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Tim Wildman: American Family Association plans spiritual heritage tours in 2026

>> Tim Wildmon: Hello, everyone. I'm Tim Wildmon, president of American Family association and American Family Radio. Hey, the tours we've got planned in 2026 are going to be fantastic. They're historical spiritual heritage tours. For the information all about them, the DC, the Williamsburg, the Boston tours, go to wildmangroup.com w I l d m o n group.com and we hope to see you on one of our 2026 spiritual heritage tours.

Welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network

>> Jeff Chamblee: Welcome to Today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Today's Tuesday, January 20, 2026. And as always, we thank you for listening to AFR. Joining me in studio is Wesley Wyoma. Good morning, Wesley.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: Chris Woodward.

>> Chris Woodward: Good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: And joining me, not in the studio in Florida is, Ray Pritchard. How you doing, brother Ray?

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, Tim, I'm doing great. How are you doing today?

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, everything's good here. well, now we have been getting, I know you don't care about this in, in central Florida, although it's been chilly there, right.

>> Tim Wildmon: This morning it was 27 degrees. Not wind chill, but 27 degrees. And that's like down below zero up north. It's really, really. Let me just say this, Tim. As we. I've said before, I do not receive this.

>> Tim Wildmon: You go full charismatic on us.

>> Tim Wildmon: I do not receive this cold weather at all.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, that's when iguanas start falling from trees.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's exactly right. When, if you're out walking and I was looking up in the trees today a little bit just to make sure nothing hit me on the head.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, because that's what happens. The iguanas, they free. They don't die necessarily, but they freeze up and they don't know, they get shocked, because the coat, they're not.

>> Wesley Wildmon: You know, stiff and start falling. You know, I kind of got my m. You know, you, you, you ask for something and then you get it. You go, no, I really don't. Well, I actually was. I got three or four of these fleece shirts, long sleeve shirts for Christmas, and I looked at them when I got them. And if we remember, for those in the south, it was about 73, 4 or 5 degrees. 70.

>> Tim Wildmon: Christmas?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, around 70 degrees around Christmas time. And I got him. I was like, well. And I was like, it would be nice to be able to work those out before it gets summertime. Or springtime here. And that's here we go. Weeks.

There's a winter storm warning for much of the South this weekend

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, okay, so, I will say this. We have been told, is this going.

>> Wesley Wildmon: To be your one complaint about the weather and then, you know, cold weather.

>> Tim Wildmon: The older you get, I don't know what happens to you. You become a weather watcher, right?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes sir.

>> Tim Wildmon: Of course. That's the reason. And people who don't want to watch the weather anymore do. Like Ray and Marlene did they just move to Florida?

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: And they say, I don't care. January, I don't care. If it gets to 27 tomorrow it's back up to 70.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: So, but I'm looking ahead at the forecast and this is for much of the South. the people in the, our friends and brothers and sisters in the upper Midwest and the north, they, they don't care what I'm. They don't care. They don't care about what I'm talking about. They just laugh.

>> Tim Wildmon: They just don't.

>> Tim Wildmon: They just don't care. They just don't care. although they did have a seriously a, major pile up in Michigan I think yesterday. And then like 100 car pile up. You see this right on the Internet?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Did, yeah, 100 car pile up. I don't know how many people were hurt. Hopefully nobody. But that was very tragic news to read about. But what I'm saying is in all seriousness, there's a winter storm warning for all the way from Texas all the way over to I guess the Carolinas this weekend. And it says on the Saturday for where we live here in northeast Mississippi, it's saying, here's, here's exact thing from the Weather Channel. Okay. It says watching a potential winter storm, expect periods of freezing rain. 100% chance. 27 degrees is the high. So when I read that, and I don't, I think that they don't want to tell us how bad it's going to be. That's what I mean when I say watching a potential winter storm and then they don't give any more details yet. I'm thinking we can't tell these rednecks how bad this is going to be. They will, they will totally freak out here on Tuesday.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And, and they, and the weather's not even going to happen till Right.

>> Chris Woodward: I have already seen local news reports and post on social media about how people are getting bread and milk. Because for those that have yet to visit the south where we live, anytime we hear snow or ice there's always a run on bread and milk.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: and eggs too. So I guess they think Oreos, if it freezes, you know. You know, if you're going to go down in a freeze, you need to have cold cereal. You know, that's. That's. I think that's the model. But anyway, I'll just say this. we don't know, Monday we may not be at the office, and man be it, we're having to make contingency plans. It's going to be that bad. Again, this is a swath, looks like to me, of, And listen, I love snow personally. It's so. It's beautiful and we rarely get it. So if you live where you rarely get snow and it's so pretty, the sea, you. you know, I don't. We don't mind that. But you talking freezing rain, I've seen those storms before, and that's when the pine trees start snapping, like. And it sounds like a war zone. You've been around that, right?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, exactly what it sounds like.

>> Tim Wildmon: And power lines start falling down everywhere and trees are in the road. I mean, it's a complete and total disaster. Was. If you get that. If you get freezing rain for a few hours, it can be, And then you can't drive, you can't go anywhere, and the power goes out. It's bad.

