Welcome to Pirate Money Radio with your host, Kevan Freeman, helping you unpack the economic headlines and providing real money solutions.
Kevin Freeman: Ahoy, mates. Welcome aboard another voyage of Pirate Money Radio, the show that sails against the storms of fiat tyranny, cultural confusion, and counterfeit ideas to chart a course toward liberty, security, and values built on biblical truth. I'm your captain, Kevan Freeman, coming to you from the heart of Texas.
Mike Carter: And I'm, Mike Carter.
The Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse and Early Observations
Last week on this ship, we walked through three days in September. You know, Charlie, the towers, the signing in Philadelphia, if you missed it, the story standalone. This hour is the book those dates demanded. And I'm excited to get into that, Kevan, today. This is powerful. This book is a game changer in helping people really understand what's going on and. And what we need to be doing.
Kevin Freeman: it's the Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse and our Six Trials by Fire. The foreword is written by Dr. Ben Carson. It's dedicated in the memory of Charlie Kirk. And there are three things in it that were not in my last book, and basically, they're not in most of the threat literature. And we're gonna name those three revelations, tell how they got onto the page, and then we're gonna take them to the kitchen table, how they impact your family.
Mike Carter: Yeah. And let's start, in the studio, September 11, 2024, here at Liberty Hawk Ranch. the anniversary morning of a time we still flinch. tell us more about that.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. So September 11, 2024, would have been, what, 23 years after 9? 11. And Charlie Kirk was 30 years old.
Charlie Kirk's Concerns About National Suicide and Historical Parallels
He was already one of the most consequential voices in the nation. And we taped an economic war room episode, number 312. And we kept talking after the cameras. And I asked him about a life or death struggle for liberty, because he could see it. He's 30 years old, and he can see how much has changed.
Mike Carter: Yeah. And, Kevan, there was something that I remember you actually stopped and wrote something down. It's unusual for you. Usually you just take it all in your mind. You're like, I gotta get this and write it down. What was it you wrote down?
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. Well, let's roll the clip. Charlie put it best in his own words.
Charlie Kirk: We are following to a T every single hallmark characteristic of how a nation decides to no longer exist.
Identifying the Hallmarks of National Decline and Generational Differences in Perspective
Mass migration, open borders, decline of virtue and moral standards, an obliteration of the family or the nuclear family unit, hyper centralization of government power, adventurous, unnecessary foreign wars and debasing of the currency. Rome followed the same pattern British Empire, similar pattern. We are doing that to a T. And we're also ignoring the concerns of the domestic citizen and prioritizing the foreigner.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. You know, and I then pointed out to Charlie, historian Arthur Toynbee, because he said great civilizations are not murdered. They take their own lives. And so we were talking about the same things, but he pointed out the four horsemen right there.
Mike Carter: Yeah, yeah. And Charlie Kirk listed the hallmarks of what that looks like.
Charlie Kirk: Kevan.
Mike Carter: or, Russell, can we get that other clip up?
Charlie Kirk: And so it's very interesting that I think younger people reject the premise of an American suicide. I think they say, why would we want to kill this country? I'm 18, I want a future. Boomers are fine with American suicide. Right? Perfectly M. Many of them. Right. I get so much hate mail when I say this, but it's true. They have authored, perfected, and overseen a slow motion American suicide for 40 years. So why would they stop? Right. Young people say, no, I don't own a home. I'm not yet married. Everything's unaffordable. I don't want to go get drafted in World War iii. I. I reject the premise. And that is our message. Yeah.
Mike Carter: And Kevan, I think you added coinage to his list.
The Role of Debased Currency and the Four Horsemen: Communism, Islam, Globalism, and Traitors
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, no, he listed the things that we're doing wrong. you know, open borders and so forth. But every great society that has fallen has also debased its coinage because the free stuff that they promise has to be paid for somehow. And that's the theme of the book. It starts off with Alexander Fraser Tytler.
Mike Carter: Ah.
Kevin Freeman: Who says that, you know, the great societies end, when they debase the coinage by offering, you know, you can get free stuff from the public treasury. So Charlie put that on his list, and then he went off and said the beautiful. The beautiful is a choice in front of us. Listen to what he said.
Charlie Kirk: Every person that loves liberty has two things in common. They know that there is a God and we are not him. Every person who hates liberty does not believe either of those things.
Mike Carter: Yeah. And Kevan, after the camera, as you talked to them about that red and the green. and this is the conversation people are asking for out there.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. No, Charlie had it very clear. And you can see in his last speeches and last discussions, he said, there's a red horse, communism, and there's a green horse, Islam. And where political Islam or the authoritative Islam or the Islam where people want to kill other infidels and all of that, take over the world, establish a caliphate and establish Sharia law.
Expanding the Threats: Globalism, Vaccine Mandates, and the Role of Traitors
He said, Those are the two great threats. And I said, charlie, you got to add to that. We need to add a blue horse, which is the globalist despotism that we see in the World Economic Forum. That's the Klaus Schwab. You'll own nothing and eat bugs and, and you'll be happy. And we'll have open borders. It's the. You're going to take the, the vaccine because we tell you to. You're going to, you have to do it. And we're going to shut your church down, but we're going to open up the gambling casino in the, you know, those things. It was that we had to add. And then we added a last one. Charlie alluded to it, but it's a yellow horse, which is our traitors, the cowards and our fools. And Charlie said, all right, Kevan, I want you to do something. I want you to build the Saving Civilization Action Network.
Mike Carter: Scan.
Kevin Freeman: Scan aimed at all four. And he was going to. I was going to write the book. He was going to write the Ford.
Mike Carter: Yeah. And a year later, he's gone. you know, a few weeks ago, we honored the date. this week we honor that assignment. Kevan, how do we move that scan piece forward?
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, well, the three revelations were the assignment we needed to have. The first revelation we just covered Rgby. Red, green, blue, yellow, August 15, 1971, which is the second revelation. And the third is that the six trials by fire which we'll get into, they're a loop. They're not just a list of things. They're trials that mutually reinforce one another. It's like a vicious cycle. It's a self reinforcing prophecy.
Mike Carter: Yeah, yeah. I'm excited with what you have in the book here. the book's out now. People can get it. I guess they can learn more. You'll get into all that stuff later on, but this is powerful stuff and I'll make sure our audience captures what's going on here. Let's talk a little bit more about that. Red, green, blue, yellow.
Kevin Freeman: Well, that was Charlie's mission and that's what he charged us with to start scans, saving civilization. I was in a regular and ongoing chat with him. I won't release all of the details of that chat, but it was running up until the moment he was shot. And it was, how do we save civilization? And Western civilization depends on America. And he was very crystal clear on that. And the red, the green, the blue and the yellow are the threats that we're going to have to Address the yellow being us. as Lincoln said, nobody's going to take over America. As, Toynbee said, civilizations, die by suicide. As Titler said, civilizations fail when people learn that they can vote themselves largesse out of the public treasury. Those four combining. And if we didn't have the yellow opening the door to the other three, we wouldn't have a problem. But we have traders, cowards and fools that will sell it to communist China. I mean, just imagine, hey, if you'll move your plant here, we'll cut your costs and you'll make a bigger profit. So they move the plant and they steal the intellectual property. I just read about another example of that happening this morning on blueberries. They stole everything. And now there's Chinese blueberries going around the world because they stole all their technological know how and so forth. We'll save you money. And the traitors, cowards and fools sell out America to go to communist China.
Mike Carter: You know, why does yellow change the whole page here? Kevan, you've got kind of an interesting analogy with that. but the yellow is the traitors. That's the pieces that we can stop. that's the piece we can make a difference. But tell us a little bit more about how yellow changes this thing.
Kevin Freeman: Well, you can't vote out Beijing, the Muslim Brotherhood, or Davos and Klaus Schwab, but you can vote out yellow. And you can take actions to offset yellow. And you can do it with your spending and just, how you spend your money. And there are three things you can do with your money. You can give it, you can spend it, or you can invest it. Here at Pirate Money Radio, we work to explain solutions supporting all three areas in a way that promotes liberty, security, and values. Patriot Mobile, it's a mobile phone company. They support the Pirate Money radio program. Patriot Mobile uses US carriers, including AT&T, Verizon and T Mobile, and operates on both Apple and Android phones. More information about the economic war room and Patri Mobile is [email protected] afr and so you're going to be a traitor, coward, or fool if you are not using your money as good stewards of God's provision.
Mike Carter: Yeah, yeah. So, you know, but that, but that yellow piece, there's the, you know, the RGBY display. Can you talk a little bit about that? Yeah, you gave me that at lunch the other day, and I'm like, okay, that's an amazing way to help people understand what's going on here.
Kevin Freeman: Traditionally monitors color monitors are built on red, green and blue rgb. Well, the engineers at Sharp said we're going to add yellow to that monitor. And they found that it increased clarity, it made the colors pop. You could see them more readily. And so I use that analogy. By adding the domestic, the traitors, cowards and fools, we better understand the communist threat, the Muslim Islamic threat, and the globalist threat. It changes everything.
Mike Carter: the yellow, when it gets brighter though, what's it do?
Kevin Freeman: It eliminates the entire color spectrum. In other words, if you just blame China, you don't see the congressman that's voting to take your tax dollars to support the Chinese. If you don't see the yellow. so we're going to talk about. This is more than a money show. We're going to talk about binding the story strongman from a spiritual perspective. But we're gonna have to take a break before we do that and we'll talk about when this all started. We'll be right back.
Mike Carter: Welcome back to Pirate Money Radio with your host, Kevan Freeman.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, I'm joined by the great Mike Carter. Mike, we were talking about before the break what, it means to have the sharpness of understanding by recognizing that it's our fault too. We can't just blame this on somebody over there. You can't just say it's the, it's, you know, if you're Republican, you can't just say it's the Democrats. If you're American, you can't just say it's the Chinese. You have to realize that our actions impact and really do make a difference. Yeah.
