Kevin Freeman: Ahoy, mates. Welcome aboard another voyage of Pirate Money Radio, the show that sails against fiat tyranny, cultural confusion, and counterfeit ideas to chart a course toward liberty, security, and values built on biblical truth. I'm your captain, Kevan Freeman, coming to you from the heart of Texas.
Mike Carter: And I'm Mike Carter. It's been a little while since I've been back on the ship, but it's good to be on the show today.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, Mike, we've got a book hour. it's the same voyage. The headlines, they're not a coincidence. They're themes of my new book, that you've helped me work on. And they're walking into the world, real world, right now. It's like coming off the pages and you open up. Used to be you'd open a newspaper and you'd look, and there was headline. We don't do that so much. We open our app, lying in bed in the morning, and we look at the phone and say, what's going on that I need to deal with? But the headlines, they're just, like, straight from the book.
Mike Carter: They are. And I'm looking at the book cover right now. The Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse and our Six Trials by Fire, forwarded by Dr. Ben Carson, another great thought leader there. but, Kevan, what I've read through the book, top line. This, is a book for the hour. I mean, this is a printed material. It's not coming on social media. But this is current to what's happening today, and I'm super excited about it.
Kevin Freeman: It is. Sadly, we're, just past the anniversary of Charlie Kirk's, horrible murder. We're just past 9 11. we're in our 250.
Mike Carter: And you dedicated this book to Charlie. I mean, if I remember seeing that in the.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, no, it's dedicated to him because the themes in large part came from discussions, texts, chats that we had on saving civilization. And Charlie was all about creating a saving civilization action network. He said, we've got to do something, and he said, we've got to fight the red axis, and the green, red, green together. And we added blue and yellow, which was innovative. But, he agreed. And. Yeah, no, he. His fingerprints are all over this book.
Mike Carter: Yeah, I mean, I saw a scan in there as well, which I remember him being here and talking about that, Gosh, was it two years ago? I think it was. And that's alive right now. but Kevan, just look at it from a timing perspective. You've written a lot of books, you're a NewSong York Times bestselling author. With Secret Weapon, we've had Game Plan out there with practical solutions on what to do in different economies. Still very relevant today. According to Plan, which connected a lot of the dots. And now Pirate money, which, has been one of my topics. I've been living and breathing. but what's really new, what really stands out to you on this book this week?
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. All right, so Secret Weapon initially was explaining that there is economic warfare and financial terrorism and it can directly impact us the 2008 stock market crash. And game plan is, what do I do about it? How do I protect my money? And what happens if there's a cyber attack and so forth. According to Plan, like you said, it was bringing all of the evil that's attacking our country together and explaining this is their plan and how it works. Pirate Money was a solutions based book. And you've done just a phenomenal work on getting states to adopt pirate money legislation. I mean, overcoming that weird title. And you walk into a state and you tell a legislator, hey, I want you to promote pirate money in the state of Iowa.
Mike Carter: We have had a few people say it'd be impossible to do it, and it is, but God, and that's what's so cool, and that's what I believe in this book. This is. But God, the insights that are here, the fact that this is not just showing people how to connect the dots, but this is really a call to action.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. And I want to be clear, this Four Horsemen sounds like a biblical title. And yes, I borrowed it from the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ given to Jon on the Isle of Patmos. Yeah, I understand where that imagery comes from. But. But this is written about what America is facing. And so the new things in this book, are several. First, Charlie Kirk said, we have communism and Islam or Islamism combining red green axis. And they're working together to undermine. And everybody can. You can see that when you see Zoram and Doni in NewSong York. And you know he's a communist and he is Muslim, Twelver. And you wonder, is he here to take America down? So that's the first thing. And Charlie was big on understanding the red green axis. But I said, what about the blue? And he said, what do you mean? I said, well, the globalists, the people that, locked us down in pandemic that told us that the World Health Organization knows best that ivermectin is horse paste. And the globalists who want to bring a central bank digital currency who have this, replacement migration plan. And no, that is not false. In the book, I show you the actual UN document where they use the term replacement migration. So YouTube censors, if this gets out on YouTube, don't say that's false. I'm telling you right now, it's in an official UN document. So I added the blue, red, green, blue. And then I added the fourth one, which is yellow, which is our own traitors, cowards, greedy hearts. the traitors, cowards, and fools have opened the door. That was the first. First new thing. Adding blue and yellow to the red and green.
Mike Carter: Yeah.
Kevin Freeman: The second new thing is something we talk about all the time, and that is all of this was unleashed. And I document it and prove it. I think in the book, when we left the gold standard, which is fulfilling biblical prophecy, essentially. I mean, Jesus said, if you're not faithful with your unrighteous mammon, no one will trust you with true riches. And he's essentially his words once again, proven right. When we became dishonest in our weights and measures, when we started cheating people with our money, that's the second point that unleashed the Four Horsemen. We'll talk about that throughout the show. And then the third real thing that happened was, that in the book, we give solutions. We actually say, here's how to protect your family, but more important. Well, not more importantly, equally importantly, how to protect our nation.
