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Today's Issues continues on AFR with Steve Paisley Jordan

>> Tim Wildmon: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association. Hey, welcome back everybody to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. We'll be here another 24 and a half minutes and we hope you're having a, ah, a nice day. Today's December 31st, so whatever you've been procrastinating to do this year, you're down to. You're on the clock now. You got about, what, 13 hours to accomplish your goals for 2025.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And if it, if it requires reading the entire Bible, you're gonna start tomorrow.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. You failed what you've done. Might as well face that fact. You failed and repent and start over.

>> Fred Jackson: yeah. Or are you planning to lose £20?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, that's a better one. That's the I.

>> Tim Wildmon: In the upcoming year.

>> Fred Jackson: No, this past year, in 2025.

>> Tim Wildmon: And you didn't do it and you didn't do it again. Failure. Okay.

>> Steve Jordahl: Own it.

>> Tim Wildmon: You need to own it.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Where?

>> Steve Jordahl: Move on.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Learn from it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Learn from it. move forward and get it next time. There you go. Just don't get the cheesecakes. What we're saying. All right, Fred Jackson, Wesley Wildmon, and now Steve Paisley Jordan joins us. Good morning, brother.

>> Steve Jordahl: Good morning everybody. How y' all doing?

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I'm doing really good except for this, what I call cold weather. What people in Minnesota and I would say warm weather. People in Michigan would laugh this.

>> Steve Jordahl: Colorado boys having a hard time.

>> Tim Wildmon: I know it's not bitter cold, but anything below, well, anything below 35.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Next week we're back up to 65.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's what I'm talking about in Mississippi. That's why God put me here. That's right on this place, on the planet, so that I can have 55, 60 degree winter days.

>> Steve Jordahl: I'm, I'm getting ready to celebrate the 10th anniversary of my failure, to follow through on any of my NewSong Year's resolutions.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, you celebrating it, are you?

>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: How do you celebrate failure, Steve?

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, you go out and have a piece of cheesecake.

>> Tim Wildmon: So you, in other words, you just give up.

>> Steve Jordahl: Just give up and give in. I can. There's always next year.

>> Tim Wildmon: Everything working okay with this microphone? Okay.

College football playoffs begin tonight with Ohio State Miami vs. Alabama

All right, so before we get to. We got the most important news is the college football playoffs that are going to take place in the next 24, 48, 24 to 36 hours.

>> Tim Wildmon: And I'm just telling all my friends and family, do not contact me. Okay. Starting starting tonight. I'm gonna be zombied out.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, I thought you were about to make a prediction and if you got it wrong?

>> Tim Wildmon: I can make predictions, but I'm just saying that.

>> Wesley Wildmon: You'Re saying more so if you need something.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm saying that I'm going to be watching football. Watch football.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So if it's not about the game.

>> Tim Wildmon: That'S what I'm saying. you're going to call and tell me, hey, you know, the world's ending. I will say to you, fourth quarter, get back with me after the game's over.

>> Steve Jordahl: so tonight you're gonna be watching Ohio State Miami.

>> Tim Wildmon: I am gonna be watching Ohio State. I gotta watch my grandkids first.

>> Steve Jordahl: Well.

>> Tim Wildmon: I gotta watch them with my wife for a couple hours, while all our, our three kids and their spouses go out to NewSong Year's Eve dinner.

>> Steve Jordahl: Set them up on watching all the kids play area right next to the tv. You can kind of.

>> Tim Wildmon: We are gonna put them in front of the tv, on a family friendly movie that.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Popcorn.

>> Tim Wildmon: Then I'm going to go home and watch Ohio State Miami play.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, I think that's going to end up.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't have a dog in that hunt, so to speak. but we, have a lot of listeners in Ohio and a lot of people who donate in Ohio to our ministry. And I'm not going to upset them more than Miami. So I'm a pull for the Buckeyes right there. There you go. But I have nothing against Miami. Pull for the Buckeyes. Then tomorrow we got Oregon versus Texas Tech.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yep. That's the first game.

>> Tim Wildmon: First game, right?

>> Steve Jordahl: Yep.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm going, I'm pulling for Texas Tech right there. Nothing against Oregon again. But Texas Tech is one of those teams that's never been to the playoffs. College football playoffs going to be heavy lift. I'm pulling for the underdogs, so to speak.