Ore: We have a potential winter storm coming this weekend

>> Chris Woodward: What did you guys do, in 1994, when we had the. The epic. People still talk about it. Ice storm where we live. Were you guys on the air? I wasn't here.

>> Tim Wildmon: We were on the air. Yeah, we were on the air. I can't remember exactly. Now, we do have generator backup for our network, so if the power goes out here in Tupelo, where we are, we do have a. We're ready for it in terms of our AFR signal. but I'm just saying, as far as our staff goes, you know, the people are going to be trapped at home.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: but, so we'll see what happens there. And also, you got, you know, from Texas all the way to the Carolinas, you're talking about, Kentucky, and you're talking about, a lot of people who aren't, used to. Used to that kind of. Used to those kind of conditions where you can. You, know, you don't have plows, for example, to get out on the roads and clear them or anything like that. But if you get a couple inches of ice, that's just, That's just a Big, big mess and it's dangerous. So we'll see what happens here. Hopefully it doesn't get that bad, but.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, that's what it's looking like when.

>> Tim Wildmon: They say 100% chance and free and you got participation. precipitation, they say freezing rain up.

>> Wesley Wildmon: To 3 inches as of now. That's what it's.

>> Tim Wildmon: I just say three rain. We just.

>> Tim Wildmon: Nobody's moving. Nobody.

>> Tim Wildmon: You could just say goodbye to the South. I mean it's over. We'll maybe be back in May, who knows?

>> Tim Wildmon: See you in May.

>> Tim Wildmon: See you in May. but, but it's going to be bad.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well look, look, it's, it's Tuesday, friends. And if you're between Texas and the Carolinas, and that's a big swath of the country, right?

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Oh it is.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'd make that Walmart run today.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. Oh yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Don't wait till Thursday, don't wait till Friday. Bread and milk going to be gone by then.

>> Chris Woodward: And you know the the bizarre thing about this. So we, we have this potential storm coming in and it looks like we're gonna have it. Oh yeah, well I'm still saying potential because we have not there yet. So we have this forecast.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.

>> Chris Woodward: Okay. And then the weird thing is just because of how weather is in the south, we will have a day or two before Valentine's Day where it's like shorts weather.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, that's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, it's whiplash. But you look at this swath I'm talking about here, you're talking about extending from like West Texas all the way over to as I say, up into the Carolinas and in Virginia it appears like that's coming for this, that's coming this weekend, damaging ice, heavy snow, so I'm looking.

>> Wesley Wildmon: At this weather, called underground weather. Underground. And if you look around 8 o' clock on Friday night, as of now, where we live, where we live here in Chupela, Mississippi, Northeast Mississippi, from about 8 o' clock Friday night till about 10 o' clock Sunday morning, it's wall to wall.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Some kind of precipitation. Anyway, so needless to say folks need to put their wraps on their pipes especially.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: For your last thing you need during a winter storm is your pipes to burst. So. And also take care, I know people know this already but look after the elderly and the shut ins, and people who need to be prepared to take care of their pets. There's a lot of things to consider if you think you may be without power and you can't go anywhere for, like, three days, that kind of thing is what I'm saying. Campbell soup.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Like I said, I mentioned Oreos.

>> Tim Wildmon: Campbell's soup and Oreos.

>> Tim Wildmon: I will say you could survive a, country boy. Can't survive.

>> Chris Woodward: I looked it up. It's on the Internet.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so what's on the Internet?

>> Chris Woodward: there is a gram of protein in every two Oreos. So if you eat, like, 34 Oreos, you've gotten 17 grams.

>> Tim Wildmon: Food.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, it's a survival food.

>> Chris Woodward: Do it for the protein.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, okay. Well, I think Campbell's soup's probably a little more nutritious.

>> Chris Woodward: Got a lot of. You need that sodium in your life.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I don't believe any of the nutritional stuff, but go ahead.

>> Tim Wildmon: You think that's all just made up?

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's it.

Indiana Hoosiers won college football national championship last night in Miami

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. All right, well, we got a lot of, depressing news to talk about today, and we're going to get to that in just a moment.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: But before we do, let me just, throw out a, congratulations to the Indiana Hoosiers. They won the, college football national championship last night in Miami. There was no freezing rain in Miami. And, completed a. Ray completed a historic 16 and oh, or 16 and 0. season. It's never been done before because they'd never played that many games before. 16 and. Oh. regular season. Did you watch the, game?

>> Tim Wildmon: Watched every second of it. And, hey, props to Miami.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: I actually thought that Indiana would win by five touchdowns because that's what they. Oregon. Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: And in Alabama.

>> Tim Wildmon: And Alabama. So I thought it was going to be blowout, a blowout, and it was not. So props to Miami for hanging in there. And I got to say. I got to say, Tim, the play of the. The play of the game. The play of the year was that I don't. Third down call near the, near the goal line.

>> Tim Wildmon: Fourth down.

>> Tim Wildmon: Fourth quarter. Fourth down.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: They gave the ball to Mendoza, huh? And he makes that. He's not a natural runner, right? I mean, he's not a running quarterback. And he got it into the end zone. That spin move at the end, that was an incredible call.

>> Tim Wildmon: It was like something out of a movie. It's four down and five. Do you got. You got to play.