Mike Carter: Yeah, solutions. And I would say these, are solutions that require action. And not just sitting and reading the book and saying, that's good, but things that say, hey, what do I need to do to make sure? I mean, one of the scariest horses to me is the yellow, the traitors within. The fact that there are people working against our best interest in government, maybe in finance, in the globalist vision. All these things that are working against us, and people are saying, yeah, that's okay with me. A, completely different ideology. And, Kevan, you said one of the fascinating things to me since I've been living and breathing pirate money.
Kevin Freeman: Yes.
Mike Carter: is, you know, you talk about all links back to this. Closing the gold window.
Kevin Freeman: August 15th.
Mike Carter: Yeah.
Mike Carter: Ah, now, gold window. I mean, I used to be in home building. I understand windows and building. When you say gold window. Talk to me about that in kind of plain English here. What would happen there?
Kevin Freeman: August 15, 1971. It was a Sunday, and what had happened was we knew that during the Great Depression, 1933, Franklin Delano Roosevelt said, the American public is no longer allowed to own gold. And they went door to door, literally. They said, you turn your gold in, and they took everybody's gold. It was confiscation. And they paid them $20 and something per ounce. And then they marked it up to $35 an ounce, and it stayed at 35.
Mike Carter: A year later, a year later, after
Kevin Freeman: they had it, after they took it from everybody, then they said, all of a sudden, it's worth 35 an ounce. And from 1933 until, 1971, it had stayed $35 an ounce. Now, after World War II, there was one superpower in the world that was the United States. Everybody said, well, we trust you. You know, there might be another war here in Europe. We can't trust our gold there, but America is safe. So they moved all their gold to America, and we gave them dollars as receipts that they could go. Anytime you want to turn it in, you can turn your dollars in and get gold at $35 an oun. Now, under the law, every dollar that the Federal Reserve created had to be backed 40% by gold until Lyndon Johnson. And then Lyndon Johnson said, how about 25%? We don't need all that backing. And so he wanted extra money, less gold, so he could print more dollars, so he could pay for the Vietnam War, so he could pay for the War on poverty, for his big social programs. And then eventually, he dropped it to zero. So there was no law requiring gold backing. Well, other nations that have given us their gold. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're not keeping the gold. can you imagine? You deposit your money in the bank, and they decide, well, we're not going to keep the money here. All of a sudden, they realized it. Charles de Gaulle led a charge. He came to America and said, some people say he showed up with a warship. I don't know. That's probably apocryphal. I was 10 at the time. You were 9 at the time.
Mike Carter: I don't remember any of that as a kid.
Kevin Freeman: But the bottom line is, here are my dollars. I want gold. And Richard Nixon faced a run on the bank. And on, August 15, 1971, he closed the window. He said, the window at the Federal Reserve is no longer open. You cannot show up with your dollars. It was at the Treasury, I guess. You cannot show up with your dollars and get gold. This window is closed. The bank is closed. It was a run on the bank, and Nixon was forced to close the window. It was a temporary measure that they were going to fix.
Mike Carter: And of course, keyword, temporary measure, forever.
Kevin Freeman: So. Exactly. And so what have we done since then? This is what's opened up all the problems that created a massive inflation. He put wage and price controls and then he started trying to fix the problem. And his fixes are the problem today. And the first thing that happened is our debt, which was $400 billion in the last 50, whatever, 55 years, it's grown from 400 billion to $40 trillion.
Mike Carter: And that's in the headlines everywhere right now. So that no longer is a back, back of mind topic. It's in the news everywhere. Bloomberg, Wallnua Street Journal, business journals, they're talking about it.
Kevin Freeman: Oh, ah, yeah, it is everywhere. And we have to take a break. When we go back, we'll talk about how that's in the headlines and all the things that differentiates. But the bottom line is we're not being unfaithful with our money. We're not keeping our promises of exchanging it for gold. And that's, that's really hurt us. All right, we'll take a break. When we come back, we're going to dive deeper into the four horsemen of the American apocalypse. We'll be right back.
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Kevin Freeman: I'm joined by the great Mike Carter. And we're talking about money. We're talking about how we've not been faithful with our unrighteous mammon here as a nation in the United States, but we can be individually faithful with our money. And there are only three things you can do with it. You can give it, you can spend it, or you can invest it. Here at Pirate Money Radio, we work to explain solutions that support all three areas in a way that promotes liberty, security and values. Patriot Mobile, it's a mobile phone company. They support the Pirate Money radio program. Patriot Mobile uses US carriers, including AT&T, Verizon and T Mobile, and operates on both Apple and Android phones. More information about our sister show, the Economic War Room and Patriot Mobile is [email protected] afr Kevan, can we go
Mike Carter: back to that $40 trillion in debt and what's going on right now? There was a quote I saw, from the Committee for responsible budget. 39 trillion to 40 trillion in under five months. The first trillion took until 1981. Now in less than five months, a trillion dollars gone. Like that.