Mike Carter: You know, I look at the title of this book, the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, the server wall over here and the Six Trials by fire, and it's easy to say, wow, this is like straight out of Revelation. but your book is really about the American Apocalypse.
Examining Central Bank Digital Currency and the Concept of Binding the Strongman
It's not to be confused with the end of the world. But it's interesting how they kind of line up and you can see how it could set, set up for what's in that book of Revelation.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, no, we borrow the analogy because it's a well known thought. and we call it the Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse. And we're not predicting the end of the world from this, although there are themes in it that sure look like the Revelation. Central bank digital currency is a good example to where you can't buy or sell unless you submit. Is that the mark of the beast? We had that with the Cove shot. You won't be able to work you're not allowed to work unless you take the COVID shot it alludes to. So we take themes or ideas from that, but we take them really practically down, to what we're facing today. And we took another biblical theme there. that is the strongman. Did you catch that part?
Mike Carter: The strongman? In terms of. What do you mean by catching it?
Kevin Freeman: All right. So binding the strong man. I think that's in Mark, chapter three. you can't plunder a strong man's house unless you first bind him. That's Jesus talking. And America, in a sense, is the strong man of the world. And so we have to be bound from the outside or divided from within at the same time. And the horsemen, the four ones. Communism, the ccp. Unrestricted warfare. That's the red. they want to beat the economy and the will. And they're not after our carrier group. Not yet. they're not after our military capabilities. They want to beat us. Ah, from internally dividing us or using others against us.
Mike Carter: And it's working.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, it's everywhere. There. The green they wrote about in this book, Unrestricted Warfare, they wrote about Osama bin Laden as somebody that they could use. They also wrote about George Soros so Osama bin Laden would represent the green. I want to establish a global caliphate. I want everybody under Sharia law. I'm not talking anybody's personal faith. I'm talking their political ideology. You want to go in your home, own home, and say prayers five times a day facing Mecca, you're welcome to do that. You want to take over my street and block traffic and take over the street? I'm not so good with that. You want to play your Muslim call to prayer five times a day. That I have to hear it. I don't feel comfortable with that. You want to force a woman to be value of half of a man? I don't feel good about that. You want to do all those things under Sharia? that's the political ideology. And blue, which is George Soros was mentioned in unrestricted warfare as a globalist. Taking down currencies and forcing, Doing all these. They called him a financial terrorist. I'm not calling him that. They called him in their book. but it's also esg, programmable money, all of those things. That's the blue horse art. Allie said a dollar a third party can restrict is not a dollar that you're stewarding. We can't have government telling us how we have to spend our money. We have to have God's Word and stewardship principles telling us how to do it. And then the yellow horse, that's the blue horse, and the yellow horse is the fools who refuse to see the cowards who will not act, the traitors who, who choose the other side. Every other horse needs the yellow horse to open the gate for them.
Mike Carter: Scary stuff, Kevan.
Solutions for National Challenges: Sound Money, Gold, Silver, and Spiritual Warfare
There's solutions to all this, though, correct?
Kevin Freeman: That's what the book is about. Probably a third of the book is solutions, practically what we do. And it will be no surprise, to this listening, audience, that transactional, gold and silver and honest money is a huge part of the solution that is not restricted or controlled by the federal government or foreign governments.
Mike Carter: Yeah. And it's been amazing. You told me what you're going to be doing with this book, Kevan. I was blown away by the topics and the way you're aligning the pieces there. and of course, especially excited when you said, and part of the solution is transactional gold. And it is. So thank you for the Lord giving you the wisdom on how we can do these solutions and move forward.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. Well, General Boykin, he wrote a nice note. He says, if you'll not see the stone spiritual war, you'll misread every other war. And the transactional gold and silver has a hugely spiritual component. And we're going to talk about that. And we're going to talk about the day, the day when all of the bad things were unleashed. we know the day and we'll point it out right after the break.
Mike Carter: Pirate Money Radio, helping you give, spend and invest in ways that align with liberty, security and values. Welcome back with your host, Kevan Freeman,
Kevin Freeman: and I'm joined by the great Mike Carter. We're talking about a new book that is just published. It was published on September 10th of this year to honor Charlie Kirk. Dedicated to Charlie Kirk. But it's got three powerful revelations, and the first of these is that American cowardice opened the door to the threats that we have now. Revelation to when and how it all started.
Mike Carter: Yeah, I think that's one of the key insights that I've never seen anybody else connect the dots to. Kevan. all four horses were released when we did one thing in 1971. Tell us more about that.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, well, Charlie Kirk, he agreed to put debased currency on his list of how you commit national suicide. and basically we debased our currency on one specific day. And I can tell you what led to that. But on August 15, 1971, on a Sunday night, Richard Nixon, president closed the gold window he said it was a temporary, thing. We just got to deal with a few things. We will no longer back US Dollars with gold for foreign nations. He said it was temporary, it was permanent. he promised the dollar would be worth just as much tomorrow. But within a decade, it lost more than half its value. The cards that he had to play, though, were dealt with in 1913, 1933, 1968, then he had to cut the cord. In 1913, we established the Federal Reserve, in 1933. well, 1933 is when FDR confiscated everybody's gold. And in 1968, he literally, President Nixon cut the cord so there was no more connection. And so you look at the 1928 Federal Reserve note, put it on the screen, and you can see that it says, redeemable in gold on demand, literally or for awful money. What it's saying is, this isn't gold. This is just a representation of it.
Mike Carter: Yeah, it was a certificate of deposit. Right. There was gold that's standing behind that. That's what it was. It was not just a continental as, Benjamin Franklin talked about.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, now I'm going to have to rush through these. When we walked away from the gold standard, four things happened. Nixon realized we had massive inflation. So he rushed to the Chinese, met with Chairman Mao in February of 1972. That unleashed the red horse. He said, hey, will you build us cheap stuff and send it to us if we give you money? And know how. China was not a large economy at the time. We made them a large economy and made them a threat because we no longer backed the dollar with gold. And then we financed the adversary, the green, through the petrodollar. We went to Saudi Arabia and struck a deal. King. Here's, what. We'll protect you if you'll price all your oil in, dollars. And then send the surplus to our treasury and invest a lot of money in America, which they open mosques with their investment. And we unleashed the blue horse. That was the red horse, the green horse, the blue horse. The same year Klaus Schwab formed the World Economic Forum. He loved fiat money, and he saw that separating. That opened the door for financializing our economy and putting us under a technocracy. And unleashed the United Nations. And then the yellow horse. People learned they could borrow, speculate, and buy votes with the future, with our kids, balance sheets, the traitors, cowards, and fools were all unleashed at that same time.
Mike Carter: So we've seen the enemy, and he is us. We're letting these things happen.
Kevin Freeman: We did, and it all started August 15, 1971. A day that should go down in infamy as a day as disastrous as Pearle harbor or 9 11. All of those bad things that happened came as a result of not being free with our unrighteous mammon. Luke 16:11 says, Unless you're faithful with unrighteous mammon, you will not be trusted with true riches. We've seen our liberty, our security and our values all under assault from the day that we walked away with backing our money with gold. That's where you have abortion, taking off, prayer removed from schools. All those bad things happen in conjunction with that same notion. We can print as much money as we want, spend it how we want to. That's how that got on Charlie Kirk's.
Mike Carter: And too often we're overwhelmed. We're working day to day at the kitchen table just trying to pay bills. We're not seeing what's going on. What this book does is says, here's what's happening and here's what you can be doing.
Kevin Freeman: It shows the big picture, and that's the revelation. It all started when we stopped being faithful with our unrighteous mammon. Charlie Kirk saw it. He said, when you debase your currency, your nation fails. It's on the suicide watch list. All right, we're going to have to take another break. When we come back, we're going to talk about the six trials of fire we're going through now. They're. They're a chain, they're a vicious cycle, they're a feedback loop. And we'll discuss them when we come back after this break.
Mike Carter: Welcome to Pirate Money Radio with your host, Kevan Freeman, helping you unpack the economic headlines and providing real money solutions.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, I'm talking with Mike Carter. We're talking about my new book. It's really Charlie's in my new book, the Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse. It's dedicated to him. A lot of the ideas came from him. A lot of the solutions come from him. but those six trials by fire, that's something that's different. When we unleashed the four horses, they've started fires here in America. And the six trials, we brought some of it on ourselves. So the three big revelations we're talking about is, number one, that there's a yellow horse. In addition to the red, green, blue, there's a yellow horse, and that's us. the second revelation is they were all unleashed August 15, 1971, and they
Mike Carter: closed the gold window.
Kevin Freeman: Yes. And now the third revolution is the six trials by fire. Array, feedback, loop. They're not just six separate trials.
Mike Carter: Yeah, I think that's kind of important for people as we go through this. Each one leads to the next problem. but let's explain that, Kevan, so that a high schooler can, when we're starting back to school now, I want the high schoolers to go back and, talk in their economic classes or their history class and say, let me tell you what's really happening out there.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. So they actually circle back and feed each other so that one starts ignites another, which ignites another, which ignites another, but then they go back to the original one and it's just a negative, vicious cycle.
Mike Carter: And it's all designed to attack the dollar.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, yeah, you start with the dollar. Once we left the gold window, there was no limit on what Washington could spend. If you have to have as we did prior to 1968 when Johnson ended the gold backing, Nixon ended gold convertibility. Gold backing was ended by Lyndon Johnson. He said, I want to go to Vietnam M and I want to go and support that. And I also want to have a war on poverty and I want to have a great society. And so he was just spending money like crazy. He was the original modern monetary theorist. Well, to do that, you can't say that every dollar has to be back 40 cents worth of gold. So he just said, ah, it doesn't have to have any backing. And when he did that, it opened the door for Washington to borrow everything that they want. And that created a trial one, which is our debt bomb. We have $40,000,000,000 in debt from 400,000,000 in 1971 to 40,000,100 fold in debt.
