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Today's Issues on AFR

>> Ed Vitagliano: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to afr. I'm Tim with Ed. And now Steve Paisley Dordog joins us. Good morning, Steve.

>> Steve Jordahl: Good morning, everybody. I am wearing my Hawaiian shirt in hopes that I can, like, impose my will on the weather. It's not working.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Impose your will on the weather?

>> Steve Jordahl: Man, that's right there, and it's, like.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Below freezing that I'm telling you. That is a lofty goal, my friend.

>> Tim Wildmon: To impose your will on the weather.

>> Ed Vitagliano: By wearing a shirt.

>> Steve Jordahl: No one ever accused me of.

>> James Talarico: Under.

>> Steve Jordahl: Under. Under. Shooting. Shooting. Too low.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, brother Steve, information for you.

>> Steve Jordahl: I don't know if I'm listening.

>> Tim Wildmon: You can do anything about this, but. Well, if I can, there's a winter storm going to hit some of the country, at least including our area on Saturday.

>> Steve Jordahl: I'm wearing shorts then.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, you do that. Take pictures or it didn't happen.

>> Tim Wildmon: is that the mind over matters that that was.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You don't mind? It doesn't matter.

>> Steve Jordahl: I keep saying that from Colorado and it doesn't affect me much, but, man, at some point it does. It gets pretty cold.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, the wind has been bad and there are people up in Wisconsin that are going, I don't want to hear what you guys have to say. You, man, be. Pamby's talking about wind. It's 50 below zero here.

>> Tim Wildmon: Football game last night between the Rams and the Bears. They're playing like it was, Now, it wasn't the coldest game you've ever seen, but they were still in 18 degree temperature.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Snow on the ground.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, on the ground.

>> Steve Jordahl: Incredible game.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, it was. It was. Then the Rams won it with a kicker. Yeah.

>> Steve Jordahl: Field goal.

>> Tim Wildmon: That was the heftiest kicker I've ever seen.

>> Steve Jordahl: They call him thicker kicker.

>> Tim Wildmon: He was a big boy.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, well, when you texted me, that's not the word you use.

>> Tim Wildmon: I wasn't fat shaming him. I was just saying that he likes the buffet. That's all I'm saying. and there's nothing wrong with that. Ah, when you make the kind of.

>> Ed Vitagliano: When you can. When you. And when you can kick, it doesn't.

>> Tim Wildmon: Matter what you look like. I'm just saying.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Pressure kick, too.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm just saying he did not look like your typical field, go kicker. I always. I've said here in football, it's just funny to me how, grown men, 300 pound. Men can slam around on each other for two and a half, three hours, and the whole thing comes down to 145 pounds.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: kicker. Kicker, yeah.

>> Steve Jordahl: Not in this case. He probably weighed 200 pounds. Do you remember the Raiders used to have Sebastian, Janikowski? He was a huge kicker.

>> Tim Wildmon: His big boy.

>> Steve Jordahl: Big boy.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, I remember that. But usually they're. Usually they're. They're slender and they're right, you know, kind of short. Usually the, that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Using that soccer style, soccer style.

>> Tim Wildmon: Kick, kick. Nobody kicks straight ahead anymore, do they, at all? That's been gone for, what, 20 years?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, maybe more than that.

>> Steve Jordahl: I was watching something on, the NFL Channel. Kick, throwback, and it showed one of those barefoot kickers. Remember? That was the rage that.

>> Tim Wildmon: I remember that.

>> Steve Jordahl: Barefoot.

>> Tim Wildmon: I was one of those.

>> Steve Jordahl: Were you?

All sports careers that you have given up include kicking

>> Ed Vitagliano: You were a barefoot kicker.

>> Steve Jordahl: It must have been hard in the ice.

>> Tim Wildmon: Man, that would have tried out for the Raiders and the couple of other teams that didn't make it. But, I was, you know, but almost all the.

>> Ed Vitagliano: All the sports careers that you have given up, it's really golf, a lot of baseball, basketball, and now football. I didn't know a lot of were.

