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>> Tim Wildmon: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to American Family Radio, Tim. with Wesley and Ray. Ray's in Florida. We're in Mississippi. And, Steve Jordow is in studio with us, too, here. Steve Paisley Jordow. Good morning, brother Steve.

>> Steve Jordahl: Hey, good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: Everybody having a good day? Day?

>> Steve Jordahl: so far it's a good day here in Mississippi. A, lot of stuff going on in the news, so it's kind of like, drinking from a fire hose.

>> Tim Wildmon: As they say, you know, I'm impressed, Steve, because you've, you, you grew up in California, you lived in Madagascar.

>> Steve Jordahl: spent five or six years on the mission field with my.

>> Tim Wildmon: And then with Focus on the Family in Colorado. For how many years?

>> Steve Jordahl: 10. I was working for them for 10 years. Lived 15 years in Colorado.

>> Tim Wildmon: And you've been in Mississippi for how long?

>> Steve Jordahl: 10 years.

>> Tim Wildmon: 10 years. And you have learned the way many Mississippians do just to slur the word and make it shorter, by calling Mississippi.

>> Steve Jordahl: Mississippi.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I heard you say that. And so many people do use that abbreviation. they just skip some of the ssi. The second one.

>> Steve Jordahl: The other thing I say is NewSong Orleans or Louisiana.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Louisiana.

>> Steve Jordahl: For some reason, Louisiana doesn't come out right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Gotcha.

>> Wesley Wildmon: He has mentioned, though, one of his favorite things about Mississippi is the summertime mosquitoes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah, you love those, do you, Steve?

>> Steve Jordahl: I miss them growing up in Colorado at all.

>> Tim Wildmon: Fellowshipping with the mosquitoes. That's right.

>> Steve Jordahl: My favorite, pets. I named them for some reason.

>> Wesley Wildmon: For whatever reason, that's the first thing that came to mind. Following your history of where you've lived and then making your way to Mississippi. That's got to be one of the few things.

>> Tim Wildmon: They don't have mosquitoes in Colorado.

>> Steve Jordahl: Probably not, at altitude, not where I was not. I mean, I'm sure they exist.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know. Mosquitoes were affected by altitude.

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, there was mosquito problem in Colorado Springs. I did not notice one, and I did not hear of anybody.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Steve Jordahl: Having problems with mosquitoes.

>> Tim Wildmon: So do you trade mosquitoes for grizzly bears?

>> Steve Jordahl: and mountain lions?

>> Tim Wildmon: And mountain lions, yeah. Is that, is that what you have to watch out for, mountain lions?

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. not in the city, but, into the mountains. If you get up close to the mountains. A lot of mountain lions up there? Yeah, yeah. Same Mountain lions known as cougars, other places.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Right. You ever, you ever confronted a Wild animal like that.

>> Tim Wildmon: A mosquito, Like a mountain lion?

>> Tim Wildmon: Mountain lion.

>> Tim Wildmon: Something similar, only on the, only on the Netgeo Channel. You know, that's about as,

Ray was 15ft away from an alligator two weeks ago in Florida

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, how close have you been in the wild to a creature, that could do you harm besides a little.

>> Steve Jordahl: That you know of?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, I was about to. I was about, 15ft away from eight, foot alligator down here in Florida about two weeks ago.

>> Tim Wildmon: You mean, right there around where you're living?

>> Tim Wildmon: No, right on the property. Right, Right here on the property. Word of Life. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: So. But you got little dogs, right?

>> Tim Wildmon: my dog was not with me or my dog would not be with me. Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wow. What did you walk out to get the mail and there's an eight foot alligator out there. How'd that happen?

