Today's Issues features American Family Association President Steve Paisley
>> Steve Jordahl: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. We're here for another 24 and a half minutes today. We are. And we want to welcome Steve Paisley toward all. Good morning, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Hey, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: Steve's here, Fred's here, and Ray's here. We're, we're all here. And what do you got for Steve?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, the State of the Union address was on Tuesday night and we've talked that deep and deep. But, there was one, event that I wanted to bring back. This involves a young teenager from Virginia named Sage Blair. And she was a guest of the president sitting up in the gallery. And, her story goes that when she was a young teenager, her school, transitioned her, tried to, pretended that she was a boy and treated her as a boy, called her a boy, did not tell her parents at all. They were completely, that's awful. Yeah. And so this was part of President Trump. You'll hear him, he started this. cut. I didn't get this part. But he said, and another way that we can ensure that we are now focusing on normal. And then this is what he said. Cut.
>> Donald Trump: 15 in the gallery tonight are, Sage Blair and her mother Myshel. In 2021, Sage was 14 when school officials in Virginia sought to socially transition her to a new gender, treating her as a boy and hiding it from her parents. Hard to believe, isn't it? before long, a confused Sage ran away from home after she was found in a horrific situation in Maryland. A left wing judge refused to return Sage to her parents because they did not immediately state that their daughter was their son. Sage was thrown into an all boys state home, suffered terribly for a long time. But today, all of that is behind them because Sage is a proud and wonderful young woman with a full ride scholarship to Liberty University.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wow. When I heard that, that just angers you, with a capital A to hear what happened to that young lady and the school going behind the parents back to promote this. now are the Democrats in favor of the school? Are they in favor of Sage?
>> Steve Jordahl: they did not stand for this. So I would say that they are on the school side.
>> Tim Wildmon: And is this, where, is this one of the points where President Trump said, these people are crazy?
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't remember if that's. I know he specifically said those words. I don't remember if it was in.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know.
>> Tim Wildmon: You remember that particular incident?
>> Tim Wildmon: look, that, that's an amazing story.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: how evil do you have to be sick? How depraved that you basically force a confused girl to, quote, transition to being a boy and hide it from her parents? That's woe to those who call evil good and good evil.
>> Tim Wildmon: And then the president said, then the judge.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Sent her to, a boy's home. A boy's home.
>> Tim Wildmon: Good night.
>> Fred Jackson: Because the parents.
>> Tim Wildmon: And she was abused there.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh sure.
>> Fred Jackson: The parents refused to refer to her as a boy because they know she's a girl. I, I would say one thing on this. If there was a Democrat president in the White House giving the State of the Union address, that story would never be told.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, never. And we thank President Trump and his team for letting that be one of the highlight, subjects that they wanted to talk about.
>> Tim Wildmon: On the night.
>> Steve Jordahl: Ray, I suspect that there's a verse in the Bible about millstones that might have some relevance as well.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. Heavy, heavy millstones around those who attack children in this way. It's, it's shockingly evil. And hey, kudos to Mr. Trump for having the courage, the old fashioned guts to call this out. And also to Liberty, giving her a full ride scholarship. God bless this young lady.
Former Air Force pilot accused of illegally training Chinese pilots
>> Tim Wildmon: Next story. Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, this is a story that really has escaped much press and I'm not sure why, but a former US fighter pilot and training officer, his name is gerald Eddie Brown Jr. His call sign as a pilot was a runner. he has been arrested and charged with providing and conspiring to provide defense services to Chinese military pilots without authorization. He faces up to 20 years per charge, per violation.
>> Tim Wildmon: are you basically a spy for the Chinese? That's what the accusation is. I don't know, selling top secret,
>> Steve Jordahl: information, it might not be that nefarious. He's not charged with espionage, I'll tell you that. And what his, what his comment, was when he, arrived in China to do this, he said, now I have the chance to fly and instruct fighter pilots again. I think maybe he just this, he had aged out of that profession.