>> Tim Wildmon: Shortened because of injury.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And did you think that was it?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's right. Including the kicking. So, anyway. All right. You're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. It's kind of painful to go down that road. Ed, if you don't mind.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Hey, I'll leave you alone with your painful memories.

>> Steve Jordahl: How did you bring it up in the first place? Right, Ed?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, well, I did.

>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, I played basketball in the Micah Jordan era, so there.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I played basketball in the Micah Jordan era.

>> Tim Wildmon: There was nothing I said was untrue.

>> Steve Jordahl: Between me and Tom Brady. We have seven NFL championships.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, six. You see what I'm saying?

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: How.

>> Tim Wildmon: How he's looking.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's exactly right.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, well, again, thank you for listening to American Family Radio just real quickly.

Walker: We've got some wonderful tours lined up this year

I know, folks have heard about this if they listen to afr, but, we've got some wonderful tours, lined up this year, and here they are. I'm about to give them to you. In June and September, we are going to Washington, D.C. our nation's capital, including George Washington's Mount Vernon estate. It's a fabulous trip. So if you ever wanted to go see our nation's capital, why don't you join us this year? We'll take care of you. It'll be fun and fellowship with People, who come to Washington, around the country, like yourself, Christians who love the country and love the Lord. So we're going to do that in June and September. And then we're also going to Colonial Williamsburg, Jamestown, Historic Jamestown, the original Jamestown site, of the settlement. That's where we're going. And we're going to Yorktown as well. Although the patriotic. It's not called. That's called something else. the triangle there, the historic Triangle, basically, in that part of Virginia. Williamsburg, Jamestown, Yorktown. So those tours are back to back. You can do one or the other. Or, if you want to stay with us from Saturday to Saturday, we'll take care of you the whole time. And you can see all of what I've just mentioned. So those tours are available and people, are signing up to go on them. Don't get, caught. And you know us, be full. So you want to go ahead and get, get the information on that. And then in September,

>> Steve Jordahl: Walker,

>> Tim Wildmon: And Wesley, my sons, are leading a Tour with Stephen McDowell and Tim Barton, the Wall Builders. And Ed Battagliano.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm coming along.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's going to go to his old stomping ground where he grew up, the Boston area.

>> Steve Jordahl: Ever been to Boston before?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been there.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Ed grew up there in Boston. And so, NewSong Hampshire, going to the Freedom Trail, going to, Concord and Lexington and Fenway going to, I don't know if they're going to Fenway or not.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I doubt they'll go to Fenway.

>> Tim Wildmon: Red Sox will be playing, though. If you want to go to a game there.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Listen, I'd love that.

>> Steve Jordahl: That's on my bucket list.

>> Tim Wildmon: Also go to, They're going to go to Plymouth, Rock. So lot to see in the Boston area. That tour is on fire right now. People are signing up like crazy. So if you want information on any of those tours I've just mentioned, go to this website, wildmongroup.com w, I, l, d m, m o n group.com wildmangroup.com all the information is there. The cost, the itinerary, Q and A, all you need to know there. So, we encourage you to join us on those tours if you, would like to go on a vacation with a purpose.

James Talarico is being touted as a Christian Democrat running for office

All right, Steve, what's your first story?

>> Steve Jordahl: I would like to introduce you to a lawmaker in Texas whose name is Representative James Tallarico Talarico. He's a Democrat and he's a Texas state lawmaker. He is running for Jasmine Crockett's seat in the House. So he is, and expected to give her a run for her money because she's kind of a firebrand.