Mike Carter: Didn't it go up just in the last seven months, like a trillion dollars?
Kevin Freeman: It is going up exponentially because interest rates and that. So if you have 40 trillion in debt and interest is 5%, which it is now, then you have 2 trillion a year just in interest. Well, that's consuming 40% of all our tax receipts by itself. So Washington's borrowing and spending, which leads
Mike Carter: to trial number two, the dollar attack.
Kevin Freeman: Right? So people look inside and they say, yeah, my dollar doesn't buy very much. And so the dollar's under attack domestically. We feel it is inflation. Outside the United States, they say, do I trust the dollar anymore? Do I want to hold dollar reserves and U.S. treasury bonds? I'm not going to buy their debt. I'm not going to finance, America. And that's what Charles de Gaulle said 1971, he said, I want gold and that's when Nixon closed the gold window. Sorry, buddy, you can't have gold. You're stuck with dollars. And so the dollar attacks have been going on since then. China is selling down their treasury holdings. The Islamists are telling they're faithful to sell dollars and buy gold instead. The share of the world reserves in our papers at the lowest point since 1995, gold has passed treasuries as the largest reserve asset on earth. That's happening right now.
Mike Carter: So central banks, other countries are all doing less dollars, buying more gold. that seems like a natural right thing to do in some respects. What does America do?
Kevin Freeman: Well, here's the thing is if we can't finance our debt with foreigners, we have to finance it internally. And the Federal Reserve says, you know, I can create money more efficiently and maybe have better control on it. We'll just. The next crisis we have, dollar crisis, will create a central bank digital currency. It'll be programmable money. That'll be their answer. And they'll say, look, we give it and we take it away. Government is the creator of money. It'll be much worse than paper money. You won't even know. and they'll be able to turn off your money at will. We've talked about this before. The red communism, they pioneered a digital yuan with, social credit scores. The blue is promoting the central bank digital currency. The yellow, the traders, cowards and fools. They're going to go along with it. Congress has stopped it for now, but how long will that last in a crisis? They'll say no. Our solution, here's your programmable money, and
Mike Carter: we'll be happy to get that money because, well, we don't have anything else. I need to buy groceries. I need to do this. So, oh, yes, please, give me some of that programmable money. But let's go to the next part of that. All of a sudden, that programmable money, they can determine how you spend that money, where you spend that money. Your church, maybe it's a hate group now. you can't use it for that, right?
Kevin Freeman: Your church is not a hate group, but they may call it a hate group because you say marriage is between one man and one woman, and that the problem is that they're going to, and that's the third trial. They're going to create central bank digital currency at some point, and that's a trial. And the next trial that's going to lead to is it's going to be haves and have nots. they're going to create the money, it's not going to arrive evenly. And this is the cancel on effect, correct?
Mike Carter: Yeah. People closest to the money benefit from it. The rest of us, as it drips down like honey. by the time we finally get it, we're saying, man, everything costs so much more now. Whereas when at the top, I was
Kevin Freeman: able to buy before that prices go up before your salary goes up. But the people close to the money supply, Mark Zuckerberg is in those types, they can profit from this. Cause they get the new money and they invest in assets that go up in value. If you depend more on your earned wages than you do on stock returns, you're gonna be hurt. And that's the cancel on effect.
Mike Carter: And we talked a little bit about that in the Social Security segment a week or two ago. You know, if that money becomes worth less and less because they gotta pay off the debt, those are things working against everyday Americans.
Kevin Freeman: That's the fourth trial. The people nearest to the press get the M units first. The paycheck gets them last after prices have moved. That's a wealth gap. Dr. Carson says that's the gap that the Red is using to sell socialism to our kids. And Dr. Carson wrote the forward, and he wrote that that wealth gap created by unsound money is why kids are saying, hey, maybe socialism makes sense, maybe Islam makes sense.
Mike Carter: Scary, scary stuff. we've got ways to address that. One of them is fair weights and measures with gold and silver. We'll get into that a little bit later on. But focusing on this loop, the next one is demographic destiny.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, no, it is. Because if you're not making money enough, you say, ah, two income family. We got to, I can't work and my wife has to work too. And you know, maybe we delay marriage, maybe we delay having kids. And that's literally demographic destiny. 100 years ago, people would have, get married at age 20 and have a baby by age 21. They can have a lot of kids in their fertile years. If you wait till you're 29 and 29 and a half like the average today, and then you wait three years to have a kid. You're 33. When you have your first child, guess what? You're not going to have very many of them. So the fertility rate in America is 1.6 and declining. You need 2.1 to replenish your population. So literally because of money, people say, I can't afford to buy a house. They're waiting till they're 40 years old. But if they were priced in gold. If they used gold as their money, the cost of housing's gone down, not up. So money is the barrier and that
Mike Carter: leads to the next one and just go back. That's hard for people to understand. The price of housing's gone down. If you look at the value in gold versus the value in dollars, it absolutely. Builders have gotten more efficient. All that's been out there is regulations and things that have increased costs. But dollar versus gold, you would have a tremendous house today.
Kevin Freeman: Gold was real money up until 1933 when it was confiscated. If you got your wages paid you in gold and you held the gold like you hold dollars and you saved in gold, you could buy more houses today than you could in 1971. But in paper, in US dollars, nope, nope. Way more expensive. That leads to then trial number six. We're not having babies. And so what do we need to do at the low end? We've got to bring in workers who will pick the produce. So you want workers to clean your house? We're going to import them. And that was the big, it's called replacement migration. But it's also at the high end. Oh, I'm going to go get a college degree and I'm going to be a doctor or I'm going to be a really good coder and computers and learn all of those things. And guess what? The immigration system is also geared to bringing in the high end as well. And we're seeing this with the H1B visas. If we had the babies that were aborted alive today, we would have more than enough workers to grow and build our economy. More than enough to cover Social Security. They're going to do massive Social Security cuts because our population has been shrinking and we have fewer workers paying for the retirees. All of this is a feedback loop. They all lead one to another. It increases our debt. Our debt has grown 100 fold. Our economy has grown 25 fold since we left the gold standard. We have $40 trillion this August in debt. That's the problem we have. And these are self reinforcing.
Mike Carter: Yeah. You know Kevan, what I appreciate about this book is again, this is not tinfoil hat stuff. We're not here to try and sell gold or silver or anything else. We're here to protect liberty, security and values. And this is a well documented, you've sourced everything. This feedback loop is reality and what's happening today. So thank you for what you've done with us.
Kevin Freeman: Well, no, thank you for what you've done to Help make transactional gold and silver reality. Charlie Kirk was a big supporter and endorser of it. He endorsed my book, Pirate Money. He called legislators and, state senators and governors. I text him, say, charlie, would you call? And he said, sure, I'll call him and encourage them. And he did. it's kind of an amazing thing. All right, when we come out, we're going to talk about real practical solutions. How do you deal with this? This isn't a fairy tale. This isn't something in the far off future. This is something happening now. And we'll cover it right after this break.
Mike Carter: Welcome back to Pirate Money Radio with your host, Kevan Freeman.
Kevin Freeman: We're talking about the four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse under six trials by fire. This is the literally. Gosh, how many pages is this? Over 400 pages. And it's got 800 plus, footnotes. And all of this came from conversations with Charlie Kirk over a course of a year before he was killed.
Mike Carter: I wonder if this is 400 pages. But again, Kevan, you do great at making it easy to read, easy to understand. It's not an economics book. It's not a heavy geopolitical book, but it helps, the average person be able to understand, say, wow, I get what's going on. And I now understand what types of things I need to be doing.
Kevin Freeman: And what we need to be doing includes how we handle our money and if we make gold and silver legal tender again under the Constitution. And we did that in July in, Florida. That became law in September. The beginning of the laws happened September 1st in Texas, Missouri.
Mike Carter: It's law. In fact, we were just at the NASDAQ conference and heard from a deputy treasurer. I understand how to make this work now, which is amazing.
Kevin Freeman: It's coming. It's coming for you right now, regardless of which state you're in. And for full disclosure, we've invested in a solutions provider and support for this program comes from Glint. It's a financial technology service offering with a debit card and mobile app that enables users to access gold holdings for everyday purchases. With Glint, users maintain ownership of allocated physical gold, which is stored in a managed vault. And at the time of transaction, gold is sold in real time and to cover the purchase amount in local currency, Glint offers an alternative way to store and use the value. Combining gold and silver with modern payment infrastructure, Glint clients can monitor their goal balance, view transaction history, and manage their account through the Glint app, available on major mobile platforms. More details about how vaulted physical gold can be used as money are [email protected] gold 2, 4, 7. That's happening now. And it's breaking from this idea that we use fiat currency that has been a blight on humanity going back to the founding of this nation when the colonies were, breaking from the Crown, the British Crown. They broke from the Crown's fake paper money. They wouldn't fund their revolution with king's receipts. They reached for Spanish gold doubloons and Spanish milled dollars. Pieces of eight. If you cut a dollar into eight bits, you have two bits, four bits, eight. Eight bits a dollar. That coin was the money of the Atlantic world. Some of it, in colonial tills, had, in fact, come off Spanish ships by privateers. Those were prizes. And the culture called it pirate money because that's what a free people will hold when the official paper is a leash trying to control them.
Mike Carter: And then they printed our own paper money anyway.
Kevin Freeman: Ben Franklin is guilty. Yes. Continental Congress printed it to fight the war. There was nothing behind it. so Franklin and his team realized what a failure it was. Article one, Section ten was put in. Ah. They listed a dollar. That was pirate money. It was Spanish milled dollars. And they put it in our Constitution.
