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>> Tim Wildmon: Welcome to today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day.
>> Frank Turek: Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of.
>> Tim Wildmon: The American Family Association. Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR on this Tuesday, December 9, 2025. And, we have a studio, panel here gathered and one gentleman who's always with us most Tuesdays and Thursdays is actually in the studio. Good morning, Ray Pritchard.
>> Tim Wildmon: Good morning, Tim. How you doing today?
>> Tim Wildmon: Welcome to Tupelo.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, listen, you always want to ask me about Florida. Three days ago Saturday, it was 81 degrees. I was in a T shirt and shorts, tooling around the property in my golf cart. Right. Like all the folks do come here to Tupelo.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, it's frigid. Well, where you live now? We're, we're, quote, way up north.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is way over, in the deep South.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.
>> Frank Turek: Yankee.
>> Chris Woodward: when he saw me today.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. Chris Woodward.
>> Tim Wildmon: Good morning, Chris.
>> Chris Woodward: I'm sorry, yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Fred Jackson.
>> Fred Jackson: Good to be with you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. So let me just check here, like old people do. I'm 62 and a half. You start checking the weather all the time. So it's 38 here in Tupelo. I've got, let's see, let's see. Kansas City, where your, your, your, your summertime home.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: is, let's see, what is that? Right now, Kansas City's 43. It's warmer in Casey than to flow.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is wrong. Something has gone upside down with the weather.
>> Tim Wildmon: Now if we get in our car and go down to sunny the sunny state of Florida. Let's see what we got in, Hudson, Florida. Right now. Let's see, Ray's. So Ray left 60. It's 60 right now. But you, left 60 going up to 66. I think so. Yeah. It's, but you lived all over the country that's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And 17 years in Chicago, so really, you know. Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's all relative. Right?
>> Tim Wildmon: It's all relative. That's right. It's good to be here, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Well, thanks for coming and being with us. We have our board meeting today for our ministry, and so Ray's in town for that. He's in studio, and we're delighted to have him with. With us. Dr. Frank Turek will come be, with us at, 10:30 Central Time. So we look forward to visiting with Frank. He's the host of I Don't have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist. We just heard weekends, here on American Family Radio. Dr. Frank Turek.
Ray: We are in the middle of our Advent series from John
So, Ray, tell everybody about the, offer you have for Keep Believing Ministries, which is your ministry.
>> Tim Wildmon: We are right in the middle of our Advent series called Behold the Lamb Advent from the Gospel of John. And every day we are sampling a little bit about what John tells us about who Jesus is and why he came. We're just working our way up toward Christmas Day. And I know a lot of our AFR listeners have joined us. If you would like to download the E book, it's all, you could order the print thing from Amazon, but why do that? Just go. Just go to Keep believing dot com. And right there on the front page, it says, download your free copy of Behold the Lamb. You can get it PDF or ePub or Moby, which is really for Kindle. Just go to Keep believing dot com. Love to have our AFR listeners join us as we journey with John toward the birth of our Lord.
>> Tim Wildmon: Still time to catch up. It's December 9th, so. Right.
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>> Tim Wildmon: And right on the front page, the. Right there.
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Nate: When did the wise men come? Fred: Sometime later
>> Tim Wildmon: Nate, let me ask you a question, and I got a thousand questions, about Christmas. It's such a fascinating story. but, let me ask you this question about relative to the, Wise men. Okay? And we've talked about this before. I maybe ask this question every year, but I'm just. So they. The three wise men, Right. Oftentimes when we see the nativity scene, we see the, shepherds and the wise men together.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: worshiping Jesus. Right?
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And I Think, I'm not saying that people are necessarily ignorant, but a lot of people, a lot of churches may do that just to. It's a beautiful, It's a beautiful thing. They don't mean anything radical about their.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because the shepherds did come. The magi did come.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. They all came.
>> Tim Wildmon: But we know that the shepherds came the night of the birth.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's exactly right.
>> Tim Wildmon: So when did the wise men come?
>> Tim Wildmon: Sometime later.
>> Tim Wildmon: The Magi.
>> Tim Wildmon: Sometime later. Fred, how long, how long a time do you want to say?
>> Fred Jackson: I've heard a couple of years.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: and because at that point, obviously the family, Mary, Joseph and Jesus weren't in the manger anymore.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. They were in a house.
>> Fred Jackson: They were in a house.
>> Tim Wildmon: But they hadn't gone to Egypt yet either.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, no, no, no, not yet.
>> Tim Wildmon: So sometime, sometime between the birth and the time they leave to flee to go to Egypt. Because Herod's threat.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. And remember, Herod said, kill all the baby boys of, Bethlehem under the age of two.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: So he had figured out. He had figured out something. So it's sometime later. Could it have been six months later or a year later? Sometime 6, 6 12, 18 months later. They had, they were out of the, they were out of the stable, they were into a home. And the wise men come from Persia, modern day Iran. And though you can't really prove what I'm going to say, I think there's good evidence that this goes all the way back to Daniel. Chapter five.
>> Fred Jackson: Amen.
>> Tim Wildmon: To Daniel, who was named as the head over all the astrologers and all the magicians. And the word is magi.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ah.
>> Tim Wildmon: In the Greek version of Daniel, it's magi. I think Daniel explained it to those Persian, the Persian leaders back 500 years earlier. And Tim, I think they passed it down from one generation to another to another to another. So that when they saw the star, in the sky, they said, yeah, this is what Daniel was talking about. And it was the Lord who arranged Daniel put him there. It was the Lord to put the star in the sky. And it was the Lord who led them all the way. It was a dangerous, difficult journey.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: To come from Persia, I mean today.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, talking about a thousand miles.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. And you're talking the camels and the caravan and in many, many weeks to make many months probably to make a journey like that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah. Because, that would be modern day Iran, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: That's exactly right. Or in that area where the shepherds and the wise men, together at the same time.