>> Tim Wildmon: There are 500 acres here at Word of Life.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: And only about, I'm just guessing, only about 100 or 125 acres of it is fully developed. So there's like 300 acres that's marshy swamp land. In fact, they call part of it the swamp. Well, there's a youth camp here and behind the youth camp there's a, what do you call it? A paintball. There's a paintball place and they built it out in the swamp, which just makes it great. I mean it's, you know, you go out there and you're in the middle of the swamp and you're shooting the paintballs. Kids love it and it's great. But there's a, a trail out there. And people had told me there are. They say there are 200 plus alligators here on the property. Cause it's Florida, right? It's in, there's water, there's lakes on the property. So there's alligators down here. But I was out, I was out on my golf cart exploring and I was on the little path that goes out to the right. I'm going down there, I'm going down there minding my own business. And all of a sudden 15ft away, there's a rustle in the grass and the slapping of a tail and it's an alligator. And it turned toward me and did the thing where it opens its mouth and shows its teeth. So I said 8ft is probably more like 35ft, you know, maybe 50ft.

>> Steve Jordahl: You know, it was 35ft and then it was 50ft. That was 100ft. Pretty.

>> Tim Wildmon: There's 100ft. 100ft.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, were you where you could turn around? Did you know?

>> Tim Wildmon: No, I was not. Because it's a narrow path. All I could do was go forward. I hit the gas, hit the gas, hit the gas on the golf cart, which is just, you know.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right, sure.

>> Tim Wildmon: Electric, down there. And I was making a video for my advent series out there in the swamp again, background. And when I look at that advent video, I made, probably nobody else could tell, but I was sweating a little bit extra because to get back, get back to our place, I had to go right back where the alligator was. But by the time I got back there and looked around, either he wasn't there or he had hidden himself in the mud pretty well. And I just skiddaddled. I didn't stick around.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. Just keep the gas foot to the floor and go.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So when are you going to release the behind the scenes of the Advent video scenes?

>> Tim Wildmon: Now, here is the rest of the story. Yeah. So that's not a mountain.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Ah, yeah. Florida's version of a mountain lion would be an alligator.

>> Steve Jordahl: I got a question for you there, Ray. what are acceptable losses for the word, of life on the paintball course, in order to have a paintball course with the alligators? This acceptable lot, you know, if you just lose one or two kids a year, is it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, my God, you know, that's dark.

>> Tim Wildmon: Steve.

>> Tim Wildmon: I am tempted, I'm tempted to make a joke. I will not do that. There has never been in the 36 years that, loss of life, there's never been, there's never been a bad encounter between humans and alligators.

>> Tim Wildmon: Leave alligators alone, they'll leave you alone.

>> Steve Jordahl: They're more scared of you than they are you are of them, said someone who's never faced an alligator.

>> Tim Wildmon: Just keep your distance, friends.

Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert, passes away from cancer

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. You're listening to today's Issues. First story, Steve.

>> Steve Jordahl: All right, Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert, who has been very public with his battle for cancer, has passed away this morning. And, his wife, hosted his podcast and, he had a final message. Now, this is edited. This is. It was about an eight minute message. I've just got about 50 seconds of it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Creator of Dilbert.

>> Steve Jordahl: Creator of Dilbert. this is the stuff that's pertinent to our show. he had other things to say, but. This is Scott Adams, cut 12.

>> Speaker F: Unfortunately, this is good news. Of course, he waited till just before the show started, but he's not with us right anymore. He has a final message that he wanted to say, so I'm going to try to read it. Many of my Christian friends have asked me to Find Jesus before I go. I'm not a believer, but I have to admit the risk reward calculation for doing so looks so attractive to me. So here I go. I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and look forward to spending an eternity with him. The part about me not being a believer should be quite quickly resolved. If I wake up in heaven, I won't need any more convincing than that.

