Tim Wildman has some great tours lined up for 2026
>> Tim Wildmon: Hello, everyone. Tim Wildmon here. We've got some great tours lined up. 2026, Washington, D.C. george Washington's Mount Vernon, Colonial Williamsburg, historic Jamestown, Boston, Massachusetts, and that Greater area. So, so much to see and do in 2026. If you want information on any of these trips, go to wildmangroup.com wildmon group.com and we'll see you on, one of our tours in 2026.
Tim Wildman: Christians are supposed to be a grateful people
Welcome to today's Issues, offering a Christian.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Response to the issues of the day.
>> Tim Wildmon: Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association. Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network for this Wednesday, January 14, 2026. Ah, I'm Tim Wildmon, and joining me in studio is Ed Vitagliano. Good morning, brother Ed.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Good morning, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: And Fred Jackson.
>> Fred Jackson: Hi there, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're my brother, too, Fred. we were brothers in Christ. Right? Amen.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Amen.
>> Tim Wildmon: The trio. so thank you for listening to American Family Radio. We appreciate it very, very much. We don't take our listeners for granted most of the time. I guess there are times we all take each other for granted. Right. We shouldn't. And we don't take our listeners for granted.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Absolutely. Absolutely not.
>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, what's wrong with taking people for granted? Ed, what would you say with us?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, it reflects a spirit of ingratitude. If you're grateful for what, your listeners have, praying for the ministry, supporting the ministry, acting when we say, hey, let's call so and so, you're grateful for that. And if you take them for granted, that means I, don't. I'm not thankful for.
>> Tim Wildmon: For that deep and thoughtful answer.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This is what my wife tells me when she says, you're taking me for granted.
>> Tim Wildmon: Me for granted.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm just kidding. You're taking me for granted. You're not grateful for all I do for you.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, well, we don't want to take anybody for granted.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Especially our wives. Amen.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Christians are supposed to be a grateful people.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. Amen.
Fred Kaplan: Abraham Hamilton III will be on with us at bottom of hour
All right. a lot to talk about, which, as I, say, is a good thing, because this here is a talk show, so nothing to talk about. We would now return you to our regularly scheduled music. All right, let's see. Abraham Hamilton III will be on with us at the bottom of the hour. Abe is, our colleague here. He is a constitutional attorney, and we got questions to ask. And he told me we would not be on the clock. Right. Is that what they Call it in the, in the lawyer. Lawyer field, you know what I'm saying? Where they charge you per hour.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Do they say on the clock?
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't think they own the clock. It's another expression they use. Yeah, they turn the clock on charging you when you ask a question. You know what I'm saying?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hourly rates. Yeah, whatever they call them in the lawyer field. Something.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know. But he said, not an attorney,
>> Tim Wildmon: But he works with us and he salaried. And he said, you can. He's not going to worry about.
>> Ed Vitagliano: In other words, you don't just call up your lawyer and say, hey, I just got a question about this.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, then you get a bill.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You got a bill for that bill.
>> Tim Wildmon: For 27 minutes or, whatever the case may be. Prorated.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. Lot to talk about. What's the first story, Fred?
Supreme Court hears arguments on bans on biological boys playing on girls teams
>> Fred Jackson: Well, speaking of things legal, a big, big day yesterday at the United States Supreme Court. They heard argum from people who are opposed to bans that are in several states now about biological boys playing on girls teams. And, this is a big one. the speculation this morning is, is that the United States Supreme Court, perhaps by a narrow margin, will uphold those bans in various states like Idaho, West Virginia, and many other states that keeps boys from competing on girls teams. You know, it seems pretty simple to most of us. There are males and there are females and there is nothing in between. And that, I think what prompted a question yesterday from Justice Samuel Alito to an ACLU lawyer, Kathleen Harnett, who's representing a transsexual from Idaho. He asked a very basic question and she gave a very convoluted answer. Cut number. What does it mean to be a.
>> Tim Wildmon: Boy or a girl or a man or a woman? We do not have a definition for the court. What we're saying is that the way it applies in practice is to exclude birth sex males categorically from women's teams and that there's a subset of those birth sex males where it doesn't make.
>> Fred Jackson: Sense to do so according to the state's own interest.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, how can you. How can a court determine whether there's.
>> Fred Jackson: Discrimination on the basis of sex without.
>> Tim Wildmon: Knowing what sex means for equal protection purposes?
>> Fred Jackson: And that was at the crux of it yesterday. Did you notice what she said? we don't have a definition for you, Justice Alito. Of, course she doesn't.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that kills her argument.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, it does. So she talks about a subset. Now, what was she meaning by that?
>> Tim Wildmon: Subset of what?