>> Fred Jackson: All.
>> Tim Wildmon: Almost certainly the answer is no. Is it okay to do that in a Christmas play? Yes, it is. Yes. It's because they were all there, just not at the same time.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. Yes. Yes.
Fred Miller: We had live camels in our Christmas pageant once
Well, I've mentioned this before and then we'll move on to our interview here. But the, One of the most, we had the Christmas page of the church I attended, and my family went to. We had a pageant for, I don't know, 10 years or so, maybe longer. And there's a big deal in the Tupelo area. Okay. So we would have. We have 3,000 people come through on a week on a. On a three to three or four day, four or five day period. Okay. Roughly. Something like that. But the scene I'll never forget was not very spiritual. Okay. And that is the live camel.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, no. Oh, no.
>> Tim Wildmon: Have you heard this before? If I tell you this?
>> Tim Wildmon: No.
>> Tim Wildmon: So we had live camels. I'm talking about. So, camels. This guy brought camels in from, I don't know where, Texas or somewhere and used them for the pageant. So live animals and the camel. This one particular camel comes walking down the middle of the aisle.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, no.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, with the, with the, magi or whatever like that. So we got these. dressed out ladies, elderly ladies, bless their hearts. They come for the pageant.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, no.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know if they come from the senior home or whatever.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, no.
>> Tim Wildmon: But they were there and they were in their Sunday best. And this camel. Don't know where I'm going with this. Yeah, this camel worried about camels. Camels, camels, their mouth are chewing like cows all the time. You know what I'm saying? And that camel, that camel whipped his head around when he turned back toward the audience. And I don't mean to gross people out, but here comes the. Here comes the. What do you call it? Spit? yeah, the stuff that's coming out of a camel's mouth.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, no.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah. It just wipes out the first two rows. These, these, these ladies.
>> Tim Wildmon: There goes the pad.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, right there. And it's just like. Do you laugh at this?
>> Tim Wildmon: What do you do?
>> Tim Wildmon: What's the right emotion?
>> Chris Woodward: The Bible says there is a time to laugh.
>> Tim Wildmon: It was hilarious. You laugh if it didn't happen to you.
>> Chris Woodward: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: The ladies were not these little old ladies who had come from the, you know, in their van from the Pleasant Hill, senior Retirement home. Oh, no, they weren't happy, Fred. They weren't. The Christmas spirit after this particular incident.
>> Chris Woodward: I looked it up here, and according to the Internet, they can spit, up to about 120ft. So if you're going to a Christmas well, don't sit up front or even in the back.
>> Tim Wildmon: This hit, this hit. Blue hair after 20ft. Okay. I'm telling you. Huh? Am I right? Just boom, right there.
>> Fred Jackson: So what did they do the next year?
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, no. I don't know how they kept that from every, That. That was like a, a freak thing. I don't think camels normally just walk around Uber. Maybe the lights hit the camel and the. In the eyes the right way. And he just said, you know what? I'm gonna show my appreciation to all these people. So anyway, and man, that's better than other things happening by camels in the middle of a show.
>> Fred Jackson: I was just gonna say. Yeah, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't remember that happening.
>> Fred Jackson: There's a risk with live animals.
>> Chris Woodward: There's a reason you put the horses at the end of the Christmas. Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, that's, you know, that's one of those things you'll never forget.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, I can understand.
>> Tim Wildmon: We just want to be a blessing, folks. That's why we're here.
An angel in a Christmas pageant fell through the ceiling, fortunately nobody was hurt
>> Chris Woodward: What'd y' all talk about today? Oh, camel's been on.
>> Tim Wildmon: There is risk with live animals inside a building. Right?
>> Fred Jackson: Okay. Yep.
>> Tim Wildmon: all right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. You know, maybe one day we just need to open up the phone line to let people tell their.
>> Tim Wildmon: Their story.
>> Tim Wildmon: Pageant stories, because we all. We all got.
>> Tim Wildmon: We all got them. That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: who was it that maybe is. It was Dennis, Swanberg. Everybody know who. Dennis Swanberg. He tells Dennis Wamberg's Hilarious. Anyway, but he tells this story about a church he was at where the. Something about the angel was supposed to come down, you know, from. From above. And it fell through the ceiling. Oh, yeah. Oh, the angel fell through the ceiling. Fortunately, nobody was hurt seriously. But it was a. It was a moment.
>> Tim Wildmon: But I hate it when that happened.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. That wasn't in the script. No.
>> Tim Wildmon: all right. you're listening to today's issues on afr. Tim, Fred Ray raising studio with us and Chris, and Dr. Frank Turek joins us now. Frank is, with the, has the program I Don't have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist. Heard weekends on American Family radio at 9 o' clock Central Time on Saturdays and then again on Sunday afternoons at 4 o' clock Central Time.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Frank.
>> Tim Wildmon: How you doing, brother?
>> Frank Turek: That's why I never bring camels to church.
>> Chris Woodward: He doesn't have enough faith to bring a camel.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. Have you ever seen anything like that in a Christmas pageant or an Easter pageant or something like that?
>> Frank Turek: I haven't seen it. I've heard about it and Yeah, can be embarrassing, but hey, they know if it's a live display, these things happen.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know.
>> Frank Turek: These things are not potty trained.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh man. All right then.
President Edward Snowden attended Kennedy Center Awards this weekend
So what have you been, what have you been doing since last week we talked to you?
>> Frank Turek: Well, I attended, and spoke, at the TP USA donor event down in Mar A Lago this weekend. Erica invited me to come down and pray and do a little tribute to Charlie. So that was good. There's. It was good.
>> Tim Wildmon: What is that? What is. What is? Was Trump there?
>> Frank Turek: No, he was in D.C. we wouldn't allow him to come home. Now. He had an event in D.C. he was giving awards to like Sylvester Stallone this weekend.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, he's.
>> Tim Wildmon: The Kennedy Kennedy Center Awards.
