Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host Ed Vitagliano
>> Steve Jordahl: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Ed Vitagliano.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues. Ed Vitagliano sitting in for Tim Wildmon today. I'm joined by Fred Jackson and Wesley Wildmon. And now we are joined by Steve Paisley Jordahl. He is living up to his name.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, I got the Paisley on today.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. How are you doing, Ed?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I'm doing fine, thank you for asking, Steve.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Somebody checked on Ed because your.
>> Steve Jordahl: Your cough drops, which are usually ordered in precise lines or just a jumble down there. I'm not.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You haven't. Hey, you hadn't been paying attention over the last several months. I've just given up because I'm surrounded by people. I would come in from a break and they'd be. They'd be scattered anyways.
>> Steve Jordahl: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. And I. I did. I have them, four on the bottom, four above it in a line, and then two above it for my ten that I bring. Every show.
>> Steve Jordahl: OCD much?
>> Ed Vitagliano: just a little bit.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So we've now completed egg. Segment. Segment of. I've given up.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And so he's giving up on that. Tomorrow we'll find out what else you've given up on.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. Yeah. You know, at some point, you just, you're swimming upstream and you just say, you know what? I'm all tuckered out.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So all. All these guys, Good grief. Brent Creely, our producer, I come in and he hides my Diet Coke. I never know where it's going to be. Yeah, I don't know.
>> Fred Jackson: Be on the lookout, Ed.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Be on the lookout.
>> Fred Jackson: There could be sabotage of that Diet Coke.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, let me just. Let me just. Let me just let you all know that that is a bridge you ought.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Not cross too far.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, that's too far. okay, Steve. Hey, as I call you, Stevo.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
Are reports of directed energy weapon attacks inside the U.S. credible
>> Ed Vitagliano: What do we got?
>> Steve Jordahl: You guys remember, a couple years, that, there was some suspicious. Something happening to our personnel in Cuba? they were coming home with some.
>> Fred Jackson: Brain issues, headaches and stuff.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Some with some damage.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, well, Kathryn Herridge, who's a very respected reporter, she used to be at Fox, then she went over to cbs, and now she's kind of independent with these new class of independent journalists. This is what she is reporting. Top US Neuroscientist and military advisor. His name is, James Giordano. He is the director of the center for Disruptive Technology and Future Warfare. That's kind of a cool thing. he confirms that there are reports of Credible directed energy weapons. Due weapons attacks. They've happened on U.S. soil and targeted U.S. personnel abroad. and I want to let you hear. This is directed energy weapons. This is microwaves, basically, that they can shoot at you. and let's just listen to cut 13. This is, This is James Giordano. Are reports of directed energy weapon attacks inside the U.S. credible? Absolutely. These are weapons of maximum disruption. It allows you to get in fast, hit hard, hit, get out, and then, and only then, will the effects begin to be known. Giordano showed us how brain injuries like Beck's can happen. Hollow spaces in the skull, the mouth, nose, ears and eye sockets can become echo chambers, funneling energy waves into the brain with catastrophic consequences. That's what a directed energy weapon attack does. Yes, ma'am. It fundamentally disrupts the brain network. Yes, ma'am. And can cause brain cell death. Yes, ma'am. It can cause both brain cell death and change in the functional ability of various cells and nodes in the brain to be able to maintain the networks that are so vital to our thought, our emotions, and our behaviors.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, now, I do want to Just. Just to clarify that, not all do weapons are microwave weapons.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Okay, so, this. I have a lot of respect for Catherine Heritage. Herridge. That's how you name. Okay, so, is this report that she's. That she was doing. I don't know if it's a series of reports or what. And this individual that she was. With whom she was speaking, are they suggesting that these weapons were used? This. Okay, so this gets to. This gets to pretty scary ground here.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I got my coffee Listening.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Used by enemies of the US or is, the suggestion that the US Itself is experimentally using its own weaponry on American citizens without their knowledge?
>> Steve Jordahl: She's alleging both, actually.
>> Wesley Wildmon: But, I thought we were going to get Steve's opinion.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, no, I. Yeah, this is. This is her. Her report.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, because.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because this is. Let me just, preface and just say before you get into your answer, that this has been one of those conspiracy theories.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And we all know, we've seen the memes on social media, that a conspiracy. That a conspiracy theory is an idea that, is dismissed, and then six months later, we find out it's real.
>> Steve Jordahl: Okay, well, not all conspiracy theories, do we?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right? But increasingly, the things that people have been saying are true and being dismissed. We're finding out. And this is one of them. This is one of them. Now, I am not. I am not a conspiracy theorist. I am usually Very skeptical. like the ideas about what happened in Hawaii with the fires, that that was a directed energy weapon, causing them. but this freaks me out a little bit.