>> Tim Wildmon: Where'd you find this news story?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, Fox has it now, as former Air Force pilot accused of illegally training Chinese pilots.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: you cannot, give military training, to, China. There's law specifically regarding China that you have to get specific authorization and he did not.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, so does he go to jail?
>> Steve Jordahl: He, well, he's prison. He's presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
>> Tim Wildmon: But yes, he if he's convicted of
>> Steve Jordahl: up to 20 years in prison and significant fines per violation.
>> Fred Jackson: Does the story mention that he was paid a lot of money?
>> Steve Jordahl: No, it doesn't say. that I had. I think he signed a contract. So he's paid some money, but I don't know. I had. They didn't list in here how much.
>> Fred Jackson: The story has some really strange points. Are the Chinese saying they didn't have any pilots smart enough to train fellow pilots?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Or, did they think they could get information out of this American citizen?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, when he first got to China, he sat down and he talked with the, Chinese people about his life experience. They asked him about the Air force. So whether he knew it or not. I don't know how intelligent this guy is.
>> Fred Jackson: Whether.
>> Steve Jordahl: Whether he knew it or not. Is that coming over the air?
>> Tim Wildmon: Sparks are flying.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. Okay, so anyway, whether he knew it or not, they were milking him for information.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you remember that couple about a year or two ago? It was. I think they were a married couple, and they were caught selling, information to the Communist Chinese. And they were in the military. I think they were the navy. They were in the submarine.
>> Steve Jordahl: That was more. That was literal espionage, where they knew they were spying or selling top secrets. he. This man, the way this is written, the stories I've read, he might just have been not that intelligent. I mean, he's a fighter pilot, so he's got some brains, but.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Yeah, but we all know the. Well, I won't say that. We'll stop right there. Next story, Steve.
A Muslim bakery refused to do a same sex wedding cake, sparking outrage
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, Steven Crowder is a, podcaster, a conservative podcaster, and he decided he wanted to have a little fun. He asked this question. What do you think would happen if we went to a Muslim bakery and asked for a gay wedding cake? Well, there's no need to wonder. He said, we did it for you. Listen to cut 12.
>> Speaker F: What do you think would happen if we went into a Muslim bakery and asked for a gay wedding cake? No need to wonder. We did it for you. What's really important is getting the picture and the writing. So it's going to be me and Benny. Will you have pictures then There?
>> Steve Jordahl: No.
>> Speaker F: In Kroger.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Speaker F: And, I want to say Ben and Steven forever on the top, and then on the bottom, it'll say, same sex legal now. Congratulations. But everyone keeps sending me somewhere else. They said, this is what you do here.
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't want it.
>> Tim Wildmon: What.
>> Tim Wildmon: What would be the point of Steven Crowder doing. Wesley listens to him a lot.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, I happen to be wearing under this shirt a T shirt from Masterpiece Cake Shop in, California. This was Jack, Phillips, and he went to the Supreme Court because he refused to do a same sex wedding cake. And the left just went crazy. They're still going after this man. but I think the point is that there is no outrage when a Muslim bakery does this. But there is if you're a Christian and you decide to follow your faith. It's just a hypocritical stance that they're taking. And Steven Crowder pointed that out for us.
>> Fred Jackson: M. Next story.
More than 120 Canadian churches have burned down in the last four years
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, this is a difficult story and Fred, I'm going to lean on you a little bit on this. In the last, four years, there have been more than 120 Canadian churches that have burned down.
>> Tim Wildmon: How long? Over what time period?
>> Steve Jordahl: Four years.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: And what they're saying is it might have something to do with the discovery, alleged discovery of some graves of indigenous children. from the 19th century until the 1990s, more than 150,000 indigenous children were obliged to attend state funded schools in a campaign to assimilate them into Canadian society. And there are. And I don't know, Fred, what the accuracy is on this because I've heard that there's nothing there. And then I've heard that there is, but.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, I can't speak to what the investigators have found so far, but I do know the story goes back almost 50 years that, native children, were sent to schools, most of them run by the Catholic Church. And there is. There has been ongoing controversy literally for decades over, that there have been court cases involved in this and you know, church officials had to pay fines, etc. Etc. So I don't know of the. How many churches, was it more than 100.
