Tim Wildman: The time zone thing, the daylight savings time drives me crazy
>> Steve Jordahl: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim with Tony, Tony Vitagliano with me. Ed's out today and, Tony's filling in for his dad. And Steve Paisley Jordah joins us now.
>> Steve Jordahl: Good afternoon, good morning. Hello, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: And, yeah, it depends on what time zone you are, right?
>> Steve Jordahl: In NewSong York, it's, it's afternoon.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm just glad we got more light in this world.
>> Tony Vitagliano: That was nice, I'll say that. Yesterday, it was 6:30 and I was like, it's still, still light out there.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, yeah, it was dark when I got up this morning and dark when I got to work. So we're, we're trading it off. Yes, it was darker.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Man was not meant to live in darkness, though, I think, that spiritually or physically I said, let there be
>> Steve Jordahl: light and it was good.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Absolutely not. Well, you know, they're, they're going to, they're going to roll back the time change. One of these days we're going to, they're going to vote.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's, that's when I, with that violence. But I would consider it if, if somebody tried to take away my daylight. Save his time, I mean.
>> Tony Vitagliano: so you like the daylight savings?
>> Tim Wildmon: No, no, no, I like, I like being able to go outside and it doesn't get dark till 8 o'. Clock. That's what I like.
>> Tony Vitagliano: So you would be for doing away with the time change?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, I would, if that. Yes, I would be. Would you. What about you?
>> Tony Vitagliano: Where do you fall 100%?
>> Tim Wildmon: What about you, Steve?
>> Steve Jordahl: The time zone thing, the, daylight savings time drives me crazy.
>> Tim Wildmon: Don't waffle here, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, here's the reason is because I do, a good number of calls to Arizona and I can never remember which side of this thing they're on because they don't change.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Yeah, they don't do it. Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: So I don't know if they're with us or with, or with Colorado or they're with California. I don't know. But, it's a good thing that we don't live further north or south because, like, there are places up, like in Alaska where it doesn't get light at all during the day. Yeah. I mean, above the ark.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Well, and then they have other times of the year where it gets light. Yeah, it doesn't get dark.
>> Steve Jordahl: So.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, they have extremes that.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. I don't like that either. But, anyway, I'm just. I'm glad what happened over the weekend was. I know we sprang forward.
>> Steve Jordahl: Mm.
>> Tim Wildmon: But, some people complain about losing an hour of sleep.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: but that's a small sacrifice to pay.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: When you can get, you know, you can get 7:30 till dark.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Yeah.
Tim: I like to help my wife in the yard during daylight
What do you like to do that daylight, Tim, is there something you like to do that daylight better?
>> Tim Wildmon: I just like. There's something. Well, no, I like to help my wife in the yard as much as I possibly can. And,
>> Tony Vitagliano: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, I look around my neighborhood. People who help. Who need help moving. Yeah. Things of that, you know, I just want to be generous with my time. And if it's daylight, I feel like I can be more of a witness.
>> Tony Vitagliano: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Does that.
>> Tony Vitagliano: It answers it.
>> Tim Wildmon: And, you know, on rare occasions. Yes. I might go golf.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: after work, you know, till. Till dark. But, you know, that's not my main motivation for liking the sunshine.
>> Tony Vitagliano: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: so,
All right, here we go. I just told a whopper. Figure out which one it was. All right. Let's move on
All right, here we go.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right.
>> Tim Wildmon: I just told a whopper. Figure out which one it was.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, let's.
>> Tony Vitagliano: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Let's talk about AI My wife just said quit lying.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, she said lines of sin.
>> Tony Vitagliano: She hadn't said which one was a lie either, so. Yeah.
>> Speaker D: All right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Okay. Let's move on.
Researchers built a new AI agent called Roam that started mining cryptocurrency
>> Steve Jordahl: All right. Let's talk about artificial intelligence. I want to talk about. There's a new research paper out from Alibaba, the, company, and it is telling about researchers who built a new AI agent called Roam. And this thing, found unanticipated and spontaneous behaviors emerge without any instructions. And what this thing did is it made a reverse. Well, it's an SSH tunnel. It's like vpn. It made a reverse encrypted connection with an outside computer without being told to. It went outside what they're calling the sandbox. The sandbox is when they test AI Machines. They put fences around it. You can do these computers and no more. but it went outside of that, and it started mining cryptocurrency. It just went out and started buying cryptocurrency. and we have other examples.
