Today's Issues continues on AFR with Steve Paisley Jordo
>> Ed Vitagliano: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to Today's Issues. Tim, Ed and Wesley here. And now, Steve Paisley Jordo.
>> Steve Jordahl: Hey, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: Good morning, brother Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: How y' all doing today?
>> Tim Wildmon: Everybody's good, Steve. We're in a good mood, Krish. Really. He brought forth a lot of positive stories, didn't he, Ed?
>> Ed Vitagliano: absolutely.
>> Tim Wildmon: And he did it with a good attitude, didn't he?
>> Ed Vitagliano: He had a good attitude, plenty of energy.
>> Tim Wildmon: He did. He said, now that Red Bull do you drink three of up like he did that that's gonna cause a mid afternoon crash.
>> Wesley Wildmon: It will think.
>> Tim Wildmon: but Krish, he brought it for, for the moment.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. And that's, that's what's important. Doesn't matter what the consequences are later on in the day.
>> Tim Wildmon: Anybody here drink Red Bull?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Occasionally.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. When do you drink Red Bull?
>> Wesley Wildmon: I drink Red Bull about four times a year.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: When I'm driving and you're tired and tired. And it's getting late in the day.
>> Tim Wildmon: A long trip. So there's a chemical purpose for it.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. Oh, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: To jack you up for about an hour or two. How long does it take elevated.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So if you drink an eight ounce Red Bull, which they make them, they make them up to like 24 ounces. What you do not recommend.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's bad for your heart though, isn't it?
>> Wesley Wildmon: A little bit of no.
>> Tim Wildmon: 8 ounces is an 8 ounce Red Bull.
>> Wesley Wildmon: No.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, go ahead.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That depends on who you ask. Because they don't quantify what I just said. It depends on how much you drink.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: but now 8 ounce Red Bull will, takes about 15 minutes to kick in. So you could actually drink it, sit there and play on your phone and then get going. And it will last. Will last of just like this.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Does it give you wings?
>> Wesley Wildmon: I mean, your eyes are like.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Wesley Wildmon: You don't even drive it.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's helpful.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. And you don't even feel like. You don't even go like.
>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, is it caffeine?
>> Wesley Wildmon: It's caffeine. A lot of it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That the dumbest thing I ever did.
>> Tim Wildmon: You sure you want to share this?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm going to share this because you
>> Tim Wildmon: can't go back once you've shared it on live national radio. It's out there. The Internet lives forever.
>> Ed Vitagliano: In the context of our discussion when I was a youth pastor and therefore, invincible.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. I Took my young people. We had a lock in.
>> Tim Wildmon: Big mistake.
>> Ed Vitagliano: A lock in on, Friday night. So I was up all night long. And then I drove the youth 12 hours to a week long camp M. Man, that was. I don't know how many times I had to stop.
>> Tim Wildmon: You drove the van.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I drove the van.
>> Tim Wildmon: They were all stand up all night.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I got no, I got sleepy. Well, it was, it was, it was. It was a dangerous thing.
>> Steve Jordahl: I would like it.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I would like to add. And by the way, I heard that you did a terrible thing. You shouldn't have done that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I should have done that.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know, but you should have got. Nobody was hurt.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Should have taken a rebel because it reduces fatigue. Red Bull contains vitamin B, B6, B12.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Here's what happens with this kind of stuff and, I've seen it before. You got to read the stories. You get one person who misuses it and that's all.
Steve: Red Bull is bad for you. Yellow and red bottles are worse
They drink 24 ounces three times a day. They go, they go to a sport, then they go put their football gear on and then they end up having an incident.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And then the headline reads Red Bull.
>> Tim Wildmon: Bad for you.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Bad for you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: So I live on five Arrow energies.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Those are way worse. I'm just kidding. Those are, those are. They serve the same purpose.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yellow and red bottles, I see.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: At the menu store.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Says Jack something on it. Jack, Those little bottles. Jack say five iron somebody. Jack. Jack Daniels maybe.
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't think so. That's a different bottle.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That does not wake you up.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think it says Jack you up?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Ah, that's it.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. We better move on here.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because, we'll get a wide variety of opinions from our listeners.
>> Steve Jordahl: We like to hear from our listeners.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Listen, I already. I already sense the judgment on me.
>> Tim Wildmon: Do you?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. For that was that middle.