>> Frank Turek: What's that?
>> Tim Wildmon: It was the Kennedy Center Awards, annual. Where they give awards, to entertainers, basically lifelong lifetime achievement awards. And Sylvester Stallone. You're right, was one of them, with Kiss. Edward. Like that and Kiss. And then, Anyway, a couple of others, Oh, George Strait, the country. Nice, nice country singer. I think Kiss and George Strait did a duet. So.
>> Chris Woodward: Rainy days and Mondays.
>> Tim Wildmon: That was pretty interesting to see.
>> Frank Turek: Are they both wearing makeup?
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm absolutely, absolutely lying through my teeth. The idea of Kiss and George Strait doing a. Now that's funny right there. but anyway, that's why, President. But Mar A Lago. I'm just curious. You were there. that is a, that's the home where President Trump lives when he's, you know, not in D.C. but it's a. Is it like a community? It's not a house per se. Is it Mar a Lago?
>> Frank Turek: It's, It's a club that people can be a part of. and I didn't see the whole place, but they have this amazing ballroom which is where a lot of people hold events. And that's where the TPUSA event was. I got you Saturday and Sunday night. It may have been the same room. I'd have to go back and check. But it may have been the same room that Trump gave his election night.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, it was. I think so.
>> Frank Turek: Speech. Is that the room he was in?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, it's A room that he, that he's had a lot of pictures taken there over the years, you know, with the, the ballroom as it were, where they. So I just want to sound like a country club. Yes, is what it is. I got you.
>> Frank Turek: And I mean it's spectacular grounds and the ballroom is spectacular. That ballroom, the one that you, Trump, is building at the White House. I don't know how big it is.
>> Tim Wildmon: But that ball, huge.
>> Frank Turek: Can easily hold 7, 800 people.
>> Tim Wildmon: Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
>> Frank Turek: Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Never seen anything like it.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.
The Bible is a non Christian source, it's a Jewish source
All right, so, let's see. Our topic for you today is what to say when people ask for non Christian sources about Jesus. Talk about that.
>> Frank Turek: Well, here's the shortest answer. The Bible is a non Christian source. All the NewSong Testament documents were written by Jews. They weren't written by, I mean they became Christians. But the question is, why would these Jews become Christians? Why would they invent a resurrected, Jesus who claimed to be God and rose from the dead if it didn't happen? Did they invent this so they could get themselves kicked out of the synagogue and then beaten, tortured and killed? I mean the last time I checked, that was not a list of perks. All right, so when people say, well, I can't believe it because it's a Christian source, it's not a Christian source, it's a Jewish source. Source is the NewSong Testament documents have between eight and nine writers. We just don't know who wrote Hebrews. So that's our big question mark. But they're all Jew. Even scholars are admitting now it looks like Luke was a Jew. They're all Jews. And even if Luke was a Gentile, the other seven or eight writers are all Jews. Why are they inventing this? They're not. It really happened. Now there are non biblical sources outside the Bible. There's like 10 of them within 150 years of Jesus life, you know.
>> Tim Wildmon: Like what?
>> Frank Turek: Well, Josephus, Jewish historian, Tacitus, Suetonius, Thallus, Phlegon. These are all household names.
>> Fred Jackson: I know.
>> Frank Turek: but these are either Roman historians or people, that were alive and prominent at the time. Within 150 years of Jesus life. They all mentioned Jesus, or his followers.
>> Tim Wildmon: Just to be clear. So people understand you're talking about people, who were historians, within. You said 150 years of the time of Jesus who wrote about him.
>> Frank Turek: Sure, they may have mentioned things about him. Even the Jewish Talmud says that he was, hung on the eve of the Jewish Passover for practicing sorcery.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so that proves that Jesus Christ, did exist and really lived. And it's not. I know, I mean, I've never doubted that. But I mean a lot of people would say, how do you know he really. You know, if all your, if all you're basing this on is, the Bible to confirm the Bible, then give me something outside the Bible. And you're saying they do exist, and you've listed the name of some historians who reference the life of Jesus.
>> Frank Turek: Yeah, they do exist. But when people say that you can't use the Bible, what they're misunderstanding is the Bible is a collection of independent sources that were compiled and put under one binding later. so they are, I mean, you can leave for the sake of argument at this point, when you're talking to a skeptic or a non Christian, you could leave the. what's the word I'm looking for? The doctrine of inspiration. Outside of the discussion, we're not treating these as if they're inspired Word of God documents at this point. We're just looking at them as historical texts. they were later collected and put under one binding, but they're written by different people, at different times in the first century from different places. And they show us what first of all Jesus said and did. Those are the gospels. Then how the church, how these new believers spread their beliefs around the ancient world. That's the book of Acts. And sort of congruent with that are the letters, the epistles, which is basically how to live the Christian life. as Paul and others are writing to churches and individuals in that say 30 year period between say 33 AD and about 62 AD or all the way up to say maybe the late 60s A.D. those are the letters, those are the epistles from Romans on. And then of course you have the consummation of all things. It's the book of Revelation. These are all documents written by either eyewitnesses or people that knew eyewitnesses. And you don't have to look at them as some sort of religious text. and in fact, I like to say this. When you look at the NewSong Testament documents and you realize that no one had any motivation to invent a resurrection. They didn't get the big three things that people will lie to get. Like they'll lie to get sex, money and power, right? Those are the big three temptations. People will lie, people will cheat, people will steal to get sex, money and power. But they're not going to lie, cheat and steal to get beaten, tortured and killed. All right, so I like to say this, that the NewSong Testament writers did not create the resurrection. The resurrection created the NewSong Testament writers. You wouldn't have these documents written by Jews in the first century claiming a man claimed to be God and rose from the dead. Unless a man really did claim to be God and really did rise from the dead. Because the Jews got. Had everything to lose by saying that was true, not everything to gain. They didn't get anything m. They didn't. They didn't.
