Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildman
>> Steve Jordahl: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your
>> James Talarico: host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to afr. I'm Tim with Fred and Ray. And now Steve Paisley. Jordan joined us. Good morning, brother Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Morning, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: How you doing?
>> Steve Jordahl: I'm, I'm well. I am well, thank you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Now, you've been, not to get too personal, you've been going through some.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, I had a little, breaking
>> Tim Wildmon: down a little bit. Just.
>> Steve Jordahl: I'm getting old. It's not easy to get old anymore.
>> Tim Wildmon: The wheels. You put the wheels back on.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, I think we're, I think we're. I had a little procedure on Monday, morning. And, I'm coming fine.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, coming through fine. Amen. All right. All right. Well, again folks, thanks for joining us here on American Family Radio. We're here every Monday through Friday. Friday, tomorrow we have trivia show Learning University. So, Ed and JJ will be here. As far as I know, they're going to both be here, JJ and Ed will both be here. So, so we will have some fun, do some learning.
The Pentagon pizza index is up. It peaked last night, Fred says
All right, Steve, bring, us down with your first impressing news story.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, I was going to comment on something you guys said last hour, which was that, you don't know what's going on with the Pentagon or the, the, the primaries are out on the road so that nothing might happen in.
>> Tim Wildmon: In. That's what Krish was suggesting. Probably nothing today because the President's traveling, the Secretary of War is traveling, that. This is all on their agenda. Go ahead.
>> Steve Jordahl: However, the pizza index. The Pentagon pizza index is up.
>> Tim Wildmon: What? What?
>> Fred Jackson: This is real.
>> Steve Jordahl: The Pentagon pizza index is up.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, what's petty. What is the Pentagon pizza index?
>> Steve Jordahl: Somebody takes a look at, at the pizza parlors surrounding the pentag, and Last night around 7 o', clock, how busy they are. Last night around 7 o', clock, there was a raft of takeouts. So about seven o', clock, someone was taking pizza out of all these restaurants around the Pentagon. And the theory, of course, is that, generals and the plan don't, they don't go home for dinner. They order out for pizza when they're planning things.
>> Tim Wildmon: It sounds funny, but it's probably real. Yeah, it's probably a real indicator, isn't it, Fred?
>> Fred Jackson: That's right.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. And, and I don't know. I mean, now that the Pentagon knows that someone's tracking it, maybe.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know what this means. But I'm sitting here looking at this pizza tracker.
>> Tim Wildmon: From around the Pentagon. It. It peaked last night.
>> Steve Jordahl: This is last night. About seven o'. Clock.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. I don't know what extra pepperoni means, but they got a lot of people ordering extra pepperoni.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And maybe that's. I don't know if that means more like more battleship scent.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, if it was good, if there was pizza on all. If there was, if there's pineapple on all the piz, you might think we're attacking Hawaii. But we're not.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, we don't. Don't.
>> Steve Jordahl: Anyway, there was a lot of activity around the pizza parlor surrounding the pentagon yesterday at 7 o'. Clock. So something was going on. Although, I don't.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'll tell you what I don't. I'm not a. I'm not an aggressive, violent man. But you put pineapple on my pizza.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, I'm a big fan.
>> Tim Wildmon: Are you really?
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, keep that to yourself. Okay. Because I don't want to know that I like you. And if you If I know that if I see you putting pineapple on a pizza, it'll change my whole perspective.
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't want to do that, so.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, you don't. Right. Tell me you don't put pineapple.
>> Tim Wildmon: I do not receive that.
>> Fred Jackson: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. I just.
>> Fred Jackson: He's from.
>> Tim Wildmon: Steve's from California.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: California. They do that in California, right? That's right. no, I'm just kidding. If you want to put pineapple on your pizza. I just don't want to watch or taste it. I do like pineapple as a standalone fruit though.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: But yeah, it's good stuff. The freshest pineapple I ever had in my life was Alison. I went to Hawaii.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And we went to the Dole Pineapple. We did a Dole Pineapple, plantation tour, which was phenomenal. The ice cream.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: You just sit down and tear comes to your eyes. You just savor that moment in your life. You know you don't want to leave.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: But that wasn't the freshest. We went to that. We drove around Oahu.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: You can rented a car and drove around the whole island.