>> Tim Wildmon: It was a long time ago. And if you had to do it again, you wouldn't do it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No. I mean, I stopped when I was tired, but it took like 14 hours to get there. For a 12 hour trip.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Somewhere along the way, hour three or four, you're thinking, who in the world had this stupid idea?
>> Ed Vitagliano: And I raised my own hand and answered to it. 12 hours. 12 hours.
>> Tim Wildmon: Where do you have to drive 12 hours to a youth camp.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It was somewhere in Oklahoma.
>> Tim Wildmon: From where?
>> Ed Vitagliano: From tupelo.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, that's 12 hours. Okay. Well, I guess once you stop and everything. Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We stopped to eat and it wasn't straight through. I don't want people to think I was a complete Moron.
>> Steve Jordahl: Come on.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead, Steve.
Donald Trump wants to clean up Washington for 250th anniversary
>> Wesley Wildmon: All right.
>> Steve Jordahl: Hey, can we start with the latest example? Trump derangement syndrome.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: This is beautiful. So, Donald Trump has. Is wanting to clean up the nation's capital for our 250th anniversary. Which is. What is it called? The semi subsequent. I don't know there's a word for it.
>> Tim Wildmon: you're not even going to try
>> Steve Jordahl: sesquitennial or semi sesquitennial.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Semi.
>> Steve Jordahl: Sesquiten. Yeah. So like a 200.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So I had that once. I had to take some kind of. Put some kind of lotion on my feet. I had that semi sesquitenial. It was from being in on, you know, the.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: Donald Trump has decided he wants to clean up the town. He wants it to look nice. And so one of the things he's done is he has re. he's taken the reflecting pool, which is that long body of water between the Lincoln Memorial and the Washington memorial. World War II memorial.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: And the Washington M. Washington Monument. Anyway, this is the one where you see, the MLK I have a Dream speech was around that. Well, it is.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's the one that Jedi jumped into. Forrest Gump.
>> Steve Jordahl: There it is, Jed.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Sorry.
>> Steve Jordahl: and, so he has, went and resurfaced. That made it to all kinds of nice and blue and everything and. But they've, personally.
>> Tim Wildmon: Huh? well, you. Nothing. I'm sorry, I'm bad. You said he went and whole lot of.
>> Steve Jordahl: He had it done. He authorized a contract to reserve his basin. 2000 foot long pool. Anyway, he did it in an American flag blue and by all accounts it was just gorgeous. It really was beautiful. But it, started growing algae. The water started turning green. Well, the left here who want Donald Trump to fail at everything and anything always. They want him to fail at everything. they are now rooting for the algae. Listen to cut 11.
>> Tim Wildmon: She is doing good today.
>> Steve Jordahl: Honey,
>> Tim Wildmon: everybody's proud of you. You are single handedly doing more to fight fascism than any American.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: It doesn't sound like they got a lot. Enough people there to even have a secretary.
>> Steve Jordahl: It wasn't a large protest for their club.
>> Ed Vitagliano: they're rooting for the algae.
>> Steve Jordahl: Rooting for the algae to make.
>> Ed Vitagliano: As a way to fight fascism.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. I just, I feel sorry for these people.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I want to say something insulting, but I'm not because I'm a Christian.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I should just say bless their heart in the Southern.
>> Tim Wildmon: That is insulting.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But not directly, not to their faces.
>> Tim Wildmon: yeah, you know, we were there. Our group was there last Thursday afternoon. It was green.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: The water was green.
>> Steve Jordahl: But had he resurfaced it at that point? He probably had.
>> Tim Wildmon: Maybe he had. I think, you know, that part was complete.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I think there was the unexpected. The algae part was new. Like they're have. That's another thing they're having to treat. They're supposed to have to flush it out, but it's supposed to take a couple months.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know. What does it matter?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, he wants it to look nice for, in blue for the, American flag.
>> Tim Wildmon: Personally, I think the reflecting pool looks nice. Whatever color the water is. It's just a really nice.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They can't. They can't shock it like a pool with chlorine or something, or is that.
>> Wesley Wildmon: They can't cause it.
Steve: Leftists are cheering on algae, Yeah. They are. Um, yeah, I think that they are
They can, but the size of it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: I think they can afford the chlorine. Sure. yeah, I think that they are. They are. Take. There's workers there that are trying. That are getting the chlorine, the algae out. But my point being that the left. They want to see.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're tds. That's sad. Yeah, no, that's what I've said.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I mean, it's. Yes, I could use other words, but it's sad to be so filled with
>> Tim Wildmon: hate for a person cheering on algae.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Cheering on algae, Yeah. I mean, what's next? They're cheering on Murder Hornets.