>> Tim Wildmon: They.
>> Frank Turek: They got everything negative temporally from saying Jesus had resurrected from the dead. They got kicked out of the synagogue and then beaten, tortured and killed. They didn't get sex, they didn't get money. They didn't get power. So you can look at these documents from that perspective and realize, well, you know, this is not a religious inspired source. We don't have to assume that it turns out to be. But we don't have to assume that going in.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead.
Frank Turek: Josephus was almost a contemporary of Jesus
>> Tim Wildmon: Frank, let me ask you about Josephus because you mentioned him earlier, famous Jewish historian. Just give us a couple of sentences of it. Who was Josephus and how close was he to the events of the life of Christ? And in essence, what did he have to say that helps us think about who Jesus really was?
>> Frank Turek: Yeah, Jesus is referenced by Josephus in two places. He has a couple of paragraphs or a long paragraph on Jesus in one of his works. and then later in the same work. I think they're both antiquities, if I'm not mistaken. He mentions Jesus in relation to his half brother James, who is essentially martyred by the Sanhedrin in 62 AD he's thrown off the Temple Mount, James is. And then he's stoned to death. this is the same guy that wrote the book of James, the half brother of Jesus. but Josephus was a Jewish historian who was born in 37 AD and he took up arms against the Romans, when the Jews tried to rebel against the Romans between 66 AD and 70 AD and in 67 AD instead of committing suicide like his colleagues did when he was surrounded by the Romans, he gave himself up and somehow won favor with the Roman emperor and became an historian, a Jewish man as he became an historian and wrote really, at the behest of Rome. And so he wrote these works in the late first century. so Josephus was almost a contemporary of Jesus. He was born, say four years after Jesus died and rose again but he was a contemporary of somebody like James and may have actually seen the execution of James. For all we know, he may have been in Jerusalem at the time. So he is seen as the premier historian of the first century. that helps us know what happened outside of what the NewSong Testament documents say, in that area in the first century.
>> Tim Wildmon: Are you going to be covering that this weekend?
>> Frank Turek: This topic this weekend we're going to have the great Lee Strobilon, who has a new movie coming out next week about miracles. It's going to be in theaters. So we're going to be talking about miracles, including the miracle of the incarnation and the Resurrection.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so that's Friday morning. Excuse me. Saturday morning, right here on this radio station at 9:00 central time. Dr. Frank Turek, our guest. Right now we have Lee Strobel as his guest on the I Don't have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist radio program. That's Saturday morning, 9:00 Central time, and Sunday afternoon again, we re air the show at 4pm Central Time. All right, Frank, take care. Have a great day, my friend.
>> Frank Turek: Don't tell me what to do.
>> Tim Wildmon: And his friend, that's just a friendly guy, that Frank Turek. We'll be back in a few moments. Stay with us.
>> Don Wildmon: It's my turn. Here is your host for My Turn, Don Wileman.
Many times when faced with trying problems, we feel at the end of our rope
You know, we have problems in life, problems that we need to stand up to. And if you're to stand up to those problems, you need to convince yourself that absolutely nothing in life can defeat you unless you are willing to let it. Many times, when faced with trying problems which life has put in our path, we feel that we are at the end of our rope. I have felt that way many times, and I know you have too. What should a person do when he gets to the end of his rope? Hang on. That's what the rope is there for. A, wit has put into poetry the tale of two frogs that had gotten to the end of their rope. One hung on, the other didn't. Here's the story of their plight. Listen carefully. Two young frogs from inland bogs had spent the night in drinking. As morning broke, and they, ah, awoke while still their eyes were blinking. A farmer's pail came to the swale and caught them quick as winking. Ere they could gather scattered senses or breathe a prayer for past offenses. That Granger grand, that guiltless man, had dumped them in the milkman's can. They quickly find their breath will stop unless they swim upon the top. They Swim for life. They kick and swim until their weary eyes grow dim, their muscles ache, their breath grows short. And gasping speaks one weary sport, say, o dear, I've had enough of life. No more. I'll try it. Sweet milk is not my diet. Tut, tut, my lad, the other cries. A frog's not dead until he dies. Let's keep on kicking. That's my plan. We yet may see outside. This can no use, no use. Faint heart replies, turns up his toes and gently dies. Now the brave frog, undaunted, still kept kicking with a right good will, until, with joy too great to utter, he found he had churned a pound of butter. And climbing up on this hunk of grease, he floated to town with the greatest ease. Now, the moral of the story is, when in your Christian life you find you have grown weary of the toilsome grind, don't get discouraged and go down, but struggle on. No murmur. Utter a few more kicks may bring the butter. If you refuse to be bigger than the problems which life sends your way, those problems will defeat you. But if you can grow bigger than your problems, you will always have them on the run. If someone were to ask me what my Christian faith does for me, I should have to reply that it gives me the strength to stand up to life. I have the strength to face all conditions by the power that Christ gives me. That's what Paul said. That's a favorite verse of mine. Whatever else the Christian faith does, it gives a person power to stand up to life. I have experienced that truth in my own life many times, and I've seen it experienced in the lives of other people who would otherwise have been defeated.
>> Frank Turek: This has been my turn with Don Wildmon, a, production of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Search me, God, and know my heart. Test me and know my anxious thoughts.
>> Frank Turek: See if there's any offensive way in.
>> Tim Wildmon: Me and lead me in the way everlasting. Psalm 139, 23 and 24.
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Four Heisman Trophy finalists have been announced on American Family Radio
>> Tim Wildmon: To more of, today's issues. Hey, welcome back, everybody, to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to afr. I'm Tim with Fred. Ray is here with us. Ray Pritchard is in studio with us and Chris Woodward. We, thank you for listening to American Family Radio. Oh, fellas, before we move back into the, hard news, the, Four finalists for the Heisman Trophy have been announced. So the finalists are Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. He's a strong Christian, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: I. I think so.
