With world leaders. They call it the G7.

>> Fred Jackson: G7, yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, Fred, for an AFR trivia Friday t shirt, name me the seven nations that make up the G7.

>> Fred Jackson: Do I get points for being close?

>> Tim Wildmon: you know, sure, Fred, we gave you points for being close.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Just how close does he have to be?

>> Tim Wildmon: Give me six, Fred. All right, six of the seven. United States of one.

>> Fred Jackson: Canada.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Two.

>> Fred Jackson: Germany.

>> Tim Wildmon: Three.

>> Fred Jackson: France.

>> Tim Wildmon: Four.

>> Fred Jackson: Britain. Five. Japan.

>> Tim Wildmon: Six.

>> Fred Jackson: All right, I made it to six.

>> Tim Wildmon: You made it to six.

>> Fred Jackson: One more.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Italy.

>> Fred Jackson: Italy.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, of course. You left Italy out. I'm not even sure how we squeaked in, but.

>> Tim Wildmon: So seventh. So that's the G7. That's the G7.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Now sometimes they have meetings of, world economic meetings of a larger number of nations around.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: The World Economic Council usually meets in Davos.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: And that's always.

>> Tim Wildmon: Never been invited to that. But I, hear they have a good time.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And then the Bilderberg Group, that meets underground in some, some hollowed out cavern, they meet to run the world, too.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, all right, we'll let you get to that a little bit later.

>> Ed Vitagliano: and don't forget the Masons.

>> Tim Wildmon: We'll get to that too. In infant baptism.

>> Ed Vitagliano: No, we're not getting.

>> Tim Wildmon: You want to get into that one? How about speaking in tongues? No, we don't deal with that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: No. No.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. All right. Take a coffee break. Let you handle all these hot button issues. So how about that?

>> Fred Jackson: And it's got an auditorial on women pastors.

>> Ed Vitagliano: No, not that either.

Tim Ferriss apologizes for some sarcastic remarks about President Trump

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so, we, we want. Before we jump into the news of the day, we've got a 10. to 20. Would you say we did.

>> Ed Vitagliano: This is a family discussion with our listeners.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, we're about to have an open discussion here. Yeah, family discussion. What'd you say, Brent? Okay. Anyway, enough people have emailed us to say they are disappointed in Tim. I'm talking third person now. primarily, but you guys are mentioned too.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: So, negativity toward President Trump. That, that's the issue here. And something called S A R C a S M, which I'm being accused of.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Sarcasm.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is that what. Yeah, yeah, that's sarcastic in itself. but, yeah, but I do apologize for some of my sarcasm. Sarcasm can be used and we all, most people do use it from time to time.

>> Ed Vitagliano: But I've been known to be sarcastic.

>> Tim Wildmon: But. But I probably overdo it a little bit sometimes. no, you think.

>> Ed Vitagliano: See, that was.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know what, folks? It's so that being said, an apology being said, we've agreed to talk about this. It's very difficult, in our position here as a talk show and one that tries to maintain a, we do, we are overtly Christian, worldview, network and talk show. And. But with President Trump, I'll say this on the other side, you can't criticize him at all hardly without some people getting, upset because they, they view him as God's anointed choice to be the leader of the country. And he's trying his best and he already gets attacked by the liberal news media day after day after day. All that is true. All that is true. So when they hear us criticize President Trump, they view us as piling on with the secular media and hurting, his, efforts. That's the viewpoint of some in our listening audience. and there are some who say, hey, you need to keep pointing out that he's dissing Israel and that's not good from a biblical perspective.

>> Fred Jackson: So.

Ed: This is a talk show and it's an opinion talk show

>> Tim Wildmon: Ed, your time to talk here.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, listen, first of all, I want to remind people that, let me just toss up two or three things right off the top of my head here because we just agreed to talk. We agreed to talk about this just before we come on the air, so we haven't had a lot time to prepare. So first of all, I want to remind people that, as Tim said, this is a talk show and it's an opinion talk show. So we're talking about our opinion. We don't have an agenda against President Trump like the mainstream media.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right, Good point.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right. So second of all, it's illegal for us to be the lapdog for either political party.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. Because we're a nonprofit, so that doesn't enter into it. We say what we think.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Without, you know, reference or deference to the irs. Third, it's a Christian talk show. So. And it's a Christian network. So we're going to present things from m a Christian perspective. And sometimes that is going to run cross grain to the, Republican Party or what conservatives are doing.

Christian: I think Donald Trump was picked by God to be president

So having, having said those kind of things, let me just give my personal opinion. I think Donald Trump was picked by God to be the president. I do think he is a TR could be, could be a transformational president. I, think God is using him, as a foil fo I l to, kind of manifest a lot of what has gone on for a long time. Both political parties in D.C. i like 90%, 95% of what President Trump has been doing. Having said that, this has been a difficult, term for him. I've had some concerns with, for example, whether he has constitutional authority to do the tariffs. I think we should be allowed to say that, because once President Trump leaves. I trust President Trump. When he started slapping tariffs, I think what he was trying to point out was.