>> Steve Jordahl: I mean, if Trump had something to get rid of Murder Hornets, then they would. They would cheer for the murders.
>> Tim Wildmon: Next story, Steve.
Waymo driverless car accidentally enters construction zone in San Francisco
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, so, this happened in San Francisco. a man and his fiance were taking a Waymo, which is one of the driverless taxis that are in San Francisco.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: And, they get in this driverless taxi, Waymo. They're on Highway 101, and they come to a construction zone. And the Waymo driverless car misses all of the construction signs. It misses everything. And it goes right into the construction zone, which attracts a police officer, which doesn't. I don't think it knew it was a Waymo or it was driverless because it started chasing it with a siren on. And, the poor people in the back, the guy's name was Elliot Slade, and his fiance were sitting there yelling, stop, Waymo, stop. But it wouldn't stop. And the police were chasing it down. they finally did stop. It finally got out of the, construction zone. But this is one of. Over what Waymo Says is a dozen similar incidents in which self driving taxis accidentally enter construction zones after failing to recognize the warning signs. so the auto. They've recalled over 3,800 of their robo taxis to try to fix this.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Please tell me we have audio of the guy yelling.
>> Steve Jordahl: The guy was yelling, but he was using words we can't use.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, first, first, let me just say these, driverless taxis are way more dangerous than just being in a regular taxicab in a big city.
>> Tim Wildmon: That was good and bad at the same time. Wa was.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That was way more, way more dangerous.
>> Steve Jordahl: Would you ever take a driverless taxi?
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I might. In, in a big city. I'm saying I might. I'm speaking bravely. I'm not. Not if we're going on a highway interstate. I'm not. I'm not going at 70, 65, 70 miles an hour.
>> Tim Wildmon: The thing that it's going the wrong direction, you know, I suppose you can give it directions.
>> Steve Jordahl: Way more. Stop here.
>> Tim Wildmon: Way more.
>> Steve Jordahl: Pull over. but it was ignoring those directions.
>> Tim Wildmon: But then this case, the Waymo, you know, I think this is Waymo unhinged because this Waymo, just said it had enough. It had a breaking point and it started taking off down a construction zone. Now that's, that's just outright dangerous. You know what I'm saying? And the cops are behind the. Well, they're behind the Waymo chasing it.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: How do you get a Waymo to
>> Ed Vitagliano: pull over and then you walk up.
>> Tim Wildmon: If the police officer catches the Waymo.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. And makes it pull over.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, how do you make it pull over?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know if.
>> Wesley Wildmon: To communicate to it pull over.
>> Tim Wildmon: Do the pitman hand signs.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I mean, and then a cop walks up that window, rolls down, there's nobody there.
>> Tim Wildmon: There's nobody there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And then there's two people in the back seat and they're.
>> Tim Wildmon: And they're terrified.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, the cops going, oh, I see what happened.
>> Steve Jordahl: You jumped in the back seat.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I was not driving, officer, to answer your question.
>> Tim Wildmon: Me personally, I don't know why people say me personally. I could just say personally because me means.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Me, I'm not getting in a
>> Ed Vitagliano: van or a car that's driverless even just around town. No, from your hotel to the stadium.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm not judging other people.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: If you want to put your life in the hands of a robot, but in visible person, you go ahead. But I know I just, I do use, you know, the lift and the taxi service, but they. That's a human being. But I. I don't know. Maybe I'm overreacting here, but I. I just don't hear stories like this.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. And you go, well, this guy took an Uber. Uber home that night.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He did, actually.
>> Steve Jordahl: He did take an Uber home. Wesley, I hadn't heard from you. Would you get in a driverless car?
>> Wesley Wildmon: My first reaction is absolutely not. But then part of me is like, I don't know, maybe there may be a situation, a circumstance.
>> Tim Wildmon: You can't live your life in fear.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's what it is.
>> Steve Jordahl: You know, apparently, you should.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's gonna have a baby. She's in labor. You need to get to the hospital right now.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, we're not too far away from. From drone pickups.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. So I saw the people.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, we'll be at your house. Yeah, can be at your house with. Have a drone pickup in 20 minutes,
>> Ed Vitagliano: maybe in Wesley's and Brent's time.