Mike Carter: Yeah. You know, Kevan, I noticed the government's been pushing, for their citizens to buy gold, real physical metal.
Kevin Freeman: in China.
Mike Carter: Yeah. Yeah, in China. Maybe the CCP understands the history lesson from the Constitution better than our American politicians. I hope that's not the case. We're trying to educate them on that.
Kevin Freeman: 22 months the Chinese, have official gold buying, increasing treasuries holdings, have been cut to levels not seen since 2008. State television has been telling their people to buy metal, and they've done that since 2010. This year, they squeezed paper, gold contracts and left physical alone. They said, buy physical metal, not the paper version of gold. And they watched Russia's reserves frozen with the phone call. So they said, we're going to depend on gold and silver, not on US Dollars. But now, based on your work, we now have six states that allow you to use gold and silver as money. And we talked about Glint. Glint just opened a vault in Miami for gold and silver, for people to spend it. So it's not in Switzerland only anymore. It can be here in the United States.
Mike Carter: I can have a choice. Where do I want it? I can have it in Switzerland. I can have it in Florida. Pretty soon I'll be out of it in Texas. I can have it in Missouri. So on an app, I'll be able to move My gold to where I want to have it. And I can go from gold to silver to dollars. That's the way the system works.
Kevin Freeman: Yep. And The Texas Rails, September 1st. Florida. It was unanimous. Utah's doing it. Look, this is Charlie Kirk understood this was a solution that people couldn't afford to have babies.
Preserving the American Dream: The Role of Sound Money in Family and National Prosperity
And he tweeted, he said more people should get married young and have more kids than they can afford. But he also wanted us to have gold and silver so they could afford to have more babies. That's the American dream. Dr. Carson opened this book and says no other nation has it. There's no China dream. There's no Japan dream or Brazil dream. There's an American dream. How do we keep the American dream alive? That's why I wrote the book the Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse. If you want more information for the number four Horseman book dot com, we're going to have to take another break. When we come back, we're going to talk more about the solutions from this book and what we can do in our everyday lives. We'll be right back.
Mike Carter: Pirate Money Radio. Helping you give, spend and invest in ways that align with liberty, security, and values. Welcome back with your host, Kevan Freeman,
Kevin Freeman: and thank you so much for joining us. We're talking about three revelations from my new book, Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse and our six trials by fire. more information can be [email protected] that's the number four horseman book.com and the three revelations, the three news items, I think from there. Number one, Charlie Kirk, when he was with us, he said, the threat is red and green. It's communism and Islam. And I said, charlie, we've got to add globalism, the blue and yellow, which is our own traitors, cowards, and fools. And the second Revelation. We tied the opening of all of this. When did it get unleashed? It was a Sunday Night in 1971. And that's when we left the gold standard. And we drew the loop so that you can see where we have to cut it. And the loop is the six trials by fire, self reinforcing. The founders understood this. That's why they put in gold and silver, the four horsemen. They're riding now. The house, it's. It's still standing for now. But how do we preserve it and protect it and pass it to future generations? That's our challenge. And that was the challenge of the book. And I think we've got some good solutions to it.
Mike Carter: It's excellent. I'm just reading through the book here. Charlie's verse shared in this book is Joshua 1:9. Be strong and courageous. That's a great choice in front of us. And now is the time to be strong and courageous and to make sure we're taking the right steps to make sure the sun is rising, to make sure that, And we're taking care of our family. To make sure we're protecting liberty, security and values. And that means each one of us needs to be involved in the process, the solutions and getting involved to make sure we're protecting, this great gift God has given us now.
Kevin Freeman: And we're talking, I use the biblical analogy, the four horsemen of the Apocalypse. Clearly we're not talking about the book of Revelation. I'm not trying to be prophetic here, although there's some prophetic elements to it. What we're talking about is the four horsemen of the American Apocalypse, what might kill and destroy America. And I'll tell you what kills and destroys America. God laid it out. Look it up in Deuteronomy, I lay before you. Life and death, a blessing and a curse. Choose. It's a choice. Charlie said the beautiful is in front of us. We can choose the beautiful, which is life. But it's also. When you look at a nation under a blessing, they lend to other nations. What is our nation doing? We're borrowing from anyone we can. 40 trillion in debt. We need China. We need Japan. We need Germany. We need everybody. Finance our debt. Buy our dollars. Well, that's not a nation under a blessing. Nation under a curse. You know what they find? They find the alien shall live among you and will rise higher and higher while the citizen falls lower and lower. And we have traitors, cowards and fools. The yellow horse we talk about here, that's opened the door for the alien to live among us. And we're literally selling our nation to them. The communist phrase is they'll sell us the rope which. With which we hang down.
Mike Carter: Yeah, yeah. And can you imagine, Kevan? I mean, this is hypothetical. Obviously you can. But imagine a time where we don't have control of our money. We don't have economic freedom. you have programmable money. They tell us how we can spend it, what we can do with it. That's what this book is designed to help people say. This is where it's headed. This is the roadmap. This is what we need to do to make sure it doesn't happen.
Kevin Freeman: Both national. How do we vote? Politicians that will support the national thing, supporting liberty, security and values. How do we, how do we stand up and speak up and so forth. But also personal. How does my family address this? I want to be prepared. It says in proverbs, in two different proverbs, it says, the prudent sees trouble coming, but the fool goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Anybody who looks around them can see trouble coming with the debt and with inflation and all the things. How do you protect your family? And I wanted to get down to that. And how do we actually get down and protect our family? And pirate money. It's pirate money Radio. Pirate money is a big part of that transactional gold and silver. And Mike, you're here because you've gone state by state with Lori Bolton and our good friends and colleagues, Pro Family Legislative Network and the national association of Christian Lawmakers. And Alex, we've just got some great
Mike Carter: state legislators across the country that understand this. They've been out, many of them have been out to the ranch now to learn more about it. and we've got a whole movement of legislators that we've got to get this done in our state.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. So if you want more information, we've covered a lot of the topics here. But if you want more information about the book, you can visit at your choice or leisure for the number4horseman book dot com. That's a place you can get more information. We've had a great time talking about it and I'm so thankful for our real life audience. You all are terrific. We get great feedback from you. So stay faithful, stay free. That's my challenge to you. But if you're listening on a podcast or American family radio, we want you to stay tuned. We've got one wrap up segment. Again, this is Kevan Freeman and Mike Carter. We appreciate you so much at Real life. you're terrific. And Learn more from information4horsemenbook.com we'll be right back after this break for AFR and podcast.
Mike Carter: Welcome back to Pirate Money Radio with your host, Kevan Freeman.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. And I'm joined by Mike Carter. And I always feel like this is the wrap up bonus segment. If you're on American family radio or on the podcast. You know, sometimes on TV shows really, they end the story arc and then they roll the credits and then they sometimes they'll have that last little tiny bonus segment. That's our bonus segment for you. We're so grateful for you. we've told the truth about how the book started. Ah. About a young man on the anniversary of his martyrdom. We released the book how you Know, a year prior to him being killed, we talked about the four Horsemen. He had two horses, red and green. We added blue and yellow. We talked about a date in 1971. We talked about the feedback loop of the six trials by fire, how they just, add to one another. And then we talk about a coin, gold and silver, that our founders already trusted. And the good news is that the founders left us a treasure map to get back to sound money.
Mike Carter: Yeah, treasure map. And again, this is a practical solution. We don't sell the gold and silver you've mentioned before, we do make an investment in a company to help implement this thing. Now. but it's simple. I mean, you basically take money. You hold physical gold in a vault. That's your gold. It's not the state's gold. It's not the application's gold. It's your physical gold held there. And you can spend it anywhere. It takes a debit card. it's a beautiful solution. we have Article 1, Section 10, that says states can have legal tender as long as it's gold and silver. And now we have the technology today to make it happen. and, Kevan, this builds the case on why this is so important. Because you've said before, the best thing we can do is we can get as much gold and silver in America versus these other countries.
Kevin Freeman: That'll protect the dollar. It's not against the dollar. That'll protect the dollar. And just a perfect example, Mike, you and I and Jason, the founder of Glint, were having lunch. He bought her lunch, which was very nice. And then I stepped up and said, I'll buy us some banana splits at the local ice cream shop. He said, I don't have time. I've got to catch a plane. Perhaps we could have dessert here. And so we stopped at the steakhouse and ordered dessert, and I got the
Mike Carter: bill, and we were at the steakhouse. So I was like, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Freeman: We had three desserts, and I looked at the bill at $60 plus tip, and I'm like, oh, my gosh. I was at that same steakhouse five years earlier, and three people could eat dessert for $25 plus tip. I was like, this is outrageous. But then Jason, pointed out that I bought silver in Miami on his app that morning. and I was able to spend one ounce of silver. That same one ounce of silver five years earlier was $25. So one ounce of silver five years ago bought three desserts at the Fancy Steakhouse. And then five years later, same ounce of silver bought three desserts. So I'm grateful for that.
Mike Carter: It's a practical solution. I believe it's something God's given us for such a time as this. Honored to be part of the team that's working to help make this happen. and just great to get all the pieces put together in one book. Kevan, this is an easy to read book with no tinfoil hat. Well documented, credible subject matter experts all the way through it. This, tells the story and I hope everybody gets a chance to learn [email protected] it's the number four, so four horsemenbook.com yeah.
Kevin Freeman: All right, so let's close in prayer. Father, thank you, for solutions. We dedicate our future to you in Jesus name. If you have questions, prayer needs comments, email [email protected] and we should be praying for America. Listen wherever you get your podcasts, Apple, Spotify or wherever. Share this with your friends. This is Kevan Freeman, joined this week by Mike Carter for Pirate Money radio argument.