Kevin Freeman: Well, you know, Mike, I remember sitting in this studio doing an economic war room show, and it was at the beginning, nobody knew what Covid was. And we were telling people on economic war room. We were ahead of the curve and told people, and I said, look, we're at 20 trillion in debt. We'll be at 30 trillion before the blink of an eye. That was this decade, right? We were at 20. So we went from. It took the entire history of the United Nation till the year 2020, to get 20 trillion in debt. And in the last six years, we've added another. How is that possible? Yeah, but that's what we've done.
Mike Carter: Yeah, but you've been calling it just like Babe Ruth. Well, this is going to happen about here. This is going to happen about here. You've been talking about all these threats back to secret weapon days in 2009, 2010, and they're happening.
Kevin Freeman: That was phase three. We called it, back. We had $10 trillion in debt at the end of 2008. And we predicted it'd be $40 trillion before it quadruples about every 20 years. In this case, it quadrupled in 18 years. so it's on. And here's the problem. Secret weapons said that other nations would stop buying our debts. And nobody, I mean, in the Pentagon, there are a handful of people that listen, but most people. Oh, are you kidding? US Dollar is the soundest thing. It's the cleanest dirty shirt in the laundry. Of course we've got our problems, but we're better off than everybody else. Everybody will always buy our debt. But that's not the case. Did you see that Reuters headline?
Mike Carter: Yeah, yeah, scary stuff. foreign holdings of US Treasuries fall in June, led by Japan, uk, China, the data shows. I mean, people are making a move, from our Treasuries into what? Gold? Pirate money.
Kevin Freeman: China added 20 tons of gold as reserve shift. That was in Yahoo Finance, August 10th. Here's the thing. China, when I started working in the pentagon, they had 13% at the peak of our total outstanding debt, 1.3 trillion out of a little over 10 trillion. Today they have 600 billion. So half of that's gone away. And that 600 billion with a denominator of 40 trillion. So right now we're talking about one and a half. They went from 10 to 15% to 1.5%. And they've done it just over the past 15 years or so.
Mike Carter: Things that are happening, I never thought possible, you know, we're seeing record debt, we're seeing the dollar maybe not being here the rest of our lives, like some people said. Although I hope it does. I, think you're going to have solutions for that as we get a little bit further into the show here. But, what's really happening, Kevan?
Kevin Freeman: Well, this was a plan of the Chinese. Absolutely. There's no question. I documented it in, Secret Weapon. I document it in every briefing I have. In fact, the official Chinese Communist Party journal, said, sell dollars, stop buying dollars, weaken Washington, make it look like market forces. That's all in the Pentagon paper. But it's not just them. It was also the Islamic Front, the Muslim Brotherhood, Qaradawi saying, we've got to weaken the dollar. Ah, People sell dollars and buy gold. It is a Muslim Brotherhood strategy as well. That's in the book the Red horse and the Greene Horse both unleashed when we left sound money. They were given essentially permission to ride in our country because we were being dishonest with our weights and measures. And, you look at Deuteronomy and you see Deuteronomy. It talks about the alien who lives among you, rises higher and higher. That's a nation under a curse. Nation under a blessing lends to every nation and borrows from none. So a nation under a curse borrows from every nation, and then we are a slave to the lender, and then we are vulnerable to attack. And that's how the red green access was formed. It was formed when Richard Nixon left the gold standard.
Mike Carter: So, yeah, what I heard you just say is when we left the gold standard, all these horses are being caused from that one critical part.
Kevin Freeman: That is one of the points of my new book. And we'll be talking more about the Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse and our six trials by fire when we come back right after this break. We'll be right back.
Mike Carter: Pirate Money Radio, helping you give, spend and invest in ways that align with liberty, security and values. Welcome back with your host, Kevan Freeman,
Kevin Freeman: and I'm joined by the great Mike Carter. And we're talking about the Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse. And Mike, I just want to share with you, I mentioned that August 15, 1971, unleashed all of these.
Mike Carter: the gold window. When we closed the gold. When we literally shut the window.