Sugar cane is grown in Florida, Louisiana and Texas
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And ah, we found a pineapple stand just on the side of the road.
>> Fred Jackson: Wow.
>> Tim Wildmon: And pulled over and got ordered the pineapple. Fresh out of the guys.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Just like you're eating it. You were here in the US eating a tomato right out of the garden in the middle of July.
>> Fred Jackson: Yep.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what it was like. And it was just like wow. This is a good. Well, it affected me so much, I remember it today.
>> Fred Jackson: There you go.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is like 40 years ago, 35 years ago.
>> Steve Jordahl: We used to go to the, the open market in Tenanteries Madagascar, when I was growing up. And one of the things that we would get is. That's where we shop for the food, the family and everything. But we. There was a place they sold, sugar cane, and it was so fresh, you bit into it and you had. You had to have napkins because it would get sugar cane juice or raw sugar all the way down. It was so good.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, what is. What is so sugar? I've never had raw sugar cane.
>> Steve Jordahl: it looks like bamboo. When it grows, it sticks, and it's, It's got a woody, pulpy kind of texture.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Do you bite into it or you have to cut into it and get to the interior.
>> Steve Jordahl: Cut into it. you cut into it to cut the bark off.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: And then. And then if you were processing it, you squeeze it out. It's like, getting. I don't be like getting SAP out of a tree, I suppose, but you squeeze that. But we could. This was so fresh, you could cut it and then bite into it, and it would. You could just chew it. Then you spit at the pulp and.
>> Tim Wildmon: You ever had sugar cane like that, Right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Not like that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, well, I think, they grow sugar cane Louisiana. Right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Does anybody know? I. I think that's true. I think maybe that may. That may be the only place in the U.S. sugar cane. Gross. Sugar cane in south Louisiana. See if I'm not right on that.
>> Steve Jordahl: well, let's see what's.
>> Tim Wildmon: Where I am, Right?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes, of course. You're always right. Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: If you can tell Allison to say that.
>> Steve Jordahl: okay, so here's a picture of the sugar cane. I'll show Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: Like in. In south Louisiana.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's all. It looks the same no matter where you're growing it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, okay. But. But the climate there is probably similar to Madagascar. Like, you grew up.
>> Steve Jordahl: Maybe. let me just write in sugar cane in the US Here, my.
>> Tim Wildmon: Just lost my mouse type in sugar cane, grown in US and see what pops up there.
>> Tim Wildmon: But to clarify, Tim, when you had the best pineapple you ever had in Hawaii?
>> Tim Wildmon: I did.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's great. But they weren't putting it on pizza, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: No, no, no, no, they weren't. Let me ask you this. Is there anywhere else in the US they grow pineapple? I don't think so. They've been in California. I don't think so. They grow Hawaii's it.
>> Steve Jordahl: Sugar cane is grown in Florida, Louisiana and Texas.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. All right. Well, the Texas part must be down there, like, near Louisiana. Must be the same type.
Limited, but mainly in the southern part of the state
>> Steve Jordahl: Limited, but mainly in the southern part of the state.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. You're listening to today's issues. There's your sugar cane update. There is next story.
The Board of Peace is meeting today in Washington with 40 world leaders
>> Steve Jordahl: Since you mentioned this, since we mentioned this before, coming in the air for something I want to play for right here if we can. But, the Board of Peace is meeting today in Washington. President Trump and 40 of his favorite friends from around the world.
>> Tim Wildmon: How many?
>> Steve Jordahl: I think at least 40 of the state heads of state are at the White House.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: And, President Trump, addressed them earlier this morning. Just want to play a little bit of what he said. This is cut 17.
>> Donald Trump: I only have one thing. I don't want to see people killed from parts of the world that are very far away from the United States. And if I have an ability to turn off wars, I want to use that ability because it's people, millions of people. It's like the Prime Minister said, 25 million people maybe. And that's a small number compared to what it could have been, if you really think about it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Donald Trump: No, I want to save lives and I don't care about prizes.