>> Fred Jackson: Well, there's a. She would argue a subset of biological males, or like the left likes to say, the sex assigned at birth. Assigned at birth. there's a subset that, transition into being women because they feel that way.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, I want to hear that exchange again. Who's asking the question? Who's answering it?
>> Fred Jackson: It's Justice Alito asking the question. The response comes from Kathleen Harnett. She's an ACLU lawyer representing a trans person of Idaho. What does it mean to be a.
>> Tim Wildmon: Boy or a girl or a man or a woman? We do not have a definition for the court. What we're saying is that the way it applies in practice is to exclude birth sex males categorically from women's teams and that there's a subset of those birth sex males where it doesn't make.
>> Fred Jackson: Sense to do so according to the state's own interest.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, how can you.
>> Fred Jackson: How can a court determine whether there's discrimination on the basis of sex without.
>> Tim Wildmon: Knowing what sex means for equal protection purposes? All right, I don't know how she answered that. You notice she said, we're not. We don't have a definition. And then she went on to say, something about males.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Birth sex males.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well, I would say stop right there. Yeah, that male word you use, what does that mean?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, what does that mean?
>> Tim Wildmon: What does that mean? the other thing I would have asked her, and I don't know if I didn't listen to the whole, exchange between the attorney for attorney, attorneys for the aclu, who representing this transgendered person, and the, Supreme Court justices. But I would. I would have asked her, are you a man or a woman, ma'? Am? I would say, are you a male or female? And see what she say answers that. How. How do you think she would answer that?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I have no idea. Because as we're. As we're discussing here, by the way, folks, we are going to have at the bottom of the hour, Abraham Hamilton III on, to further discuss this. So we'll get a billable hours. Steve Jordal texted me and said billable hours. because you can't. You have to keep going backwards to define word. You can't talk about this issue without using preconceived ideas that we've all agreed upon for thousands of years, which are, scientific fact.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Which are scientific fact. So if the ACLU ACLU lawyer answered, well, your honor, I identify as a female, then the next question is, well, and what is that? That you're identifying at right as. And listen, if there's no such thing, if you can't get a definition of gender, then why does a person have to transition? What does transition mean?
>> Tim Wildmon: Right? Just wake up and say, hey, I'm changing.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If you, if you're, if you're transitioning. I'm not saying this is possible, but this is what they say. If you're transitioning from male to female, you've got to be changing from one thing to another. And we want to know what the one thing is and what the other thing is.
>> Tim Wildmon: And they won't, they won't define that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And if you can't do that, there's no change going on.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right, right. This, this decision will not be announced until June. But let me just re, state what this is about. There are I don't know how many states, 20 maybe. Think in that ballpark red states that have passed laws that define male and female for the purposes of sports and athletic competition so that they're separated as they always have been, number one, because of the unfairness of it all. And males competing against females is completely and totally unfair. secondly, you have the privacy issues which are just as important. That is you don't want 15 year old girls having to go in the locker room with a 15 year old dude who says he's a girl. or the showers for example. I mean they're going to have same access if they say, you know, that you can, you can identify as a, as a girl. And So also this doesn't have anything to do with this particular case.
Supreme Court to rule on whether transgender women can participate in girls sports
But you also have males now saying they're females so that they can get put into the female prison population.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And don't go out to go out, go in prison with the males even though they're male, but they say they're females. So they can get. Anyway, that's happening too, but that's separate from this particular question. So the decision Supreme Court has to answer, is this constitutional or not? What these red states have done to forbid males, from competing with girls.