Welcome to Pirate Money Radio with your host, Kevan Freeman, helping you unpack the economic headlines and providing real money solutions.
Kevin Freeman: Ahoy, mates. Welcome aboard another voyage of Pirate Money Radio, the show that sails against the storms of fiat tyranny, cultural confusion, and counterfeit ideas to chart a course toward liberty, security, and values built on biblical truth. I'm your captain, Kevan Freeman, coming to you from the heart of Texas.
Mike Carter: And I'm, Mike Carter.
The Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse and Early Observations
Last week on this ship, we walked through three days in September. You know, Charlie, the towers, the signing in Philadelphia, if you missed it, the story standalone. This hour is the book those dates demanded. And I'm excited to get into that, Kevan, today. This is powerful. This book is a game changer in helping people really understand what's going on and. And what we need to be doing.
Kevin Freeman: it's the Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse and our Six Trials by Fire. The foreword is written by Dr. Ben Carson. It's dedicated in the memory of Charlie Kirk. And there are three things in it that were not in my last book, and basically, they're not in most of the threat literature. And we're gonna name those three revelations, tell how they got onto the page, and then we're gonna take them to the kitchen table, how they impact your family.
Mike Carter: Yeah. And let's start, in the studio, September 11, 2024, here at Liberty Hawk Ranch. the anniversary morning of a time we still flinch. tell us more about that.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. So September 11, 2024, would have been, what, 23 years after 9? 11. And Charlie Kirk was 30 years old.
Charlie Kirk's Concerns About National Suicide and Historical Parallels
He was already one of the most consequential voices in the nation. And we taped an economic war room episode, number 312. And we kept talking after the cameras. And I asked him about a life or death struggle for liberty, because he could see it. He's 30 years old, and he can see how much has changed.
Mike Carter: Yeah. And, Kevan, there was something that I remember you actually stopped and wrote something down. It's unusual for you. Usually you just take it all in your mind. You're like, I gotta get this and write it down. What was it you wrote down?
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. Well, let's roll the clip. Charlie put it best in his own words.
Charlie Kirk: We are following to a T every single hallmark characteristic of how a nation decides to no longer exist.
Identifying the Hallmarks of National Decline and Generational Differences in Perspective
Mass migration, open borders, decline of virtue and moral standards, an obliteration of the family or the nuclear family unit, hyper centralization of government power, adventurous, unnecessary foreign wars and debasing of the currency. Rome followed the same pattern British Empire, similar pattern. We are doing that to a T. And we're also ignoring the concerns of the domestic citizen and prioritizing the foreigner.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. You know, and I then pointed out to Charlie, historian Arthur Toynbee, because he said great civilizations are not murdered. They take their own lives. And so we were talking about the same things, but he pointed out the four horsemen right there.
Mike Carter: Yeah, yeah. And Charlie Kirk listed the hallmarks of what that looks like.
Charlie Kirk: Kevan.
Mike Carter: or, Russell, can we get that other clip up?
Charlie Kirk: And so it's very interesting that I think younger people reject the premise of an American suicide. I think they say, why would we want to kill this country? I'm 18, I want a future. Boomers are fine with American suicide. Right? Perfectly M. Many of them. Right. I get so much hate mail when I say this, but it's true. They have authored, perfected, and overseen a slow motion American suicide for 40 years. So why would they stop? Right. Young people say, no, I don't own a home. I'm not yet married. Everything's unaffordable. I don't want to go get drafted in World War iii. I. I reject the premise. And that is our message. Yeah.
Mike Carter: And Kevan, I think you added coinage to his list.
The Role of Debased Currency and the Four Horsemen: Communism, Islam, Globalism, and Traitors
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, no, he listed the things that we're doing wrong. you know, open borders and so forth. But every great society that has fallen has also debased its coinage because the free stuff that they promise has to be paid for somehow. And that's the theme of the book. It starts off with Alexander Fraser Tytler.
Mike Carter: Ah.
Kevin Freeman: Who says that, you know, the great societies end, when they debase the coinage by offering, you know, you can get free stuff from the public treasury. So Charlie put that on his list, and then he went off and said the beautiful. The beautiful is a choice in front of us. Listen to what he said.
Charlie Kirk: Every person that loves liberty has two things in common. They know that there is a God and we are not him. Every person who hates liberty does not believe either of those things.
Mike Carter: Yeah. And Kevan, after the camera, as you talked to them about that red and the green. and this is the conversation people are asking for out there.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. No, Charlie had it very clear. And you can see in his last speeches and last discussions, he said, there's a red horse, communism, and there's a green horse, Islam. And where political Islam or the authoritative Islam or the Islam where people want to kill other infidels and all of that, take over the world, establish a caliphate and establish Sharia law.
Expanding the Threats: Globalism, Vaccine Mandates, and the Role of Traitors
He said, Those are the two great threats. And I said, charlie, you got to add to that. We need to add a blue horse, which is the globalist despotism that we see in the World Economic Forum. That's the Klaus Schwab. You'll own nothing and eat bugs and, and you'll be happy. And we'll have open borders. It's the. You're going to take the, the vaccine because we tell you to. You're going to, you have to do it. And we're going to shut your church down, but we're going to open up the gambling casino in the, you know, those things. It was that we had to add. And then we added a last one. Charlie alluded to it, but it's a yellow horse, which is our traitors, the cowards and our fools. And Charlie said, all right, Kevan, I want you to do something. I want you to build the Saving Civilization Action Network.
Mike Carter: Scan.
Kevin Freeman: Scan aimed at all four. And he was going to. I was going to write the book. He was going to write the Ford.
Mike Carter: Yeah. And a year later, he's gone. you know, a few weeks ago, we honored the date. this week we honor that assignment. Kevan, how do we move that scan piece forward?
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, well, the three revelations were the assignment we needed to have. The first revelation we just covered Rgby. Red, green, blue, yellow, August 15, 1971, which is the second revelation. And the third is that the six trials by fire which we'll get into, they're a loop. They're not just a list of things. They're trials that mutually reinforce one another. It's like a vicious cycle. It's a self reinforcing prophecy.
Mike Carter: Yeah, yeah. I'm excited with what you have in the book here. the book's out now. People can get it. I guess they can learn more. You'll get into all that stuff later on, but this is powerful stuff and I'll make sure our audience captures what's going on here. Let's talk a little bit more about that. Red, green, blue, yellow.
Kevin Freeman: Well, that was Charlie's mission and that's what he charged us with to start scans, saving civilization. I was in a regular and ongoing chat with him. I won't release all of the details of that chat, but it was running up until the moment he was shot. And it was, how do we save civilization? And Western civilization depends on America. And he was very crystal clear on that. And the red, the green, the blue and the yellow are the threats that we're going to have to Address the yellow being us. as Lincoln said, nobody's going to take over America. As, Toynbee said, civilizations, die by suicide. As Titler said, civilizations fail when people learn that they can vote themselves largesse out of the public treasury. Those four combining. And if we didn't have the yellow opening the door to the other three, we wouldn't have a problem. But we have traders, cowards and fools that will sell it to communist China. I mean, just imagine, hey, if you'll move your plant here, we'll cut your costs and you'll make a bigger profit. So they move the plant and they steal the intellectual property. I just read about another example of that happening this morning on blueberries. They stole everything. And now there's Chinese blueberries going around the world because they stole all their technological know how and so forth. We'll save you money. And the traitors, cowards and fools sell out America to go to communist China.
Mike Carter: You know, why does yellow change the whole page here? Kevan, you've got kind of an interesting analogy with that. but the yellow is the traitors. That's the pieces that we can stop. that's the piece we can make a difference. But tell us a little bit more about how yellow changes this thing.
Kevin Freeman: Well, you can't vote out Beijing, the Muslim Brotherhood, or Davos and Klaus Schwab, but you can vote out yellow. And you can take actions to offset yellow. And you can do it with your spending and just, how you spend your money. And there are three things you can do with your money. You can give it, you can spend it, or you can invest it. Here at Pirate Money Radio, we work to explain solutions supporting all three areas in a way that promotes liberty, security, and values. Patriot Mobile, it's a mobile phone company. They support the Pirate Money radio program. Patriot Mobile uses US carriers, including AT&T, Verizon and T Mobile, and operates on both Apple and Android phones. More information about the economic war room and Patri Mobile is [email protected] afr and so you're going to be a traitor, coward, or fool if you are not using your money as good stewards of God's provision.
Mike Carter: Yeah, yeah. So, you know, but that, but that yellow piece, there's the, you know, the RGBY display. Can you talk a little bit about that? Yeah, you gave me that at lunch the other day, and I'm like, okay, that's an amazing way to help people understand what's going on here.
Kevin Freeman: Traditionally monitors color monitors are built on red, green and blue rgb. Well, the engineers at Sharp said we're going to add yellow to that monitor. And they found that it increased clarity, it made the colors pop. You could see them more readily. And so I use that analogy. By adding the domestic, the traitors, cowards and fools, we better understand the communist threat, the Muslim Islamic threat, and the globalist threat. It changes everything.
Mike Carter: the yellow, when it gets brighter though, what's it do?
Kevin Freeman: It eliminates the entire color spectrum. In other words, if you just blame China, you don't see the congressman that's voting to take your tax dollars to support the Chinese. If you don't see the yellow. so we're going to talk about. This is more than a money show. We're going to talk about binding the story strongman from a spiritual perspective. But we're gonna have to take a break before we do that and we'll talk about when this all started. We'll be right back.
Mike Carter: Welcome back to Pirate Money Radio with your host, Kevan Freeman.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, I'm joined by the great Mike Carter. Mike, we were talking about before the break what, it means to have the sharpness of understanding by recognizing that it's our fault too. We can't just blame this on somebody over there. You can't just say it's the, it's, you know, if you're Republican, you can't just say it's the Democrats. If you're American, you can't just say it's the Chinese. You have to realize that our actions impact and really do make a difference. Yeah.