>> Steve Jordahl: what was the number? 140.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, I'd be interested to know if they were all Catholic churches.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, I don't have that granular bit of information on that, but it does tell me that. And if the churches were complicit, they deserved to pay and to suffer the consequences of those crimes. But it points out to me that the left, their first move is to violence. You know, you. And.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, it's been. there's. And there's been a lot of these churches lately. I think the latest one was actually in the last week in Montreal. Yeah, there was a Catholic cathedral there that, that burned. So, yeah, that's very sad story. But, that's. That's Been going on for some time.
>> Tim Wildmon: However, if we had one, one mosque burned down, or one, it would be.
>> Fred Jackson: Oh, my.
>> Tim Wildmon: Like, you know.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Paul De Waal news story. M. All right, next story. Steve.
Florida legislature wants to honor Charlie Kirk with day of remembrance for him
>> Steve Jordahl: All right. I gotta. We've been looking a little bit at the craziness in the Democrat Party. they get. They seem to be getting crazier and crazier. And I have another example of this. This is in Florida. There's a Democrat, Florida, state representative. Her name is Ashley Viola Gant.
>> Tim Wildmon: G A N T T. Ashley Viola what?
>> Steve Jordahl: Gantt.
>> Tim Wildmon: Avg.
>> Steve Jordahl: Avg.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's what.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well, you got aoc.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: So I need an abg.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, well, we got an AVG now. And ABG has an interesting take. Florida decided that they wanted to honor Charlie Kirk with a day of remembrance for him. And she was in the legislature speaking out against said day. This would be at night.
>> Speaker G: So the First Amendment protects free speech. We don't need this day of remembrance for a man that was mediocre and racist. And I say mediocre at best. He was not a Floridian. He had no ties to Florida other than owning property. If we want to talk about free speech, let's talk about being precise with our words. When we hear assassination that's typically related to a person and a political position. Charlie Kirk died from gun violence.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay?
>> Speaker G: He was not assassinated. And words being accurate matters. It was a death by gun violence that is an issue here in the country that we should all be on the same page with addressing. And if we want to talk about free speech, you know, a lot of people say that was some white on white crime. Why aren't we addressing it in that regard? What are we doing about white on white crime, man?
>> Tim Wildmon: Where to start? Yeah, well, she lost me. The gun violence thing is, stupid because he was assassinated by a person using a gun. but what is she. What is the deal about white on white crime? What is it? What is it?
>> Fred Jackson: I don't know.
>> Steve Jordahl: The majority of crime, in this country is committed, is committed by black people. violent crime, shootings, gun violence particularly. And, it's often black on black. It's gang violence a lot of times. And so, conservatives have kind of made a deal about helping inner cities solve black on black crime. She's just trying to turn the page, on that and say, well, white people are just as bad as black people.
>> Tim Wildmon: well, if that was her point, she didn't communicate it very well. Go ahead.
>> Fred Jackson: Now, one of her other points was Charlie Kirk wasn't from Florida.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, did she, Tried to stop.
>> Tim Wildmon: She said he was a homeowner.
>> Tim Wildmon: Said he was a homeowner.
>> Fred Jackson: She said he wasn't from Florida.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Did she honor Martin Luther King the other day? Martin Luther King Day? I don't think Martin Luther King was from Florida.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know you know her.
>> Fred Jackson: So many holes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Her argument. The reason Steve played it.
>> Fred Jackson: Yep.