>> Tim Wildmon: And he slapped them. He slapped them. Yeah, slapped them.

>> Ed Vitagliano: he was trying to point out the unfairness with which America has been treated for a long, long time. Agree with it. But once President Trump is out of office, somebody else is going to be in office. We need to maintain constitutional guardrails on the presidency. I have been a little bit critical. I have sometimes a lot critical with this Iran war, you know, that's gone on for three months, and that has draw probably more negativity from us here on the show, than normal. I think that has frustrated some of our listeners. Okay. But this is a big deal, people. We can't just simply say, everything the president does is okay. All right? And we're. Listen, we're being honest. We don't have an agenda. And that's the thing I want to try to drive home to the people who were disappointed and any criticism of President Trump. We don't have an agenda. I want President Trump to succeed. And he is not only. He's not the only one making these decisions. He has people around him who are advising him. And so criticisms of foreign policy decisions and wars that could spread and cause a lot of deaths is a valid thing for us to talk about, I think. And so I just want to encourage them to let Fred talk a little bit here, too. I just. We're just asking, folks. Just. People have emailed us and said, pray for President Trump. Well, do you pray for us? We're asking you to pray for us as well. We're not piling on. We are most, of the time just saying what we think the president should or should not do. And that's the purpose of the program. And all I can say is, you know, I think we all love President Trump. We want him to succeed because we want America to succeed. But. But nobody does everything the right way. Well, I guess is. Which is why people are sometimes criticizing us.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: I just look back over our coverage over the last ten years.

>> Ed Vitagliano: very positive, Very positive.

>> Fred Jackson: You stop to think about when he was in office, President Trump, his first term, we were all praised for just about everything he did. And then when he was out of office and Joe Biden was president. We dumped all over Joe Biden.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: And the way that the legal system treated Donald, Trump at that time.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's a good point.

>> Fred Jackson: We did shows about that unending. Because it was four years of just horrible treatment of Donald Trump. So he gets elected to office now, and I agree with you, you guys, I mean, God has allowed him another term in office, but that doesn't mean everything he does is perfect because he's a man and he makes mistakes. I. To be honest, I have been particularly troubled over the last three months or so of his comments about Prime Minister Netanyahu, about the way he's treated Israel. And he said about Prime Minister Netanyahu, I told him, I'm the boss and he's going to do anything I tell him to do.

>> Frank Turek: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: Wait a minute. Prime Minister Netanyahu is defending his country against terrorists who are parked on his back doorstep? What do you expect us to say? Yeah, you know, it's just we have to point out what is, I believe, extremely, I'll put it this way, extremely unfair comments about Prime Minister Netanyahu. Sometimes it has felt like all that matters to President Trump is that a win for the United States and Israel gets in the way, we're going to toss them aside. That is very dangerous spiritually, folks.

>> Ed Vitagliano: for our country.

>> Fred Jackson: For our country. It really is. Genesis, chapter 12 you need. And we are a Christian organization. We are a biblically based organization, and we are not going to compromise on that standard just to make some people happy about not saying anything negative about President Trump.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And let me just toss in here, I hope. I hope President Trump succeeds in all these endeavors. I hope that Venezuela is able to turn around. I hope that Cuba is able to be freed. I don't want Canada as our 51st state. We kind of joked around about that. I'd like something to be done with Greenland. I hope he gets. President Trump gets the win of the century. In terms of Iran. Okay. I hope that, that, and I think. I think what President Trump wanted to accomplish in Iran was a worthy goal. Okay. So I'm not rooting against him. I want him to. I want him to succeed. But we can disagree about the path to that.

I hope our listeners still think of us as a family at Thanksgiving

And so I just, Listen, I hope our listeners still think of us as a. As a family. I'm guessing when you meet at Thanksgiving, there's people that you love, that you disagree with on certain topics.

>> Tim Wildmon: Other than turkey.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Other than turkey. and. And you. You can still love them when the meal is over. I hope people will Grant us that here on today's issues.

The way President Trump treats people publicly bothers me. It sticks in my craw

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, one other thing, and this is just personal. This is me personally and not. Not. I'm not speaking for anybody else. I can, but I'm not going to.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It depends what you're about to say.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm going to.

>> Tim Wildmon: I have a particular problem. It sticks in my craw. Is it claw or craw?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Craw.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. In my craw. I don't know what a craw is exactly where it is in your body, but it sticks there. The way that, President Trump treats people publicly is, oftentimes it's very. He'll. He, he goes to the lowest common denominator, and he does it very quickly. And I pointed that out before, and I thought people just want to stick their hands in their ear and not hear it. I think that that deserves, critique because it reflects on the character of the person. And, so I have a problem with that. A lot of people don't. They don't care. Hey, you know, they don't care or they will say, well, he's. When you say, well, he's, you know, dissed somebody or lied about somebody, and he's tell, he's told fibs on about people publicly. you know, he called Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, the worst governor in America, or something to that effect. He called Thomas Massie, made fun of him. You remember that? On a personal way. So he can go down and dirty Trump can.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And that has bothered you. It's bothered, I'm sure, bothers most of our listeners when he does that.