>> Tim Wildmon: he said that the other day, too.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, he said that in his own words, but his wife reiterated that. And, Ray, I don't know. We always, kind of interest ourselves in was it legitimate? Did he really. Did he know enough and everything? It's kind of an irrelevant conversation once someone is gone. But, I remember something, that, Who was the guy that we used to have on at noon here? the Scottish preacher, had a great, talk about the thief on the cross. He says, gets to heaven is where. Do you know about, you know, repentance? What do you know about, you know, the remission of sins and all this kind of stuff? He says, I don't know anything about that, but the guy on the cross in the middle said I could come.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, there you go.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, so.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, go ahead, Ray.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, look, the great good news of the gospel is that all you have to do is turn with your heart and believe in Jesus. We're used to, in our circles, our conservative, evangelical circles, we have a way in which it's done. You come forward, you're at the youth group, you're at youth camp, you're at a. You know, you're on a retreat, and somebody comes and shows you. Romans 3, 23, Romans 6. 23 Romans 5, 8, Romans 10, 13. I'm doing the Romans road thing in my head right now, you know. And then we lead you in a prayer, sentence by sentence. Okay? I think that's wonderful, and that's why a lot of people come to Christ. But the truth of the matter is there is no approved way. It's a matter of the heart. It's between the sinner and God. And the story of the woman, remember the woman with the issue of blood? what did it take to turn her life around? All she did was reach out and touch the hem of his garment. Just the tiniest touch. And it seems to me, as I read the story, her faith even seems to be mixed, with a bit of superstition there, if you want to call it that. If only I touch him, I'll be healed. She touched him and she was healed. So is God. Adams did quote the normal way. There is no normal way except to say this. If you come to Jesus in sincere faith, he will not turn you away. Anyone who calls upon the name of the Lord, the Bible says, will be saved. And I accept it as simple truth that Scott Adams, says I am calling on the name of the Lord. He said in that statement, Steve, I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. Look forward to spending eternity with him. that statement alone is, quote, better than the words I said when I accepted Christ. On June 21, 1969, at 5:15pm, sitting on the concrete steps outside my house in Russell, Alabama, having been raised in the church, having come under conviction, I prayed a simple prayer, and these are the words I blurted out. Jesus, if you are real, come into my life. Friends, that's not an approved evangelism explosion kind of prayer. Right? You'll never see that kind of sentence used in, an evangelism training. Jesus, if you're real, come into my life, come into my heart. He was. He did. And I've never doubted it from that day until this. So let us say this. Do I expect to see Scott Adams in heaven? I certainly do. What happened in the moment of his death is between Scott, Adams and the Lord. But he did say, I accepted Christ and I expect to spend eternity with him. If so, I expect to meet Scott Adams in person someday in heaven.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, Scott Adams, has passed away. He was the creator of the, comic strip Dilbert, which, for people who remember what newspapers are, that was hugely popular for many years, I don't know, a couple decades.

>> Steve Jordahl: Ricard reading in the Silicon valley in the 90s when I worked.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is that right?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: So that's what he was known for, the Dilbert character in the comic strip. So he passed away today at age 68. You're listening to Today's Issues on American Family Radio.

Steve King: Democrats have changed their stance on immigration since Obama took office

Next story.

>> Steve Jordahl: Steve, the left has been out of its mind with anger over, the ICE raids in various cities. They are, protesting. And it's now a matter of accepted, dogma on the left that, you cannot kick anybody out. ICE has no jurisdiction. All this kind of stuff. I'm wondering how, sincere the Democrats are about this because there was a time not that long ago when they had the exact opposite, view. I want to play you a clip from a former congressman. His name is Luis Gutierrez. He was from Illinois. He served from 93 to 2019. This is a clip from 2014. he was, on the, he was in charge of immigration. I mean, he wasn't in charge, but he was on the committee that deals with immigration. And this is him defending Barack Obama for being the deporter in Chief. Cut 11.

>> Speaker G: Here we have the last three presidents of the United States, Bill Clinton, George Bush, and Barack Obama. Mr. Speaker, let's test our knowledge of how much or how little they have enforced the immigration laws of the United States during their term. Question 1. Which President deported a population slightly larger than the population of the entire state of Nebraska? With almost 2 million deported so far, Barack Obama has deported more people than live in the entire state of Nebraska. No one has deported more people. A star. First place goes to Barack Obama. Question 2. Who expanded immigration enforcement by local enforcement 100 fold? One of these presidents expanded the Secure Communities program for deporting immigrants who are booked into local jails from 31 jurisdictions in this nation to over 3,000. And who was that? Yes, President Barack Obama.