Kevin Freeman: When we shut the window, what happened was it created a panic among the people. It's like, if there's no gold backing our dollar anywhere, maybe our dollar's worthless. And so prices started rising. There was a panic. And so Nixon immediately put in wage and price controls, which are a bad idea. It's like, whatever you're making now, that's all you can make and whatever it costs to get a cheeseburger. That's all. And so if they couldn't get beef for whatever reason or any imported goods or anything, all of a sudden there was supply shortages. And Nixon was scared. So the first thing he did is he went to Beijing and met with Chairman Mao, and he struck a deal. We will give you intellectual property, we will give you money, we will build factories for you, whatever you need, and then you send us cheap goods. China was the 12th largest economy on the planet at the time. It was cheap labor, and it was a backwater, and we turned it into a powerhouse, and now it's the second largest economy. But it's still communist. We unleashed that.
Mike Carter: so because we got off the gold, we said, well, we got to have another way to get cheap goods, so we can work with a partner over here, and then they will buy our bonds.
Kevin Freeman: Right, but it was a communist partner. Yes, it was Chairman Mao.
Mike Carter: So we're going to team up with the Communists. They're going to buy our bonds, and then they're going to keep the
Kevin Freeman: dollar and they'll keep prices low by selling to Wal. I mean, Sam Walton at the time was Buy American. But now Walmart is all, China, China, China. And that was because we gave them our know how, we gave them our money, we gave them our playbook. And, they made a plan, a master plan to take us down. And the master plan we talk about all the time, unrestricted warfare. So that's the first one.
Mike Carter: Yeah. Let's get to the next one, the green one.
Kevin Freeman: The green one. We made a deal with the Saudis. Oil prices were going crazy. We had an energy crisis in.
Mike Carter: I remember that well in the Sevent.
Kevin Freeman: So we went in and struck a deal, say, look, we need cheap oil prices to keep our costs down. and here's a deal. Saudi King we will protect you from any other foreign nation if you will price all your oil in dollars, and then you'll reinvest those dollars back into treasury bonds. It's called the petrodollar. And they deny that it happened, but it absolutely happened. And so we struck a deal with them. And we said, we also want you to invest in America. What do you want us to invest in America? you know, you pick. Essentially, we said, you pick. Well, internally, he had threats. King Feisal had threats externally, and we were protecting him with the US Military. But how do you stop an internal coup he had? Huh? Radical Muslims trying to force him out to enforce Sharia law. Their way. And so he said, I'll tell you what. Don't be radical here, but I'll build you with all this excess money I'm getting now. Because oil price, I have to invest in America anyway. What should I invest in? So he started investing in mosques. And there are Wahhabist mosques and Salafist mosques that are radical that came here.
Mike Carter: And I'm not saying not the peaceful mosque that we hear about all the time.
Kevin Freeman: Do not censor me on this. This is from Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy magazine. Why exactly does Saudi Arabia fund the spread of Wahhabism? And you can look it up. They funded it. We're not talking peaceful. You know, if there's a neighbor that you have that's Muslim, that you know, you know, I'm not talking about that. number one, I don't know what's in their hearts. I wish I did. I wish they would come to Christ and all that. But I don't know. I don't know what's happening there. But I will tell you. Radical Muslim Brotherhood type Islamic was being spread in the United States with Saudi dollars because we closed the gold window. That's the green.
Mike Carter: This ideology that's going like crazy across the country right now with all these mosques everywhere. And I saw, the other day, I think it was Saudi. They're going to fund $120 million to get congressional, and Senate candidates in office now.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. Well, I was told when I was in Washington by the Chinese PLA Member who came to my talk. And I said, did I say anything wrong? She said, no, you got it right. And I said, are you going to whack me? And she said, no. I said, why not? And not that I want to be whacked, but why wouldn't you do it? And she said, because nobody will believe you. Why won't they believe you? We own half this town. So I just asked, who owns the other half? And she said, the Saudis.
Mike Carter: Wow.
Kevin Freeman: They bought Washington with our dollars.
Mike Carter: And half of that town is the yellows, which we're going to get into next.
Kevin Freeman: Well, we got to get to through the blue. And I'm just going to tease it. Guess when the World Economic Forum began.
Mike Carter: when we closed the gold window.
Kevin Freeman: Exactly. August 1971 is when, Klaus Schwab decided, right in that timeframe, let's build the World Economic Forum and take over the world. That all emerged. That's the blue horse. We'll talk about that when we come back from the break. But we'll also talk about the one you mentioned, the yellow horse, the most dangerous. But we'll also get into solutions.
Mike Carter: M. Welcome to Pirate with your host, Kevan Freeman, helping you unpack the economic headlines and providing real money solutions.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. And I'm talking with the great Mike Carter, and we're talking about the four Horsemen of the American apocalypse. We've covered China and Islam, radical Islamism. and now that was the red and the green. Now we're at the blue. And I'm just going to. I'm going to set Mike off when I'm going to say this. Klaus Schwab decided you should eat bugs when we left Gold backing.