>> Tim Wildmon: So, if you oppose him in any way, get ready for being called low iq, like Marjorie Greene Taylor, somebody like that. So that part of him bothers me almost more than anything else is the way he behaves and talks about people publicly and his open profanity. he's just, I'm talking about words, and I know words. Sticks and stones. I know that.

>>  : Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: but that, that bothers me when he does that kind of thing. I know he's not the first president to curse.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: But he, but he does so on his true social and interviews. Now, F bombs and things of that nature. Just, I'm just going. If you can't criticize that part of it without people thinking you hate Donald Trump, then I don't, I don't, I don't see that as a fair criticism of us. You see what I'm saying?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right?

>> Tim Wildmon: So. And you know, when you put a picture up, of you being dressed like Jesus Christ.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Healing people. And then when we say, well, that's blasphemous. Then people say, oh, don't, don't criticize President Trump. He's, you know, he's trying to. He didn't mean that. You see what.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. I think all we're asking. We're, all we're asking people is to understand this is not part of an anti Trump agenda.

>> Tim Wildmon: No.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And I think that's unfair to say that we're no better than.

>> Tim Wildmon: You can't be a lap dog either.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, we're not like the mainstream media. We don't have an agenda. We don't want to see him fail.

>> Tim Wildmon: No.

>> Ed Vitagliano: But, but we do have to be honest about our opinions. I understand some people don't want to hear anything critical about the president. I respect that. You know, but, you know, we don't want.

>> Tim Wildmon: Here's what you'll get sometimes from well meaning people. I think you'll get. If you say anything critical, they'll say, well, you just need to pray for him. That's their answer. don't be negative. Just pray for him. How do you answer that one? Dad?

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's a talk show. it's a talk show. This is, this sounds weird. I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea. This is not a prayer program. This is a talk show about current events.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

Fred Whitaker: Some stories are more important than others

>> Ed Vitagliano: So we've got to talk about the most important things that are happening, the best of our ability to put them in some sort of order. Some stories are more important than others. We're not going to spend the 90, minutes praying. People say, well, you're a Christian. Well, I pray. Personally pray for the president. Okay. I personally pray. I prayed for Joe Biden when he was president. Okay. This is a talk show. If, if I want to encourage our listeners, tune in to try to learn something, even if it's a different perspective, though, I think the worst thing in the world would be for people to turn in to hear what they expect to hear and they want to hear because they already believe it. Maybe we can all learn something, from opinions that are different than our own.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, when, for example, when President Trump goes to China and calls the leader of Communist China a great, A leader, you're a great leader, he says, and then comes home and says, congressman Thomas Massie's a worse, A terrible human being.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, right. We got, we got to say something about that. It doesn't mean we're trying to undermine the president.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: All right.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Go, Fred.

Tim: I corrected Fred on boxing at the White House celebration

>> Fred Jackson: All right. As we said, President Trump is now in France for the opening of the G7 meeting. He just arrived there about, 45 minutes ago after flying overnight after the, boxing match at the White House, the celebration of his 80th birthday. By the way.

>> Tim Wildmon: It wasn't boxing.

>> Fred Jackson: Fred, happy birthday. It wasn't. I'm sorry.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, it was wrestling.

>> Fred Jackson: Okay. All right, again.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, people, here you go. So you're going to say, tim, get off Fred's back. And, was I, out of line there to correct Fred on boxing? Boxing is its own sport, right?

>> Ed Vitagliano: No, it's a different Fred.

>> Tim Wildmon: Are you offended?

>> Fred Jackson: Not at all.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: They're distinct.

>> Fred Jackson: Care less what happened in that ring.

>> Tim Wildmon: It was, it was multiple mma, fights. That's what. And that's when they, it's more than boxing. They use their legs and they try to beat people into ground beef.

>> Fred Jackson: Yep. So at the same time, he celebrated his 80th birthday. Happy birthday, President Trump. he's absolutely amazing what he can do at 80 years of age. So he gets on after all that's over. He gets on an airplane and flies all night and arrives just 45 minutes ago in France.

President Obama announced a memorandum of understanding with Iran on Friday

But the big news from yesterday was the memorandum of understanding that was announced that, if the administration gets everything they want, will bring an end, supposedly, hopefully to the conflict with Iran. Right now, this memorandum of understanding, brokered mainly by Pakistan, starts with the simultaneous lifting of Iran's closure of the Strait of Hormuz and the US Blockade of Iran's ports. Now, this is supposed to be signed into place on Friday when the President is in Geneva. That's what's supposed to happen. Now, wait a minute.