>> Fred Jackson: One more interesting point from yesterday's arguments which by the way went on for about three and a half hours. this from Justice Brett Kavanaugh. He was responding to some of the comments from the left that hey, having a biological male who says the claims that they're female, it doesn't really have an impact on girls sports in this country. Like listen to what Justice Kavanaugh had to say. Cut one.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Obviously one of the great successes in America over the last 50 years has been the growth of women and girls sports. Some states in the federal government and the NCAA and the Olympic committee think that allowing transgender women and girls to participate will undermine or reverse that amazing success for the individual girl who does not make the team or doesn't get on the stand for the medal or doesn't make all league, there's a harm there.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, no kidding. they don't make the Olympic team, they don't get the scholarship at a university.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, and let me just add, too, the problem with where we are as a country in terms of the judiciary, the judicial branch of government, is that now we can ask Abe this question. He would know the answer better than I do. I'm not an attorney, but my understanding of our constitution is that our founders expected that legislatures would make this decision. Okay? So if the ACLU is arguing that there's not enough girls, there aren't enough girls who are harmed by transgender women participating in girls sports, and the court rules in favor of them, I would say that is not a judicial question. The legislatures are given the authority to make these kinds of rulings. If the legislature wants to say, one girl impacted, like we're just listening to Kavanaugh, One girl impacted is enough to. To pass the law, then that should be sufficient. But instead, what we have are judges who say, no, I'm going to act as the legislature, and I'm going to say, no, you got to have 10 women or you got to have 100 women, or you can't pass the law. And that's the problem that we've gotten to. The Supreme Court shouldn't even be looking at this issue because no federal district judge should have ever ruled on this kind of stuff. Yeah, it's not. It's not their job to rule on these kinds of issues. That's the product that should be the legislature. Or you pass a constitutional amendment, you amend the constitution, and you. And you create a category of people like the 13th, 14th, 15th amendment did for black people.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. Also, we'll just wrap this up boot. Talk to a more about this at the bottom of the hour. But, I'm going to go full Bible on you right here. Okay. Because that's ultimately what matters, is what the word of God says about a particular subject. I was listening to Mark last night, the gospel of. And Jesus, says that Jesus said that God created male, and female, talking about marriage.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And they leave their parents and they become one flesh. When they get married, male and female, but it says he created them male and female. So, God Almighty says in the Bible that there are two sexes and only two, male and female. And so there's no and that's supported by science. I'm not just talking about what the Bible says. Ah, spiritually, although that aligns directly with, the chromosomes. Right, right. Biology, what science says. So this idea that you can, be whatever gender you want to be. I always get a little, Like when you go buy an airline ticket. You go buy an airline ticket online and it has gender. You get to the part. You pull your name, your address, you know, they want your credit card because you got to pay for it, you know, and then they put gender. You click on the gender box, it says male, female, other, other, something. Anyway, I'm going like, why are you even asking me? Airline and all of the airlines do this, I think. Why are you even asking me if I'm a male or female or other or whatever? The purpose of asking that probably would be for a, manifest for the flight, should something happen. FAA comes in and says, who's on. Who was on that flight? Were they male or female? What were they? Well, they filled out the form online and they filled out the form well, you don't even know if they're answering accurately because they don't even. They give you more than two options, whether you're a male or a female. So you see what.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: You see how silly this has gotten in our culture? And it's a loser for Democrats. Okay? No question about there. There are winner winning issues and losing issues for both political parties. And this is a big drag, basically, on the Democrat Party. not all Democrats are in favor of this nuttiness craziness, but some are, but most are, either. They're silent on it. So we'll see what happens.
Fred Cannon says President Trump told Iranian protesters help is on the way
You're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. What's going on with Iran? Fred, this is a big, big deal.
>> Fred Jackson: This is a big deal. The eyes of the world are on Iran right now because it is developing hour by hour, it seems. Yesterday we reported that President Trump had canceled, any meetings with Iranian officials and told the Iranian people who are protesting in the streets, against the Islamic regime there by the thousands, that he told the protesters. Trump did, that help is on the way. What does that mean?
>> Tim Wildmon: Americans, by the way? Excuse me for interrupting. Americans living in Iran or visiting Iran have been told to leave, have been told to leave by the U.S. government.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes. And also we have a base. The United States has a base in nearby Qatar. This is just breaking news, from the Associated Press. Some personnel at that US Military base in Qatar have been advised to evacuate by this evening. Wednesday evening. Eight hours difference added up. We're into Wednesday evening now in that part of the world. Also, the Iranian officials at this point saying there are going to be fast trials and executions of protesters. Now, there were reports this morning executions are already taking place in the streets of Iran.
>> Tim Wildmon: Just, I'm reading where 1500 Iranians have been killed by the government over these protests. have you read that or is that more?
>> Fred Jackson: The number is up to 2500 now. At least 2500.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is going on in Iran. It's a revolution underway. Whether it'll be suppressed or not, I don't know. But there is a genuine, uprising among the people of Iran who are tired of having the Islamic mullahs, which are religious leaders, rule the country.
>> Fred Jackson: Question is, what is the United States going to do? What does President Trump mean by help is on the way? Very interesting. We know the Israelis would be involved in any military action.
>> Tim Wildmon: Would or would not Would.
>> Fred Jackson: I think the Israelis would be involved. I want to play for you a clip from Israeli General Emir Avdi. He guarantees a change in the Iranian regime. Listen to what he had to say. Cut number six.
>> Tim Wildmon: Another fight with Iran and Hezbollah and possibly the Houthis is imminent. And today I can say something we couldn't have said a month ago. This regime is going down. There will be no Iranian regime. And this is going to change entirely, entirely the future of Israel. So I think it's going to be an American led attack. Ah, with the assistance of Israel.
>> Fred Jackson: All right. That's an Israeli general. When they talk that way, I think they're not telling the whole story. He knows a whole lot more.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's a lot though, right? Say out loud.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: he's, he is. If I'm understanding what this general, Israeli general is saying, is that the United States, with the assistance of Israel, will militarily overthrow the current regime in Iran.