Steve Martin: The USA is using directed energy weapons on its own people
Okay. So. Well, continue with your explanation.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, let me, Let me reassertion here. I'm reading here, do attacks happened after this gentleman Beck, who's one of the Cuban guys, permanently damaged, permanently brain damaged. discovered operation targeting USA by a hostile country. The attack, three big three. Usa, Russia and China. All have due capabilities. Try to find the. The specific thing here. the. Let me. I'm going to walk back that they're you. The USA is using it on its own people. For right now, I have to. I haven't listened to this. I just found this.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: Before I came in. Well, but let me just say this. The reason this is kind of, this is a kind of a game changer is because like Catherine, was saying, you could fire it at somebody, they don't know they've been hit.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Steve Jordahl: Walk away, go back to Havana or Moscow or wherever. And then, within the next day or so, a couple days, all of a sudden, cascades start to happen in the, in, in the brain.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Steve Jordahl: And. And you're, And it's a way of. I mean, and how do you defend against, like Secret Service can defend against a bullet because they see a guy up there with a gun and you hear a gun crack. Well, I suppose these directed energy weapons have a form so you could look for them, but they can be fired from within a building. You can hide.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Listen, the US has been working on as well as some of these other countries, but I know the US has been working on, kind of urban warfare, but also urban pacification capabilities. So if you have riots that are of a huge scale. There has been a great deal of research into ways to pacify the rioters without firing a shot or using tear gas and that. I'm not sure those are all, directed energy weapons, but. But some of them have to do with sound. Anyway, this is a whole field that a lot of people don't pay a lot of attention to. My tendency would be to think that this is pro. Might be the Russians or the Chinese trying to use to figure out what this capability can get them.
>> Wesley Wildmon: When you say pacify, then what do you mean?
>> Ed Vitagliano: That means the riot is broken up and people run because their eardrums.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: in other words, you don't have to fire a shot.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: or otherwise use kinetic weapons.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That so different than like a loud Horn.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, yes, yes. But, but that's, but that's, that's. It's funny, but when you put your hands over your ears over something like that, like a loud horn, this is times 10 or 12.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. It doesn't need to go through your ears to damage your brain. Anyway, this is what the.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And I don't want to spend the whole half hour on this, so.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Already lost many.
>> Steve Jordahl: Okay, yeah, we can move on. But I just want to say that, as far as your question about us using it, I hadn't heard it specifically, but I am reading from Citizen Free Press. Their headline, US has used directed energy weapons on US Soil targeting Americans including CIA whistleblower. That's their headline from them listening to the whole interview. So stay tuned.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I, I'm. I'm not questioning you, Steve. I'm. This is my skeptic part.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I have to see, you know when people say pictures or didn't happen, I need to see more, more, proof of that, before I say that about the American government, U. S. Government. But I am now, for the first time in my life, a little bit less skeptical.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So, anyway, let's go ahead and move on.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: maybe we'll revisit these kind of things in the future.
Fred Kaplan: Supreme Court hearing on school books raises questions about parental rights
>> Steve Jordahl: I want to go back to just, something that happened during this supreme, court hearing on the school books and the, opt out for the parents. You've heard a couple of the exchanges between justices. I want to play you another one. And, this is Ketanji Brown Jackson, and I want you to hear what she has to say. Cut. 11. I guess I'm struggling to see how.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It burdens a parent's religious exercise if the school teaches something that the parent disagrees with. You have a choice. You don't have to send your kid to that school. You can put them in another situation.
>> Steve Jordahl: And boom, radical Democrats are now school pro school choice.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, all right, I've talked enough. Fred. Ketanji Brown Jackson has been criticized because she basically denied evidence that was, put that the Supreme Court heard earlier and has really, kind of defended the school's policy. I'm not sure who else is going to join her, but it seems clearly she's one of those defending this.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, here's where she is on this. it's very interesting. You know, we joke about is all of a sudden she's school choice, but what is she really saying is parents get a life. That's what she's saying. To these parents. And I think it's very interesting. Just in the last half hour, we played what Justice Gorsuch had to say. He read the books.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: He says you're. And he's challenging the lawyer for the Montgomery School District. you're presenting this to three year olds. You're really doing this. Jackson, on the other hand, is saying, ah, parents, get over it. Move your kids somewhere else.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: She's all in on the idea that parents should not have the right to opt their little three year old, little girl or little boy out of this. What it is is indoctrination.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: Listen, this school is after the hearts and the minds of three and four year olds.