>> Tim Wildmon: The President himself.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Because at first he had said, I'm sending Vice President Vance.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. But the word this morning is he's going to hang around after the G7 and be there for the signing of this. That's the word this morning. Once that is done, once that is signed in place, the two sides will then enter a 60 day period of negotiations over Iran's nuclear program, potential lifting of sanctions. That according to various press reports this morning. But the big deal that a lot of people are excited about right now is hopefully seeing the end of that blockade and the. What's been going on in the Strait of Hormuz that has affected gas prices, oil prices, et cetera, et cetera. the markets are acting very positively, reacting very positively to this this morning. The price of barrel of oil has already gone down in some places, five, six bucks a barrel. So people are excited. They want this to succeed. but you know, there's questions and debate this morning about, okay, how are you going to verify, how are you going to verify if Iran says yes, we are no longer treating uranium to get it to the point where it can be used in nuclear weapons. Questions are being asked, who's going to verify that? How is it going to be verified? Who's going to go in there and can we trust the Iranians? Those questions are being asked. There's also some discussion this morning about what do you mean we're going to lift sanctions on Iran? What does that entail? Some people are saying, isn't that the same thing that Barack Obama did in a different way? So they're again talking about questions being raised. We're just bringing those questions that are being raised to our audience. there's, there's more to be unveiled as time goes on in this and but right now the administration is very excited about this and we hope the other thing that that is not mentioned so far. You'll remember early on there was hope that there would be regime change in Tehran. There is no talk about that this morning. None whatsoever. So the people who have, ah, been,

>> Tim Wildmon: there's not going to be regime change in Iran unless the people of Iran have a revolution.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And and that would require support from the branch of the military not controlled.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: By the irgc.

>>  : Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's, that's a long shot. The Islamic Revolutionary, Guard The Core, the rgc.

>> Tim Wildmon: But they're also a big insurance company.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Irgc.

>> Tim Wildmon: Irgc.

>>  : Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're safe with irgc. Have you never heard that?

>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I haven't heard that.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, well, we return with Dr. Frank Turek coming up momentarily. Stay with us.

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Tim Wildmon: We are going to Italy and Greece in 2027

>> Tim Wildmon: Tim Wildmon M President of American Family association and American Family Radio. We are going to Italy in March of 2027. We're also going to Greece in March of 2027. And we're doing those tours, but back to back. If you want to do both of them in Italy, we'll be going to Venice at, the gondola and see all the sights there. And we'll go to Pisa and walk on the Leaning tower of if you fall off, we're not responsible. Also, we're going to Rome and see the Sistine Chapel and the Coliseum and all the catacombs. We'll see all the sites of Rome. And in Greece, it's the footsteps of Paul trips. So the places where Paul went in the Bible mentioned in Greece. If you want information on any of these tours, go to tours.afa.net tours.afa.net tours.aca.net

>> Frank Turek: we are pressed on every side by

>> Tim Wildmon: troubles, but we are not crushed. We are perplexed, but not driven to despair. We are hunted down, but never abandoned by God.

>> Frank Turek: We get knocked down, but we are not destroyed. 2 Corinthians 4, 8, 9.

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American Family Radio Network welcomes Frank Turek on today's issues

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim, Ed and Fred, we're just happy to be here, folks. We are absolutely, glad that we can bring you news and information from a Christian perspective each and every day here on today's issues. And, we're going to continue to do that with the best of our ability, aren't we, Ed?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Absolutely. Best of our ability. And that may explain why we're subpar sometimes.

>> Fred Jackson: All right, I did want to say I didn't watch the match last night at the White House.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, the boxing match.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, I didn't watch it because I was watching a more gentle sport.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, Stanley Cup's over with now.

>> Fred Jackson: It's over. Congratulations. How many games to the Hurricanes?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Carolina Hurricanes won in six games, beating the Vegas Golden Knights.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, we got a guest on from North Carolina.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, he's probably all over this.

>> Tim Wildmon: Our good friend, Dr. Frank Turek. Good Morning, brother Frank.

>> Frank Turek: Well, you know, growing up in NewSong Jersey, yes, I was always a Knick fan. I kind of did not watch the NBA for about the past 20 years, but I did watch some of the finals. And, man, Brunson is amazing, isn't he?

>> Tim Wildmon: When they win, they m. Get a bandwagon.

>> Frank Turek: No, I mean he's too short.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah.

>> Frank Turek: He can't play.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, you're talking about the, The player for the NewSong York Knicks. What's his first name?

>> Frank Turek: Jalen Brunson.

>> Tim Wildmon: Jalen. But yeah, that guy's phenomenal. I watched, I watched the series, the Knicks and the spurs, and you got this hulking, I, say hulking, very tall. Seven four, seven five.

>> Frank Turek: French.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Frank Turek: French center.