>> Fred Jackson: That's my take from that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm not. I think that seems to be an accurate reflection of what he's saying. And when President Trump says, I've canceled all meetings with Iranian officials until the senseless killing of protesters stops, he says to the Iranian patriots, keep protesting. Take over your institutions. Help is on its way. Putting that together with what this Israeli general said, it sounds like we are going to overthrow the Mullis.
>> Fred Jackson: And the fact that, well, we are.
>> Tim Wildmon: On a winning streak with Venezuela. I'm talking.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: We're about to take Greenland down. So we're, we're going to. We're going to be. We're going to be three and, oh, probably after the next week or two.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's a good batting average, would you say?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, standing even. Two out of three.
>> Tim Wildmon: Conquering world. We're on our way.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, listen. Go ahead, Fred.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm sorry, I interrupted you. No.
>> Fred Jackson: this story that just came out about, the United States telling, that some of its personnel are. Base in Qatar, should be out of there by this evening. that's troubling. That means something is going to happen.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: They don't tell people to evacuate from, a military base without some plan.
>> Ed Vitagliano: These are civilians. They're telling them. Or is this military as well?
>> Fred Jackson: They just said some personnel.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
How extensive is our military involvement in trying to topple the Iranian government
I'm worried about this situation right here. Iran. maybe I shouldn't be, but, I mean, this is getting so we're. I don't. Are we going to get military? No, we don't know. We're going to. How, how extensive is going to be our military involvement in trying to topple the Iranian government? And listen, they need to be toppled. And I'm glad this has arisen organically inside Iran among the people of. The citizens of the country, because that's where it has to come from. But now, unless we're going to assist them, the freedom fighters, so to speak, in Iran, how do you do that? You send a missile against a police station there into Iran. You know what I'm saying? These are a lot. We're, we're getting directly involved militarily, sort of like we did in Venezuela, although we had, probably a better claim in Venezuela because of the, you know, the trouble, that Maduro. Maduro.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Maduro.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, Maduro. Was causing in the region.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And to our. And building relationships with our enemies and so forth and so on, and much.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Of that trouble directed towards us.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So in Venezuela, I don't think we.
>> Tim Wildmon: Can go in and capture the Ayatollah, Khomeini. I mean, he can run fast. You seen this guy? you can run on YouTube. He can make and move. He's got tennis shoes on. Anyway, I just. I don't know. I'm kind of concerned about this.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I am concerned about it, too. And, and here's, here's my concern about. I tend to. Listen, I. This is a tough spot because I didn't I don't like Maduro. I didn't like what Venezuela was doing. all these ties to Russia and China working against us, the drugs flowing in, all of that. Maduro's a bad guy. I feel for the Venezuelan citizens. I don't like the mullahs in Iran. And this has been a terrorist state. They have promoted terrorism all over the Middle East. We probably have cells in the terrorist cells in this country with the help of the Biden administration's sloppy or non existent southern, border policy. but when you, when you ask the question this way, what exactly is our foreign policy? Okay. Because I'm like you, you know, when the, when Khomeini falls and the mullahs are out of power and, and Iran can be free, that is a good thing. That's a good thing for the Middle East. Dry up that funding to Hezbollah and Hamas and all of this. But is our foreign policy, where if you start killing your citizens when they want to be free, we're going to war. We're going to war with you. Okay, then what do we do about China? Are we going to war with them? North Korea?
>> Tim Wildmon: What about when China wants to take, Taiwan?
>> Ed Vitagliano: And if you're foreign, foreign policy is if it's in our hemisphere or close to our homeland, we do whatever we want. Then what do you say to Putin who invaded Ukraine? And to your point, what do you say to China if they, invade Taiwan? Like you, I am very concerned. We could be on the verge of World War 3 or this could be one and done.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. All right, we'll be back in a couple of minutes with more of today's issues on the American American Family Radio Network. you can look up that YouTube video. I'm talking about that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Running fast. I think that's what I typed in. Okay, we'll be back. stay with us.
>> Fred Jackson: We would like to take a moment to thank our sponsor, preborn. When a mother meets her baby on ultrasound and hears their heartbeat, it's a divine connection. And the majority of the time she will choose life. But they can't do it without our help. Preborn needs us, the pro life community, to come alongside them. One ultrasound is just $28. To donate, dial pound250 and say the keyword baby or visit preborn.com afr.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is today's issues.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Email your comments to commentsfr.net Past broadcast.
>> Tim Wildmon: Of today's issues are available for listening.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And viewing in the [email protected] now back.