>> Don Wildmon: He.
>> Chris Woodward: God in, in his victory speech.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: Sunday or over the week.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well and he. Yeah he.
>> Tim Wildmon: I've heard he's an excellent quarterback. He's really good.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh yeah. Vanderbilt Commodore quarterback Diego Pavia. Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Very good.
>> Tim Wildmon: yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: Best quarterback they've ever had.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's a magician for sure.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And then Notre Dame Fighting Irish running back Jeremiah Love. Maybe he'll get some love in D.C. at the.
>> Chris Woodward: After the attention.
>> Tim Wildmon: Washington, NewSong York City, the playoff.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And then Yeah. And then Ohio State Buckeyes quarterback Julian Sayan. His last name is S A Y N. Just saying. What if his parents had named him Justin? Justin.
>> Tim Wildmon: Justin. Right.
>> Chris Woodward: Just, just.
>> Tim Wildmon: And they would have never known by the year 2025 the expression just saying would be as popular as it is today. But that's his last name. S A Y. I N. So.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who you got of? I got a pick. So I want to hear.
>> Tim Wildmon: if I were to vote, I'd vote for the Indiana quarterback Ben Mendoza. listen, all these guys, they wouldn't be in NewSong York if they weren't all excellent. You could pick any one of them and you'd be hard to argue with it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, right.
>> Tim Wildmon: That the Pavia, that's who I got.
>> Chris Woodward: He lost to two good teams. Yeah, they weren't, they weren't bad loss.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ah, you can vote for him. I don't got a problem if he.
>> Tim Wildmon: Doesn'T come to Vanderbilt. Yeah, you don't hear about that. He doesn't. He single handedly with that coach Kirk Lee turned Vanderbilt around same way with Indiana quarterback. Well that's true.
>> Tim Wildmon: Mendoza, he transferred from the University of California and it made him hard choice. Yeah. Gave Indiana, you know, that's a hard job. Yeah, they're all excellent.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, who are the last two?
>> Tim Wildmon: the running back from Notre Dame, Jeremiah Love.
>> Fred Jackson: Excellent.
>> Tim Wildmon: And Ohio State quarterback Julian Saying. But I don't think either one of those guys are going to win. It's going to be between Mendoza and Pavia.
>> Chris Woodward: I think it'll end up being Mendoza just purely because they're in the playoff. They had this great year. It's not fair. I would say Pavia is probably the most valuable player in football just because of what he did to Vanderbilt.
>> Tim Wildmon: But who would have ever thought maybe the end of the world is near. When you've got quarterbacks for Indiana and Vanderbilt challenging for the Heisman Trophy. That might be in the Book of Revelation.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is a sign right here, friends. Right here.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. That the end is near. all right, so we'll see what happens there with that. those four gentlemen being invited to NewSong York City for the most prestigious award in college. athletics. Yes.
>> Chris Woodward: I think somebody that should have at least been in had been invited. and it's a shame that he was not. And I'm an MSU bulldog. I will be buried in a maroon suit with a cowbell under a tombstone that says Hell State. But somebody that should have at least been invited is the Ole Miss quarterback.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: he didn't play the first two games. Therefore, they're holding. That kid was phenomenal.
The quarterback for Ole Miss, he was in a Division 2 last year
And what he did to the Bulldogs and the Egg bowl is.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, he's. He's a. He's a true, story for a movie.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: The quarterback for Ole Miss, he was in a Division 2 or 3 school last year.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ferris. Ferris State.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Wasn't even. Wasn't even recruited. He grew up in Michigan. Wasn't even recruited.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And now he's, like, leading a team to the playoffs, you know, the NCAA playoffs.
>> Chris Woodward: Best season they've ever had.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: The Ole Miss quarterback. Yeah, he's, You're right. That's a story. He could have been easily invited to, to NewSong York City for the Heisman Trophy.
>> Chris Woodward: Robbed.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we're not talking hockey, so Fred's not very interested over here, evidently.
>> Fred Jackson: No, I'm just picking up the information.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. All right. you're listening to Today's Issues on American Family Radio. What's your next story, Chris?
Some Democrats say President Trump hasn't done enough on lowering prices
>> Chris Woodward: Well, this evening, President Donald Trump is going to be in Pennsylvania to kick off a nationwide tour of stops, talking about his economic policies and how they'll help continue to bring prices down. I say continue to bring prices down. Because if you watch the White House press briefings, like we do in the newsroom, they have long said. Caroline Levitt has said for weeks, months, really, that the president's policies are helping to bring prices down. Eggs are down, gas is down. Several things are down. But some people, including Democrats, are still saying, he hasn't done enough. He's the guy in charge, and he didn't bring down prices like he campaigned he would. But President Trump says, look, the policies, the problems that I'm trying to fix were actually caused by Joe Biden, who, according to Donald Trump, didn't do anything about price problems. Clip 1.
>> Fred Jackson: We inherited a mess.
>> Tim Wildmon: affordability.
>> Fred Jackson: But you can call it affordability or anything you want, but the, Democrats caused the affordability problem, and we're the.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ones that are fixing it.
>> Tim Wildmon: So it's a very simple statement.
>> Fred Jackson: They caused it, we're fixing it.
>> Chris Woodward: I would say that some of the criticism of President Trump is a little too early. He has not been in office yet. some people are saying he spent too much time during the summer focusing on trying to bring an end to the war between Israel and Hamas and Ukraine and Russia. I think the news media is somewhat to blame there because things have been going on behind the scenes. The Energy Department specifically has been doing things to open up and increase more oil and gas. If we bring down the price of gas and it's cheaper today than it was five years ago, if we continue to bring in more oil and gas to bring down the cost of energy, it's going to help bring down prices even further. I think it's premature to criticize him for not doing enough, if you would ask me.