>> Tim Wildmon: He's a. He's a great player. But Brunson for the, Nick's is six two. And he just schooled those guys all these.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's the first championship for the NewSong York Knicks in 53 years. Is that what you said?

>> Frank Turek: That's the last time they won. Willis Reed. Walt Frazier.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Walt Frazier. And that was a great team. Dave Debusscher.

>> Tim Wildmon: Earl the Pearl. Wasn't Earl the Pearl Monroe on there?

>> Frank Turek: Earl the Pearl may have gotten on there about that time, maybe just after that.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know how much, How much taller the, basketball players have gotten because of evolution.

>> Frank Turek: Evolution. Nutrition.

>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, over the years, basketball players have always been, quote, tall as it relates to the general population. But the NewSong York Knicks, they had us. Earl the Pearl Monroe was 6 3. I remember this because I watched him. I was a fan too, Walt. Clyde Frazier was six four. Those were the guards. Guards today are six eight. Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: in the NBA for the.

>> Frank Turek: Not Jalen Brunson.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's right. He's six two.

>> Frank Turek: You know, Tim, their radio announcer when they won, said there was no deficit too big or guard too small.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, because they came back from that.

>> Frank Turek: I know.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The greatest comeback in NBA Finals history.

>> Tim Wildmon: Rigged. Yeah. Come on, guys. Come on.

>> Frank Turek: And then the Hurricanes here in Carolina.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. I wanted to ask you. The Hurricanes. You gotta admit, there's something not right by using the words Carolina and Stanley cup champions in the same. They're just not supposed to happen like that.

>> Frank Turek: Come on. You got the Florida team. That one.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I know, I know.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Florida Panthers from Miami.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And then the Tampa Bay Lightning won a couple. So.

Northern teams need to get back, uh, taking

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Times change.

>> Tim Wildmon: So. So the Northern. Northern teams need to get back, taking. Reclaiming their sport.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And the poor Canadian.

>> Fred Jackson: Don't hold your breath, okay? Don't hold your breath. Ah, the Canadian, you know, well, a little defensive here. The Canadians team. Teams have a rough time competing financially

>> Ed Vitagliano: because of their high tax rate.

>> Fred Jackson: Oh, the dollar difference right now is like 40. so can you blame a Canadian player wanting to come to the United

>> Ed Vitagliano: States and going to a Florida team? This is, I think this is a real thing.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: With no income tax.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes, exactly.

>> Tim Wildmon: So you can spend your winners in Mont. You can spend them in Miami.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: You pick.

>> Fred Jackson: Making a whole lot more money I got.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, so those are realities.

>> Tim Wildmon: What they call a no brainer.

>> Frank Turek: All right.

>> Tim Wildmon: What do you call that?

>> Frank Turek: A score.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, true. What have you been up to, Frank? What's your. What do. What do you. What used to, Now that the summer's here, you're not going to college campuses?

>> Frank Turek: Not colleges. Been going to churches and, some other events. I was at Prestonwood in Dallas yesterday. It's a great church. You may know Jack Gramp, pastor down there.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.

>> Frank Turek: And, we're going.

>> Tim Wildmon: What were you doing? What did you speak on there?

>> Frank Turek: Oh, well, we actually talked about a lot of things. It was me, Jack, and Dr. Jeremiah Johnston, and we, we talked about, the founding of the country. We talked about what happened with Charlie Kirk. we talked about the resurrection.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, did you see Kirby Anderson? Because.

>> Frank Turek: What?

>> Tim Wildmon: Kirby goes to church there, I think.

>> Frank Turek: No, I didn't see Kirby. I didn't see him. Of course, there's only like 10,000 people that go there.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Frank Turek: I may have missed him.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, he's part of the Anderson clan that lives right there in, Dallas Fort Worth area.

Tim Carter: I'm not confident any deal you negotiate with Iran is worth it

Well, okay, so we wanted to get your take on the, situation with Iran. I know you traveled in that part of the world, and follow it. What do you think about where we are, with, these negotiations and this. What's. What's happened so far, this memorandum of understanding. And then we're supposed to get into negotiating, what they're going to do about their nuclear program. Go ahead.

>> Frank Turek: Yeah. One of the problems is it's very difficult, if not impossible to negotiate and trust a group whose ideology says you can lie to the infidel, and that is their ideology. So I know Trump thinks he can negotiate with anyone, but that's just not true. I mean, how are they going to hold up their end of the deal? Their end of the deal is to subvert whatever the United States wants. And until there's regime change there, probably nothing's going to happen. Now, how can you get regime change? I don't know, I'm just saying I'm not confident that any deal you negotiate with an Islamic, Shiite government like them is worth the paper it's written on. And by the way, we don't even know what's in the deal because the MoU, the memorandum, memorandum of understanding, hasn't been released yet. So we're all speculating as to what's in it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, yeah. Good. So the situation is this. There is a memorandum of understanding, and that's different than an agreement, formal agreement. But President Trump says the formal agreement is supposed. Peace agreement is supposed to be signed Friday in Geneva. In Geneva, if all goes according to plan. And then I guess at that time we'll find out exactly what was in it. President Ronald Reagan in dealing with the Soviet Union said this. And we all, most people know this quote with regard to, an agreement with Communist, country and Soviet Union, which a lot of their dealings were dealt, were had to do with deception. Right. I mean, that's.