Mike Carter: You know, I look at the title of this book, the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, the server wall over here and the Six Trials by fire, and it's easy to say, wow, this is like straight out of Revelation. but your book is really about the American Apocalypse.
Examining Central Bank Digital Currency and the Concept of Binding the Strongman
It's not to be confused with the end of the world. But it's interesting how they kind of line up and you can see how it could set, set up for what's in that book of Revelation.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, no, we borrow the analogy because it's a well known thought. and we call it the Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse. And we're not predicting the end of the world from this, although there are themes in it that sure look like the Revelation. Central bank digital currency is a good example to where you can't buy or sell unless you submit. Is that the mark of the beast? We had that with the Cove shot. You won't be able to work you're not allowed to work unless you take the COVID shot it alludes to. So we take themes or ideas from that, but we take them really practically down, to what we're facing today. And we took another biblical theme there. that is the strongman. Did you catch that part?
Mike Carter: The strongman? In terms of. What do you mean by catching it?
Kevin Freeman: All right. So binding the strong man. I think that's in Mark, chapter three. you can't plunder a strong man's house unless you first bind him. That's Jesus talking. And America, in a sense, is the strong man of the world. And so we have to be bound from the outside or divided from within at the same time. And the horsemen, the four ones. Communism, the ccp. Unrestricted warfare. That's the red. they want to beat the economy and the will. And they're not after our carrier group. Not yet. they're not after our military capabilities. They want to beat us. Ah, from internally dividing us or using others against us.
Mike Carter: And it's working.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, it's everywhere. There. The green they wrote about in this book, Unrestricted Warfare, they wrote about Osama bin Laden as somebody that they could use. They also wrote about George Soros so Osama bin Laden would represent the green. I want to establish a global caliphate. I want everybody under Sharia law. I'm not talking anybody's personal faith. I'm talking their political ideology. You want to go in your home, own home, and say prayers five times a day facing Mecca, you're welcome to do that. You want to take over my street and block traffic and take over the street? I'm not so good with that. You want to play your Muslim call to prayer five times a day. That I have to hear it. I don't feel comfortable with that. You want to force a woman to be value of half of a man? I don't feel good about that. You want to do all those things under Sharia? that's the political ideology. And blue, which is George Soros was mentioned in unrestricted warfare as a globalist. Taking down currencies and forcing, Doing all these. They called him a financial terrorist. I'm not calling him that. They called him in their book. but it's also esg, programmable money, all of those things. That's the blue horse art. Allie said a dollar a third party can restrict is not a dollar that you're stewarding. We can't have government telling us how we have to spend our money. We have to have God's Word and stewardship principles telling us how to do it. And then the yellow horse, that's the blue horse, and the yellow horse is the fools who refuse to see the cowards who will not act, the traitors who, who choose the other side. Every other horse needs the yellow horse to open the gate for them.
Mike Carter: Scary stuff, Kevan.
Solutions for National Challenges: Sound Money, Gold, Silver, and Spiritual Warfare
There's solutions to all this, though, correct?
Kevin Freeman: That's what the book is about. Probably a third of the book is solutions, practically what we do. And it will be no surprise, to this listening, audience, that transactional, gold and silver and honest money is a huge part of the solution that is not restricted or controlled by the federal government or foreign governments.
Mike Carter: Yeah. And it's been amazing. You told me what you're going to be doing with this book, Kevan. I was blown away by the topics and the way you're aligning the pieces there. and of course, especially excited when you said, and part of the solution is transactional gold. And it is. So thank you for the Lord giving you the wisdom on how we can do these solutions and move forward.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. Well, General Boykin, he wrote a nice note. He says, if you'll not see the stone spiritual war, you'll misread every other war. And the transactional gold and silver has a hugely spiritual component. And we're going to talk about that. And we're going to talk about the day, the day when all of the bad things were unleashed. we know the day and we'll point it out right after the break.
Mike Carter: Pirate Money Radio, helping you give, spend and invest in ways that align with liberty, security and values. Welcome back with your host, Kevan Freeman,
Kevin Freeman: and I'm joined by the great Mike Carter. We're talking about a new book that is just published. It was published on September 10th of this year to honor Charlie Kirk. Dedicated to Charlie Kirk. But it's got three powerful revelations, and the first of these is that American cowardice opened the door to the threats that we have now. Revelation to when and how it all started.
Mike Carter: Yeah, I think that's one of the key insights that I've never seen anybody else connect the dots to. Kevan. all four horses were released when we did one thing in 1971. Tell us more about that.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, well, Charlie Kirk, he agreed to put debased currency on his list of how you commit national suicide. and basically we debased our currency on one specific day. And I can tell you what led to that. But on August 15, 1971, on a Sunday night, Richard Nixon, president closed the gold window he said it was a temporary, thing. We just got to deal with a few things. We will no longer back US Dollars with gold for foreign nations. He said it was temporary, it was permanent. he promised the dollar would be worth just as much tomorrow. But within a decade, it lost more than half its value. The cards that he had to play, though, were dealt with in 1913, 1933, 1968, then he had to cut the cord. In 1913, we established the Federal Reserve, in 1933. well, 1933 is when FDR confiscated everybody's gold. And in 1968, he literally, President Nixon cut the cord so there was no more connection. And so you look at the 1928 Federal Reserve note, put it on the screen, and you can see that it says, redeemable in gold on demand, literally or for awful money. What it's saying is, this isn't gold. This is just a representation of it.
Mike Carter: Yeah, it was a certificate of deposit. Right. There was gold that's standing behind that. That's what it was. It was not just a continental as, Benjamin Franklin talked about.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, now I'm going to have to rush through these. When we walked away from the gold standard, four things happened. Nixon realized we had massive inflation. So he rushed to the Chinese, met with Chairman Mao in February of 1972. That unleashed the red horse. He said, hey, will you build us cheap stuff and send it to us if we give you money? And know how. China was not a large economy at the time. We made them a large economy and made them a threat because we no longer backed the dollar with gold. And then we financed the adversary, the green, through the petrodollar. We went to Saudi Arabia and struck a deal. King. Here's, what. We'll protect you if you'll price all your oil in, dollars. And then send the surplus to our treasury and invest a lot of money in America, which they open mosques with their investment. And we unleashed the blue horse. That was the red horse, the green horse, the blue horse. The same year Klaus Schwab formed the World Economic Forum. He loved fiat money, and he saw that separating. That opened the door for financializing our economy and putting us under a technocracy. And unleashed the United Nations. And then the yellow horse. People learned they could borrow, speculate, and buy votes with the future, with our kids, balance sheets, the traitors, cowards, and fools were all unleashed at that same time.
Mike Carter: So we've seen the enemy, and he is us. We're letting these things happen.
Kevin Freeman: We did, and it all started August 15, 1971. A day that should go down in infamy as a day as disastrous as Pearle harbor or 9 11. All of those bad things that happened came as a result of not being free with our unrighteous mammon. Luke 16:11 says, Unless you're faithful with unrighteous mammon, you will not be trusted with true riches. We've seen our liberty, our security and our values all under assault from the day that we walked away with backing our money with gold. That's where you have abortion, taking off, prayer removed from schools. All those bad things happen in conjunction with that same notion. We can print as much money as we want, spend it how we want to. That's how that got on Charlie Kirk's.
Mike Carter: And too often we're overwhelmed. We're working day to day at the kitchen table just trying to pay bills. We're not seeing what's going on. What this book does is says, here's what's happening and here's what you can be doing.
Kevin Freeman: It shows the big picture, and that's the revelation. It all started when we stopped being faithful with our unrighteous mammon. Charlie Kirk saw it. He said, when you debase your currency, your nation fails. It's on the suicide watch list. All right, we're going to have to take another break. When we come back, we're going to talk about the six trials of fire we're going through now. They're. They're a chain, they're a vicious cycle, they're a feedback loop. And we'll discuss them when we come back after this break.
Mike Carter: Welcome to Pirate Money Radio with your host, Kevan Freeman, helping you unpack the economic headlines and providing real money solutions.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, I'm talking with Mike Carter. We're talking about my new book. It's really Charlie's in my new book, the Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse. It's dedicated to him. A lot of the ideas came from him. A lot of the solutions come from him. but those six trials by fire, that's something that's different. When we unleashed the four horses, they've started fires here in America. And the six trials, we brought some of it on ourselves. So the three big revelations we're talking about is, number one, that there's a yellow horse. In addition to the red, green, blue, there's a yellow horse, and that's us. the second revelation is they were all unleashed August 15, 1971, and they
Mike Carter: closed the gold window.
Kevin Freeman: Yes. And now the third revolution is the six trials by fire. Array, feedback, loop. They're not just six separate trials.
Mike Carter: Yeah, I think that's kind of important for people as we go through this. Each one leads to the next problem. but let's explain that, Kevan, so that a high schooler can, when we're starting back to school now, I want the high schoolers to go back and, talk in their economic classes or their history class and say, let me tell you what's really happening out there.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. So they actually circle back and feed each other so that one starts ignites another, which ignites another, which ignites another, but then they go back to the original one and it's just a negative, vicious cycle.
Mike Carter: And it's all designed to attack the dollar.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, yeah, you start with the dollar. Once we left the gold window, there was no limit on what Washington could spend. If you have to have as we did prior to 1968 when Johnson ended the gold backing, Nixon ended gold convertibility. Gold backing was ended by Lyndon Johnson. He said, I want to go to Vietnam M and I want to go and support that. And I also want to have a war on poverty and I want to have a great society. And so he was just spending money like crazy. He was the original modern monetary theorist. Well, to do that, you can't say that every dollar has to be back 40 cents worth of gold. So he just said, ah, it doesn't have to have any backing. And when he did that, it opened the door for Washington to borrow everything that they want. And that created a trial one, which is our debt bomb. We have $40,000,000,000 in debt from 400,000,000 in 1971 to 40,000,100 fold in debt.