>> Chris Woodward: We do have the audio. Yeah. Steve, cut this for us. It is. Clip. eight. The eight.

>> Wesley Wildmon: He's gonna take off and run. Mendoza weaves his way first and go diving toward the end zone.

>> Tim Wildmon: Touchdown. Well, that's when I knew God wanted Indiana to win.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: When you watch that play because, you talk about pulling back your Superman cape, that Fernando Mendoza, who is a Christian young man and he's quick to give glory to God. He didn't say God causes me to win, but he just says, glory to God. So it's congratulations to, Indiana and, whoever thought Indiana Hoosiers would ever win national championship.

>> Chris Woodward: That's where I was going here. I shared this on our Facebook page. There's a quote from Coach Signetti, the Indiana coach. He said, quote, we won the national championship at Indiana University. It can be done. People that don't, realize this, he took over a program there with a nation leading 713 losses.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: And turned it into the game's biggest winner in the span of two years. Tim, I got to tell you, if you graduated from a baseball school that competes in other sports like I did, Indiana's win gives you hope in football.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Yeah, they do. They really did. What a. What a storybook. there'll be, There'll be. There'll be books and movies about this, about this team, the, the Indiana Hoosiers. Not in basketball.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, but it's a, it's an interesting. Vanderbilt was good at football this year again. I mean, so it's not what it used to be.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. All right, well, yeah, to not see Ohio State, Alabama or Georgia in the national championship game, is shocking, quite frankly. All right, you're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim, welcome. Wesley, Chris and Ray.

Today marks one year since President Donald Trump reentered office

All right, Chris, what's leading the, news?

>> Chris Woodward: Well, it's hard to believe it, but President, Donald Trump has been back in office now for one whole year.

>> Tim Wildmon: One year since the inauguration.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes. He reentered office one year ago.

>> Tim Wildmon: We went up for the inauguration. A lot of our. A lot of folks here. We went up for the, presidential inauguration a year ago, and it was so bitterly cold that they canceled it.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yep.

>> Tim Wildmon: well, they canceled the outside ceremony and they moved it into the US Capitol.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So limited seating and us being able to be there. But we were there for the watch party.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, we watched on TV like a lot of Americans. But anyway, I didn't realize. So today is the day, the anniversary day. Okay.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Gotcha.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Now, you know, it was like three years, though, right?

>> Chris Woodward: So, people are on television today talking about, you know, Donald Trump being back in. It's been a year now. One of the people that was on Fox this morning is a lady named Elizabeth Pipko, she's the founder of an organization called Lest People Forget, and she is a former GOP national spokeswoman. she says in a bureaucracy where nothing ever seems to get done, President Trump did get a lot done. and very quickly. Clip 3 He definitely did.

>> Speaker G: And I think you said it best. Right? It's not just that he's the most consequential president of our lifetimes. It's the fact that even Democrats will admit to that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Speaker G: I would argue that he's the best president of our lifetimes. But even Democrats have to admit he has done more than any president before him and he's done more of what he promised, which we never see when it comes to elected officials. I mean, the list goes on and on and on. You mentioned securing the border. That's after tens of millions, of course, mostly unvetted were allowed into our country, causing damage probably for many years to come. Think about the tariff and the trade reform, signing of the one big beautiful bill. Think about the Middle east cease fire and all those, you know, global peace efforts that he started in the first administration and got to continue on in this one, reshaping our national security. Truly, the list goes on and on and on. And this is why he was elected, because people knew he was actually going to do what he said he was going to do on that campaign trail.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, we remember, following the inauguration, well, the day of the inauguration, we were all sitting around, some of us even missing some of the actual, inauguration because we were getting all of the executive orders that were being released. And you could tell right away that they were far more organized this time around. They mean in the Trump administration, they were more organized, more prepared, and just far more active this go around than they were their first, his first term. And you can see the consequence. That is a good point. What was her name?

>> Chris Woodward: Elizabeth Pipko.

>> Wesley Wildmon: she made a good point that regardless of whether you fall, where you fall on the political side, as far as doing actions of things that you said you were going to do, President Trump and his administration has done more of what they said they were going to do than previous presidents. Whether you agree or disagree, basically he's not just sitting around, or just checking boxes. He's proactive in a lot of ways. If you look at what, he's.

>> Tim Wildmon: Donald Trump's never sat around since he was 2 years old.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's true.

>> Tim Wildmon: He doesn't sit around.

>> Wesley Wildmon: He doesn't sit around. And they're far more proactive, this time around, Just, I mean, just taking one of the high points, just one as an example, what he's done in deporting illegal, illegal immigrants, and specifically illegal, immigrants who are criminals, who have a criminal record in the United States. What he's done on that front alone is in less and, well, right at a year now. And what he's capable of doing in the next three years is, again, very remarkable. Regardless of whether you're disagree with what he's doing. He's, he's doing something.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

Wesley: President Trump's first year has been remarkable. It has been a remarkable year

Ray, your thoughts on one year of Donald Trump's.