>> Tim Wildmon: They have no problem with lying because it's part of getting to their ultimate objective. I'm talking about atheistic states like the former Soviet Union. But President Trump said we're going to trust, but verify. And I think I would like to hear those words from President Trump to trust, but verify and then tell us how we're going to verify. If in fact you can. I don't know exactly. What do you, you know, do you have our nuclear scientists stay at the Holiday Inn in Tehran and, you know, I'm not sure exactly. Now I will say this. Mossad, the Israeli equivalent of our CIA, and our CIA, we do have ways of knowing what's going on in Iran. That's how we knew where they were enriching their uranium, in the first place. So that's how we knew what was going on and how close they were to developing a nuclear weapon. So we do have spies, we have intelligence. So that is a way to verify. But, I don't, I'm like Frank, I don't trust, the Iranian regime. They still, they haven't changed their ideology of, hatred for the US Hatred for Israel. But go ahead.

>> Frank Turek: I was going to say, Tim, you know, this is one aspect of our constitution they don't have, and that is the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment was designed to prevent a despotic government from overpowering the will of the people. The reason that regime change hasn't happened there yet is because people don't have weapons over there. it's not until the army turns on the mullahs. Is that going to change? the Second Amendment is not to protect your right to go deer hunting, okay. The Second Amendment is there to protect the citizens from a despotic government. They don't have that in Iran. And so the people there are at the mercy of the folks who are in power. And, I don't know if that's going to change until the, until maybe the army stops getting paid and fed. Nothing's going to change.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. And then they could have a coup, sort of a reverse coup to what happened with the Islamic revolution.

>> Frank Turek: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Then when they threw out the Shah and replaced it with the Mullos, the, Ayatollah Khomeini.

>> Frank Turek: Well, courtesy of Jimmy Carter, by the way.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, that was a disaster.

>> Frank Turek: One that greenlighted that. Yeah.

Frank Rothenberg: I think this could politically work for Republicans

>> Ed Vitagliano: Let me, ask another question here, Frank. because, generally I'm always quick to say I don't trust communists. Okay. But I trust communist China, a little bit more than I trust the, the mullahs, simply because I, and this is the same thing with the Soviet

>> Tim Wildmon: Union, the leaders of Iran.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: that at least when you have communist leaders, they do want to survive. They, they do want to stay in power. They don't want nuclear war. But it seems to me, and you correct me if I'm wrong, and then please maybe do a little bit quick teaching to our, our listening audience about this kind of Islamic revolutionary ideology that is rooted in Iran. They, as far as I understand their way of looking at the world, they call it 12, or the, you know, the 12th Eva, Imam, the 12 or Imam Shia, theology. They expect nuclear war or some sort of chaotic, result in the Middle east, and that's why they funnel all this money to these terrorist organizations. Am I right about that? Which would, which would mean that I trust them even less than I do communists because it seems like they want the Middle east to burn. Am I right about that or wrong?

>> Frank Turek: Yeah. Some of them think that they can bring in the end times by creating a global conflict. It turns out that their so called savior is our Antichrist. They think that if they, not all of them, but some in the Shia community think that they can bring forth the end times and the 12th Imam by creating a global conflict.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Frank Turek: And so I think if they ever do really get a nuke, they will use it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Frank Turek: By the way, every president has said that that's not just Trump. I mean, that goes, that goes back. Obama said this. They all said the same thing. Right. We know that we can't allow them to get a nuke. Now. That's what this MOU is supposed to do. But the devil is always in the details. We haven't seen the details, so we don't know. We don't know what's going to happen.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, we'll know Friday.

>> Frank Turek: Yeah, we might. And it could be that, you know, Trump is trying to get oil prices down in time for the midterms. And then.

>> Tim Wildmon: Such a cynic.

>> Frank Turek: Yeah, it could be. It really could be.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know what?

>> Frank Turek: And then, and then after the midterms, if they, if they have reneged on the deal, they're going right back in. I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, we will know. The world will know the details, I think, on Friday, because it has to be. It's going to be a formal agreement that's signed by both parties, the Iranian leadership, whoever's going to sign for them, and the, president himself.