Mike Carter: Didn't it go up just in the last seven months, like a trillion dollars?
Kevin Freeman: It is going up exponentially because interest rates and that. So if you have 40 trillion in debt and interest is 5%, which it is now, then you have 2 trillion a year just in interest. Well, that's consuming 40% of all our tax receipts by itself. So Washington's borrowing and spending, which leads
Mike Carter: to trial number two, the dollar attack.
Kevin Freeman: Right? So people look inside and they say, yeah, my dollar doesn't buy very much. And so the dollar's under attack domestically. We feel it is inflation. Outside the United States, they say, do I trust the dollar anymore? Do I want to hold dollar reserves and U.S. treasury bonds? I'm not going to buy their debt. I'm not going to finance, America. And that's what Charles de Gaulle said 1971, he said, I want gold and that's when Nixon closed the gold window. Sorry, buddy, you can't have gold. You're stuck with dollars. And so the dollar attacks have been going on since then. China is selling down their treasury holdings. The Islamists are telling they're faithful to sell dollars and buy gold instead. The share of the world reserves in our papers at the lowest point since 1995, gold has passed treasuries as the largest reserve asset on earth. That's happening right now.
Mike Carter: So central banks, other countries are all doing less dollars, buying more gold. that seems like a natural right thing to do in some respects. What does America do?
Kevin Freeman: Well, here's the thing is if we can't finance our debt with foreigners, we have to finance it internally. And the Federal Reserve says, you know, I can create money more efficiently and maybe have better control on it. We'll just. The next crisis we have, dollar crisis, will create a central bank digital currency. It'll be programmable money. That'll be their answer. And they'll say, look, we give it and we take it away. Government is the creator of money. It'll be much worse than paper money. You won't even know. and they'll be able to turn off your money at will. We've talked about this before. The red communism, they pioneered a digital yuan with, social credit scores. The blue is promoting the central bank digital currency. The yellow, the traders, cowards and fools. They're going to go along with it. Congress has stopped it for now, but how long will that last in a crisis? They'll say no. Our solution, here's your programmable money, and
Mike Carter: we'll be happy to get that money because, well, we don't have anything else. I need to buy groceries. I need to do this. So, oh, yes, please, give me some of that programmable money. But let's go to the next part of that. All of a sudden, that programmable money, they can determine how you spend that money, where you spend that money. Your church, maybe it's a hate group now. you can't use it for that, right?
Kevin Freeman: Your church is not a hate group, but they may call it a hate group because you say marriage is between one man and one woman, and that the problem is that they're going to, and that's the third trial. They're going to create central bank digital currency at some point, and that's a trial. And the next trial that's going to lead to is it's going to be haves and have nots. they're going to create the money, it's not going to arrive evenly. And this is the cancel on effect, correct?
Mike Carter: Yeah. People closest to the money benefit from it. The rest of us, as it drips down like honey. by the time we finally get it, we're saying, man, everything costs so much more now. Whereas when at the top, I was
Kevin Freeman: able to buy before that prices go up before your salary goes up. But the people close to the money supply, Mark Zuckerberg is in those types, they can profit from this. Cause they get the new money and they invest in assets that go up in value. If you depend more on your earned wages than you do on stock returns, you're gonna be hurt. And that's the cancel on effect.
Mike Carter: And we talked a little bit about that in the Social Security segment a week or two ago. You know, if that money becomes worth less and less because they gotta pay off the debt, those are things working against everyday Americans.
Kevin Freeman: That's the fourth trial. The people nearest to the press get the M units first. The paycheck gets them last after prices have moved. That's a wealth gap. Dr. Carson says that's the gap that the Red is using to sell socialism to our kids. And Dr. Carson wrote the forward, and he wrote that that wealth gap created by unsound money is why kids are saying, hey, maybe socialism makes sense, maybe Islam makes sense.
Mike Carter: Scary, scary stuff. we've got ways to address that. One of them is fair weights and measures with gold and silver. We'll get into that a little bit later on. But focusing on this loop, the next one is demographic destiny.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, no, it is. Because if you're not making money enough, you say, ah, two income family. We got to, I can't work and my wife has to work too. And you know, maybe we delay marriage, maybe we delay having kids. And that's literally demographic destiny. 100 years ago, people would have, get married at age 20 and have a baby by age 21. They can have a lot of kids in their fertile years. If you wait till you're 29 and 29 and a half like the average today, and then you wait three years to have a kid. You're 33. When you have your first child, guess what? You're not going to have very many of them. So the fertility rate in America is 1.6 and declining. You need 2.1 to replenish your population. So literally because of money, people say, I can't afford to buy a house. They're waiting till they're 40 years old. But if they were priced in gold. If they used gold as their money, the cost of housing's gone down, not up. So money is the barrier and that
Mike Carter: leads to the next one and just go back. That's hard for people to understand. The price of housing's gone down. If you look at the value in gold versus the value in dollars, it absolutely. Builders have gotten more efficient. All that's been out there is regulations and things that have increased costs. But dollar versus gold, you would have a tremendous house today.
Kevin Freeman: Gold was real money up until 1933 when it was confiscated. If you got your wages paid you in gold and you held the gold like you hold dollars and you saved in gold, you could buy more houses today than you could in 1971. But in paper, in US dollars, nope, nope. Way more expensive. That leads to then trial number six. We're not having babies. And so what do we need to do at the low end? We've got to bring in workers who will pick the produce. So you want workers to clean your house? We're going to import them. And that was the big, it's called replacement migration. But it's also at the high end. Oh, I'm going to go get a college degree and I'm going to be a doctor or I'm going to be a really good coder and computers and learn all of those things. And guess what? The immigration system is also geared to bringing in the high end as well. And we're seeing this with the H1B visas. If we had the babies that were aborted alive today, we would have more than enough workers to grow and build our economy. More than enough to cover Social Security. They're going to do massive Social Security cuts because our population has been shrinking and we have fewer workers paying for the retirees. All of this is a feedback loop. They all lead one to another. It increases our debt. Our debt has grown 100 fold. Our economy has grown 25 fold since we left the gold standard. We have $40 trillion this August in debt. That's the problem we have. And these are self reinforcing.
Mike Carter: Yeah. You know Kevan, what I appreciate about this book is again, this is not tinfoil hat stuff. We're not here to try and sell gold or silver or anything else. We're here to protect liberty, security and values. And this is a well documented, you've sourced everything. This feedback loop is reality and what's happening today. So thank you for what you've done with us.
Kevin Freeman: Well, no, thank you for what you've done to Help make transactional gold and silver reality. Charlie Kirk was a big supporter and endorser of it. He endorsed my book, Pirate Money. He called legislators and, state senators and governors. I text him, say, charlie, would you call? And he said, sure, I'll call him and encourage them. And he did. it's kind of an amazing thing. All right, when we come out, we're going to talk about real practical solutions. How do you deal with this? This isn't a fairy tale. This isn't something in the far off future. This is something happening now. And we'll cover it right after this break.
Mike Carter: Welcome back to Pirate Money Radio with your host, Kevan Freeman.
Kevin Freeman: We're talking about the four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse under six trials by fire. This is the literally. Gosh, how many pages is this? Over 400 pages. And it's got 800 plus, footnotes. And all of this came from conversations with Charlie Kirk over a course of a year before he was killed.
Mike Carter: I wonder if this is 400 pages. But again, Kevan, you do great at making it easy to read, easy to understand. It's not an economics book. It's not a heavy geopolitical book, but it helps, the average person be able to understand, say, wow, I get what's going on. And I now understand what types of things I need to be doing.
Kevin Freeman: And what we need to be doing includes how we handle our money and if we make gold and silver legal tender again under the Constitution. And we did that in July in, Florida. That became law in September. The beginning of the laws happened September 1st in Texas, Missouri.
Mike Carter: It's law. In fact, we were just at the NASDAQ conference and heard from a deputy treasurer. I understand how to make this work now, which is amazing.
Kevin Freeman: It's coming. It's coming for you right now, regardless of which state you're in. And for full disclosure, we've invested in a solutions provider and support for this program comes from Glint. It's a financial technology service offering with a debit card and mobile app that enables users to access gold holdings for everyday purchases. With Glint, users maintain ownership of allocated physical gold, which is stored in a managed vault. And at the time of transaction, gold is sold in real time and to cover the purchase amount in local currency, Glint offers an alternative way to store and use the value. Combining gold and silver with modern payment infrastructure, Glint clients can monitor their goal balance, view transaction history, and manage their account through the Glint app, available on major mobile platforms. More details about how vaulted physical gold can be used as money are [email protected] gold 2, 4, 7. That's happening now. And it's breaking from this idea that we use fiat currency that has been a blight on humanity going back to the founding of this nation when the colonies were, breaking from the Crown, the British Crown. They broke from the Crown's fake paper money. They wouldn't fund their revolution with king's receipts. They reached for Spanish gold doubloons and Spanish milled dollars. Pieces of eight. If you cut a dollar into eight bits, you have two bits, four bits, eight. Eight bits a dollar. That coin was the money of the Atlantic world. Some of it, in colonial tills, had, in fact, come off Spanish ships by privateers. Those were prizes. And the culture called it pirate money because that's what a free people will hold when the official paper is a leash trying to control them.
Mike Carter: And then they printed our own paper money anyway.
Kevin Freeman: Ben Franklin is guilty. Yes. Continental Congress printed it to fight the war. There was nothing behind it. so Franklin and his team realized what a failure it was. Article one, Section ten was put in. Ah. They listed a dollar. That was pirate money. It was Spanish milled dollars. And they put it in our Constitution.