>> Tim Wildmon: It has been a remarkable year. And Wesley, to your point, if you compare the first year of the first term to the first year of this second term, it is, it's night and day in the first year. they didn't know what they were doing exactly. He didn't have the right team in place. He didn't have the right, he couldn't get things done the first time around. They came in laser focused and as you said, that blizzard of executive orders that came out on the first day. And, and in a sense, it reminds me of, I know of a fellow who became president of a college, and, he'd never done it before, and he asked for some advice and a wise person said, well, here's my advice on your very first day. Start running as fast as you possibly can and then gradually pick up the pace. That's sort of what President Trump has done here in this second term. They came out guns blazing, so to speak. They came out running fast, and they have picked up the pace during these last 12 months. And I think the howls that you can hear coming from the far extreme liberal left who thought that President Trump might just sail or sleep through, but that was Joe Biden.

>> Jenna Ellis: Mr.

>> Tim Wildmon: Trump came out and he has made things happen to. Do we always agree? No, we certainly don't always agree, but, he has proved to be very consequential in this first year. Congratulations, Mr. President.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. Does it, I got to tell you, from like a news perspective, with all the things that we've talked about, all the things that we've brought into this show, it feels like he's been in office three years.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah. It's a lot, you know, with President Trump, there's always a lot going on. so you're listening to Today's Issues on American Family Radio. Tim, Chris, Wesley, and Ray. And now President Trump is, he was at the national championship game last night. Sure was in, Miami. And now he's headed to, Europe.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. he's m. Going to Davos, where he's going to talk about a number of things from us economic policies, his plan to make housing more affordable, and the speech everybody is watching for, President Trump's continued push to acquire Greenland. President Trump is says, we got to have it for national security purposes. We're gonna get it. and so everybody's kind of watching that speech there to figure out what he's going to say to Davos tomorrow.

>> Tim Wildmon: this is, at once comical and extremely serious.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. this could ruin Trump's presidency, in my opinion. This is my opinion. Okay, so people may disagree, and that's fine. We're not talking about the Bible here. Come up politics. And, and, but if, if, if President Trump continues yet this. Today, he released a meme.

>> Chris Woodward: I'll post it for you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. And the meme had him, and I guess Vice President Vance and Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, sticking a US Flag in the ground in Greenland. And what did it say, Chris?

>> Chris Woodward: Oh, let me dig it up. Carry on.

>> Tim Wildmon: I thought you had it. And we're posting it.

>> Chris Woodward: Oh, I'm in the process of digging. I'm sharing it.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know what it says, Ray? I had, I sent it around.

>> Tim Wildmon: no. does it say 51st state or something like that?

>> Tim Wildmon: I got it right here. It says Greenland, US territory established 2026.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes, yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. By comical and extremely serious is what the reaction I just got from you, Ray. You're laughing, right? And we all. And people laugh when they see this. But, but this is, But President Trump is not kidding, okay? Evidently, unless he's playing the world here. And, he might be, but he posted a, meme. It's got him with a US Flag advance and Rubio, and it says, it's like when the man landed on. We, landed on the moon and the astronaut got out.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Put the US Flag in the ground, you know, I'm talking about. So, Wesley, let me ask you this. Do you understand what I'm saying about this could potentially ruin his presidency or, you don't see that?

>> Wesley Wildmon: No, I think it could. If it plays out the way that you've mentioned, it could at times, I think the worst possible case scenario, I think it could, which would be boots on the ground and invasion and you're taking over and you're seizing boats and all the fishing boats. And the way that you've tongue in cheek said it, however, I don't Think any of that's going to take place? trolling them. Does it look good? This is Trump. He's been doing it. No, probably not. I think it's funny, but then again, I think we'll. I don't think it's a good call for the president. The bottom. For me, the bottom line is I like to see things like this play out because we got five years of Donald Trump, President Trump, doing this type of stuff, and ultimately we end up happy with everything he ends up doing when it's all said and done, even if we don't like the middle, for example, Iran being bombed. Great. You know, nuclear. So I think. I don't know. I think if we. I'm more of a wait and see with Donald Trump at this point as opposed to trying to defend them, so.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we'll be back momentarily.

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I got my thoughts on this interior.

>> Wesley Wildmon: America wage, and we want to hear that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Well, that's. That's why I'm here. And I will, I'll be glad to share my heart.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, you do that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ed's not here today to ask me to share my heart.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. Would you share your heart?

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm gonna share my heart. Okay.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I don't know your feelings.

>> Tim Wildmon: I have feelings. Be back in a minute.

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Jenna Ellis joins us to discuss Today's Issues on American Family Radio

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim, Wesley, Chris and Ray. And, now we're joined. Jenna Ellis joins us. Jenna is on afr. As you know, if you listen regularly each morning from 7 to 8 o' clock Central time with the Jenna Ellis in the Morning program, which brings you up to speed, but whatever has happened the last 24 hours and current events. And, Jenna also, analyzes a lot of issues from a biblical worldview perspective and writes for us too, as well. Good morning, Jenna.

>> Jenna Ellis: Good morning. Yeah. And, we've been covering a lot this week. There's always something going on in the headlines that, we need to analyze from a biblical worldview.

>> Tim Wildmon: And that's good. From a talk show perspective, right?

>> Jenna Ellis: It is, actually, yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: You need something to talk about, right?