>> Tim Wildmon: So the change, I like that. But when, Remember when he told the.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, now that he's got one Nobel Peace Prize, I mean, it wasn't given to him, but he was given a peace prize from, the last woman.
>> Tim Wildmon: That woman. And he took it.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, he took it, but he doesn't now that he has one. Maybe he doesn't care about that anymore. But no, he's meeting and this Board of Peace is the heads of state of, nations around the world. And a lot of people are speculating that it's, going to be a, kind of a new, united, nations.
>> Fred Jackson: Yep.
>> Steve Jordahl: Create the function of what the United nations is supposed to do.
>> Fred Jackson: I think President Trump believes the United nations, he has said this even in recent days, has great potential, but it's not doing its job. And he believes that this group of individuals, are now, the primary reason it's been put together is to try to, bring the Gaza area back economically after the war. That's primary. But he believes this Board of Peace can go beyond that to deal with other world conflicts. And this morning he pledged $10 billion in U.S. funds, to this border peace. And, other countries so far have put 7 billion in. But they say they need 70 billion, 70 billion in order to rebuild Gaza.
>> Tim Wildmon: where to begin?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, listen, I appreciate President Trump's heart. Yes. On this, I really do. And I do think it's true that the United nations is in many ways, corrupt. I mean, especially just vote after vote after vote against Israel, no matter what Israel does show because there's so many more Muslim countries than there are Jewish countries. So they always got the vote. And then usually Russia joins in and China joins. It's usually just the US and the UK that are standing with Israel against this anti, Semitic, anti Semitic organization, which is the United Nations. Now. I, I don't know. I know you have to work together with other countries, Ray, around the world for different, various reasons. I mean that we just have to. The girl. The world economy is global now and we're in a. US Is right in there in that. But I don't, I don't know why you need any kind of a, Board of Peace. I don't know why you just can't let, the US Deal with countries one on one.
Ray: President Trump says we need $70 billion to rebuild Gaza
>> Tim Wildmon: Now, the situation in Gaza is so first of all, the devastation. Everybody understands.
>> Tim Wildmon: Excuse me, but. So is this, what this is about specifically, is the Gaza.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's Gaza.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. all right, my apologies. I thought it was a replacement of the U.N. no.
>> Steve Jordahl: Okay, so it started with Gaza, but he started seeing the benefit of, having regular one on one discussions with world leaders about world events.
>> Tim Wildmon: But one on one is different than a conglomerate.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, yes, but as long as we're sitting down, go ahead.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right, go ahead. On the Gaza, and then we'll come back to this. Go ahead.
>> Tim Wildmon: Look, what he's saying is, what they're saying is we need $70 billion to rebuild Gaza. I am 1000% in favor of it. If in fact Hamas, the infrastructure, the leadership has been destroyed. The last thing we need is Gaza rebuilt with Hamas still in power. So that remains to be seen.
>> Tim Wildmon: color me skeptical, but not about Mr. Trump. It's just about the mess that is the Middle East.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, Yeah. I think President Trump, his administration is trying to do the best they can with the situation that's at hand in Gaza. It is. Gaza is a, is a, it's basically a third world country right now. some would say it was before the war, but I'm just saying their, their infrastructure, they're a lot of the, a lot of the buildings. It's just if you've seen pictures, this is rubble, people living in tents now, it's a terrible humanitarian situation. That's. There's no question about that. But the problem with helping in Gaza is, as Ray said, is you got Hamas there and harass. Wants to kill all the Jews. And until Hamas lays down their weapons completely and gets out of the way so that the board of Peace and the people, from Internet, the. We. The United States had hoped that some Arab countries would join us. Maybe they will. But, in helping with the, rebuilding of Gaza, because Gaza is a beautiful place in terms of. It's right on the Mediterranean Sea. It could be a Dubai type situation. it could be, an international
>> Tim Wildmon: city or could be like the Singapore of the Middle East.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, yes, absolutely. That could happen. So, but, but, but you can't have that if you got Hamas, who's, you know, wanting, as I say, wanting to kill all the Jews and take back over the land of Israel. They're the same people who went, butchered, those 1200 people on that October 7th. so that's the kind of people you're dealing with. they're in their charter. It's to kill, Take over the land of Israel and m. Push all the Jews from the river to the sea. Right. That's right. So, anyway, it's, it's. I, appreciate what President Trump is trying to do here. but as the. Ray says, I'm skeptical about how this will all come down. I'll happen. You're listening to today's Issues. Next story. Steve?