Mike Carter: Yeah. You know, Kevan, I noticed the government's been pushing, for their citizens to buy gold, real physical metal.
Kevin Freeman: in China.
Mike Carter: Yeah. Yeah, in China. Maybe the CCP understands the history lesson from the Constitution better than our American politicians. I hope that's not the case. We're trying to educate them on that.
Kevin Freeman: 22 months the Chinese, have official gold buying, increasing treasuries holdings, have been cut to levels not seen since 2008. State television has been telling their people to buy metal, and they've done that since 2010. This year, they squeezed paper, gold contracts and left physical alone. They said, buy physical metal, not the paper version of gold. And they watched Russia's reserves frozen with the phone call. So they said, we're going to depend on gold and silver, not on US Dollars. But now, based on your work, we now have six states that allow you to use gold and silver as money. And we talked about Glint. Glint just opened a vault in Miami for gold and silver, for people to spend it. So it's not in Switzerland only anymore. It can be here in the United States.
Mike Carter: I can have a choice. Where do I want it? I can have it in Switzerland. I can have it in Florida. Pretty soon I'll be out of it in Texas. I can have it in Missouri. So on an app, I'll be able to move My gold to where I want to have it. And I can go from gold to silver to dollars. That's the way the system works.
Kevin Freeman: Yep. And The Texas Rails, September 1st. Florida. It was unanimous. Utah's doing it. Look, this is Charlie Kirk understood this was a solution that people couldn't afford to have babies.
Preserving the American Dream: The Role of Sound Money in Family and National Prosperity
And he tweeted, he said more people should get married young and have more kids than they can afford. But he also wanted us to have gold and silver so they could afford to have more babies. That's the American dream. Dr. Carson opened this book and says no other nation has it. There's no China dream. There's no Japan dream or Brazil dream. There's an American dream. How do we keep the American dream alive? That's why I wrote the book the Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse. If you want more information for the number four Horseman book dot com, we're going to have to take another break. When we come back, we're going to talk more about the solutions from this book and what we can do in our everyday lives. We'll be right back.
Mike Carter: Pirate Money Radio. Helping you give, spend and invest in ways that align with liberty, security, and values. Welcome back with your host, Kevan Freeman,
Kevin Freeman: and thank you so much for joining us. We're talking about three revelations from my new book, Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse and our six trials by fire. more information can be [email protected] that's the number four horseman book.com and the three revelations, the three news items, I think from there. Number one, Charlie Kirk, when he was with us, he said, the threat is red and green. It's communism and Islam. And I said, charlie, we've got to add globalism, the blue and yellow, which is our own traitors, cowards, and fools. And the second Revelation. We tied the opening of all of this. When did it get unleashed? It was a Sunday Night in 1971. And that's when we left the gold standard. And we drew the loop so that you can see where we have to cut it. And the loop is the six trials by fire, self reinforcing. The founders understood this. That's why they put in gold and silver, the four horsemen. They're riding now. The house, it's. It's still standing for now. But how do we preserve it and protect it and pass it to future generations? That's our challenge. And that was the challenge of the book. And I think we've got some good solutions to it.
Mike Carter: It's excellent. I'm just reading through the book here. Charlie's verse shared in this book is Joshua 1:9. Be strong and courageous. That's a great choice in front of us. And now is the time to be strong and courageous and to make sure we're taking the right steps to make sure the sun is rising, to make sure that, And we're taking care of our family. To make sure we're protecting liberty, security and values. And that means each one of us needs to be involved in the process, the solutions and getting involved to make sure we're protecting, this great gift God has given us now.
Kevin Freeman: And we're talking, I use the biblical analogy, the four horsemen of the Apocalypse. Clearly we're not talking about the book of Revelation. I'm not trying to be prophetic here, although there's some prophetic elements to it. What we're talking about is the four horsemen of the American Apocalypse, what might kill and destroy America. And I'll tell you what kills and destroys America. God laid it out. Look it up in Deuteronomy, I lay before you. Life and death, a blessing and a curse. Choose. It's a choice. Charlie said the beautiful is in front of us. We can choose the beautiful, which is life. But it's also. When you look at a nation under a blessing, they lend to other nations. What is our nation doing? We're borrowing from anyone we can. 40 trillion in debt. We need China. We need Japan. We need Germany. We need everybody. Finance our debt. Buy our dollars. Well, that's not a nation under a blessing. Nation under a curse. You know what they find? They find the alien shall live among you and will rise higher and higher while the citizen falls lower and lower. And we have traitors, cowards and fools. The yellow horse we talk about here, that's opened the door for the alien to live among us. And we're literally selling our nation to them. The communist phrase is they'll sell us the rope which. With which we hang down.
Mike Carter: Yeah, yeah. And can you imagine, Kevan? I mean, this is hypothetical. Obviously you can. But imagine a time where we don't have control of our money. We don't have economic freedom. you have programmable money. They tell us how we can spend it, what we can do with it. That's what this book is designed to help people say. This is where it's headed. This is the roadmap. This is what we need to do to make sure it doesn't happen.
Kevin Freeman: Both national. How do we vote? Politicians that will support the national thing, supporting liberty, security and values. How do we, how do we stand up and speak up and so forth. But also personal. How does my family address this? I want to be prepared. It says in proverbs, in two different proverbs, it says, the prudent sees trouble coming, but the fool goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Anybody who looks around them can see trouble coming with the debt and with inflation and all the things. How do you protect your family? And I wanted to get down to that. And how do we actually get down and protect our family? And pirate money. It's pirate money Radio. Pirate money is a big part of that transactional gold and silver. And Mike, you're here because you've gone state by state with Lori Bolton and our good friends and colleagues, Pro Family Legislative Network and the national association of Christian Lawmakers. And Alex, we've just got some great
Mike Carter: state legislators across the country that understand this. They've been out, many of them have been out to the ranch now to learn more about it. and we've got a whole movement of legislators that we've got to get this done in our state.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. So if you want more information, we've covered a lot of the topics here. But if you want more information about the book, you can visit at your choice or leisure for the number4horseman book dot com. That's a place you can get more information. We've had a great time talking about it and I'm so thankful for our real life audience. You all are terrific. We get great feedback from you. So stay faithful, stay free. That's my challenge to you. But if you're listening on a podcast or American family radio, we want you to stay tuned. We've got one wrap up segment. Again, this is Kevan Freeman and Mike Carter. We appreciate you so much at Real life. you're terrific. And Learn more from information4horsemenbook.com we'll be right back after this break for AFR and podcast.
Mike Carter: Welcome back to Pirate Money Radio with your host, Kevan Freeman.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. And I'm joined by Mike Carter. And I always feel like this is the wrap up bonus segment. If you're on American family radio or on the podcast. You know, sometimes on TV shows really, they end the story arc and then they roll the credits and then they sometimes they'll have that last little tiny bonus segment. That's our bonus segment for you. We're so grateful for you. we've told the truth about how the book started. Ah. About a young man on the anniversary of his martyrdom. We released the book how you Know, a year prior to him being killed, we talked about the four Horsemen. He had two horses, red and green. We added blue and yellow. We talked about a date in 1971. We talked about the feedback loop of the six trials by fire, how they just, add to one another. And then we talk about a coin, gold and silver, that our founders already trusted. And the good news is that the founders left us a treasure map to get back to sound money.
Mike Carter: Yeah, treasure map. And again, this is a practical solution. We don't sell the gold and silver you've mentioned before, we do make an investment in a company to help implement this thing. Now. but it's simple. I mean, you basically take money. You hold physical gold in a vault. That's your gold. It's not the state's gold. It's not the application's gold. It's your physical gold held there. And you can spend it anywhere. It takes a debit card. it's a beautiful solution. we have Article 1, Section 10, that says states can have legal tender as long as it's gold and silver. And now we have the technology today to make it happen. and, Kevan, this builds the case on why this is so important. Because you've said before, the best thing we can do is we can get as much gold and silver in America versus these other countries.
Kevin Freeman: That'll protect the dollar. It's not against the dollar. That'll protect the dollar. And just a perfect example, Mike, you and I and Jason, the founder of Glint, were having lunch. He bought her lunch, which was very nice. And then I stepped up and said, I'll buy us some banana splits at the local ice cream shop. He said, I don't have time. I've got to catch a plane. Perhaps we could have dessert here. And so we stopped at the steakhouse and ordered dessert, and I got the
Mike Carter: bill, and we were at the steakhouse. So I was like, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Freeman: We had three desserts, and I looked at the bill at $60 plus tip, and I'm like, oh, my gosh. I was at that same steakhouse five years earlier, and three people could eat dessert for $25 plus tip. I was like, this is outrageous. But then Jason, pointed out that I bought silver in Miami on his app that morning. and I was able to spend one ounce of silver. That same one ounce of silver five years earlier was $25. So one ounce of silver five years ago bought three desserts at the Fancy Steakhouse. And then five years later, same ounce of silver bought three desserts. So I'm grateful for that.
Mike Carter: It's a practical solution. I believe it's something God's given us for such a time as this. Honored to be part of the team that's working to help make this happen. and just great to get all the pieces put together in one book. Kevan, this is an easy to read book with no tinfoil hat. Well documented, credible subject matter experts all the way through it. This, tells the story and I hope everybody gets a chance to learn [email protected] it's the number four, so four horsemenbook.com yeah.
Kevin Freeman: All right, so let's close in prayer. Father, thank you, for solutions. We dedicate our future to you in Jesus name. If you have questions, prayer needs comments, email [email protected] and we should be praying for America. Listen wherever you get your podcasts, Apple, Spotify or wherever. Share this with your friends. This is Kevan Freeman, joined this week by Mike Carter for Pirate Money radio argument.
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