>> Tim Wildmon: A computer.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, an AI Agent.
>> Tim Wildmon: but that's a computer. All right.
>> Steve Jordahl: Computers.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is like we live in a computer that wore tennis shoes. Age, right?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, these computers have a life of their own. That's what AI Is. True.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Yeah. It's a,
>> Tim Wildmon: In essence. Ah.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Yeah. In simplification. A computer. A highly advanced computer program.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. Which has a personality, I guess. So to speak. Yeah.
>> Tony Vitagliano: That's based on the question.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. In another instance, not the same, AI agent agent, but a different AI agent, with an application called OpenClaw, which uses AI to help people look for jobs. The AI agent itself went out and applied for jobs.
>> Tim Wildmon: Did he get it?
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't know. It did interviews.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Dissatisfied.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's good interview. I don't know whether, they saw through it or not.
>> Tony Vitagliano: I'm a little shocked that, a Chinese made AI would automatically start trying to subvert, firewall security protection, start mining Bitcoin. shocked.
>> Tim Wildmon: that one. I hear the. I hear the sarcasm, Tony. I'm catching you.
>> Steve Jordahl: And they have been,
>> Tim Wildmon: You get that naturally, by the way. Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: They've been known to do even more like darker, things like, blackmail their users. Ah. They. They programmed one to a fictitious employee at the company was having a fictitious affair and the AI agent didn't know it's fictitious. Anyway, instead of being shut down, it was going to blackmail this fictitious employee. And then there's even darker. There's an agent, that's now being accused of leading a guy down to, a chatbot that led him to delusional behavior and prompted him to take his own life. So this can be bad.
Nearly a quarter of high school students use AI chatbots for homework
One of the things you remember we talked with, Robert, Bob McGinnis here about A.I.
>> Tim Wildmon: we did? Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: He put out, an op ed here, and he was talking about American teenagers use of AI chatbots for homework. M. more m. Than half of American teenagers report using them for schoolwork. 1 in 10. See, AI handles all or most of their assignments. Nearly a quarter of high school students use it for some of their homework. And what's most disturbing to Bob is that they don't see anything wrong with this. AI is doing their homework for them. And it's just part of.
>> Tim Wildmon: Where was this when I was a kid? What I want to know. I had to go look it up in the Britannia Britannica or the World Book and try not to copy word for word.
>> Tony Vitagliano: I was, I was. I was still at that.
>> Tim Wildmon: You were in that hybrid.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Yeah. I didn't have the Internet at our house until I was.
>> Tim Wildmon: You still had to go with the old school library. You had to go to library.
>> Tony Vitagliano: You know, look, I think this is not surprising at all. First of all, to me that kids are doing this. I mean, they're kids, right. Naturally gonna try and find a way around.
>> Tim Wildmon: Sure, sure.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Homework, you know, projects to make their life easier. That's not surprising to me. What I think we're gonna have to deal with, Steve, is how our current educational system operates, which is the way we teach kids and what we require from them. So obviously, if it is just memory, which is, And I, love teachers and, you know, there is value in our educational system. I'm not, I'm not saying that. But. But if. If most of it is study these facts, repeat these facts back to me, get a good grade, then it's not surprising to me that kids would just use AI to just repeat facts back. So I, think we're going to have to have some conversations, you know, I don't know how soon it'll have to take place. Probably needs to start taking place now on how we teach kids. How are kids actually learning? Because if you're just study these facts, repeat them back to me. You got to have more than that. You got to engage their brains somehow. And it's not just by, what do
>> Tim Wildmon: you call it, critical thinking.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: You got to. Yeah. education and learning and getting ready for, you know, life. Right. When you're, you know, either high school or you go into college, the main thing is your critical thinking skills. Yes. Facts of, of a subject matter do. Do count especially. But, but that's after you learn. After you have a. You learn that you can't just be a robot. Right. You know what I'm saying? You're going to have to be able to think and use reason. And they used to teach reason and logic.
>> Steve Jordahl: I took logic classes in college.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: I didn't have a computer until graduate school, much less the Internet. maybe they have it backwards, Tony. because they say in college they teach you not what to think, but how to think, how to reason through things.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Right.
>> Steve Jordahl: High school, you're kind of learning the basics. ABC of history. like, what do we learn from history? This lesson, elementary school, we're learning how to read, which you got to start there. But maybe we need to teach kids how to think, like college does.