>> Fred Jackson: I think there is, perception driven by the Democrats in the mainstream media that things are a mess out there, economically speaking. So, people say that, you know, Trump. This visit to Pennsylvania this evening is the first act in what is going to go on over the next several months. We're leading into the midterms, and he, plans. His. His boss at the White House. I saw her quoted this morning. I, think he calls her his boss. He, is going to be on the road for the next several months. And don't forget, a lot of the things that were in the big beautiful bill are going to be kicking in next year. No tax on tips, no tax on overtime. All of these things are going to start manifesting themselves. People are going to see the benefits of all of this. He's talked about. people, middle income, lower income income, people getting a check in the mail, based on the tariffs, that sort of thing. So all of that's going to start happening early in the new year.
>> Tim Wildmon: But, you know, go work for the White House, Fred. If Carolyn Levitt, if she retires.
>> Tim Wildmon: That was a good answer, Fred.
>> Tim Wildmon: You just, hit all the Trump high points. Well, I'm not saying you're making it up. I'm just saying that's a good synopsis.
>> Fred Jackson: That is going to be a plan for the election year.
>> Chris Woodward: Can I add one other thing here?
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: I don't often get to share my opinion in news stories, so this is my time, and I take it, okay. Democrats saying he hasn't done anything about Prices. He. He said he was going to do this, and he hasn't. He lied to you. All these other things. These people didn't say diddly squat about price problems under Joe Biden. And they had years to raise a stink about it, and they didn't. Now that somebody is in the White House, they don't like it's a problem. And he, he's the blame.
>> Tim Wildmon: The people around the country understand deadly squat. What that means is that travel the country. If you were to go to Oregon and say diddly squat, would they know what you mean?
>> Tim Wildmon: I'll be in Oregon this weekend. Maybe I'll just maybe. Maybe I'm gonna work that in. Diddly squat.
>> Chris Woodward: I'm fixing to explain it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, That's a good English word.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know what you mean.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Well, I just wonder. You're from our part. I think that's, universally universal, but I'm not.
>> Chris Woodward: Let's see if it's in the dictionary yet.
>> Tim Wildmon: Fred, would you hear in Nova Scotia.
>> Fred Jackson: I've heard that for years.
>> Tim Wildmon: Canada, they didn't use Cadillac's.
>> Chris Woodward: It is in the Merriam Webster dictionary, which means it is a word.
>> Tim Wildmon: Kaboom.
>> Tim Wildmon: What does it mean, Chris?
>> Chris Woodward: the least amount anything at all. Example sentence. My mother never gave my daddy diddy diddly squat for Valentine's Day. That is the example they give in the Miriam Webster dictionary. Somebody's bitter.
>> Tim Wildmon: So diddly squat is a term understood by all Americans and Canadians.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, absolutely.
>> Tim Wildmon: According to Fred. Diddly squat.
>> Fred Jackson: you know, just one more point. The gas prices, you know, I'm like, where I am right now in Tupelo, I can get it for $2.34 regular. That's a whole lot better than it was just a year ago, let alone three or four years ago.
>> Chris Woodward: And odds are it will get cheaper because, gas prices, no matter who's in office, most times, gas prices do tend to get cheaper during the winter months. So we might even be seeing cheaper prices going into, like, MLK Day or going into Valentine's Day.
>> Fred Jackson: And don't forget, the gas prices have been connected to the prices of groceries because, you know, trucks that are used to carry the groceries to the grocery store had to pay a whole lot more for fuel. So we should start seeing a benefit out of that as time goes on.
Both grocery store food and restaurant food prices have been going up
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I have noticed the price of, food. I think we all have. The price of food has been going up. Both grocery store food and restaurant food has been going up, the last five, three or four or five years. It has now, I know that. we used to go, we used to be able to go into the Outback.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right, Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And I'm talking about five or six years ago. You could go into the Outback and you could get the Outback special for like 12.99.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And that would be six ounce steak, salad, baked potato. Baked potato. maybe not iced tea. Iced tea would be different. added up to that. But you know what? I'm sure that's a pretty fair price. You go to a steakhouse like the Outback. Now that's gonna be $25 right there, I just mentioned, huh?
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. You're gonna start there.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know if beef's like going, Beef's like going up crazy. That's what I've heard.
>> Chris Woodward: Oh, yeah. I bought, a four pack of steaks, on Saturday, and I did not get the, I mean. I paid like 65, 70 bucks for a pork.
>> Tim Wildmon: Four, steak for four. You can go out deep for that.
>> Chris Woodward: Pretty much after I bought it, I.
>> Tim Wildmon: Was somebody else cooking clean up for you there.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, yeah. Well, and then I didn't cook them long enough. But anyway, so yeah, wait a minute.
>> Tim Wildmon: You, you, you miscooked, undercooked.
>> Chris Woodward: I, I, man, I'm not, I'm the Swedish chef when it comes to preparing food.
>> Tim Wildmon: As they say, better to undercook than overcook. You can't go backwards on. Very true on that.
President Trump says dumping of rice is hurting American farmers
All right, so anyway, but I'm just saying that's just anecdotal, general observation. I have noticed the price of food, as I say, grocery store, and, maybe not. People are going, well, what about garden food? Well, maybe not. If you grow your own garden, have your own chickens and your cows, and if you quote farm, you know, I guess you could get by cheaper. But even that you hear about, you know, the cost of food for animal school.
>> Fred Jackson: To your point, yesterday, President, Trump had a summit for farmers at the White House, and he had beef producers there. Ah. And there's a young lady that represented rice growers, and one of the things that she said that's hurting rice growers here in the United States is that she mentioned these countries, India, Thailand, Pakistan to a certain extent, are dumping rice in our markets. Trump turned to one of his economic advisors, said, I want you to make a list of the, of the three countries. She just said, we're going to put a tariff, extra tariff on those countries because they're dumping rice in this country. And so, you know, what's, what's happened so much over the last several years, we're importing so much more food from other countries. And
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, but isn't that in the law, in the free enterprise system that's supposed to make prices go down for the consumer? True.