Tim Ferriss: Ed says I lied on today's Issues
>> Tim Wildmon: To more of today's Issues. Welcome back, everybody, to today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. I'm Tim with Ed and Fred. And ladies and gentlemen, when you spend your life pulling other people's legs, then there are times it comes back to you like a boomerang. And Ed just did it to me. so I told Ed during our discussion of world events and the end of the world last hour, last half hour, that I watched a, ah, YouTube video of Ayatollah Khomeini running. And he was a very fast runner with new tennis shoes. And it was on YouTube. So I was saying he might escape the Americans. Ed believed me.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I did.
>> Tim Wildmon: And because I sounded so sincere, believable sincere. But I was pulling his leg. And, so Ed said during the break, I was walking down the hall, went to get my popcorn and coffee. And Ed, I said, he said, I found the video and I sent it to you. And I believed him. So I went to see my cell phone and I just showed it before the, music, before the. We came back live on there, that I haven't gotten anything from you on my cell phone, right? And you said, quote, I lied.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I lied.
>> Tim Wildmon: So. So. And I deserve that. I realize that. But if I can give out 10, if I can pull people's leg 10 times and only get one back at right, I feel like I've lived a good life.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I don't know if a good life is the right way to put it. Well, let me just say you'll never know now whether I'm telling the truth. I just want to tell you, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: And you and I love you, brother. At a ministry. That's going to work out good m. All right, so you're listening to today's issues. And that's the truth, people. That's the truth we can all agree on. That's the name of this show. That's today's issues, and that's the truth. I'm not pulling your leg on that one.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Or crying wolf.
>> Tim Wildmon: A crying wolf. the little boy that cried. Well, I don't know that story.
American Family Radio host Abraham Hamilton joins us for the Hamilton Corner
All right, well, joining us now is Abraham Hamilton iii. Abe is the host of the Hamilton Corner each afternoon here on American Family radio from 5 to 6 o' clock Central time. Abe also is a constitutional attorney and, he's on with us a lot. You know, not every Wednesday, but most Wednesdays when he can. Good morning, Abe.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Good morning.
>> Tim Wildmon: How are you? How are you, Abe?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I love you, brother.
>> Tim Wildmon: Are you pulling his leg?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Can you trust me? Now?
>> Tim Wildmon: Be careful. You know, we Got billable hours going on right now. Lawyers for lawyers. We got billable hours.
Abe Levin: Question about ICE and sanctuary states comes up
hey, before we jump into the supreme, court decision, I wanted to ask you a question. The same Supreme Court hearing yesterday regarding transgendered athletes. That's the. We talked about this at the top of the program. I don't know where this, where this discussion will go exactly, but I do want to talk about it because it's very much in the news. Okay. One of the big national news stories is ice. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Is that what they're called?
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. They are. I know I'm speaking like, I'm talking to third graders, but sometimes we all need this explained to us, because you don't. You don't hear about ICE every day until the last. To the Trump administration. So ICE has been around for a long time through Democrat, Republican administrations. Their job is to deport people, arrest, arrest bad guys, doing harmful things inside our. Inside our country, and deport them if necessary, or put them in prison or whatever the case may be. We're talking about drug dealers, gang leaders, sex trafficking people. I mean, all the. All the things that goes on with criminal activity, among. Among, people. Some people who are here illegally, and the reason they're here illegally is because they don't want to be caught. You know, so if I set that right, the purpose of ICE out, Abe.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: yes, and I just would add, it's not only people doing bad things in our country. Entering our country is illegal. ICE exists to address that as well.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that's true.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Entering our country illegally is illegal, is what I meant to say. That is, ICE exists to deal with that as well.
>> Tim Wildmon: That is true now. So, when Biden let in all these 15 million or so plus people into our port, in our country, we don't even know who they are, where they're coming from, where we do know where they're coming from. A lot of them are coming from the Middle east, from China, from Central and South America, Venezuela. So, But Biden just let them all walk in. It was. It was unbelievable. And he and the Democrats lost the election because of that reason. Primarily, one of the primary reasons was Trump's, Trump's, vow to crack down on illegal immigration, shut down the border, and bring law and order back to our immigration policies. Well, he also said Trump did, and I'm going to unleash the largest deportation effort in American history. And indeed, he's following through with that, with ice. But now ICE is you know, they're being confronted by some people, especially in Minneapolis, and some people, they're being physically confronted by some people to try to provoke them or get them in or stop their efforts. Here's my question. you have some, you have these blue states, okay. Where they are called sanctuary states and they proudly proclaim that Minnesota is one city of Minneapolis, the largest city in the state of Minnesota. They're a sanctuary state. The mayor there says, he used a profane word but he says he ICE needs to get the blank out of many of Minnesota. So my question is the sanctuary states. I know I'm long winded about this, but I am leading to an important question. The sanctuary states and cities who don't want ICE around to get the bad guys and rest them and, or deport them again, drug dealers, all kind of bad activity, illegal activity and, but they don't, they don't want to help ice, but then they don't want to have their own police involved.