Police use mini drones to disarmed man sleeping on couch with knife
>> Tim Wildmon: They did it on the Jetsons.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They did.
>> Tim Wildmon: Have you not seen this?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I have, yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: I saw a video.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Lie about that.
>> Steve Jordahl: speaking of drones, I saw a video on Fox this morning. The police were using a, little. One of these little mini drones with a magnet attached to it to go in. They went into the house. The guy was armed, but he was sleeping on the couch. He had a knife in his hand. And they went and they disarmed him by getting the knife with a magnet and flying it away. So they didn't have the knife when they went and opened the door for him to arrest him.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Don't those things make a racket?
>> Steve Jordahl: I would. Drones, they probably have ways that they can make it, quiet.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: If you're law enforcement, this.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This world is changing. This bizarro world.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's a changing.
>> Wesley Wildmon: They're creating these single pilot plane drone type vehicles. Like the Jetsons.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And they're trying to get those. That's the next thing.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. All right, his dog. What was Astro.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Was it after.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, Astro.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Ah. Anyway. All right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Show. That was a good show.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's a documentary.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's a document. It's.
>> Steve Jordahl: It appears that way now, does Astra.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Was it Astro was his boss? That'd be a good trivia question. On Friday. His dog Astro. doesn't sound right, though.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, that's right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm looking at it, dog. I bet we could get arguing with the computer here.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, you're looking it up on AI.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, next story.
A California ban on Glocks is taking effect starting July 1st
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, well, the most popular handgun In California is a Glock.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, it is.
>> Steve Jordahl: And criminals. But there is among criminals among everybody but criminals included. There is a way apparently with some aftermarket improvements or modifications, to turn these in, to change the rate of fire of these pistols, to what people are calling machine gun. Now it's not a machine gun, but it fires way more rapidly than California wants. So instead of going after the people who are making the aftermarket modification gear, they are banning the Glock. A ban on Glocks is taking effect starting July 1st. The justification is that the pistols can supposedly be modified easily with illegal aftermarket conversion devices that fundamentally alter their rate of fire. The state, according to the NewSong York Post, the state has decided to restrict future retail sales, retail access to the Glock. It's the legislative, instead of punishing, thereby punishing law abiding citizens for the actions of criminals, it's the legislative equivalent of banning Honda Civics because someone used it as a giveaway car.
>> Wesley Wildmon: also too, it's already illegal in all 50 states to alter any firearm to become an automatic weapon. Yeah, that's already illegal even in California.
>> Steve Jordahl: So the experts here who are second amendment experts are saying that this is kind of a test case. They're seeing if they can. If this takes in California survives court challenges, it might be something that gun restriction advocates will try to implement nationwide.
>> Wesley Wildmon: They can start with California, NewSong York, that's an easy one.
California bans new Glock handguns after July 1; you still have to modify
>> Steve Jordahl: You.
>> Tim Wildmon: So you're telling me that California, the
>> Wesley Wildmon: state passed a law July 1, it comes in effect.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. That bans the Glock.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, particular kind of a particular model of the.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay, the new one. Well, so it's a new, it's a
>> Steve Jordahl: new firearms dealers across the state will no longer be permitted to sell new Glock handguns or similar models. so, maybe that this particular modification works on every Glock.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay, yes, but you have to, you still have to modify it. It doesn't come out of the box as an automatic weapon. And the point that I just made at the beginning is it's already illegal to modify them. But that's why, that's why they're trying to find a loophole here to ban a gun. Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The most popular handgun in the country.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Glock would be the number one handgun in the U.S. right. So people are probably preferred by California. This means they're going to be outlawed.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: As of July 1st, you, if you
>> Steve Jordahl: already own one, you can keep it.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So that's the thing. That's another thing.
>> Steve Jordahl: Grandfathered in.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yep. Yes. So, so yeah. So now, now you get gun owner, of America and other places saying go buy this gun, as many of them as you can because it's outlawed after July 1st.
>> Tim Wildmon: But your grandfather.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes, so, so apparently it's not that harmful.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Because then it would have to be a gun buyback or a gun, turn your gun in or you know, but
>> Ed Vitagliano: then you own, then you own a gun that is under a cloud of suspicion.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, sure.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because if you do, if you do own one, miraculously in California and the cop says, what have you got? Well, I have a Glock. Oh yeah, Well, I bought it before it became illegal. Now you got to produce papers. I want to see your papers.