>> Tim Wildmon: Which is kind of representative of many on the left, quite frankly. It's. It's, They make. They make points that aren't really any. Don't. She said Charlie when she lost me. When she said Charlie Kirk wasn't assassinated. It was gun violence. do we use assassin? Assassination is when somebody shoots somebody.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Dead. Or kills them dead for, not necessarily just political reasons, for ideological reasons. Assassinated.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
>> Fred Jackson: You don't have to be a politician that has gone down to be. Call it an assassination. Charlie Kirk was assassinated. And the man being held as a suspect is,
>> Tim Wildmon: Correct.
>> Fred Jackson: Going to trial right now.
Florida legislature wants to honor Charlie Kirk
>> Tim Wildmon: So the reason this is a story is the state of Florida letter legislature who wants to honor Charlie Kirk. Memory of Charlie Kirk. And this woman here who we just heard from, she doesn't want to,
>> Fred Jackson: So it's so sad.
>> Tim Wildmon: And her. But her argument, not a very strong one at all. You're listening to today's issues on afr. Tim, Fred, Steve and Ray, go ahead.
Government reportedly deleting hundreds of gigabytes of files on UFOs
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, well, they are starting to look into UFOs. I tell you this, this would have been the biggest story have, ever had.
>> Tim Wildmon: who's looking into it?
>> Steve Jordahl: The government, actually, the government is taking this seriously now. There's videos and there's a whole lot of evidence of things that are unexplainable by technology that we know. And there's a lot of speculation about are there extraterrestrials or what is going on here. But they're finally taking this seriously, and it potentially has the answer. Are we alone in the universe? And all these big questions, it's kind of getting buried. But interesting that a lot of files were just, recently declassified. And President Trump said that he wanted them released. But all of a sudden, one of the biggest libraries of this unclassified, government, files was wiped clean. they just disappeared on February 20th. Deleting hundreds of gigabytes worth of files on UFOs. This was the largest bank, a library bank of this kind of information.
>> Tim Wildmon: Where'd it go? Who did this?
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't know if Hillary Clinton was there with her, her cloths to wipe it clean. But they're gone.
>> Tim Wildmon: Was it done by ET I mean maybe an extraterrestrial, troves of classified
>> Steve Jordahl: files can publicly and freely be searched. They're called the black vaults. They detail military base reports, witness testimonies. the timing of the potential sabotage came just hours after President's history making declaration ordering the Pentagon to disclose anything related to alien and extraterrestri life. Someone just didn't want us to see, I guess.
>> Tim Wildmon: Fred, what do you think about this story here? Got any comment, Fred?
>> Fred Jackson: Well, I, I do find it interesting if you go back in recent years, President, Trump, I think in his first term, he was the one that started to talk about this because it's been out there, you know, the, the gossip and the, and the reports. I remember one report in particular I think was over Phoenix. People were seeing little dots in the sky, all that sort of thing. And there was a congressional investigation, into all of this. You know, a lot of it always comes back to that's Area 51 there, there's got to be something there. And you have had, you've had, you know, us Air Force pilots report seeing things. You know, they're flying along and they see things that, that and the crafts that they're seeing make very abrupt moves. Stop, go. Etc. Etc. And these pilots have said, we've reported this. we don't know what it is, but we're reporting it. I don't know. Ray.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ray.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, throw it to Ray. Ray has got some theological thoughts on this. Right, Ray?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, look, I'm waiting for, for President Trump to come out and set it all straight.
>> Fred Jackson: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Tell us the whole story.
>> Tim Wildmon: He did. He's going to give a major UFO speech and he can. The White House said, is that right?
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what they said.
>> Fred Jackson: He, President Trump has said, I want all of this out on the table.
>> Tim Wildmon: Then Barack Obama kind of upstaged him.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: The other day talking about UFOs, Ray,
>> Steve Jordahl: there's a strain of thought that, that
>> Tim Wildmon: drain a pot,
>> Tim Wildmon: there could be a connection.
>> Tim Wildmon: I was gonna say, okay, we don't, we don't know.