>> Tim Wildmon: In any kind of an effort to deport these people or put them into ICE custody. So that the mayor for example, or the governor of a, of a sanctuary state would say, our law enforcement is not participating with the federal law enforcement agency ICE in their, in their work. So we're going to, we're going to ignore them or we're not going to help them. In some cases, as we saw with the judge up in Wisconsin, I think it was she, she, the, the judge there helped knew that ICE is in the lobby waiting on somebody and she helped them escape through the back door. I mean that's how that's how these people think. So my question is, I guess what's supposed to happen constitutionally? Because these blue cities and blue states that came to be sanctuary, they're a part of the country. And so when they house gang activity, illegal activity, it not only affects Minnesota, it probably affects Michigan or Ohio or Iowa, you know what I'm saying? so what do we, what is the answer from the left? If you told them, well, you're not going to help us with your police locally and you don't want ICE there. So I guess you want nothing done about these, about these gangs, or about these people who are here illegally, what would they say?
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yeah, I mean, I think you don't have to even wait to see what they would say verbally. I think their actions tell you what they would say, which is, yeah, we want to be a haven for illegal aliens. I mean there's no other reason to declare yourself a sanctuary state or a sanctuary municipality other than your willingness to harbor illegal aliens. And so, I do think there is a bit of self interest in Mayor Jacob Fray and Tim Waltz, frankly, because I don't think it's coincidental that they have these screeds against ICE as the heat is ratcheting it up against them with a potential criminal investigation into them and the prevalent federal fraud that's happening there. So I think there's a bit of self interest involved in telling ICE to get out. But to your. To, to your specific question, I think their ant. Their actions have revealed that they are okay with their municipalities and states in some instances being havens for illegal alien presence, which would also then include illegal alien activity.
>> Tim Wildmon: Also, gentlemen, mentioned this before. Ice, by the way. Ice. Half, of Americans want to get rid of ice. If you believe the YouGov poll from yesterday I sent around, would like to see ICE gone as a federal agency. That's pretty serious image problem for ice, it seems to me. I mean, they're least popular than, they're getting right up there in IRS territory as far as far as negative opinion by the American people. And I think the reason for that is whether, as I've said before, when you videotape the work of police or law enforcement and they have to subdue and, or arrest people and it gets violent, it gets confrontational, it looks ugly on tv. And then you've got, you got people with mask on, like these ICE agents. Some of them do. And, and I don't like that either. but you know what? These guys are being doxxed, all right. Their families are at risk, when they, when they. So they by necessity, they try to keep their identity, you know, private as possible. and the left won't acknowledge this at all. They just say ICE is. They're like the secret police. And they're going around. We all have imagery of that from the woke from the Nazi regimes and the. What happened to the Soviet Union, the Gestapo and everything like that.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: So, that's, that's hilarious to me. They're like the secret police. Although ICE announced that we're doing an investigation in the Minneapolis area. You have troops that have been. That you have agents have been there for weeks.
Tim Walsh gets Minnesota National Guardsmen to stand off against ICE
And this is one of the things I found most telling in Tim Walsh's statements when basically he seems to be fomenting civil war, frankly, and getting Minnesota National Guardsmen to stand off against ice. And he said these are Our National Guardsmen. One of the things that's just so either ignorant for him to say or even worse, evil for him to say is that the guardsman at the, at the center of the Renee Good scenario is from Minnesota. He lives in north Minneapolis and so he is a Minnesotan as well. So they ignore that aspect of it. And a lot of the rhetoric concerning ICE is what's. They're doing it so that they can change public opinion on ICE's operations. And anybody who objects to law enforcement activities, you have to understand that these people are dealing with a criminal element every day. I don't think anybody wants to play patty cake with somebody who's, I don't know, in a household up and they've raped three little girls and they don't want to go to another country. And any. Before anybody, I would argue, especially every media person before they offer opinions about law enforcement officers, I would encourage them to do ride alongs with police officers to see what they deal with on a regular basis and then offer your opinion. Because we live in a fallen world. They're fallen people. They're excesses in certain instances, but they are very. They're minority occurrences. Largely law enforcement is doing jobs that many people don't want to do in dealing with, you know, the gross underbelly of society.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, you guys respond to this because this is, this is the only conclusion I can come to M. Many Democrats in this country, especially the governors and cities of these sanctuary. They would rather have the crime going on by the, by the people who are here illegally. The, the criminal that doesn't bother them because they would rather have that going on than any kind of crackdown on. On by ice. In other words, they, they would favor allowing criminal act. They maybe not say it like this, but this is in essence what they're saying. Ice, get out. We want to let these criminals do what they want to do to our cities and states because we're not going to do anything about it anyway ourselves because we're not going to as a police call you if we arrest these people. Ed, how else do you, how else do you, do you look at this?