>> Steve Jordahl: The law also will, require firearms dealers to complete comprehensive state approved training designed to help them identify customers who might pose a danger to themselves or others. So gun dealers have to take training so that they can say, you don't look like you need a gun.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This is the second Amendment. Death by a thousand cuts.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, that's right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This legislation, this legislation, this legislation can become so onerous that people just say it's just not worth the hassle.
>> Tim Wildmon: Let me guys ask you this, and this has been talked about and discussed a thousand times, but I'll bring it up one more time because you know, in trying to have discussions on this, the second amendment of the Constitution, which is pretty high on the list for the founding fathers, if it's right after freedom of religion and freedom of speech.
>> Tim Wildmon: Why we're fighting for what we're fighting for. And that is for people who have the right to, to keep him barreling, to keep, keep arms. And they're based on.
Brent Cree: What makes you think criminals will obey gun laws
Okay, so here's my question. When you ban by legislation, by law, firearms of any kind. All right. Which I understand, you don't have to explain that.
>> Wesley Wildmon: We get that.
>> Tim Wildmon: But what I'm. Here's what I'm asking is what makes you think that criminals are bad guys are going to obey gun laws? They don't think they're already gonna. Don't they read the sign that robbery of this bank is against the law. First, you know, how do they help me, help me understand how.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's not the point.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The point of the law is to make owning guns illegal is to undermine the second.
>> Tim Wildmon: They say it isn't. Well, a lot of, well some of them would say it is, but I
>> Ed Vitagliano: mean they, they think only the police should have guns. And so they may, they want to think that.
>> Wesley Wildmon: the NewSong York mayor thinks that the police should not, they should not have guns. They should have.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, I'm just saying. Yeah, I'm just saying in general they, they want the police to be in charge of law enforcement and for you to call the police.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is the defund police people.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This is the. Well no, this is the anti gun people.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And so they don't care about the criminals. They care about taking guns away from ordinary.
>> Tim Wildmon: Why would you have that approach? What even makes sense about that?
>> Steve Jordahl: You can't, you can't take over a country if you're going to oppress your people. If they're armed, they're going to fight back. You got to take their guns and then you can take their freedom.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so, but are you telling me the average lefty out there who like I was reading the other day, the mayor of Chicago, what's his name? Johnson or Brandon Johnson. Okay, he was talking about, I think it was this case, may have been another, but he was talking about the deaths in the city of Chicago over the weekend. And we all know that makes national attention because it's usually 20 or 30 or something like that. And they always say caused by gun violence.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And I guess if you believe that guns act on their own guns, you know, on Friday night the guns get out of the shelf, get off the shelf in Chicago and go looking for victims. I guess if you believe that then yes, you would want to get rid of those guns.
>> Steve Jordahl: You know, it's interesting in England they're having a spate of crimes using knives because nobody over there had guns. M. They are, they were talking about knife control, literally talking about life control.
>> Tim Wildmon: Bad guys will obey that.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: the anti gun people generally think that the existence of guns in this country, you have all these companies produce guns for the citizens because of the second amendment is the reason why criminals have guns. That is their idea that if you can stop people from buying guns and owning guns, even law abiding citizens, these gun companies will go out of business and the criminals won't have any guns to steal and therefore you'll have a decrease in gun violence.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Now the group of people that you're talking about, I think you're trying to get to the bottom of that. There are, there's a large group of left leaning activists that do have an un, a, uncalculated or unofficial or not complete approach to empathy. They would see a school shooting and say to themselves if we didn't have we. If we would take the guns up, that would have not have happened.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: But, the FBI has reported that over there's around 45,000 deaths annually in the United States, which also includes suicide by a firearm.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And there's around an FBI also reported that around 500,000 people are saved each year because of the firearms.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because of the second Amendment.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Part of the Second Amendment.
>> Ed Vitagliano: By the way. I know we're run. We're almost out of time. It's his boy Elroy in the Jetsons theme song, not his dog Astro.
>> Tim Wildmon: Elroy was his son.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Elroy was his.
>> Tim Wildmon: Astro was the dog that was the
>> Steve Jordahl: most important m. They had a second
>> Wesley Wildmon: amendment in the Jetsons. Remember the laser gun?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we're out of time. And Steve, thank you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: My pleasure.
>> Tim Wildmon: Thanks to Brent, Craig Creeley. all right. And I don't have time. Everybody else who helped with the show, we'll see you tomorrow.