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, then you're, the second game. You're obviously then rooting for Indiana.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. You know, I have a lot of friends who are Alabama fans, but,

>> Steve Jordahl: Roll Tide, I had to say that to my marriage.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know what I would say in human history? You know what you want enough, you know, So I gotta go Indiana right there. All right.

>> Fred Jackson: Huh?

>> Tim Wildmon: well, you know, again, nothing against Alabama. Would you have on me what I'm saying in all these games, I am pulling for the little guy. I'm pulling for the little dog who's taking on the big dog. You understand? What? Except for Ohio State Miami.

>> Steve Jordahl: So here's the way that most people, they have a team they root for and if their team is not playing, then they go to maybe the conference or.

>> Tim Wildmon: yeah, but Indiana is such a good story you're doing.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. The narrative, the losing his program in college football history. And here they are, number one in America with a Heisman Trophy winner and they got a chance to re. For. For a Hoosiers to movie.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. If they win at all.

>> Steve Jordahl: I'm saying one of the benefits of the new college football way, things are with nil and the transfer portals and everything. Nothing.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's the subject for another day.

>> Steve Jordahl: It is, but I think it's kind of the reason that teams can't.

>> Tim Wildmon: You want some nil money, Steve, is. We're getting around to.

>> Steve Jordahl: I, I will. I will take whatever's.

>> Tim Wildmon: Are you going to Whatever's off. Are you going to hit the transfer portal?

>> Steve Jordahl: No, there'. There's a Paisley team that's kind of waiting, but I'm going to.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm going to Paisley team.

>> Steve Jordahl: I'm going to stick here.

>> Tim Wildmon: Aren't you going to ask me about, so, you know, I love. I love the tradition of Alabama, but again, I'm pulling for underdogs here.

>> Steve Jordahl: Okay, then the last.

>> Tim Wildmon: Indiana is not an underdog in this game. No way.

>> Steve Jordahl: No. It depends on which Alabama team shows up.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, Alabama's been very last game of the day.

>> Steve Jordahl: Last game of the day.

The winner of the college football national championship will come from Ohio State, Indiana

So Georgia and Mississippi. Ole Miss. You are a State fan, obviously. Does that pull you towards Georgia in this case? Because.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, listen, I am a Mississippi State grad.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Played in the fifth.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wesley. Wesley, my son here. My son here went to Mississippi State. Our whole family is Mississippi State grads and fans.

>> Steve Jordahl: Cowbell to the, to the bone.

>> Tim Wildmon: We suffer together.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right?

>> Tim Wildmon: We go through life.

>> Wesley Wildmon: No, we just count down the days of baseball.

>> Tim Wildmon: We wait till baseball. That's our sport, baby. Yeah. Huh? Huh? Yeah. That won't be long now. The college baseball and then you'll see our school in the top five.

>> Steve Jordahl: Absolutely.

>> Tim Wildmon: But you're asking me about the Ole Miss Rebels, right. Which are our rival. Yes, they are our in state rival. And, I'm putting that aside and I'm going. I'm pulling for Ole Miss again.

>> Steve Jordahl: An underdog in the.

>> Tim Wildmon: An underdog. Yeah. Ole Miss is the underdog. Georgia. Not quite like Alabama, but Georgia has won. And 1 and 1. America does not want to see Georgia and Alabama and Ohio State anymore in the national championship. In the national. With all due respect to their fans, America's ready to see Texas Tech, Indiana or Ole Miss.

>> Steve Jordahl: All right. without going through all of the.

>> Tim Wildmon: I speak for America.

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, of course you do. Without going through all the permutations. Who's that spell that word. You just use permutations. P, E, R, M U, T A T, I, O, N. Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, I won't go through them. M. But go ahead.

>> Steve Jordahl: So we could do. Who's going to be in the semifinal? Two wins each game. But my question, the, the, the final question is who wins the championship this year?

>> Tim Wildmon: you asking me Wesley or Fred?

>> Steve Jordahl: Let's go down the road. We can even get Brent involved if he wants.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, well.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, there's to ask it in two ways. So do you want to win it and who's going to win it?

>> Tim Wildmon: All right.