Stephen Colbert's new nickname is Taco. I don't know if you're giving him new nickname
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, Taco. Stephen Colbert has been, playing out the string.
>> Tim Wildmon: Taco.
>> Steve Jordahl: Tac host or.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, Oh, I thought you said Taco.
>> Steve Jordahl: Sorry if I need to be.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know if you're giving him a new nickname.
>> Steve Jordahl: I speak for a living. I should do that better.
Stephen Colbert wanted to interview Texas Senate candidate James Telrico
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So talk talk show host.
>> Steve Jordahl: Talk show host Stephen Colbert.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: One of my favorites was fired by cbs, and he's kind of playing out the string. And, so he, he, wanted to have on Texas Senate candidate, James Telrico. He wanted to interview him.
>> Fred Jackson: A Democrat.
>> Steve Jordahl: A Democrat, Yeah. Of course he's not going to have the Republicans on, but this is part of the problem. He. CBS said, well, you can have him on, but it's going to trigger what is, known as the equal. What, is the equal, Federal Communications equal time rule, meaning that if you interview.
>> Tim Wildmon: The Fairness Doctrine.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, it's where if you interview one candidate, you got to offer the opportunity for the other one to.
>> Steve Jordahl: We operate under that now, too, so we can't have a candidate on to interview.
>> Tim Wildmon: I've had candidates on. And we've. And if the. And we've had to extend invitations to the other candidates because you have to be fair in that regard.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, Stephen Colbert didn't want necessarily to extend an interview. He, Talarico is running in the Democrat primary against Jasmine Crockett, and he's running, primary against, in the general against Republicans, against, John Cornyn, Ken Paxton and Wesley Hunt. They've all declared for the Senate.
>> Tim Wildmon: You got two Democrats running for office. You got two Republicans running for office.
>> Steve Jordahl: Three.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, three in the. United. In a united Senate with the primaries coming up.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And then you have the general election in November.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right. So anyway, he wanted to only interview one, and he played a little bit of the victim, you know, but he did interview Tel Rico. He just had to put it on the, show's, YouTube channel.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, YouTube, okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: Which is where it went.
>> Tim Wildmon: And not regulated by the fcc.
>> Steve Jordahl: Correct. I wanted to play a little bit of what, of what James Talrico talked about. Now, James Talrico is going to seminary. he says he's in seminary, and he claims to be a Christian, but some of his doctrine, I think, is a little bit lacking. We're going to run this by. I want Ray to come to give me a little talk on this, see what he thinks. Let's listen to cut nine.
>> James Talarico: Jesus in Matthew 25 tells us exactly how you and I and every one of our fellow believers how we're going to be judged and how we're going to be saved by feeding the hungry, by healing the sick, by welcoming the stranger. Nothing about going to church, nothing about voting Republican. It was all about how you treat other people. Jesus gave us two commandments. Love God and love neighbor. And there was no exception to that second commandment, love thy, neighbor, regardless of race or gender or sexual orientation or immigration status or religious affiliation. There is nothing Christian about Christian nationalism. It is the worship of power in the name of Christ, and it is a betrayal of Jesus of Nazareth.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, Ray, you're, he's going to seminary. Would you hire this guy as your pastor?