Mike Carter: Exactly. So that's where it all goes back to. All right, that's definitely my hot button. But this blue thing, I think a lot of people don't realize how real it is. The World Economic Forum, the globalist, that's just kind of out there. That's not really impacting me. But it is when we look at what you talk about in the book here.
Kevin Freeman: Well, Bill Gates and a bunch of people got together and let's do pandemic preparedness in 2019, and we'll call it a novel coronavirus. And how do we respond? We'll lock everybody up and we'll create a vaccine, an MRNA vaccine, and we'll make everybody take it. The same guy, Bill Gates, who's caught on tape, and I don't know exactly what he meant, but when you see that clip of Bill Gates saying, well, if we work really hard to keep the population down, you know, through family planning and through abortion and through. He didn't say abortion, but family planning and through vaccines. And I was like, wait, what? Vaccines to keep the population down. It gets scary. And I'm not suggesting that he created vaccines to kill people, but that whole playbook. Yeah, Replacement migration of the United nations, central, bank, digital currencies, we can't eat meat. We have to eat more bugs, and we have to have open borders and we have to. All of that playbook was generated out of people who attend Davos and the
Mike Carter: World Economic Forum, the esg, the dei, all that.
Kevin Freeman: All of that. Yes.
Mike Carter: And it's all about control. And I've seen, you know, I saw the DEI through half of my career in corporate America and how that was being forced through there. Again, this is a plan that's being implemented. It's not just people talking about it philosophically, but they are pushing the buttons behind the scenes saying, all right, how do we make this? How do we control this? How do we control that?
Kevin Freeman: And it all connects. You see George Soros praising. Even though George Soros actually does complain about Chinese repression in certain areas, but he praises how efficient their government is. Klaus Schwab, you can see him on tape praising, we need to follow the China model. and then you see the whole BRICS thing. When I was in Moscow, in, 2006, and we learned that they were developing alternatives to the dollars. The brics? Yeah.
Mike Carter: that's central bank, digital currency, programmable money, all that kind of stuff. But Congress ruled against that. Right. We're safe now.
Kevin Freeman: We're safe for the time being in that one respect, even though private, entities are still trying to roll it out as tokenized this and stablecoins and so forth. But I want to mention, when I came back from Moscow in 2006 and started telling people that they were forming BRICS nations, all of a sudden this guy named Jim O', Neill, who is an economist with Wallnua street firm, comes out and says, you know, this is a great investment theme. Brazil, Russia, India, China, and then South Africa and a bunch of others. It's a great investment theme. Putin designed it to displace the dollar. And everybody laughed at me when I pointed that out. Mrs. Wynne, that 2006 is when I first heard of it. 2008 is when I started warning in the Pentagon about it.
Mike Carter: So they're not being quiet about this. You heard about it from the inside back then?
Kevin Freeman: Yes.
Mike Carter: and they're just executing on their plan.
Kevin Freeman: Well, now, July 6, Reuters, BRICS alternatives to dollars. No longer a fantasy economist, O' Neill says.
Mike Carter: Wow.
Kevin Freeman: And that's how we transition to the yellow horse. Wallnua Street. Wallnua street has decided once we left the goal backing to the dollar, they could print as much money as they wanted. They can create through the banking system as much money as they wanted. There's not tied to anything. And so people started on Wallnua street, let's make money from money, not make money from investing and creating and building things.
Mike Carter: And what happens to the rest of us, the middle class out there?
Kevin Freeman: Well, that's the Cantillon effect. Those that can make money from money get rich. And you see the increase in the money supply is correlated almost perfectly with the top 1/10 of 1%. And the rest of us, we haven't really seen mass advances in our income now. We've seen advances in technology, so our lives get better in that way, but we haven't seen our incomes in real terms actually really advance. And that's the yellow horse. They're making money off money, and they've globalized and they've done that. Now. That leads us to the six trials by fire.
Mike Carter: Okay, let's, let's run through those quick. What's number one?
Kevin Freeman: The debt.
Mike Carter: Okay, 40 trillion we talked about once.
Kevin Freeman: You have no constraint that you don't have to have a certain amount of gold for every dollar that you print.
Mike Carter: Yeah.
Kevin Freeman: It frees you to print as many as you want. Or as they say now, we digitally create them to make money out of nothing. And that's. The debt went from 400 billion to $40 trillion in a little over 50 years.
Mike Carter: And people heard all over the news the other day that, you know, we've got, you know, we're spending more on interest than we are on national security. After you do Social Security and Medicare, that's the third largest item. And it's growing super fast.
Kevin Freeman: Yes.
Mike Carter: All right, number two.
Kevin Freeman: Number two is once you have that much debt, then other people say, wait a minute, you don't have gold backing your currency and you got all this debt. Why should I loan you money? Foreign governments start to question why they should loan, and pretty soon they say, you know, we could take America down if we destroyed America's economy. How do we do that? Well, the Chinese said it, you stop buying their debt and you start dumping their debt. And all of a sudden, so the dollar's been under attack, which means we have inflation. Because we import so many goods, we have inflation, and that hurts real and normal people. So that's the second trial by fire. Is the dollar under attack both by inflation and by foreign currency?