>> Steve Jordahl: Answer however.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'll answer this way at this juncture because we're in the final so that. Okay. I'm saying the. This is my own opinion and if anybody disagrees, that's fine. I'm saying the winner of the college football national championship will come from either Ohio State, Indiana or Georgia.

>> Steve Jordahl: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Those are the teams that have the most talent. Whether they win it all or not. I don't know but those are teams have the most talent. and they played most consistently during the year. But we'll see what happens.

>> Steve Jordahl: Wesley, are you got a picking up. Picking a winner.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I agree with what he said. I. I think Ohio State's gonna win the whole thing. But I want Indiana to win the whole thing.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, he wants it. He wants another Hoosiers.

>> Steve Jordahl: M. There you go. Fred. This is a sport that's played on grass with an oblong ball, not on ice.

>> Tim Wildmon: So do you even gonna watch the games? Fred, do you care at all? I do.

>> Fred Jackson: I usually watch the Rose Bowl.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: We have the Rose balls. Indiana and Alabama. Yeah, they could have met in Nashville. Saved a lot of money.

>> Fred Jackson: Well, I have a son in law who's a grad of Alabama. so I'm going to go with Alabama.

>> Tim Wildmon: You pull it for Alabama.

Brent Creely says the Bible does not speak to college football

>> Fred Jackson: Peace in the family.

>> Tim Wildmon: They married into an Alabama family. Yeah.

>> Steve Jordahl: Roll title though. I have kind of my. My doubts. Brent, do you. Do you have a pick in this?

>> Tim Wildmon: Brent? 

>> Brent Creely: I want. I want Indiana to win, but I feel like Georgia may be the person 

>> Tim Wildmon: You mean to win it all. Win it all? 

>> Brent Creely: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Won't Indiana. But you're picking Georgia. Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right.

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, one way the brain and the idea.

>> Tim Wildmon: I did ask Alex if this is. Any of this is mentioned in the Revelation. Revelation. And he said no. Oh, so, I'm sorry. So the Bible does not speak to the college football.

>> Steve Jordahl: God is not, involved in this. Every player. And they will give glory to him. Most of them.

>> Tim Wildmon: I always say in all seriousness, God doesn't care who wins the football game, but he does care about the people who play him.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: M. How you like that? That's a good answer, isn't it?

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I've actually written an article on that. Seriously. And so I'm serious, I don't understand the way out. The way I word it is God may not care about who wins the game, but he cares about how you play the game.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's true. Character, character, character. Character matters.

>> Fred Jackson: Yep.

Ukraine has sent drones over to hit Moscow, the capital

>> Tim Wildmon: all right, you're listening to today's issues. What's your first story?

>> Steve Jordahl: The, war that Donald Trump was going to, conclude and solve in 24 hours is on 24. Well, many more months. But, Ukraine has sent drones over to hit Moscow. They are, this, they're meeting, I guess the president and Zelensky were together recently and he's talking to Putin all the time. Donald Trump is. But there doesn't seem to be an end in sight. And now Ukraine is kind of going on the offensive by targeting, m. Moscow and some say maybe even Putin's residents.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, we talked about this the first hour. Well, we did, but that's okay for you bringing it up because this is a huge international story right now. The fact that the Ukrainians are hitting Moscow, Moscow, the capital of. In the heart of Russia, and knocking the power out. a lot of people in darkness over there.

>> Fred Jackson: Yep, 600,000. I think the only way this is going to end if Ukraine agrees to give up the 1/3 of the eastern portion of their country. That is the only thing that might Capital, M M Might satisfy Putin. If Ukraine says, okay, you can have that 1/3.

>> Steve Jordahl: The fact that they're sending offensive weapons against Moscow, the capital. That brings us to kind of a whole new level in this war. This is not going the direction of peace.

>> Tim Wildmon: Let me ask you this. Is President Trump, has he taken a policy position on. In other words, is he leaning on Zelensky and telling him you got to give up a 30 year country in order for this to. Is he promoting that idea?

>> Fred Jackson: To answer your question, you may remember, and we talked about it on our program here about three, four months ago when Trump did say Ukraine may have to give up something. And that was a strong hint to me that Zelensky is being pressured by Trump. Hey. To end this, to end the bloodshed, to end this war. If Putin was agreeable to ending this, if you give him that one third portion of your country. And, and so far Zelensky is not indicating at all that he's willing to do that. Thus the hitting back and forth continues.