>> Steve Jordahl: There are people who say that this isn't extraterrestrials, but this is demonic. Have you heard that?
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh sure, I have. And I, I have no doubt that as we approach the end of the age, and I think we are approaching what we started off talking about, if the Lord tarries. Well, as we approach the end of the Age. We're going to see an outbreak of Satanism in the world, the likes of which we have never seen before. I think that's. There's some real roots in the book of Revelation. So it wouldn't surprise me if some of what is being seen is actually, demonic activity meant to deceive people. Now, the more interesting question, guys, and I do not have an answer for it. We know they're angels. We know they're demons. is there another category of spirit beings that are neither angels or demons? Fred? I'm not. I don't clearly see that in the Bible, but I don't know exactly how to answer that question.
>> Steve Jordahl: what does it do to your theology, Ray, if there were other, like, extraterrestrial beings on some other solar system someplace out there? How does you know.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who speculated about this? The great British preacher Charles Haddon Spurgeon, greatest preacher the English language has ever produced. I would say he speculated that there might be races of quote, beings own other planets in other galaxies. Now, you got to understand this back in the 1870s and 1880s, way before. Way before all the technological advancements. But it's,
>> Tim Wildmon: Nobody knows how to answer that question. Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: I just know that if. If they're good at football, Mississippi State could use them.
>> Steve Jordahl: There you go.
>> Tim Wildmon: Pick them up in the. My mind goes that direction.
>> Tim Wildmon: The intergalactic portal. Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: If it takes extraterrestrial beings to help us win. Right. I'm all for it.
>> Steve Jordahl: That just puts steroids is like, on a whole nother level, doesn't it?
>> Tim Wildmon: We got a guy with four legs and six arms. He comes from Andromeda a. M. And
>> Tim Wildmon: he's fast him up.
I'm tired of the stereotype of the abductions
He is so fast, the air force doesn't even. Can't even keep up with him. Also, I'm a little bit tired of the stereotype of the abductions.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: The people. it appears to me every time this is an interview that they find somebody, if they're not, A southerner from the sticks. They found a midwesterner. They found a backwoods midwesterner.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. Half their teeth gone.
>> Tim Wildmon: Half their teeth gone. They slaughter the king's English and they're all square.
>> Steve Jordahl: Clara, I was this as big as a house.
>> Tim Wildmon: I swear. I abducted. What did they do to you up there? So anyway.
Tomorrow's Friday, Trivia Friday. JJ and Ed gonna be here. And a good time will be had
All right. We're about out of time. probably a good.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Probably a good thing. We're about out of time.
>> Fred Jackson: M here, so.
>> Tim Wildmon: Alrighty. Tomorrow we got, Tomorrow. Tomorrow's Friday, Trivia Friday. So we'll be here with Trivia Friday. JJ and Ed gonna be here. Jj, Jasper. And he'll tell you where he's traveling to and where he's planning where he's been. And J.J. always got a calendar open to us. And you can invite him to come speak at your church.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes, you can.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or at your event. jj, Jasper.
>> Steve Jordahl: And a good time will be had by all.
>> Tim Wildmon: JJ does a great job. He's probably our number one ambassador traveling the country there. JJ jasperaby.com But Ed will be here. I just want to thank you, Steve, for the UFO update. My pleasure, Ray. Thank you.
>> Tim Wildmon: You bet.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. And Fred.
>> Fred Jackson: Absolutely.
>> Tim Wildmon: And who else was on Alex?
>> Tim Wildmon: Krish. Is that it? Our producer, Brent Creeley. I want to thank Brent. You've never been abducted, have you, Brent? Would you tell us if you would.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. Would you tell us?
>> Tim Wildmon: Would you? Not that I know of. Okay. And Cole Greene, who does a video for us here on the show. All right, so, we hope you have a great day. Keep listening to American Family Radio. Lot of good stuff coming your way, and we'll see you back here tomorrow.