>> Steve Jordahl: And I'll tell you, I'll back that up for you. Because the reason that they are trying to force these kids in without the opt out is because so many parents didn't want their kids being part of it that it was destroying the classroom. So instead of saying, well, okay, here's a curriculum that our par still want, maybe let's just ditch it.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.
>> Steve Jordahl: We are going to push it and we're going to require kids to be there because so many of them don't want to be.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's hard to indoctrinate kids if the parents won't cooperate.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right?
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And that's kind of what's happening. Wesley, what's, What's your take? You're doing the Tim Wildmon stretch right now. So I don't want to, I don't want to lose you.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm doing my part playing. I'm playing the role of dad here.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So that means. Is it this time the show where I become liberal Now I say become liberal. He likes to sometimes play.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, he plays devil's advocate. That's what we.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's why it's his words. He says, I'll play in liberal.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I know.
>> Wesley Wildmon: All right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because he, because he's soften it now and I'm so. He used to call me the liberal.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And then now he's jumped in. He wants to be more liberal than I am.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: When I play devil's advocate.
>> Wesley Wildmon: No, this is not the Tim Wildmon stretch. You're losing me. This is a Tim Wildmon stretch where I'm, I'm thinking through what I'm about to say next that I got. Because this stuff gets me worked up.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I get pretty mad about this. These are the issues when you talk, when you're talking about children where they can't, they can't Speak for themselves. So the adult has to. And this is where I get pretty upset. Okay. But specifically on this issue, I don't understand the whole. This, this would be more of a Supreme Court legal issue, I would think, if they're saying yes to the book or no to the book. The fact that this is a matter of an issue where the parents get to decide whether they are participating. This has nothing to do with math.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: This is not Common Core where they're debating over how we should be doing math.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay. This is not a matter of, science, or anything like that. This is a book that promotes LGBTQ issues that the parents don't want. in fact, the other way around. If there was a book that promoted another. Another issue that other parents weren't interested in, if it's an. Make it an option, I don't understand why the book.
>> Steve Jordahl: Johnny Comes to Christ.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
Supreme Court hearing arguments on whether parents can opt out of gay school
This is, I don't see this. I, don't see why this is this big of an issue for the other team on the issue of opting in or opting out. I think that's. That settles it for me.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, yeah, but here's the thing. As Fred pointed out, this is an issue, or somebody said it. This is an issue of indoctrination.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And so the other side wants to indoctrinate the kids. And so in order to indoctrinate them, they have to start from a very young age. And by the way, this has been. I wrote a series of articles back in the late 90s. This is how far this goes back, where I quoted homosexual activists who said, you know what? And this is, pretty close to the actual quote, you know what? There are plenty of graves still available for all the old people who won't cooperate. That's why we're looking at teaching children to be more accepting.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And because they said they're. We're never going to convince all these old fogies, but when they die off, we'll have a new generation of kids who believe like we do. And that's why these people don't want parents opting out.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Right. And furthermore, this is their only way to indoctrinate children because they don't have children of their own.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So that's good.
>> Wesley Wildmon: They had to use the public schools.
>> Ed Vitagliano: In order to have cats.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Cats, yeah. Yep. And. And who's a fan of cats?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, wait. We just.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We just.
>> Wesley Wildmon: People there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Listen, we love our. We love our listeners and supporters who have cats.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Have Cats.
>> Ed Vitagliano: In fact, I have two, we have two that we're trying to get rid of there. Hey, they are good buddies. they go as a pair. So just contact.
>> Wesley Wildmon: No, hey, in all seriousness, think about that for a second. They have to use entertainment and public schools. Are there. Those are their two primary ways, entertainment and public schools, that the LGBTQ agenda has to force their ideology.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Because they don't. Most of them, most of them don't have families of their own or children.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, they got a fight on their hands. And now it's reached the Supreme Court. I don't know what happens. It seems as if Fred, give you the last word on this and then we'll move on. But it seems as if they may lose this in the Supreme Court based on what majority, of the Supreme Court justices have said. But it is also notoriously difficult to read and get the final verdict by what justices say during kind of this cross examination. So I don't know what happens if SCOTUS rules against these parents. I don't know what, what people do next.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Other than pull their kids out of public school.
>> Fred Jackson: The reports coming out of, the reporters who actually covered this for the day on Monday, I think it was, was two, two and a half hours of arguments. They were, they were saying, it looks like the Supreme Court will rule in favor of the parents.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Especially when. And we played this. Justice Kagan, who is considered on the liberal side of the Supreme Court, we heard her, what she had to say. She said, wait a minute, I read the stuff too. And this is not appropriate for religious reasons or not. She said, and don't forget, this is, an affiliation of sort of, parents who are Christian, who are Jewish and who are Muslims.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's true. In fact, Mahmoud is the plaintiff who's a Muslim guy.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes. So I think based on that, these justices, I think are. Wait a minute now, we don't just have a bunch of right wing Christians coming in here. We've got Muslims, we've got Jewish parents who are all very concerned about this. Now, what your dad did say the other day, what Tim did say the other day was the answer to this is, you got to change that. School board.