Mike Carter: And new rails are being formed for different types of money out there.
Kevin Freeman: That's the BRICs, all right. That's what they're doing.
Mike Carter: Number three.
Kevin Freeman: Number three is programmable money. So how do we deal with this as a nation? All right, so in Washington, all the think tanks get together and say, wow, we don't back our money with anything. And other nations don't want to buy our currency. Maybe we should lock people down with the money. That's the gold confiscation idea from 1933. Only, we're going to trap them in the dollar. You can't buy or sell unless you use a dollar. Digital currency that we control, where we can determine if you can buy food or not or gasoline or electric stoves or gas stoves. A control currency. That's the third trial. It's all in the book.
Mike Carter: And that's happening in China today.
Kevin Freeman: It's happening around the world.
Mike Carter: It's already happening. So now it's a matter of when's it going to hit here and what are we going to have to work on?
Kevin Freeman: Well, right now we have action against it, but I'll tell you, 146 nations are developing it. The Federal Reserve is developing it. It is an inevitability. If you don't have an option to it, you'll be stuck in it. And you've got to prepare and make certain that you have options. So that's the third draw.
Mike Carter: Fourth one, the wealth gap. Let's talk about that. Because everybody's feeling that. Well, not everybody. A lot of people are feeling it.
Kevin Freeman: We talked about this. The elite crowd of Davos has figured out that every time we expand our, money supply, they make money from it. So if you're Mark Zuckerberg, you can borrow at 0% when we produce a lot of money. I looked at my credit card statements, I looked at my MasterCard and my Visa. They still had a 20, 25, 28% charge. If I don't pay my bill off at the end of every month. It's very hefty.
Mike Carter: Yeah.
Kevin Freeman: So the average person has to pay full interest. The wealthy get zero. They get free money. At one point they even got paid to borrow money. Wow, negative interest rates. Look it up. It was a thing recently, not that long ago.
Mike Carter: Let's, go to this next one. 5. And I think maybe this is Charlie's chapter, as I was reading through that.
Kevin Freeman: It is because if you feel like you're getting behind and can't afford things, you delay marriage and you delay babies. So some people have said the first time homebuyer is 40 years old. Well, you're not going to have a lot of babies. If the first time you can buy a home with a yard is when you wait till you're 40. People have delayed marriage. They were getting married at 20 years 100 years ago. Now it's 27, 28, 29. And then they'll wait three or four years before they have a baby. First baby at 34 or first baby at 21. Which family is going to have more kids?
Mike Carter: the 21 year olds for sure. And it's going to happen a lot quicker than if they wait because they're finding as you wait, it takes longer than you think sometimes.
Kevin Freeman: And our birth rate has gone down. So the average woman has 1.6 kids. Here in America, you have to have at least 2.1 on average in order to maintain the population. So our population is shrinking our births were down 1% in 2025, according to national, center for Health Statistics. Bottom line, we're losing families and losing kids, which means. Leads to trial number six.
Mike Carter: Yeah, I'm curious about this one. Let's talk about it in terms of what's really happening today.
Kevin Freeman: Trial number six requires that you have very generous open borders so that you can have people to pick your crops. That's the excuse. Or H1B visas you can have. So you import workers at the end and at the low end and every end in between. It is big business demanding open borders. It is the UN and world population people pushing for open borders. It's a Democrat party that used to oppose open borders demanding open borders. It is business. It is everybody combined saying, oh, we've got to have more people. But when you do that, you import people without them assimilating into your culture, you lose your nation. Look at France today. Look at Europe today, and just the
Mike Carter: Biden administration, it was like, six point. I don't remember. M. Harvard Kennedy School. Six point. Seven million illegal aliens were allowed in the US Under Biden. That's coming from a Harvard report.
Kevin Freeman: That's exactly right. That is the sixth trial by fire. It's a cascade. And all of them happen at once. And when we have that, we're gonna need solutions. Our currency's collapsing. Our neighborhoods are going away from being the family friendly that we thought. We're seeing all of these problems, and all of that leads to ultimately get our money part right. Pirate Money. So that. That's.
Mike Carter: There's a solution.
Kevin Freeman: The Four Horsemen. That's our six trials by fire. And we have several solutions, but we'll talk about them when we come back right after this break. We'll be back.
Mike Carter: Welcome back to Pirate Money Radio with your host, Kevan Freeman.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, I'm talking with the great Mike Carter, and we're talking about the Four Horsemen, the Six trials, and at least one solution. The first solution, we teased it, but it's the one we talk about all the time on Pirate Money Radio. And, Mike, you did it. Congratulations. On September 1st, I read the headline, Texans can use precious metals as legal tender under the new law. You and Lori and really, the whole team.