>> Jenna Ellis: Well, I can always talk about something. Even if the news was boring. My mom could tell you, and my best friend here, Hannah, could tell you. You know, we, spend a lot of time just talking about a lot of things, but, you know, there are a lot of what we would call evergreen topics in theology, culture, biblical worldview that, you know, we'll always, we'll always fill an hour for sure.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, let's go wrap up this conversation.

Chris: President Trump is headed to Davos tomorrow to speak on tariffs

You may or may not want to weigh in, although with what you just described, I'm sure you will weigh in, on the topic that is, President Trump is headed to Greene, Davos. He's probably gonna stop in Greenland. Take it.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I thought you did that on purpose.

>> Chris Woodward: I took it.

>> Tim Wildmon: I didn't. That was a slip. I don't know if it's Freudian or not, but it was a slip of some kind. but, I said, Jenna, in all seriousness, you know, President Trump trolls, and he's.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And he gets. It gets you worked up a little bit.

>> Tim Wildmon: Troller in chief. Well, a lot of times it's funny. I mean, we all, you know, people laugh at his antics and the things that he says and does because that's just kind of who he is. And, so. But you never quite know whether to take him.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Seriously or not on a lot of issues. And in this case, I said, and I'm m. Serious about this, okay? He, he threatens his own administration, and he may not. Again, I don't know who talks to President Trump. And he listens to him. Maybe Susie, Wiles, or maybe Rubio and Vance. I don't know exactly. But this janitor, this idea of militarily taking over Greenland is a terrible, terrible idea and will ruin his presidency if he does it.

>> Jenna Ellis: I agree. And, you know, I posted on social media that I think that Trump needs to. To just offer to trade Minnesota for Greenland. That's. That would actually solve all of our problems.

>> Tim Wildmon: Our listeners living out in the hinterland there, and we have a lot of them. Maybe they don't want to be lumped in with the, No, I think Minneapolis St. Paul. But, that was very funny. You did troll yourself right there. Go ahead.

>> Jenna Ellis: I did, actually.

>> Tim Wildmon: What you gonna say, Wesley?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, I was just gonna add, I've been around our listeners and supporters all across the country, some that live in far, far, deep blue states, and they would agree with this.

>> Tim Wildmon: Like, when you, when you talk to our friends who listen to us in.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Illinois, what are the first thing they say? They don't even say. They don't introduce themselves. They don't say, we go, we've been listening to y' all for 20. The first thing they say is, hey, I just want to let you know we have nothing to do with Chicago. We have absolutely nothing. That's their introduction. And then we get in.

>> Tim Wildmon: We live in the real Illinois.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: The real land of Lincoln.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: So, Yeah, but that is true. Right, but. But anyway, in all seriousness, I don't know what President Trump is going to say, today. Is he going to. Is his speech tomorrow?

>> Chris Woodward: It is tomorrow, yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: And where is this mythical Davos place? Is, this, like, I say mythical. I mean, before. This is a place where the, where the world leaders go, economic leaders do. They meet once a year. Is this Switzerland? Austria. Where is this?

>> Chris Woodward: It's in the Eastern Alps of Switzerland. It's where the hills are alive with the sound of music.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's actually Austria, Chris, but, same.

>> Chris Woodward: Part of the world. You made a good point.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but. But I understand what you're saying. So, he's going to go. President Trump's going to go speak over there. But I just. That, that. You know what, that is going to be very important, speech, Jenna, because he's already said he's going to slap Europe with tariffs if, any NATO member disagrees with, with the US Conquering, Greenland. so, I don't know where you're going to go with this, because Europe, by the way, I've read this. I'm no economic expert, but if Europe were to combine their efforts to slap back at Trump's tariffs on them, which I believe this is A terrible misuse of tariffs, by the way. This is not a national emergency. and so, and I don't know what, when, when the Supreme Court is ever going to rule. They're supposed to have ruled on tariffs.

>> Chris Woodward: They didn't rule today, so that's not going to happen today.

>> Tim Wildmon: I do believe the tariffs, are constitutional.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm not. But, you're supposed to.

>> Jenna Ellis: They may prevent them from instituting more.

>> Tim Wildmon: But it kind of scares me too, that one man can just wield that much economic power to slap tariffs on countries around the world at his whimsical. Do we really want that?

>> Jenna Ellis: I mean, yeah, I don't think that was what the founders anticipated and why they separated.

I hope Trump backs off this Greenland thing, from optics standpoint

>> Tim Wildmon: On the issue of tariffs you're talking about.

>> Jenna Ellis: Yes, on the issue of tariffs, you know, and why a lot of this is statutorily, you know, supposed to be left up to a deliberative body, that represents all of the United States. And that isn't just, ah, you know, one president and one whim. I mean, obviously you need a chief executive so that you can respond to certain things in national interests on a dime, you know, but not necessarily something like this. And, you know, and just optics wise, you know, this push for Greenland seems to be sort of this like, odd pet project that, you know, there, there may be some people that are, you know, for, some of these incentives and, you know, some of these reasons. But when you have genuinely what's going on right now in Minneapolis and you have, what just happened with the church being invaded by protesters in St. Paul on Sunday, and you have the DOJ literally just going, well, Don Lemon, who, who was part of this terrorist group, by the way, under the auspices of being a journalist, when, you know, the DOJ is just saying, well, he's been put on notice and there's an investigation and it's like, okay, well, when are you actually going to do something instead of having your deputy, AG going on media and just talking about it and these sort of outrage letters, it's like, why is Trump focusing on Greenland when we have so many problems on the home front? I mean, I just think from an optics perspective, that's a really bad call right now.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I, I just hope he backs off this Greenland thing and, you know, and, and talked, you know, if you want to talk to Denmark and Greenland about, you know, negotiating some kind of agreement where we can have more presence there or do more business there, whatever, do. But do it in a friendly, diplomatic way. Not. We're sending the 82nd Airborne to take over the fishing villages there in, Greenland. It's just. It's ridiculous in my opinion, but that's just my view.