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I, and this is. Look. I agree, I agree. That is the perspective. That is the view on the left, not even the radical left, but that is the view from the left towards crime. It always has.
>> Tim Wildmon: Crime in general.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Crime in general. This was a problem for the Democratic Party in the late 1960s. A lot of people don't. They weren't alive or they don't remember this country Was, in a very similar state in the mid M. Probably the late 60s, especially beginning in 1968 through the early 70s. I've mentioned this before. In a 18, month period, I think it was between 1972 and 1973, there were 2500 bombings in this country. Okay. We have had these kinds of violent times in our past. The Democratic Party has their position, and I'm not saying all of this is illegitimate. They, there was a thing called the, the exclusionary rule. I'm pretty sure it's probably still in place in terms of judicial proceedings that if you obtain evidence by breaking, by in defiance of constitutional protections, illegal searches and seiz, then you exclude that evidence, even if it means a criminal goes free. And listen, I. There's that. That is probably a very legitimate way of looking at the sanctity of our constitutional protections. But the Democratic Party went beyond that in the late 60s, early 70s. In part, that's what cost Jimmy Carter reelection. Losing to Ronald Reagan in 1980 was because they went from, from those kinds of constitutional protections to siding with the criminals and saying, if a few people have to get robbed in order for us to uphold constitutional protections, it's worth it. And I think that, in a sense is the mentality of Democrats today. If a few people have to be victims of crimes from illegal immigrants in order to protect the right of poor people to come to this country, it's worth it. And I think the Democratic Party is running into the same issue they ran into in the 70s as people viewing them as a party that stands up for the rights of criminals rather than citizens.
Abraham Fell: Protesters are assaulting ICE agents trying to do their job
>> Fred Jackson: Well, also, in Minneapolis, the mayor there basically is standing up, for the protesters. And we've seen the violence that they are perpetrating on these ICE agents who are simply trying to do their job. Fox, reporter Griff Jenkins interviewed the mayor of Minneapolis this morning, Jacob Fry, and to talk about the criminal activities of the protesters. Cut 10. You're seeing it in real time. You are aware that 18 US code 111 makes it a federal crime to impede, interfere or even assault officers. And we see the protesters crossing a line of protesting, throwing rocks, hitting cars, and interfering in the federal government's view of their operation of carrying out federal immigration law enforcement.
>> Tim Wildmon: we have had, perhaps tens of thousands of people peacefully protesting in the streets. And at the same time, yeah, they are going to stand up for their neighbors. And what we are seeing, seeing time and time again is unconstitutional conduct by ice. ICE is not new. Our Separation ordinance in the city is not new. ICE has been around for decades, so has our separation ordinance. What is new? What is new is the way that the Trump administration is presently conducting themselves.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, the violence is because the protesters are spitting.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm watching, yeah, I'm watching this on video, some of this video footage. So people need to understand because oftentimes when you see a video on the news, you see the last 15 seconds of a 30 minute confrontation and it looks bad on the ice officers because you see them have somebody in a headlock or something like that and you're going, wow, that's. Can't they just talk it out? And you're going like, so you haven't seen what's happened is Abe said earlier, and Abe's dealt in with law enforcement for a long time, they have to be prepared for the worst. They have to have a little bit of an edge, a little bit of an attitude psychologically to do the work that they do on an ongoing basis. And in the case of ICE here in Minnesota, what happening is, this is what happened in Los Angeles. now I'm not saying ICE doesn't have to be held accountable with Congress, with hearings. You can't just let an agency run rogue. I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm saying there is accountability, and there should be congressionally, particularly oversight. However, what you see going on with ice, like in, what happened in la, what happened in Minneapolis, they're going, they have a, Now, I haven't talked to any ICE agents, about this, but I know, ab. You can correct me if I'm wrong, if you know how this works. ICE agents are sent out, they have an assignment to carry out, okay? This, this guy is at this address and this, and this guy's at this address. they are child molesters, they are, human trafficking, they are dealing drugs. Go get them. They are here illegally. Go detain them. So ICE goes out to get them. Guess what? They are met in the street by protesters who, in the case of the woman who got shot and killed, she had her car out in the middle of the road blocking ice. Okay? On a human level, think what that does to your emotions for a minute. You're ticked, okay? You're angry. I'm trying to go out and do my job to arrest a bad guy. And I got this lady in the street in her car yelling. And her. And her wife's, he didn't know that was her wife, but this other woman's out with her with her cell phone following me around, just waiting for me to make a mistake. That's how. So that's the, that's the. And then I'm watching these ICE agents in the. In, Minneapolis 2. They're being surrounded by people pelting them, calling their names, spitting them to the point of the ICE agent having to push away, push them back. Well, that's get caught on video. See what the ICE agents are doing in Minneapolis. They're just pushing people around. These thugs. They don't show you what they're having to deal with. That's initially what happened with the car. To remember they were told, what, she didn't run over anybody. Remember that the left wing media was saying, she didn't run over anybody until you got the video footage of her. actually of the officer, the ICE officer that, you know, where he fell up. Fell, Fell down. So I'm just saying they have a really, really hard job to do. And, and they're. They. They are a legitimate, federal law enforcement agency. And their job is made ten times harder when, when, these agitators get out and try to pelt them and get in their way and interfere. And then you say, you would think, well, surely the mayor or the governor will call for law and order. No, they don't. They say, guess what? they agree with the protesters. And furthermore, they say, you know what? Our, our police officers are not participating in any way, shape or form to help help, bring a peaceful ending to this situation. For example, the police in Minneapolis, they could have cleared the street. Okay, but you call the. If I called the police, they don't answer the phone, the local police. So it's a bad situation. I know we spent a lot of time on this, but, but I just saw the poll yesterday of, the general American public, and they, Their, Their view of ICE is underwater in terms of the, in terms of the public.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Favorable and unfavorable public perception.