>> Tim Wildmon: He's running against her in a primary.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, that's what we're being told. But, he's being touted as a Christian Democrat. And I was listening to a little bit from, he was on Joe Rogan. And Joe said, I've never heard of a Christian who didn't want the Ten Commandments. What's the deal with not wanting to take Ten Commandments in the classroom? He says, well, I was in seminary and thinking, going into the ministry, but I went into politics and, I believe in the separation of church and state. But he passes himself off as a Christian. And I keep hearing him quoted as a Christian. Well, this is the kind of Christian that he is. when he was on the Joe Rogan podcast, he made the case. I'm going to read this. That the Bible sanctions abortion. And this is what he quotes. He said, in the book of Luke, Mary has a vision from God that she's going to give birth to a baby who will bring down the powerful from their thrones. Which is exactly what it says. But critically, before she becomes pregnant, Telrico says an angel asks Mary if this is something she wants to do. And she says, if it's God's will, let it be done. He says to me, that's an affirmation of one of our most central stories, that creation cannot be done without consent. Therefore, God approves of abortion. He is so twisted, by the way, Luke does not say that he was not. Mary was not asked. The angel comes to her and says, you will conceive. You will do this. And she does say, if it is God's will, let it be done. But it wasn't exactly what he's portraying it to be. I want to also play you a little bit from, Tel Ricard. I'm doing this because if you hear about a Democrat or a liberal who says, they're Christians, you got to look. It doesn't take much digging to figure out that they're really not.

>> Tim Wildmon: Let me also say this real quickly, because this fellow you're talking about, James Talarico.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yes, sir.

>> Tim Wildmon: He is running in the Democrat primary against, Jasmine Crockett.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: She is a House of Representatives member from the Dallas area. I'm not sure what he is, but, so they're running to take on, the Republican, either Cornyn or,

>> Steve Jordahl: That'S in The Senate. This is a House seat that she's going for.

>> Tim Wildmon: No.

>> Steve Jordahl: Is Cornyn not a senator? I'm sorry, maybe I'm wrong.

>> Tim Wildmon: According to the information you get if you Google this, who is to doubt that? Steve, here's what it says. Jasmine Crockett is running in What?

>> Steve Jordahl: You're right. You're absolutely right. Go ahead.

>> Tim Wildmon: I get that a lot from my wife, so I'm used to what you just said.

>> Ed Vitagliano: you're used to Allison telling you you're right?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I just told a whopper right there. The big fat whopper.

Ed: Ken Paxton and James Talarico are running in Texas primaries

all right, so Jasmine Crockett is running in the Democrat primary. Primary for U.S. senate.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: In Texas, against this gentleman. You're talking about James Talarico, who is, ahead of her, according to these, substantially, in the polling, to, go against, the. The winner of the Republican primary, which will be either Cornyn, this. The senator right now from Texas, or Republican, but he is going against, the, Help me out, Paxton, the Attorney General.

>> Steve Jordahl: General, James Paxton.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Ken.

>> Steve Jordahl: Ken Paxton.

>> Tim Wildmon: So both Ken Paxton and, Cornyn are having a Republican primary. And these two people here, Jasmine Crockett and James Talarico on the Democrat side.

>> Steve Jordahl: So Jasmine Crockett, you may remember, is the one that brings race into everything. Everything is racial. And, compared to her, James Talarico does seem a little more moderate. But let me, give you a little bit of his theology, because you're going to find it a little bit upward in cut 18.

>> Speaker E: How do you think about the competing claims of different religions? Do you believe Christianity to be more true than other religions? Do you believe there to be exclusivity in these beliefs, that they're incompatible with each other?

>> James Talarico: I believe Christianity points to the truth. I also think other religions of love point to the same truth. I think of different religious traditions as different languages. So you and I could sit here and debate what to call this cup. And you could call it a cup in English, you'd call it something else in Spanish and French, but we are all talking about the same reality. I believe Jesus Christ reveals that reality to us. But I also think that other traditions reveal that reality in their own ways, with their own symbol structures. And I've learned more about my tradition by learning more about Buddhism and Hinduism and Islam and Judaism. And so I see these beautiful faith traditions as circling the same truth about the universe, about the cosmos.

>> Tim Wildmon: What's wrong with that theology right there, Ed?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, let's ask one of the apostles.

>> Tim Wildmon: Break it down.