Wesley Bell: Protesters stormed into a Minneapolis church last week

All right, back to this point about talking to Jenna Ellis, what happened in Minneapolis last week. You've talked about that extensively on your program. Who are these people, that went into this? It was a Southern Baptist church there, right? I think it was, yeah.

>> Jenna Ellis: SBC affiliated, according to report.

>> Tim Wildmon: Who were the. How many and who were these protestors that stormed into the worship service?

>> Jenna Ellis: Well, I mean, it looks like at least a couple of dozen based on the videos. And, our friend Meg Basham, who writes for Daily Wire, actually had an article, saying, and the title of it is, a Career Activist who Disrupted the Minneapolis Worship Service, also targeted Pete Hegseth DC Church. So, you know, these are people who are, who are basically professional agitators. And so this wasn't just, you know, some small thing. And you have to wonder, okay, if this is somebody who is a career activist who has a history of this, how did Don Lemon know about it and why was he there getting all of this content and, you know, and pushing, the pastor of this to, you know, say, why are you involved, with ice? I mean, there were so many different questions here, but this looks like it was basically a professional hit job. And so I'd encourage people to go and read that article, in Daily Wire. it's titled Career Activists who Disrupted Minneapolis Worship Service Also Targeted Hegseth DC Church.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, well, I know that it was mentioned that the United States Justice Department could use the FACE Act. Which the, lefties passed many years ago in response to Operation Rescue, I think, or, you know, to the pro lifers who are showing up.

>> Jenna Ellis: Right. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Abortion clinics. but they were, you know, they were using the FACE act, but it also included houses of worship. So a law meant to harm pro life efforts could be flipped to, prosecute these people. you just mentioned who went in disrupting the church service.

>> Jenna Ellis: It could. And my caution and what I've said on, you know, my socials as well as, as. As my show, is that we need to be really careful advocating for a law only when it appears to serve our interests and preferred outcomes. Because for a long time, conservatives, AFA it have been pushing Congress to repeal the FACE act because of how it has targeted pro life Christians, grandmothers, you know, so many instances of its abuse that now even if it is done in, in a way that you Know, we agree that this should be illegal. There are a lot of other statutes. Hermet, Dillon, the deputy AG that went on a lot of this media was actually referring to, the Ku Klux Klan act, that Don Lemon could be charged under, and some of these, other agitators. And there are also just, you know, our simple, state and federal statutes for obstruction, for trespass, you know, for a lot of these other things that we don't even have to necessarily reach the Face Act. And my caution would be conservatives still need to want to, to advocate to repeal that because of how it's been abused. If we keep it on the books and, you know, a leftist Democrat gets back in office, I guarantee you it's going to be weaponized against conservative Christians again. So I am not for the Face Act. If they want to. I mean, it's valid law right now, so if they want to charge them under it, you know, maybe that's an idea, but we really need to be concerned about that.

>> Tim Wildmon: You gonna say Wesley?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. So, I thought, kind of playing devil's advocate here on Christian radio. Yeah, on Christian radio.

>> Tim Wildmon: You need to change that word. Saying something else.

>> Wesley Wildmon: You're making me lose my thought here.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm sorry.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I got a half a thought now. I had a full thought. so you were saying there about the Face act, and I understand from a legal standpoint, your caution, but, that has been in place. It has been weaponized, and it will be weaponized either way. So what would keep us from weaponizing it against the other team when it's going to be weaponized? Whoever's in charge.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Jenna Ellis: And, yeah, I completely agree with that. you know, in terms of how, you know, laws need to be framed, in a way that doesn't allow for weaponization. And, I mean, obviously, the left and the Democrats are going to try to do that, and we saw that prolifically through the Biden administration. But, you know, we need to just be really careful, as I said, for how we advocate and kind of turn on a dime when it seems to fit our preferred purpose.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Understood.

Jenna Bell: What's coming up on your podcast this week

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Jenna, what's coming up, on your podcast this week and what's coming up on your show tomorrow?

>> Jenna Ellis: Yeah, so on our podcast, you know, we're going to do, probably more of a. Of a dive on Minneapolis, and, you know, some of these things that are going on because it seems like there's a lot of misconception right now on a separation of church and state, and somehow Isn't it ironic how, now when the left wants to, to, pretend, you know, that, that churches, shouldn't get involved, now there's, they're suggesting that, you know, these are locations where they can go and do political activism. And so why is it good for the left? But they're, they're being hypocritical on the right. So, you know, looking at some of those things, for this week and, we are going to, also look at having a few people from the great state of Florida on, because our governor's race is really heating up now that the new year has turned. We also want to focus on, you know, where Republicans sit for the midterms. So a lot coming up this week.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. All right, Jenna, take care. Thank you very much.