Mike Carter: All of us. Yeah. It's amazing to see it's moving. It's happening in Florida, in July. It's become law, and they're ready to say, let's get started. so that's exciting. but, Kevan, we went through the six trials quickly. Give me the 22nd six trials. So everybody understands it. And then we're going to run into these solutions.
Kevin Freeman: Well, we've got to get into it. And we need to give a word to Glint, too. But, all right, the six trials debt. We've racked up lots of debt. The debt has led to a tax on the dollar, on the US Dollar, and so foreign nations, and then just inflation attacking the US Dollar. The third is the solution, programmable money. I don't want central bank digital currency. The fourth is a wealth gap. It's the rich get richer, the poor get poorer. The fifth is that leads people to have fewer kids. I can't afford kids. They delay it. And that leads to the sixth, that we essentially import foreigners, and the foreigner who lives among us rises higher and higher. Deuteronomy 28. That's a nation under a curse, and we're losing our nation. That's the end game. The solution is to get back to honest money. And we're doing it in the various states. And they're using technology. The founders are in Arkansas, Florida, Louisiana, Missouri, Texas, and Utah. under Article 1, Section 10, the founders are using, put in there a clause for us to use gold and silver as money. And how do you do that? Well, for full disclosure, we've invested in a solution provider and support for this program comes from Glint. It's a financial technology service offering with a debit card and mobile app that enables users to access gold holdings for everyday purchases. With Glint, users maintain ownership of allocated physical gold stored in a managed vault. And at the time of a transaction, gold is sold in real time to cover the purchase amount in local currency. Glenn offers an alternative way to store and use the value. Combining gold and silver with modern payment infrastructure, Glint clients can monitor their goal balance, view transaction history, and manage their account through the Glint app, available on major mobile platforms. More details about how vaulted physical gold can be used as money are [email protected] Gold247 that's glintpay.com Gold247 and, Mike, I want to point out this is not just a personal solution. It could be a national solution. It's a way for America to bring gold from around the world in to shore up our currency, shore up our dollar, have honest money, but it's a personal solution. You and I, we went out and had dessert at Perry's and Grapevine, tell that story.
Mike Carter: So, yeah, it was great dessert. but for three of us, it was, about $60. And we paid for that in silver.
Kevin Freeman: An ounce of silver paid for that
Mike Carter: from the Florida Vault.
Kevin Freeman: An ounce of silver paid for that.
Mike Carter: And while we were in shock over the $60 dessert fee, we went back as well. Gosh, three years ago, that would have been about $20 versus $60 for silver to $25.
Kevin Freeman: Right.
Mike Carter: So what's happened essentially is that silver has kept up. It's not debased money, that silver has cut the steady store value. Now, silver goes up and down a little more than gold, but in that case, it aligned perfectly.
Kevin Freeman: Yep. No. And it's a way to protect your money. It's what we've done in those six states. and we're just trying to be honorable with money.
Mike Carter: Yeah. And, you know, and we're getting momentum across the country. more states will be coming on this next, this next session. But, it free. People understand this is a real solution because at first the news picks it up. It's like gold and silver. How are you going to spend gold and silver? And what this is is specifically gold and silver that you own. Glint doesn't own it. The state doesn't own it. The depository doesn't own it. It's gold you own attached to a debit card that you can spend anywhere that takes that MasterCard or debit card.
Kevin Freeman: And at that steakhouse, they made us three banana splits. The bill was $60 plus tip, and we paid for it with an ounce, literally an ounce of stuff, silver. And, five years ago it would have cost an ounce of silver. So if you hold your money in dollars, you're getting behind every day. But if you hold it in gold and silver, over the long term, we believe it'll hold up. No guarantees. By the way, gold and silver are volatile. They go up and down in value. But that is one of the solutions that we covered in our book the Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse and our six trials by Fire.
Mike Carter: And just for credibility, I don't think Perry's has banana splits, but they made us a fancy banana dessert with ice, cream and all the other stuff.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, we asked for a ban banana split. And they made a high end, high end, really quality. And ah, it was delicious. And while we were talking Art, Allie's calling in and, and the reason we eat banana splits is because Art Allie says that's what he orders at fancy restaurants, a banana split for dessert.
Mike Carter: Just to throw them off.
Kevin Freeman: Just to throw them off. Anyway, we're loving talking about the four Horsemen, the American apocalypse and our six trials by fire. And we will be back right now after this break.
Mike Carter: Pirate Money Radio helping you give, spend and invest in ways that align with liberty, security and values. Welcome back. With your host Kevan Freeman and Mike
Kevin Freeman: Carter, we're talking about the new book I've got out. It's 400 and some pages. It's the longest book that I've written. but there's a lot.