>> Ed Vitagliano: This is First John, chapter Four, verse one. Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God. Because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This man is a false prophet. He's a false teacher. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing. He's probably an unbeliever. Okay, here's. Here are, There's so much wrong with what he said. First of all, he's free to have his opinions, but that's all it was. When he says all religions are basically calling the same cup in a different language. All these religions that he named, they are all exclusive. They make exclusive claims about their religion. Okay? Now what John goes on to say is he says this. This is one of the most powerful verses in the NewSong Testament, folks. Verse 6. First John 4, verse 6. We. He's talking about him and the other apostles are from God. He who knows God listens to us. He was not from God, does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error. You want to know what's true, you listen to the apostles, the apostles of the Lamb. The Bible says the church is built on the prophets and the apostles. the apostles names are, on the gates of heaven. And they heard from Jesus. They passed that faith along. This man, Mr. Delrico, is not passing on the truth of Scripture. So just because someone claims to be a Christian doesn't mean that he is. He is being moved by the spirit of Antichrist. That's what the Apostle John says, and that's good enough for me. The NewSong Testament teaches, and Jesus himself said, I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but by me. This man's a false teacher and a wolf in sheep's clothing.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know. He would consider himself a teacher, though, because he's just a politician running for office.

>> Ed Vitagliano: But he's teaching. He is teaching and proclaiming publicly what he believes. I agree with what you're saying, but he is teaching and proclaiming what he says is not true. Right?

>> Steve Jordahl: And he's using that his faith in his campaign. He is open and often talks about what his beliefs are. For example, that he doesn't believe. Now, there are a whole bunch of different arguments about whether the Ten Commandments should be posted in a classroom or not. I'm not saying that that's an easy answer or that it's one way is right or the other. But, this is one of the things he speaks to as a religious, as he claims to be a Christian. He says, I'm a Christian and I don't believe that this should happen.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, listen, we don't get our. I agree. We should, analyze what he's saying in terms of if he's going to make it an issue, his Christianity. When the Bible. Christianity claims to be exclusive as. Ed, you said other religions claim m to be exclusive in the truth too. So everything can't be true at once. And that's why a lot of these universalists like to have it where they don't address that issue that, each of these religions claim to be the truth. Well, they can't all be true. One of them is right, and none of them is right. I mean, you need to examine them all. But, Jesus, and Christianity is, you know, there's no room for other gods.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right?

How do you define the jealousy of God? So you brought up the subject

>> Steve Jordahl: God is a jealous God. And when we say that about God, it isn't jealousy, like petty jealousy. Isn't it? What is it? How do you define the jealousy of God?

>> Ed Vitagliano: So you brought up the subject and you want me to explain it.

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, because you're the Bible. Well, I could answer it. Yeah, but I want you to.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. Well, the jealousy of God, I think properly understood is, the. Would be. Could be likened to a husband's jealousy for his wife. That is not petty when, when another man is talking and trying to whisper sweet nothings into her ear. true. in a sense, the God like jealousy is protective, knowing that this individual means to harm your wife and the sanctity of your marriage. And that when the Bible talks about God and God saying, I am jealous, that's what he's saying. He is saying, I am protective of my people. I want to protect you, and I am not going to tolerate anything coming in between us that is going to destroy you. God being destroyed is not possible. But this will destroy you and bring harm to you and I love you. Snake slithers into the backyard where your kids are playing. It is perfectly okay to identify that immediate feeling of protecting your children and wanting to destroy what could harm them as being what the Bible describes as God's jealousy for his people.

>> Steve Jordahl: That's what I was going to say.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Amen.

>> Tim Wildmon: Amen, brother. Ditto.

Steve: Something has changed over the weekend regarding anti ICE protests

All right. You're listening to Today's Issues. That's the name of this show on the American Family Radio Network. I'm M. Tim with Ed and Steve. Next story.

>> Steve Jordahl: Steve, I know you guys spent quite a bit of time this morning talking about this raid, this, protest at the church in Minneapolis. I want to Tell you that my Twitter feed has been filled up with similar type things that haven't been publicized as much. I saw, somebody berating people walking to church was a different church. And this man was using the most vile. Every other word was a, foul, foulest word. And calling them Nazis and white supremacists and how dare they, you know, you know, worshiping. How can you worship with an American flag on your lapel? It was the most vile attack.