>> Jenna Ellis: Thank you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, bye. Bye.

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>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, Chris, next story.

Software engineers mistakenly accused of being ICE agents while eating lunch in Minneapolis

>> Chris Woodward: Well, somebody mentioned the word irony a minute ago and there was, an Interesting situation yesterday in the Minneapolis area where a group of software engineers were showered with insults and accused of being pedophiles after they were mistakenly accused of being ICE agents while trying to eat lunch in Minneapolis. The men were all white when that happened? Yes. Well, I mean, that's the thing. Like, it's gonna happen somewhere else or.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Here in a little bit.

>> Chris Woodward: The, the man. I have audio here, but it's got beeps. I'm not gonna play it. the men were all white males and dressed casually in sweatshirts and jackets. and they were eating lunch at a deli when somebody got a message, saying, hey, there's ICE agents at a deli, and a swarm of people show up to shower them with insults.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Do we have a place that we got audio?

>> Chris Woodward: We do have audio.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, no. Oh, I forgot. That's the one. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Yeah, you played that at our, show prep meeting, and it was all beeps. It was all bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep. So we couldn't play it. It's all profanity.

>> Chris Woodward: Trust me. It's.

>> Tim Wildmon: The point is the. How many of them were there?

>> Chris Woodward: Oh, it says a group.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, no, I'm talking about the four engineers.

>> Wesley Wildmon: we're just getting their hamburger.

>> Chris Woodward: How many people showed up or how many engineers?

>> Tim Wildmon: I know.

>> Wesley Wildmon: How many engineers?

>> Tim Wildmon: How many engineers does it take?

>> Chris Woodward: I should know this because I.

>> Tim Wildmon: Went to an engineering story.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: And you said. And I forgotten how many of them went to lunch.

>> Chris Woodward: It says a group. So there's. There's more than two.

>> Tim Wildmon: So a group of engineers went to lunch in Minneapolis, and where did they go for lunch?

>> Chris Woodward: Chris Clancy's Deli.

>> Tim Wildmon: No kidding.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I heard about it.

>> Tim Wildmon: So they're in downtown Minneapolis.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: They go to Clancy's Deli, minding their own business.

>> Chris Woodward: Correct.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. They get a sub. Right. Am I right?

>> Chris Woodward: Maybe soup.

>> Tim Wildmon: Maybe they, got a meatball sandwich or something. And they just want to have lunch because they have. The excitement of having an engineer's job in downtown, Minneapolis in January is so much that they. They probably need a lot of energy. So. But. So the. The ICE protesters. And they're not all geniuses, let's just put it that way. But they. They. They text each other in their group message and say, hey, we've found two. I having lunch down here. Let's swallow the tree. Let's swarm them. and.

>> Fred Jackson: And.

>> Tim Wildmon: And disrupt their lunch because there's no churches having services today.

>> Chris Woodward: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is that what happened?

>> Chris Woodward: Correct.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's exactly what happened.

>> Tim Wildmon: so we got it. We need to go to the deli. So they went to the deli, only to find out that it was a case of mistaken identity. So these guys, these friendly fire engineers are being harassed. They can. They've been misidentified, as I say, what happened.

>> Chris Woodward: And you disrupted not only their life, but the business owner that's probably Democrat and doesn't agree with the Trump administration. You mess that person's business day up as well.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's really disappointing.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I like how you behavior misidentified. We've been. There've been a lot of misidentifying the last 10 years.

>> Tim Wildmon: What do you say to the engineers if you're the ICE protesters? And you realize because they're very apologetic. Yeah. Your group of people, they probably are. They're very, very compassionate people. Do you say. You just say, my bad.

Chris: I don't think ICE protesters are as big crowds as maybe they

Like a bad pass in basketball. My bad. We'll move on out. Sorry, guys.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: I think that they did that.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So in the, in the clip of their life, in the clips that I've seen.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Of the ICE protesters are going against.

>> Tim Wildmon: The engineers simply having lunch.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, I'm just talking about over the last couple of. Oh, they're just looking at, generally speaking, their behavior. They're the ones. The ones that I've seen would say, no, you are an ice age.

>> Tim Wildmon: We don't care. We don't make you an ice age because we need something to do and we'd rather be inside protesting while you're having lunch. So we're going to call you an ice age.

>> Chris Woodward: That's me. what do people in Minneapolis do for a living if you can just show up and protest something every day? I mean, literally from the television footage on even channels, like, you know what I want?

>> Tim Wildmon: I think, I think that you have. I don't know this for a fact. So this is my opinion, two things. One is you have rent a protesters. You do, you have money on the far left. George Soros take money and they rent out. you can rent out protesters. So you need 20. Say, I need 20. Well, you got to pay them. Got to pay them 500 bucks. They're gonna be out in the cold today. We'll call them up, tell them to show up.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: So you got those people, then you, then you. I don't think. I don't think the protesters are as big a crowds as maybe they.

>> Wesley Wildmon: When they come from different states, they.