>> Fred Jackson: It's supposed to. However, what it's doing, according to these farmers. This is why the president had this summit. It's killing the farm industry in this country.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. You understand what I'm saying?
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: we used to hear the stories about agriculture being subsidized by the federal government. In other words, they'll pay a farmer.
>> Tim Wildmon: Not to grow heavily subsidized food.
>> Tim Wildmon: Does that still go on?
>> Chris Woodward: It does.
>> Tim Wildmon: Sorry. I make that happen.
>> Chris Woodward: It's in the farm bill, which is like every four or five year bill.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's not how we treat any other industry though. And I understand it's right or wrong. We don't subsidize, the real estate market. Right. We don't subsidize people who make automobiles.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, right. Some Democrats have long claimed that we're subsidizing oil and gas, but the oil and gas people say that's, it's a different thing. They're getting tax credits and tax.
>> Tim Wildmon: But I understand why you do it. I understand. Because you don't want our. When you're farming, you can't go out of business and then go back into business and then go out of business and go back into business. You have to have some consistency. And if, let's say the weather for example, creates a problem, well, it hurts the whole country if, farmers en masse have to go out of business because of a drought or too much rain or too much. So we're, yes, it is protectionism, so to speak, but it's done for the greater good. So it's not necessarily exactly in that free enterprise, free market that the chips fall where they may. Category.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, especially on that when you talk about food, you don't want to become overly dependent on other countries. And that's what Trump is trying to turn around now.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah. Well, rice, we grow a lot of rice in the US we do.
>> Fred Jackson: And this young lady representing rice growers was saying, but, but the rice farmers here are being hurt by the dumping of rice in this country by countries like India and Thailand. And Trump says, I'm going to do something about that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but don't we dump. Ours in other countries too?
>> Fred Jackson: Maybe, I'm not sure. Because soybeans, I think it costs.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, yeah, but that's different.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's not America first we care about.
Jasmine Crockett is running for US Senate from Texas
>> Tim Wildmon: Next story.
>> Tim Wildmon: Chris.
>> Chris Woodward: All right, I mean, we could very well talk about this until the end of the program. Jasmine Crockett wants another job.
>> Tim Wildmon: Jasmine Crockett?
>> Chris Woodward: Yes. Representative Jasmine Crockett from Betty. No, not Betty Crockett. Jasmine Crockett.
>> Tim Wildmon: Jasmine Crockett. Who is she and what does she have to say?
>> Chris Woodward: She is the representative from the Dallas area that has not been a fan.
>> Tim Wildmon: Of House of Representatives.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes. She is not a fan of Donald Trump, not a fan of people like Ted Cruz or Governor Greg Abbott. She is running for the US Senate now, and she made that official yesterday on the last day of filing, paperwork to qualify for a Senate campaign. Let's hear a little bit from the representative.
Chris Betts: Her chances of winning Texas Senate seat amount to jack squat
Clip 12.
>> Speaker G: Turning Texas blue is what I want to talk to y' all about today. Now, there are those that say, ain't no way we didn't try it 50 kinds of ways. Let me be clear. Y' all ain't never tried at the JC Way. We used to tell us what I can't do. But they have no idea what Crockett's crew will do.
>> Tim Wildmon: Now, what's your first name?
>> Chris Woodward: Jasmine. People might remember her from clips, that we've played of her saying things like this. Clip 13.
>> Speaker G: I know we got Governor High wheels down there.
>> Tim Wildmon: Come on.
>> Speaker G: Now that this ridiculous tyrant is trying to do everything that he can to break our democracy. It's Ted Cruz. I mean, like, this dude has to be knocked over the head like, hard Timo Hitler in the White House right now that thinks that he is going to become the dictator of the United States.
>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, I think her. Her chances of winning a Senate seat in Texas amount to jack squat.
>> Chris Woodward: another.
>> Tim Wildmon: Another. Good.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think we talked about his. His cousin, Diddly squad.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, now, I think. I think, Jasmine, right there. She talks a lot. listen, you know, she talks a lot of smack.
>> Frank Turek: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. She called Governor Abbott, who is in a wheelchair from. From an act Wheels. She called him Hot Wheels, making fun of his wheelchair.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, man.
>> Tim Wildmon: and so, she. She's going to run as a Democrat. First of all, Democrats rarely, if ever, win statewide elections in the state of Texas. Now, maybe that's going to change one day. Secondly, she is a bad candidate to put up for a statewide election. She might win in her district in Dallas, but she has no chance. Who's she going against, Cornyn?
>> Chris Woodward: Well, it depends on who wins the primary between Cornyn, Paxton and Representative Wesley Hunt, who is a Trump guy.
>> Tim Wildmon: who's the favorite there? Paxton?
>> Chris Woodward: Probably Cornyn, just because he's the incumbent.
>> Tim Wildmon: I've seen polls the last month or two showing Paxton ahead of Cornyn.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And Paxton is the ag.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: So he's won a couple of times in a statewide.
>> Chris Woodward: I would be more than happy to be wrong here, but I do think her campaign needs to be taken seriously.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Chris Woodward: For a couple of reasons. let's go back, to the most recent Senate election in Texas. Ted Cruz beat Colleen E. Montague Allred by less than 10 points. She is a bigger name than Colleen E. Montague Allred, and Houston is a massive voting block.
>> Tim Wildmon: She doesn't live in Houston.
>> Chris Woodward: No, but it's a Democrat, stronghold.
>> Tim Wildmon: But it always has been.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, what else you got, Chris? Well, you got jack or squat.
>> Chris Woodward: You throw in Houston, you throw in Dallas. Beyond just her district, you throw in San Antonio, you have a horse race. Yeah, I'm not saying she's gonna horse, Chris. No, I'm not. I'm not saying she's gonna win, lady. I'm just thinking it's a little too early for people to be going on television, like people did on Fox this morning, to say she's the Christmas gift for Republicans. She will say things that will be wrong and she needs to be held accounted for, but I just don't. Go ahead.