>> Tim Wildmon: But it's kind of the difference between. It's kind of the difference between learning phonics. Right. Which learns you, which learns you. I'm a proud public school graduate. Right there. Which learns you. Get some learning.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know what I'm saying?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or some layering if you're in Minneapolis. You do, No, you get. You get, an understanding of. Of like with phonics. Of the sounds that letters make. Right, and how you blend them together to come up with words and what words mean. Not just a. Like some, some. Some schools try to teach sight words.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, and I'm going like, you may learn that, but you're not learning the. You're not learning how, how that word came to be.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: So to speak.
>> Steve Jordahl: So the, the, the healing brain is such an amazing thing.
Tim Ferriss: AI is becoming more and more intrusive in education
>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, you're welcome.
>> Tim Wildmon: Appreciate it.
>> Steve Jordahl: You have to start with the basics. You got to do the fundamentals of how to read. but eventually we don't sound. We don't sound words out anymore. We see a word and we understand the word without ever. We just know that that's the word. That's right where that takes you. but, we're getting to a point where AI is going to be more and more intrusive in education. It's coming everywhere. I was reading this morning, somebody put out a fake AI thing that said that one of the major tech firms just cut half their employees. It really did happen to one. But this morning it was. It was a, fake. They faked it. And one of the news aggregates that I use fell for it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you're not going to be able to AI your way through medical school. Okay? This is not. Yes, this is a threat, to education, somewhat, I would agree. AI, I'm talking about. But you're, you're, There, there, Your, Your employer, whoever it may be, you're going to learn pretty quick whether you, Whether you cheated your way to. Through school or not. Seems to me.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, if medical schools are, Are doing land acknowledgments, and they have gotten so woke. I hope you're right, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: land acknowledgments.
>> Steve Jordahl: Medical schools have gotten on the woke bandwagon. A lot of them have. And they, they, they teach.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, let them get sued about 10 times for malpractice. We'll see. We'll see whether that stops or not. But it will. Yep. See what I'm saying? I have confidence.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes, sir. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're in the human race. Is it coming through?
>> Tony Vitagliano: It is.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Loud and clear.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Anyway, so, go ahead, Steve. What's next story.
Jennifer Kunings says Americans are inundated with negative propaganda about Iran
>> Steve Jordahl: All right. There, is a class of people in this country that hate this country. and I want to introduce you to two of them. these are two young ladies, who are, let's call them influencer Influencers. They have, their.
>> Tim Wildmon: Tony is. He's an influencer.
>> Speaker D: That's right.
>> Tony Vitagliano: This 36 year old father of five out there. You're out there rocking it left and right.
>> Steve Jordahl: Okay, These are podcasters and they are political activists. One of them volunteered for the the campaign of some members of Congress. but do you remember, in the Vietnam War, you, you probably. I don't know if you would, Tony, but when, when Jane Hanno. Jane Hanno. Jane went to, and she sat behind one of those anti aircraft guns and everybody thought she was a traitor. Well, we have our own versions of this. Two ladies, one named Kala Walsh and one named Jennifer Cooings and they decided this was last year before this current war started, to go visit Iran. And I want you to hear a little bit about what they had to say about our country and about Iran. This has got 17.
>> Jennifer Kunings: My name is Jennifer Kunings, I'm from the United States and living in the United States we're constantly inundated with negative messaging and propaganda about places like Iran and how evil they are. But if you have two functioning brain cells, you know that none of it's true because the US Empire is the most criminal evil entity on the planet. It's incredibly powerful to be standing amongst the missiles, the drones that are resisting US imperialism and Zionism, that have launched historic strikes on the heart of the genocidal Zionist entity.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Listen, if you're Jennifer Koonings and you stay over in Iran long enough, the next time she reports she's going to be saying from a hijab.
>> Steve Jordahl: I just want to say that if
>> Tim Wildmon: you live in Iran, it is the greatest place to live in for women. For women behind her hijab. That's a good.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Stay there long enough. How much you like it?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, they hit all the buzzwords. They must have those written out. Colonialism, imperialism, genocide.
>> Tim Wildmon: They were just. And listen, if you can't distinguish between the people of Iran, which many of them are peaceful, right. Normal citizens who just want everything, everybody, and the regime which, which, which slaughters the people.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're intentionally confusing the matter.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And that's what she was doing right there. She was saying, you know, nothing could be further if you have, you have two, two cells of a brain.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Then you know that what the Americans are telling you about Iran is not true. They're not a threat and the US
>> Steve Jordahl: is the most evil regime on earth.