>> Wesley Wildmon: M. Yeah, that's it.
>> Fred Jackson: You know that that's the bottom line in this. And the question is, do we have enough parents, enough voters in Montgomery County, Maryland to say we're not going to put up with this school board?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Supporting this kind of thing and in the next election we're going to run a Bunch of people.
>> Fred Jackson: Who don't agree with the current school board. We're going to get these people out of there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yep. Amen.
There's a battle going on for the heart of the Democrat Party
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, well, that kind of rhymes with the next story I have. You guys talk about David Hogg yet?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Nope, we have not.
>> Steve Jordahl: The Democrat Party is. There's a battle going on for the heart of the Democrat Party. so we know the squad is out there squatting and they they want to pull the Democrats far, far to the left. They're all into the dei, they're all over the gay books in schools.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They're all, all defending the gang members who have been deported.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, they're, they just, if there's a left issue, they take it to extremes. That's what they want the Democrat Party to do. One of the, movers and shakers within the Democrat Party is a guy named David Hogg. He first came to national light because he survived a school shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School. And then he went very, very gun control and started doing speeches. And then he was just named or elected or chosen to be the co chair of the dnc. The Democrat National Convention. The Democrat Party. Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: He's as deep as he is tall.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Short fella. And he's got very shallow in his views.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: and so he is saying the Democrat parties basically that are controlling a bunch of 80 and 90 year olds and they gotta go, we need young blood. So what he is saying is he has raised tons of money to primary Democrats in safe Democrat seats with younger, more liberal, progressive.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So this is like the possibility of AOC primarying Chuck Schumer kind of thing.
>> Steve Jordahl: And let's listen. Karl Rove was talking about this on fox cut 12.
>> Speaker E: Well, I think this is Hogg trying to sort of rescue himself because he announced he turned 25 on 12 April and three days later he announced as the Democratic National Committee Vice Chairman that he was going to raise $20 million to defeat older Democratic incumbents in the U.S. house of Representatives. And you know, it's sort of unusual. James Carville, the raging Cajun, immediately said it was the most insane thing he ever heard. A Democratic Party official who says, my first responsibility is to defeat Democrats. I mean, really, really strange. And the Democrats have really shook up over this. Mr. Hogg's an interesting character. He actually has a super PAC called Leaders We Deserve. Last year, last cycle he raised $11.9 million for that PAC. He spent $10.7 million of it, but only 266,000, or 2.48%, was spent on campaigns or transfers to other federal committees. so most of that money was spent on, you know, overhead.
>> Steve Jordahl: He's hearing from the leadership of the Democratic Party. You got to stop this, or we'll kick you out.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Should we support Hawk here?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I think we can all agree that there is a hog at the heart of the Democratic Party. listen, this is interesting, that last part. Karl Rove said so. The vast majority of that money he raised was spent on overhead rather than on campaigns. It's interesting because I saw an X over the weekend, or maybe it was last week sometime. David Hogg was saying things that are going to be coming out about me. You don't need to be listening to it, because they're coming after me. That may be very well. What he was talking about is people asking questions about how his. The money that he raised was spent and if it's on overhead, that could be anything from him flying first class, cross country to buying homes. Buying homes like blm. So, that. That's very interesting coming from Karl Rove, but I think we can all agree the Democratic Party is in, at least as we have known it. Fred. Yeah, it's in shambles. But we cannot be sure what it's going to look like in 2026 and certainly not 2028. What's it going to look like, and what is it going to stand for?
>> Fred Jackson: Well, the hog story, is just part of something larger that's going on. You've got AOC out there campaigning, and, what the Democratic Party has got to do, and they got to do it very, very quickly, they've got to put this radical left side to rest.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: Because if that is what is presented to the American people in the midterms next year, they know the old experts in the party like Carville. Yeah. They're going to lose big time.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yep. And it could. And it could kill the Democratic Party brand.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: For a generation.
>> Steve Jordahl: the problem for this question, should we put money into the pack?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, I see. Send money.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. Go Hogs. Go Hogs. Go Hogs.
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>> Ed Vitagliano: All right. Anyway, folks, we talked about a lot of interesting stuff today. That's what we do. and hope you will join us tomorrow for Trivia Friday. But there is more great programming directly ahead on American Family Radio. Keep listening.