>> Steve Jordahl: Another star that last, is involving local law enforcement and helping ICE round up.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's, a Democrat bragging about Obama deporting people.

>> Steve Jordahl: That is exactly.

>> Tim Wildmon: Why is he doing that there?

>> Steve Jordahl: Because that was, they were tough on. They were tough on immigration back then. It was a popular thing to believe back then, before Donald Trump said.

>> Tim Wildmon: So your point is? The Democrat Party has changed.

>> Steve Jordahl: Just a little hypocritical on this thing, I don't think. I think it's mostly because Donald Trump is doing it that they don't like it. Not because, well, during the Biden administration.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I have a world. Or why I have a more sinister view of this, and I've mentioned it before. that is, it has changed. I think Joe Biden, while he was president, he just said no more borders. And so he allowed anybody and everybody. I, mentioned this before, but I'm going to tell you what the motivation was to pour into our country. So much so that the mayor of NewSong York had to say, stop it. We can't take anymore. These people were traveling all the way to NewSong York from the southern border. And so Biden just let everybody in. We saw, we know that millions and millions of people, I don't know, 15 million people or so what came into our country. We don't even know who they were. We didn't know anything about them. I just said, y' all come. They came from around the world. Remember. Remember, there was a lot of, a lot of, Chinese nationals, people from the Middle East. It was unbelievable. the. And so Trump won In part because he said, I'm shutting down the border. This is. We can't. We have to have law and order. We can't. Our immigration laws have to be enforced. So I believe that, Biden let all these people in because he wants them to become Democrat voters.

>> Steve Jordahl: I don't know.

>> Tim Wildmon: That was the ultimate objective, was to make these folks give them legal rights, to give them citizenship ultimately. And then they'll turn into lifelong Democrat voters, and that'll be the end of the Republican Party as we know it. That was the objective. Could you scratch your head going, why doesn't a president like Biden, even though he's a Democrat, care about, our borders at all?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Sovereignty of our country?

>> Tim Wildmon: Why is he just letting people flood into our country? Well, he wanted to. First of all, many of the Democrats, not all of them, but many of the Democrats, they don't believe in borders. Right. They don't believe on them.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So their party's been hijacked.

>> Tim Wildmon: They have been. They don't believe in borders at all. So you wonder why don't they care? Because they want it this way. This is intentional. It's by design. It's not a mistake. Go ahead.

>> Wesley Wildmon: In addition to that, I think second to that is that they wanted, just our country in chaos and division. And that's what it's called. I mean, you look at what ICE is having to do, and this is a side effect. Then you got mayors like Fry Fray free.

>> Tim Wildmon: So you want. So Democrats again, not, all Democrats, I wanted to make sure. But the left wing Democrat, Democrats, they wanted all these people to pour into the country. And these are the same people who are teaching people to go out and confront ice. So they don't even want these people deported. Not even the bad, wicked ones who are child molesters or drug traffickers or human traffickers.

ICE agents can't go out and do their job because police departments aren't cooperating

>> Wesley Wildmon: Those are, those are the ones that they're currently arresting in Minneapolis.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, but the Democrat, these, these activists say, no, we don't even want these people deported. Right. We want these people to stay amongst us. It's, it's bizarre. Yeah, Bizarro. But this is what's leading. So these ICE agents can't go out and do their job because the police departments in the cities aren't cooperating with them. So they're left to go out and basically physically fight these protesters. and you're gonna, you're gonna have some more bad things happen because the, because these protesters are told go out and confront ICE agents.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, the ICE agents, they're trained to. It's, they're, they're at a heightened sense of, they're, they're, they're amped up.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Steve Jordahl: Right. They're on alert.

>> Tim Wildmon: They're on alert. That's a good way to put.

Donald Trump in his two terms has deported somewhere around 2 million people

All right, you're listening to today's issues. But that was one of the big reasons that Trump won the presidency is because he, People knew that he would shut down the border, which he has.