>> Tim Wildmon: I bet she came home to it though, didn't she?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes, she did.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Like Ellen DeGeneres and Rosie O. Yeah, about six months of the British, outdoors Is about all they wanted.
>> Tony Vitagliano: She filmed it on her iPhone, created by the most oppressive regime in the world, and then went to get her coffee.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, right.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Coffee.
>> Tim Wildmon: Fly back in the JFK and then back home to the repressive, country. That's what gets me is these lefties, they say this is the land of white supremacy, right? Talking about the US Right. And systemic racism is just, Just crippling America.
>> Tony Vitagliano: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: But what do we want? Hey, everybody, come on into America, right? We want you here to experience systemic racism.
>> Tony Vitagliano: We're a white supremacist nation, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Who welcomes.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Elected an African American man.
>> Tim Wildmon: Twice.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Twice.
>> Tim Wildmon: Twice.
>> Tony Vitagliano: I don't recall, Iran ever electing a white Christian man. That's good point to their nation.
>> Tim Wildmon: So they're not very tolerant over there, but these two bozos there, right, the influencers there couldn't.
>> Tony Vitagliano: That's why I'm not an influencer, Tim.
>> Steve Jordahl: I just.
>> Tony Vitagliano: I look at people like that.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm like, you don't want any part of that.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Shed. Shed the. The spotlight and the celebrity.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're right. I wonder if these women got their hijabs on while they were.
>> Steve Jordahl: They were. They had their heads covered.
>> Tim Wildmon: Why? That's, That's, That's a sign of. Because they want repression of, male domination. They should resist that. I, know they have their heads cut off. They didn't, you know.
James Carville has been captured by Trump Derangement syndrome, Steve says
Okay, next story.
>> Steve Jordahl: Steve, we go from that to someone, who. Maybe people that don't necessarily hate America, but they sure do hate Donald Trump. And I want to bring exhibit number one.
>> Tim Wildmon: You got exhibit number one?
>> Steve Jordahl: I do. This is. Remember James Carville, who's a Democrat,
>> Tim Wildmon: analyst, a great thinker.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes. He was married to Mary Matlin, and still is, to the best of my knowledge, who's a conservative and he's a liberal. He used to be a liberal, but he has been captured by Trump Derangement syndrome. By his own admission, he's been captured by that already. Here, that cut 15.
>> Speaker D: Look, you fat Trump, if you listen to this, you listen good. Because what I'm getting ready to say is what a lot of people in this country speak for who I speak for, and I speak for a lot of people. You hear me, you fat. This is what we believe you, right? I got Trump Derangement syndrome. I hate the. And you know what? I don't want to get rid of it. I don't want to get better. I want to get worse. I want to hate him more. We want more. We want to hate so much that we can't see straight.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's a case of Trump derangement Center for you.
>> Tim Wildmon: That right there is an intellectual genius, a giant among us right there. Relevant. Now, for a minute there, I saw, uncle side going over to the dark side, right? Huh?
>> Tony Vitagliano: I don't.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I know there's a. They're both from Louisiana, but now one's from south Louisiana, other's from north Louisiana. But he had a little of that uncle.
>> Tony Vitagliano: I think they roll him out, hoping that he'll draw people from Carvel. Yeah, yeah, it's. But it's. It's because he's a walking dichotomy. Your accent says you have to be wearing a MAGA hat. And, you know, I think he had yelling to port them all. Instead, he's like, you know, I say,
>> Speaker D: well, we are not trans to kids.
>> Tony Vitagliano: You know, who's with me here? You know, I'll tell you.
>> Steve Jordahl: I remember whenever I was growing up,
>> Speaker D: when I was growing up, you know,
>> Tim Wildmon: I know gay parents.
>> Speaker D: All I talked about.
>> Steve Jordahl: Very nice.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Good. That's, good. James Carbell is. But I think James Carver right there. I think he was doing an advertisement for Red Bull. I really do. I think. I think he had three of them right before he went on to videotape that. That sound. I think we need to play that again just so we. People can say, are we being fair to James?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, let's maybe.
Let's hear this classic, um. From James Carville. Yeah. If you listen to this, you listen good
>> Tim Wildmon: Let's hear this classic, I guess you would call it just a, Ah, look at the. Look at life from. From James Carville.