>> Steve Jordahl: This has horrible echoes to things that happened in the past. When they they carved up Czechoslovakia, they gave up Czechoslovakia in World War II, they just Western powers decided this is what has to sacrifice. The. They weren't even in the room to talk about it.

Professor at Harvard takes university to task for focusing on white supremacy

>> Tim Wildmon: So next story.

>> Steve Jordahl: All right, there is a history, professor at Harvard whose name is James Hankins. And he is leaving. And he wrote a letter which is published in the magazine called Compact, about why he's leaving. He is leaving because he says the younger generation finds itself in a state of moral and intellectual disorientation. And he is kind of taking the Harvard University to task for being woke and focusing on so called white supremacy. And he's changed.

>> Tim Wildmon: He's saying Harvard's for white supremacy or against it.

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, they're against it, but they think it exists and they're hiring their student. He's talking about a student he had that was one of the best students coming out of high school, had all of the qualifications, but was passed over because he was white and male.

>> Tim Wildmon: I read that same story again. We're talking about a long tenured professor at Harvard. And. What's the gentleman's name?

>> Steve Jordahl: James Hankins.

>> Tim Wildmon: James Hankins. He's no conservative. I'm sure he's. Well, I don't know him, but I'm guessing they don't. He's. But he's saying Harvard, Harvard switched over like many of these especially Ivy League schools. Switched over to what? To giving admittance to people based on their race or their ethnicity or, or their minority status rather than who is who's more qualified in terms of objective standards like testing for example. Right, right. But you know, that's, that's the way it should be. You should, Jobs should be given out based on somebody's qualities and their performance and their achievements and their competence, not on whether they're a male or a female or whether they're black or white or brown or whether they're whatever the case may be. you should give an admittance to a, a university should be based on objective standards, not on somebody's race or gender or something like.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That, because otherwise it would be racist to exclude someone Based on their skin color.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, a lot of Asians have complained about this.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, there's far more Asians that are being than white people because a lot of.

>> Tim Wildmon: There's a lot of Asians that are. That excel in academics because that's very important in their family structure as much as any ethnicity. education, academic achievement is, very important to most Asian families. That's why you see them excel.

>> Steve Jordahl: Harvard. And the left is kind of taking your version of how they root for the underdog. You want the underdog football team to win. Anybody who is, in their mind, what they call oppressed, any group that is oppressed, whether it be because of skin color, because of income, because of sexual, orientation, so called.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Steve Jordahl: All of these things are. They don't care as long as the person that is in power is brought down.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that's. That's, That's not the American way.

>> Steve Jordahl: No.

>> Tim Wildmon: And, yet. No. Listen, then if you're. If you're, denying somebody entry into a university because they're a white male, then guess who you're. What you're doing. You're oppressing them.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So if you're for the oppressed, shouldn't you be for that person that's being oppressed? Listen, So, this, this whole DEI thing is just the wrong way to go about hiring and moving people in positions of which is what, jobs? Huh?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Which is why it's failing.

>> Tim Wildmon: If you don't poop, put people in positions because they are a certain ethnicity, religion, gender, that's just, not the right way to get the best and the cream of the crop. Go ahead, Fred.

Critics say New York's gifted and talented program is racially biased

>> Fred Jackson: Related to this. Zoran Mandani.

>> Tim Wildmon: Who? Zoran Mandami.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes. He will be sworn in, two ceremonies tomorrow as the mayor of NewSong York. First ceremony is at midnight tonight, and then there's a big ceremony, tomorrow. He is already, pointing towards, the head of his schools as being a man who wants to get rid of NewSong York City's gifted and talented program.

>> Tim Wildmon: See, why would you do that? Why would you do it? Don't you want gifted and talented students.

>> Fred Jackson: Which this according, to critics of the program, believe it is racially biased.

>> Tim Wildmon: So is the NBA.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes. Yes. these are for kids. They're smart kids. They're doing really well, and they want to be put in an environment that challenges them. This guy that, Zoran Mamdani is appointing to head up schools in NewSong York City, he wants to dismantle that completely.