>> Wesley Wildmon: and restore law and order and surprisingly deport. Actually go through with the process of deporting people. Because I voted for him to do that. But I was, I was skeptical. Skeptical how not want to. But that it could actually be done at the rate that he's doing it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. And these same people, these same lefties, I didn't see him saying anything or crying or being appalled when, these. Remember these, the string of women that were raped and killed by the illegal aliens. Remember that?

>> Wesley Wildmon: They're not wearing their name on their shirt.

>> Tim Wildmon: And they, Nobody said Lake and Wriley. And there were several other ones, that was around the country. And that, by the way, that kind of criminal activity goes on. It doesn't make national news all the time. But, nobody was holding. You didn't see them holding rallies or. For the, for those people. Yeah, those victims.

>> Wesley Wildmon: They're making the criminals the victims.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Steve Jordahl: By, by number. Let me just put a bow on this. By number. Donald Trump in his two terms has deported somewhere around 2, between 1.4 and 2.4 million people. Barack Obama, 3.1 million. He still records.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, the other thing is that, there is a self deportation program that doesn't get a lot of attention, that some people who are here illegally are taking advantage of. And that is where the United States federal government pays them to leave.

>> Steve Jordahl: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: To go back to their homeland. they pay their travel and give them some money to go back to their homeland.

Secretary of Treasury Scott Besant is investigating Somali left and their practices

All right, next story, Steve.

>> Steve Jordahl: All right, the Secretary of Treasury is, being very deliberate about his investigation into the Somali, into the left and their practices.

>> Tim Wildmon: What's his name?

>> Steve Jordahl: Scott Besant.

>> Tim Wildmon: He's the Secretary of Treasury.

>> Steve Jordahl: He's the Secretary of Treasury. And what the Democrats are doing, what antifa and these people are doing, is illegal. And he is quietly going about the business of following the money is what he says. Cut 10.

>> Tim Wildmon: When you see these protests, someone is financing them. There are safe houses that when you see the 300 people with the same laser that they're using to blind DHS agents in courthouses in Portland. Someone bought those lasers. And again, what we do is follow the money, just like we followed it with the Mafia, just like we follow it with the drug cartels. And we will find out who's done this. I announced today that we are going to put in effect a whistleblower program. And my sense is that the rats will turn on each other. That, as I believe you reported, or someone talked about in the roundtable today, one, of the Somali fraudsters tried to bribe a juror with $120,000. Well, it turned out she'd been given 200,000 to bribe the juror, and she skimmed 80,000. Like, it's like the scorpion. It's in their nature, honor among thieves.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wow. Well, by the way, Obama, may have deported a lot of people. He was the one who brought all the Somalis over to Minnesota. Yeah, right.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, yeah. During. During a civil war in Somalia. And, Donald Trump is ending the, the visa program that brought them in. The temporary, t. Temporary, what's it called?

>> Tim Wildmon: That's kind of interesting because I would like to maybe sometime do a study, a little bit of a research on that, because I think it, What if Obama's intention was to bring those people over, drop them in the middle of a purple state and have them all be Democrats, which would swing the state to being blue in most occasions? They're not. Still not Minnesota. Still purple.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: and that is to say they have a few Republicans voted statewide.

>> Steve Jordahl: Temporary protected status is what I was looking for.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but, that would. That, you know, to drop all those Somalis in, to bring them over here and put them in Minnesota.

Tim Wesley: Steve, thanks for being on American Family Radio today

All right. we are out of time. We thank you for yours, by the way. right. Appreciate it. appreciate you being on today, brother.

>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you, Tim Wesley.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Enjoyed it, Steve.

>> Steve Jordahl: My pleasure.

>> Tim Wildmon: my thanks to Chris Woodward and, Brent Creely, our producer, Cole Greene, our videographer, and Dr. Frank Turek, who was on with us last hour as well. We hope you have a wonderful rest of your Tuesday and keep listening to American Family Radio, and we will be back here tomorrow.