>> Ed Vitagliano: This could, this, listen, this could politically could work for Republicans. And here's, here's why I say that. Because whatever this deal is, if in fact it is signed on Friday and we get some details, I think from the perspective of the Iranian regime, they need some time to build back their economic, funds, their military. I think this would work to get, to keep Iran behaving past the midterms because they do need time to rebuild. One of the things that President Trump accomplished and the US Military did this in devastating fashion is they seriously degraded the ability of Iran to wage war, certainly. Yeah. So, they need time to rebuild, their military infrastructure. So I think they would at least behave themselves for the next, who knows, next six months, next year. Okay. So that, that would be a positive for conservatives in this country to maybe get the economy going in the right direction and perhaps stave off devastating in the midterms.

>> Tim Wildmon: So we keep saying that the belief, and this is true, the belief system of the Shia Islamic religion, which is what Iran is under, they believe in. It's a very apocalyptic, view they need to usher in. They can do certain things in the world. The Iranians can. The Shia Muslims can to, bring in the 12th Imam. Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Some of them believe that it's a faction of Shia.

>> Tim Wildmon: So for an AFR T shirt, Frank, name Imam number seven.

>> Frank Turek: Well, I have a harder question for

>> Tim Wildmon: you, and it's not. His name is not Bill. Okay.

>> Frank Turek: I have a more difficult question.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, go.

>> Frank Turek: You ready?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I'm ready.

>> Frank Turek: You've grown up, Mississippi. Maybe. Maybe you can answer this.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, and I don't know if I've

>> Frank Turek: asked you this question before, but when a dairy cow fails to give its milk.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Frank Turek: Is it a milk dud or an utter failure?

>> Tim Wildmon: You've been hanging around jj, Jasper too much, I think, but a boom.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I. I would like to say Musa Al Kazeem was the. Clearly the seventh imam. I don't know who doesn't know this?

>> Tim Wildmon: You type, Mr. Google.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Musa Al Kazim, also known as Musa Ibn Jaffar Al Kazim.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Was the seventh, also known as Moose.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, baby, he was really good MMA guy right there.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, he was 745.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. So, anyway,

Frank Turek welcomes Nick Freitas on American Family Radio this weekend

All right, Frank. Well, what. What do you got coming up? do you know yet what you got coming up?

>> Frank Turek: We're gonna have the great Nick Freitas on this weekend.

>> Tim Wildmon: No way.

>> Frank Turek: Nick is. You know. Nick is right.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, no, no, I don't.

>> Frank Turek: Oh, man. You got to go online. The Guy has like 3 million followers. He's a conservative, used to be in the Virginia delegates. Former Greene Beret. He's out of the Virginia house now.

>> Tim Wildmon: And, 3 million followers.

>> Frank Turek: Something like that. He has. He's a lot of home homespun wisdom.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's more than the seventh imam from the Bible.

>> Ed Vitagliano: He was in the, Virginia House of Delegates, wasn't he?

>> Frank Turek: He was.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You recognize the picture? You seen this guy? Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So anyway, you're having him on. What are you going to talk about?

>> Frank Turek: Well, we're going to talk about a lot of his homespun wisdom that, has a lot of people excited, you know.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Frank Turek: He just gets right to the point. Nick Friedis.

>> Fred Jackson: All right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Looking forward to it. That's the I Don't have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist radio show.

>> Frank Turek: Correct.

>> Tim Wildmon: Which airs, Saturdays and Sundays right here on American Family radio. Saturdays at 9:00am Central Time, then Sunday afternoon. What time? 4:00 Central Time, right here on American Family Radio, Dr. Frank Turek. So be sure to tune into that. We have a great lineup on Saturdays, so, we have a great lineup all the time.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Every. Every day.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. All right, Frank. Take care, my friend. Appreciate you being on with us.

>> Frank Turek: Hey, nobody answered. Is it a milk dud or an utter failure? What is it?

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm gonna go out of failure.

>> Frank Turek: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Utter failure.

>> Frank Turek: All right.

>> Fred Jackson: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: What is that? What is that? What do you say? What is that? Dairy cow that doesn't produce milk.

>> Frank Turek: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: the Milk Dud or an utter

>> Tim Wildmon: Failure to remember that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I mean, that's kind of getting in JJ territory there.

>> Tim Wildmon: Frank, Mike even knows JJ but they may know each other.

>> Frank Turek: I don't know.

>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, you don't know J.J. jasper.

>> Tim Wildmon: I heard of them, but their paths wouldn't have crossed necessarily. So. All right. thank you, Frank. Appreciate it.

>> Frank Turek: God bless you guys.

>> Fred Jackson: Okay.

Today's Issues airs on the American Family Radio Network

All right.

>> Tim Wildmon: by the way, guys, there's something going on in our country right now called the World cup or something.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Soccer.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know. by the way, you're listening to. If you're wondering what show you're listening to, Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. We're here every Monday through Friday. Fridays, we have our trivia show, Tim, Ed and Fred here today.

Tim: This World cup is going on in America, but America

Tim, Ed and Fred. So this World cup is a big deal. And it's, going on in America, but America. Okay, well, one thing, Ed, that I'm m. If we can just be honest here. Your sarcasm is really disturbing.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, that was sarcastic. There are a lot of soccer fans, probably amongst our listeners, and we

>> Tim Wildmon: don't want to lose them.