>> Tim Wildmon: And I don't know, you can get that back or not. So,
The Supreme Court heard oral arguments yesterday on Title 9 regarding sex discrimination
All right, Abe, comment to then all the Supreme Court's hearing yesterday about transgendered, about males dunking on girls. How'd that go?
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Well, it went great for those who love truth and liberty and constitutional, freedoms and ordered liberty, and went very well. And my favorite line of questioning is when Justice Alito asks the, you know, the, the regressive lawyer. We're Here discussing Title 9 in his applications, which prohibits discrimination based upon sex, what is the legal definition of sex? That, that would, that would seem to be a pretty Basic question, right? The lawyer goes, well, we don't have a definition. Like what? We don't have a definition.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, we played that clip earlier.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yeah, yeah, it's just absurd. You know what the definition is? Everybody know what the, knows what the definition is, but you don't want to say it because it undercuts your argument. And so having the highest court in our land consist, participate in the oral argument where you having these basic foundational, biological reality questions offered as we're navigating the truth of the constitutionality of boys being prohibited from participating in sports with girls. When we created an entire law to separate sports for boys and girls, it seems like fundamental, foundational, basic understanding is necessary. And so that whole phenomenon and the cases come from, West Virginia and Idaho, who's both implemented laws to protect, girls and to keep boys out of girls sports. That line of questioning was greatly encouraging. In contrast to the I don't know what a woman is that we have in legitimate conversations. If we're going to talk about what the law says concerning sex, we have to define what sex is. And the lawyer didn't want to define what sex was because it undermines their argument.
Abe Hamilton: Why are courts ruling on these issues at all
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, Abe, let me ask you this. are we actually talking about the wrong issue here? One of the things that I think is wrong with this whole process is. I'm looking@ from afn.net from our own news site. This is an AP story. It says lower courts ruled for the male athletes in Idaho and West Virginia who challenged the state bans. Why is the judiciary ruling on these issues? Isn't it the main focus of our Constitution and our federalist system that legislatures pass these laws? Why are courts ruling on these at all?
>> Abraham Hamilton III: That's a great question. And that's actually a line of argument that Justice Kavanaugh brought up, during the oral arguments. Whether or not this needed to be just litigated, if you will, at the state level through the legislative process. But the reason why this is coming up is because you have, you know, full faith and credit equal protection clauses and you have the federal, the federal regulation, if you will, for collegiate things, and the desire to have the concept of equal protection, which is articulated in the Constitution, settled for a national purpose. And that's what some of the other justices mentioned, that though this is an issue that is arising from the state level, we need to have an understanding. And this is me kind of paraphrasing, summarizing, at the national level, what our national stasis is going to be concerning equal protection.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So you think this is a valid judicial question?
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Well, I think there's an argument on both sides in that regard. I do believe personally that needs to be settled. But, you know, whether or not the judiciary is the legitimate constitutional vehicle for that, there's a legitimate argument against that and for it on both sides.
>> Tim Wildmon: What's coming up this afternoon on,
>> Ed Vitagliano: Hamilton Corner, I'm going to talk a.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Bit more about this case and some cases that are coming before the Supreme Court that, unfortunately, to Ed's point, are rising to the level that the Supreme Court, because we have insanity running amok at the lower levels. And in addition to that, we're going to talk a little bit more about what do you do when you have state leaders fomenting chaos and lawlessness like we see in Minnesota with Tim Waltz and Jacob Fry?
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Abe, take care. We look forward to the show this afternoon at 5:00 Central time. We'll be back momentarily with more of today's issue. The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.