>> Tim Wildmon: I am so sorry to say he needs to go back and repeat all of his basic Bible study courses and all of his basic theology. The only thing he. Absolutely. The only thing he got right and what he said is that you're not saved by going to church. We've always said that. Right. he said you're not saved by being a Republican. Fine. We absolutely agree with that. What he got wrong is that salvation is not by good works even. Look, caring for the homeless, caring for the sick, caring for the widows. It's a great biblical, great biblical, obligation. But salvation is by faith, through grace in the Lord Jesus Christ, simple faith, trusting in him. So he is, I think, mistaken the fruit for the root. the only way anybody gets to heaven is not by doing good works, even noble good works, but by turning from your sin and trusting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. So yeah, well, he needs to go back and take those courses again and make sure he's in a biblical Bible believing seminary.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. And oftentimes it's not what people say when they're describing their theological Christian beliefs. it's what they don't say, as Ray just pointed out in part because I never, of course I didn't hear all this interview. So maybe there was other parts of it. But the people on the political liberal side, on the theological liberal side, I just never hear them m. Say anything about repenting of sin.
>> Fred Jackson: No.
>> Tim Wildmon: And that's like number one. Okay? That's like number one. In order to be, have salvation, the Bible says Jesus says you have to personally repent of your sin, ask forgiveness of God and give your life to Jesus Christ, devote your life to Jesus Christ. So, repenting of sin. But oftentimes these people don't even want, they don't even really believe in sin. M. now they, they don't believe in. Now they do believe it's a sin to be a white nationalist, whatever that is, or a Christian nationalist or Christian nationalist. I don't know. That's, they just throw those words around. That's people they disagree with. They just throw those kinds of words at, at, at us. it is true we're supposed to love God, love our neighbor. That is, he had those commandments right. He did have those commandments right. But, what they don't say, and then he goes into this whole list, it doesn't matter what color they are. Well, certainly not. But there are other things in that list where you go, yes, you're to love people, but you don't condone, their sinful behavior.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Ray: The Bible says homosexuality is immoral. I mean, certainly people that are transgendering are immoral
>> Tim Wildmon: So a person that's, you know, the Bible says homosexuality is immoral. It says that. I mean, certainly people that are transgendering, that's immoral. That's against the scripture. So there, you know that you don't ever hear that from the left because if you say that, then you're Judging people. Well, guess what? The Bible makes a lot of judgments. We're only repeating what the scripture says. I don't. I'm not. We're not. We didn't make the rules here. God made the rules. We're only proclaiming what the rules say. So, the rules of life, I'm talking about in human behavior. And when you say that, then the people on the other side go, well, you're judging. Well, call it what you want to. We're just telling you what the scripture says about what's acceptable and unacceptable in the eyes of God.
>> Fred Jackson: That's why you have to know your Bible. You know, I think the article that, I read about this gentleman, goes to a Presbyterian, usa, Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: But, you know, this is what, how liberals, theologians spin things, because you'll hear them say that, you know, we're made in God's image, therefore the homosexual is made in God's image, therefore God is okay with homosexuality. That's how they spin these things. You know, he said, love your neighbor, and that includes the homosexual, etc. Etc. Etc. Yes, we're to love our neighbors, whoever they are. But if they're committing sin by saying, we love our neighbor, if they're a homosexual, that doesn't mean God is okay with homosexuality. But that's the way they spin it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. And just because your belief lines, up with the Scripture, right, that something is, sinful or immoral. I use those words interchangeably here. Doesn't mean you hate somebody or you're a bigot.
>> Steve Jordahl: The loving thing to do is to warn them.
>> Tim Wildmon: But they say the only way that you show love is accepting him, for who and what they are.
>> Tim Wildmon: What did Jesus say? You shall know the truth, and the truth will set you free. If indeed what Jesus says is true, the best thing we can do is tell the whole world the good news, because it's the only way anybody can be saved.
>> Tim Wildmon: But Jesus told the woman caught in adultery he forgave her and said, I don't condemn you. But then he said, go and sin no more.
>> Tim Wildmon: No more.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: So he didn't say what you did was okay. He said, you're forgiven. Now go and live right now. For now. But he didn't dismiss the sin.
>> Fred Jackson: No.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go and sin no more. All right, we're out of time here. Thank you for yours, Ray. Thank you, Fred, Steve, Brent Creely, our producer, Cole Greene, who runs a video cam for us. we appreciate Cole doing that today, and thanks to Krish Woodward. We'll see you tomorrow, everybody. Trivia Friday.