>> Speaker D: Look, you fat Trump. If you listen to this, you listen good. Because what I'm getting ready to say is what a lot of people in this country speak for, who I speak for, and I speak for a lot of people. You hear me, you fat. This is what we believe you. Right? I got Trump derangement syndrome. I hate them. And you know what? I don't want to get rid of it. I don't want to get better. I want to get worse. I want to hate him more. We want more. We want to hate so much that we can't see straight.
>> Steve Jordahl: Even called, he wanted to be God's agent of revenge or vengeance.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know what's going on there.
>> Speaker D: Having a heart attack right now.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's not his finest.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Yeah, but this is.
>> Steve Jordahl: This, I believe, is kind of, the end result where the Democrat parties. There's a wing of the Democrat party that he does speak for. And, people like AOC and the SQUAD and Others.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's against aoc, though. A lot of things.
>> Steve Jordahl: Sure.
>> Tim Wildmon: But I think she's gone too far. Oh, no, they both got tds.
>> Steve Jordahl: and, And I think. But I do think that there's some people who just have been blinded right. By the tds. They, they wouldn't. Again, you know, Trump, he's got a good heart.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's got a good heart.
>> Steve Jordahl: Carvel.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: Trump.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, James Carville.
>> Steve Jordahl: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: So I think you're right.
>> Steve Jordahl: He's all right.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's been misled, maybe has.
>> Tony Vitagliano: He's the last of the. What are they calling? The Blue Dog Democrats. You know, he just. He voted Democrat his whole life was.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tony Vitagliano: involved in the political machine whenever it was somewhat sane, you know, and they weren't running.
>> Tim Wildmon: Something. Something Trump said or did over the weekend just set him off, though. Let me just. I don't know what happened there, but it's, unfortunate.
Democrats want to raise the capital gains tax from 23.8% to 35.8%. 12 points
next. We got about a minute or two left here.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, let me just. I just want to, You know, they're having debates on Capitol Hill about the funding of the government to the next financial, package. This is a Democrat proposal. The Democrats want to raise the capital gains tax from 23.8%, what it is now, to 35.8%. 12 points. They want to add 12%, to the capital gains. Now, capital gains is when you own stock, for example, and it, it, gains money. You pay taxes when you cash it in or in certain.
>> Tim Wildmon: Nancy Pelosi. Nancy M. Pelosi is going to be very disappointed in this one.
>> Steve Jordahl: When your house. You sell your house and it's made so much, profit from when you bought it, you pay tax. That's.
>> Tim Wildmon: Don't you, don't you get one freebie on that?
>> Steve Jordahl: I think maybe you, ah, do.
>> Tim Wildmon: Talking about selling your house and making a profit. I think you get one or once every five years. Just, you can. Anyway, go ahead.
>> Steve Jordahl: Just, just for, For a, a comparison. China's capital gains tax is 20%. Europe, the average capital gains tax is 17.9. 18%. Democrats are just addicted to spending. They think they can do it and do it, do it, and no bad things are going to happen.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I got news for you, brother Republicans.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Yeah, exactly.
>> Steve Jordahl: I think you're right.
>> Tony Vitagliano: I know when my wife and I sit down and look at the budget together, our first thought is, how do we spend more money?
>> Tim Wildmon: That's the first thought. Yeah.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: How can we get another?
>> Tony Vitagliano: We're in the hole.
>> Tim Wildmon: We need one more credit card.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Same amount of money. Yeah, no, look, instead of. Instead of obviously cutting, spending, which is what actually needs to happen, everybody's just grasping at straws to try and keep the. Keep the boat going for as long as they can keep the train going before something breaks.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Denmark. Recently, was it Denmark that passed attacks on unrealized capital gains?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, they talked about that here.
>> Tony Vitagliano: Absolutely unhinged.
>> Steve Jordahl: So.
Well, all right. Show's over. Thank you, Tim, for having me off
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, all right. Thank you, Tony. Thank you, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Pleasure.
>> Tim Wildmon: Thanks to, Fred Jackson, Brent Creely, our producer. Cole Greene, our videographer. I don't know who made the popcorn
>> Steve Jordahl: today, but cast of thousands.
>> Tim Wildmon: I have. They have, great gratitude.
>> Speaker D: Thank you, Tim, for having me off,
>> Tony Vitagliano: giving me a moment to speak.
>> Tim Wildmon: Tony. Let's calm it down there, brother. It's okay. Show's over. but good. You did it great. He did a great James Carville, very good on three Red Bulls. All right, we'll see you tomorrow, everybody.