>> Tim Wildmon: Come from different states.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Even if they're not paid, they're there for the, the movement, the agenda.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, M. And also, I mean, in a place like Minneapolis St. Paul, you do have a lot of lefties because that's a left wing place.

>> Chris Woodward: The reason they're a blue state.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. You know, so, anyway, that's, that's the situation there. I just feel sorry for those engineers. They just wanted their soup and sandwich. taking. They were taking a break.

>> Chris Woodward: We're gonna bring them up on, on charges of freedom of access to Delhi entrances act.

>> Wesley Wildmon: But that, that's my answer. The protesters I've seen that are causing trouble that are. They would say, I don't care, you are one. Just keep going. They would double down that. I couldn't see any of their. The protesters I've seen go. Oh, my bad. We're so sorry, we got this one wrong.

>> Tim Wildmon: Let us. Yeah, they're not going to do that.

>> Jenna Ellis: No.

>> Wesley Wildmon: okay, I can see that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, go ahead, Chris.

Chris: You ought to pay for the lunch. All right, uh, wait, hold on. Ray has not chopped in here. Let me

Next story.

>> Chris Woodward: All right, wait, hold on.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ray has not chopped in here.

>> Chris Woodward: Are you going to a deli?

>> Tim Wildmon: Look, look, it seems to me the least you could do if you misidentify engineers for ice agents. You ought to pay for the lunch. Right?

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, that's why I think, that's the least you can do, you know.

>> Tim Wildmon: Let me get you some soft serve ice cream.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, something. Well, ice cream not so popular right now in Minneapolis.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. All right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Zero degrees.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me, let me pay. Let me pay for the sandwich, your hot cocoa.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah. All right, Chris, what's the next story?

Wesley: There's a difference between Speaker Johnson and President Trump

>> Chris Woodward: Well, all right, so, we've got a first, for House Speaker Mike Johnson. the Congressman from Louisiana is the first speaker to address the British Parliament. So I've got some audio here of Speaker Johnson, talking to our friends across the pond, so to speak. clip one.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Ronald Reagan said, freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected and handed on. And just like all things great civilizations don't defy the laws of gravity. They rise and fall with the individual actions of, of each individual generation. So today, my friends, we have great reason for hope. Today I see the UK with renewed sovereignty and self determination. I see our European allies with an advantage over our adversaries in economic power and most importantly, in spirit. I see younger generations rejecting the indulgence of self interest and embracing pursuits of greater importance in higher purpose.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'll tell you one thing, if Mike Johnson doesn't make it in politics, he's got a voice for radio. He does, I mean, he makes me sound like a 13 year old boy.

>> Tim Wildmon: He's got that, he's got that voice. Got some deep modulation in there.

>> Chris Woodward: Grow up. I want to talk like him on the radio.

>> Tim Wildmon: I can listen to him talk. He's probably outstanding at reading, you know, to his children and grandchildren, you know what I'm saying? They probably listen. But anyway, in all seriousness, I'm glad he got to go over and address the parliament there in great, Britain, on behalf of the United States.

>> Chris Woodward: It was a little more polished than other people, speaking to say names. People like what? Well, you know, President Trump, he's just got a different, he's got a. Listen. President Trump ran for president, probably got elected three times. Okay. So he doesn't care what I think about his speaking style, but there is, there's a difference between the delivery and the tone, between a Johnson and a President Trump.

>> Tim Wildmon: But you're not making a judgment.

>> Chris Woodward: never.

>> Tim Wildmon: Are you, Chris?

>> Chris Woodward: Never. Never.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Observation.

>> Tim Wildmon: Just make an observation.

>> Tim Wildmon: Observation.

>> Tim Wildmon: But I just want to know. I wanted any emails and calls to.

>> Tim Wildmon: Be directed go to Chris, not to.

>> Tim Wildmon: Go to the rest.

>> Chris Woodward: To his, To President Trump's credit, nothing.

>> Tim Wildmon: To do with that statement.

>> Chris Woodward: To President Trump's credit, though, a lot of people that speak the way, Speaker Johnson delivers his messages, they never got anything done. Whereas President Trump clearly, as we began the show, got a lot of stuff done in the first year.

>> Tim Wildmon: And getting yourself out of that hole, are you, Chris, still true?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. My generation's okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Back up. Your generation's okay with what, Wes?

>> Wesley Wildmon: his demeanor and the way he conducts, himself, because we were, we grew up on the George Bushes and those that did everything right in front.

>> Tim Wildmon: Of the camera act like normal human beings.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, they act like normal human beings in front of the camera. They didn't care when they got.

>> Tim Wildmon: What does that get you?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Very literally. It'd be idea to have both. But if you have to pick and choose, I'd rather have a conservative.

>> Tim Wildmon: I got you. President Trump is a NewSong Yorker.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And, a NewSong York business mogul.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And now he can conduct an orchestra like nobody.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: The way he does his hands.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes, yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Do I have him down? You got it the way. Yes.

>> Chris Woodward: Beautiful.

>> Wesley Wildmon: All right, all right, Beautiful segment coming up after this.

>> Tim Wildmon: Good point. Wesley. M. The views and opinions expressed in.

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