>> Ed Vitagliano: No, we don't.

>> Tim Wildmon: So can you dial it back?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I'll dial it back, I promise. World cup, baby.

>> Tim Wildmon: This. This World cup is going on. I just say that because, America, there's a lot of things that pull our attention. Right?

>> Frank Turek: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And not everybody's a soccer fan.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: But it's a, Soccer is the number one sport around the world.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, it is.

>> Tim Wildmon: And the Once. It's kind of like the Olympics of soccer. Basically, once every four years, the world gets together someplace and they have this tournament. and what's pretty cool about it is that every. Every country sends their team. And so you have countries of 3 million people playing against countries of 300 million people. It's unfair in that regard.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: but that's just the way it is. Every country sends its, team, and so we got a bit. I don't know. How long does it last? Like, two weeks, three weeks? How long do you know Fred?

>> Fred Jackson: No, I'm not sure. Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ed knows Ed. Type it. Type into Google. How long does World cup tournament last? And see what. See what it says. because we may have the.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's in the United States.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, we established that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Last three minutes.

>> Fred Jackson: All right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm trying. I'm trying to catch up.

>> Tim Wildmon: yes. Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Wow. The 20, 26. FIFA.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's what it's called.

>> Ed Vitagliano: World Cup. FIFA. Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: I had a dog.

>> Ed Vitagliano: This is pretty. This is pretty sad.

>> Tim Wildmon: FIFA.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Because I Don't even. I don't. I thought that's. How little I follow. Is a FIFA or a FIFA?

>> Tim Wildmon: It's. It's either one.

>> Ed Vitagliano: this is. I know, folks. I know. There's. Groans. Is the longest in history lasting 39 days from 6-11-to 7-12-19.

>> Tim Wildmon: Because I was wrong about two weeks.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The duration, previous record of 32 days held by the 2014 and 2018 tournaments due to the tournament's expansion to 48 teams and 104 matches.

>> Fred Jackson: Now they're, they're playing in three countries.

>> Tim Wildmon: Canada, US and Mexico.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: But I think the finals will be in NewSong York City whenever the finals get here.

>>  : Oh, okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So this is in 3. 3. So some of them are. Yeah. And the only. Some of them are in the US

>> Tim Wildmon: but the US as far as I know, just never. We flame out in soccer for some reason. Even though we got millions of kids that play soccer here. We just never have advanced that I can remember to the finals. Maybe I'm wrong about that. Go ahead. What were you going to say?

Ed: People are posting videos on YouTube about how America is not expected

>> Ed Vitagliano: I will say this. I, And it's FIFA. Okay. So I just, I just looked it up.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I have been noting on X, that people are posting videos, people from other countries who have come to the U.S. that's why I thought it was only in the U.S. but they're talking about how America is not like they expected because especially Europeans because they were told that the US is, you know, it's violent, it's dirty, it's backwards. And they're just amazed at what American culture is like, not at all what they expected. So I have been paying attention to those videos.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, it's pretty cool.

>> Ed Vitagliano: But it's really got nothing to do.

>> Tim Wildmon: See. Well, so called. It reflects positively on the U.S. yeah. When we have foreigners come here and travel around and. And they like it. Yeah, they like seeing the USA and ah, we're a big country.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's one of the things I've noted a lot of videos people come and they, they don't understand how. They never really understood how big this country is and how big the individual states are. By and large, places like NewSong Jersey.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, Rhode island aren't necessarily that big, but you know, you can go in a matter of hours just about anywhere in Europe.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: But hours in states here in the

>> Tim Wildmon: US Shining sea is a pretty good distance.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's a pretty good distance. Pretty, pretty for piece.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Yep, yep. all right. You are listening to today's issues.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Fred, by the way, Are we still in it? Is the us still in it, soccer wise?

>> Fred Jackson: I would assume. I would assume you're.

>> Tim Wildmon: I think we've only played one game. Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: This is.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hopefully we hadn't highlighted my.

>> Ed Vitagliano: If I needed another.

>> Tim Wildmon: But, you know. But who's highlighting your ignorance?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I am.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's what I'm going to say. I'm, not. You can control some things in your life, Ed.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Just keep your mouth shut.

>> Fred Jackson: The Bible talks about that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Just keep your mouth shut. And removing all doubt. Something like that. There's something saying you can be thought of fool or you can open your mouth and remove all doubt. Something like that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Send the message. That's in Proverbs thing. All right, we're going to take a break right here. Be back with more of today's issues. We got 25 more minutes to go. and we got some more topics to get to. Stay with us. The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of

>> Frank Turek: the American Family association or American Family Radio.

>> Ed Vitagliano: M.

Tim, Ed and Fred discuss the details that we know currently on the Iranian Deal. Plus, Dr. Frank Turek joins the show to share his opinion as well.