>> Tim Wildmon: And she'll say I'm in. And, you heard it. What she say? play that montage again. This is.
>> Fred Jackson: I know.
>> Speaker G: We got Governor Hot Wheels down there.
>> Tim Wildmon: Come on, now.
>> Speaker G: This ridiculous tyrant is trying to do everything that he can to break our democracy. It's Ted Cruz. I mean, like, this dude has to be knocked over the head, like, hard Timu Hitler in the White House right now that thinks that he is going to become the dictator of the United States.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's your gal, huh?
>> Chris Woodward: Oh, no, no. I'm not endorsing her. I'm saying I don't think people should just go ahead and assume it's safely in Republican hands because she is a media dar. Fox runs her every hour. She'll definitely be on MSNBC or cnn, and they will do their best to make her better than Beto and better than Colleen E. Montague Allred.
>> Fred Jackson: I was going to say, if a Democrat was going to win a statewide election in Texas, Beto o', Rourke, probably had a better chance, and he did not succeed. So I don't see her. I'm sorry.
>> Tim Wildmon: She doesn't have a chance.
>> Fred Jackson: No.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, to your point, Chris, she could do well in places Parts of Houston, parts of Dallas. But you know, you have those collar, so called the collar counties which tend to be really red, really conservative and they get out and vote. She cannot carry those. I don't even think she can make a big dent there.
Ted Cruz only beat Beto by two points in the Dallas area
>> Chris Woodward: Yes, you, you just bingoed because I did go back. Beto o' Rourke had a better race, against Ted Cruz than Colleen E. Montague Allred did. Ted Cruz only beat Beto by two points. And when you look at the map of Texas, which obviously is massive to raise point, it is largely red with some blue pockets. But you know, he didn't pick up anything really up here in the Dallas area. She will win more of the Dallas area than Beto did.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that is close. I didn't realize, Beto, what was his name?
>> Chris Woodward: Beto o'.
>> Tim Wildmon: Rourke.
>> Fred Jackson: They spent a boatload of money.
>> Tim Wildmon: They did.
>> Fred Jackson: They did. They did A lot of money.
>> Tim Wildmon: They did. They went after Ted Cruz like crazy. This is not cruise.
>> Tim Wildmon: A more moderate candidate might have some chance. Yes, she, she cannot win.
>> Tim Wildmon: Next story. Chris.
>> Chris Woodward: All right, what do I pick from?
Senator John Kennedy says social media platforms are to blame for kids' problems
Ah, all right. There are some, hearings, today involving, social media platforms and the harms that kids, are experiencing by being allowed on there. somebody out there calling out social media platforms is Louisiana Senator John Kennedy who had this to say. Clip 6 the social media platforms could.
>> Tim Wildmon: Stop it, but a lot of them don't because they're worried that it's going to impact the number of people that use their platforms, which will impact their ad revenues, which will impact their ability to buy third summer home. Who's he talking about?
>> Chris Woodward: Various platforms in general, we're talking about like meta, own stuff, Instagram, Facebook, Instagram.
>> Tim Wildmon: what's the issue here? Why was Kennedy coming on this in the first place?
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, I'm sorry. social media platforms are to blame for societal problems involving kids. They're spending too much time on there and the stuff that they're witnessing, stuff that they're talking about is detrimental to their mental health.
>> Fred Jackson: And they're concerned about predators using social media to be, to befriend young people.
>> Tim Wildmon: I would not want, I would not want to be a parent. Mine are grown and gone, as they say, even though they appear. I'm just talking about my kids are in their 30s. They're adults. I would, I don't know. Chris, you and Brent got kid.
>> Chris Woodward: I do. And it's, it is a struggle.
>> Tim Wildmon: I would not want to be a parent today to try to. You know what I'm saying? Well, yeah, probably Shut down the whole thing.
>> Fred Jackson: I was.
>> Tim Wildmon: No phones, no nothing.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
Australian law says under 16 year olds cannot have Facebook accounts
>> Fred Jackson: I mentioned to our story meeting this morning, Australia, there's a new law there under 16 year olds cannot have an account, a Facebook account. social media.
>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, it's a law.
>> Fred Jackson: It's, it's a new law in Australia. The most strict in the world, actually.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I wouldn't be opposed to that. Listen, you have all kind of regulations that prohibit minors from doing things.
>> Tim Wildmon: How in the world, Fred, do they enforce that?
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, no, well, here's how what they're going to do. Massive fines for people who run these platforms.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, okay.
>> Fred Jackson: You need to be checking something like they do in Florida with regards to pornography.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: That you have to identify yourself to.
>> Tim Wildmon: Prove your of age.
>> Fred Jackson: That's right. That's right. So it can be done.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Especially if you're going to find X and some of these platforms.
>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, they, you got Instagram, you got Tick Tock, you got Facebook, you got what? YouTube, you got all these social media platforms. And you know, a lot of it's innocent, I know that. But but there are dangers out there that you hear about each and every.
>> Chris Woodward: Even with video games, Roblox has been a big issue of concern. Florida is going after Roblox, which is a gaming platform. And the concern is sexual predators or perverts or finding kids on there and doing bad things.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because you interact with people you don't know.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And they pretend to be somebody they're not. Right.
>> Chris Woodward: And that is actually another story we can get into in the next half hour if you wish.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. As I say, it's a dangerous world out there in the, for kids and social media and the Internet in general.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Just so much out there that.
>> Fred Jackson: They.
>> Tim Wildmon: can get into. And a lot of it's unbeknownst to the parents until they discover it, you know. Right. All right. we will be back with more of today's issues in five minutes. You're listening to American Family Radio. I'm Tim with Fred, Ray and Chris and we shall return. Stay with us.
>> Fred Jackson: Sam.
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