>> Tim Wildmon: Because the name of what, though because social justice.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Equality.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, equality.

>> Fred Jackson: Dei.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, well, again, apply that to, I said the NBA. What if NBA teams were told, okay, you got to have, you got to be proportional here. Okay, you're going to have to have 60% white players, 30% black players. You're gonna have to have an Asian and a, Hispanic on your. And you got on your basketball team.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Now instead of who are the best players, let's sign them to contracts. No, you got to base it on other factors that have nothing to do with their skill level. Okay, that's, that's. I don't know. I don't know why this is hard to understand, except this is, it's, Most of this is driven by people who are socialist. They want social justice brought to the and so they believe in forcing it on people. And the way they can force it on people is to, deny. Deny people who are, from a majority, like white people, you know, the same. our Asians, Our Asians aren't. They're not quote Europeans. They're. Well, they're not quote Europeans. They're. They're not traditional white category in terms of ethnicity. Yes, but they would, It's not based on achievement. It's based on the dei. It's based on a, skin, color or a gender usually. Go ahead. Does that make sense? Does that make sense?

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: So, when somebody flies a jet and you get on a jet, right?

>> Steve Jordahl: And this is. They got an issue.

>> Tim Wildmon: They got two pilots up there. do you care about whether they're, a minority or a majority or. No. Are there really? They're male or female? No, you don't care about that. You care about, are they the best? Did they graduate the top of their class? Can they fly a plane? Or did they, did they, did they make it because of, a DEI program? Nobody wants to get on a jet like that.

>> Wesley Wildmon: yeah, we'll be covering stories like this over the next five or six years, 10 years. But the reality is though, that we need to remember is that the dei, and the wokeness is losing overall.

>> Tim Wildmon: It is because it doesn't work.

>> Wesley Wildmon: It doesn't work. And unfortunately we had to go through, the Biden administration predominantly applying this and culture, applying it for us to see that. But you don't have to be a conservative Christian to know that men can't play women's sports. No, I mean, you don't have. This is just.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, it doesn't work there.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, it doesn't work.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's unfair.

New York Mayor Mandami will be sworn in using a Quran

But also, did you see where he is, being sworn in, with a Quran.

>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, really?

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Talking about Mandami, the new mayor of NewSong York. He will be first time in history that a Muslim angry. Yes, he would be. Yeah. He will be sworn in with his hand on a Quran.

>> Fred Jackson: very interesting. Keith Ellison, the Attorney general Minnesota who's Muslim, he used the Quran. Ilan Omar used the Quran. And so now on both ceremonies, Mamdani is going to be sworn in using his Quran.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I thought we weren't supposed to bring religion in politics.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, that's what the left tells us. Unless it's, their religion.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Unless it's a Quran.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. okay, you save your. Save your emotions for the deer this afternoon. you're going to try to. You're going to try to make a meal out of.

Mom jumps in after baby who fell into ocean on Carnival cruise

All right, we got like just a.

>> Steve Jordahl: Shout out to a mom who's unnamed, who was on a Carnival cruise. she. The. The ship had docked at the outing a place, a harbor. And the little four year old little child wandered away and fell into the ocean between the dock and the ship. Without thinking, mom jumps in after the baby. Both were pulled out and both enjoyed the rest of the day and the rest of the cruise.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm glad there's a happy ending to that story.

>> Steve Jordahl: Probably wouldn't have brought it up, but.

>> Tim Wildmon: The point is the heroic behavior of the momma bear. Natural instinct.

>> Steve Jordahl: Didn't think she just jumped in.

>> Tim Wildmon: Praise God. Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Amen.

>> Tim Wildmon: The little girl was saved and her mom was saved.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yep.

>> Tim Wildmon: That was a Carnival cruise.

>> Steve Jordahl: Carnival cruise.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. All right, Fred. Thank you.

>> Fred Jackson: You bet.

>> Tim Wildmon: Thanks to Wesley and Steve and Brent Creely. And then we thank Chris, Woodward and Cole Greene for running the I don't think Cole. A lot taken for granted. Sorry, Cole. we're looking for alternative energy. Hey, listen, we will be here Friday for a live edition of trivia. So we'll be here live on Friday with trivia. Otherwise, we're off tomorrow, so our offices are closed, but we'll have some special programming for you.