>> Tim Wildmon: Where was this?

>> Steve Jordahl: This was, it was in Minneapolis, but a different church. And, these people were walking with their kids, like families walking to church together. And one of the things he said, your dad is a racist is a white supremacist. Anyway, I'm seeing this. I'm also seeing, Andy Nose reporting from Minneapolis. Far left anti ICE protesters beat a white man on the street after he was accused of being right wing. The leftist extremists have been zealously hunting down federal agents and their supporters. So we are seeing, and I saw a whole bunch of pictures of anti ICE protesters with guns. They are ratcheting up the protests and it's getting dangerous. It's getting very dangerous out there. Something has changed over the weekend.

The vast majority of the violence is coming from the left, I think

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, this, we talked about this in the first, hour. In the first segment, really, the, all the violence, the vast majority of the violence. I won't say all the violence. The vast majority of the violence is coming from the left. And it is because, my opinion, it's because of two factors. The left long ago abandoned God. Mr. Del Rico, or whatever his name was, Talarico, Talarico notwithstanding. But by and large, the left has abandoned God and will not allow the Christian faith, for example, to restrain their actions. And instead they have moved to Marxism, which is all about chaos and violence. So I think we're going to continue to see this violence escalate. I am very nervous to hear that they're bringing guns to these things because someone's going to open fire and, and, and ICE is going to respond in kind and innocent people will die. But this is what Marxists do. They don't care if, innocent people die. As the old saying goes, if you're going to make an omelet, you got to break a few eggs. These people are intent on revolution and they don't mind taking violent steps to accomplish that.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, they were sitting. It was a bunch of pictures. I'll send some to you after the show. on cars, but assault rifles they were openly carrying, daring someone to Come and challenge them. So, yeah, I, in my opinion, just looking at my feed and looking at some of the stories, something changed over the weekend. So let's, I'm going to keep an eye on that. We'll bring that in if you want.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.

President Trump says he will secure exclusive broadcast window for Army Navy game

>> Steve Jordahl: there is, let's, let's, let's stop here. I know you guys, you talked about the Trump, Norway thing. I have something that Donald Trump is going to write an executive order on. It's a little less serious, but I still don't know how he's going to do it. The President said that he is going to issue an executive order that will secure an exclusive four hour broadcast window in December for the Army Navy football game where no other postseason games will be allowed in the time slot. So I guess he's installing himself as a commissioner of both the NFL and college football.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Now. What is his reason for doing this? Because we're saying he's going to do this.

>> Steve Jordahl: Army Navy game is an important game. I guess he says it's,

>> Tim Wildmon: You want to know? Yes, because I know the answer to that question. Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, I do.

>> Tim Wildmon: But it might just bore our listeners.

>> Ed Vitagliano: They're used to that.

>> Tim Wildmon: They tune out. Okay. So the college football playoffs may expand to 16 teams, which means another Saturday. You follow me?

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: That Saturday would have to be by necessity the Saturday of the Army Navy game, which is usually held the first Saturday after all the playoff, all the conference, champions. Everything's done in college football. It's a dead period, a dead week. So, that's what he's talking about, I think, is he's talking about protecting that Saturday during that time slot for the Army Navy game, which is a great tradition in American, in American life.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: It is Army Navy football game, which I don't disagree with him on that. I think this is just, him, speaking his wishes, because he does. The President used, and Trump did this time. He went to that game in Philadelphia. It is a special spectacle. So I don't blame him for doing what he just did right there. Although I don't think it holds any, any, real, real authority.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, like, like I've seen a meme that said it has a picture of Army Navy at the line of scrimmage, you know, says these are, these are men who are willing to give their lives for the people watching the game.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Now I do think that soon President Trump will announce that he's moving the Army Navy gameplay to Greenland.

>> Steve Jordahl: Trouble.

>> Tim Wildmon: I do think that's on the horizon, so watch for that. Okay?

>> Steve Jordahl: I'm doing that.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we'll see you tomorrow, everybody. Take care. Keep listening to afr.