Mike Carter: I don't want you to scare people by that though, because it's an easy read. You're great at taking concepts that people haven't put together or connecting the dots and making it so it's easier for people to read. But this is 400 pages. That's going to be a great investment for you personally, but also for our country. There are real solutions that are in this thing. and I know for, those in the Real Life network, we've talked about four writers, six fires by trial. Give, them a close that they can walk away with from this. Kevan, we covered a lot of information in a short period of time. Getting the book is going to be the answer. But help understand. Okay, as I walk from this, when I buy this book, what do I expect to get from it?
Kevin Freeman: Well, first off, I went to nine amazing voices, credible people. plus Dr. Carson is the author of the Forward and nine people like Dr. Peter McCullough from Understanding Health and so forth. and walk through General Flynn for the National Intelligence Community. How do we understand bringing the thought
Mike Carter: leaders and subject matter experts on these topics?
Kevin Freeman: What's the solution from industry, nine people together. And essentially I just asked, is this true? Here's your area of expertise, for example, with, Dr. McCollo, who's one of the most respected cardiologists in the world, but he ran up against the blue and the yellow. The globalists were trying to tell us how to do health policy at the personal level, and he said no. He pushed back and he lost friends and lost jobs and lost a lot of stuff. But he stood up and said, no, I'm going to do what's right for the individual patient. He fought the blue and the yellow, and General Flynn fought the red horse, the Communism infiltration and the Islamist infiltration. And so I tried to get experts. Essentially, we're talking about literally four forces arrayed against your family and against our nation and against our 250th birthday. And they're working together, the Communists, particularly the Chinese Communists. Not the Chinese people, the Islamists. I'm not talking about your neighbor. I'm talking about those who plot to overthrow America and implement Sharia law and a caliphate. the globalists who want to literally control everything. And then the traitors, the cowards and the fools here that are selling us out to the red, green, blue. And so we talk about that and, and they're writing and we've made it easy for them. And we will walk through trials by fire. How we respond in those trials by fire will determine whether we succeed or fail as a nation, or succeed or fail as a family. And it's practical stuff. It's like whether or not you have kids and demographics and buy a house or debt or what do you do on immigration? Do you show up at the school boards? We have practical solutions, things that you can do. But if you find, feel like our country is going away as we're supposed to be celebrating 250 years of liberty and independence and it's like, where's it all going? This book explains it. And if you want to learn more, that's where you go to piratemoneyradio.com and things like that.
Mike Carter: Yeah, Kevan, what I appreciate about you and the vision for economic War Room and what the team's working on here is we don't approach anything from a spirit of fear, but from real solutions and knowing that God has the ultimate plan. But we're involved with that. We don't just sit. It doesn't mean you sit back and say, oh, I'm just going to wait till somebody does something. This means we get proactive and understand the knowledge, understand what we need to be doing, what steps we can be taking to protect liberty, security and values. Joshua 1:9 says, Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid. Do not be discouraged. The Lord your God is with you wherever you go. I think as Christians as we take that to heart and we look at what's in this book, we know that we're here for such a time as this and it's an exciting part to be here to help spread the good news of what's really happening and to share what we have with liberty, security and those Christian values.
Kevin Freeman: You know, I shared it with one spiritual, leader and she came back and said, I want a prayer strategy. How do I pray through this? And so I wrote up a prayer strategy and sent it to her and it's going to be disseminated intercessors for America and others. And we'll make our prayer strategy available at some point to all our listeners. If you want to get a copy of it, write us at Pirate, afrtemoneyradio.com and if you email us we'll send you the prayer strategy. All right, look, I think we've had a good hour covering 400 pages.
Mike Carter: We got the very short version of it, but I don't want to miss the detail that's in this that is helpful, and everybody needs to get up to speed on it.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. And we can make a difference. Individuals, you can make a difference, both in your family and in the country. You can be protected for this. All right, if you're on Real Life Network, stay faithful and stay free. But if you're following us on AFR or by podcast, stay tuned. We'll be right back.
Mike Carter: Welcome back to Pirate Money Radio with your host, Kevan Freeman.
Kevin Freeman: Yes. And for our American Family radio audience and the podcast crew, thank you for sailing with us today. I've got Mike Carter here with me. Mike, after all, we've covered all of the bad news and the challenges and what we. What the mistakes we've made over the last 50, 65 years. what gives you hope?
Mike Carter: I think what gives me hope is that Bible verse we shared in the earlier segment. Do not be afraid. Be strong and courageous. And the fact that I'm seeing God moving in so many ways, I'm seeing what we've been told is impossible to do happen, and that's over and over again. So I believe that God put each of us here, to participate, to make an impact, to further his kingdom. and so this is a really exciting time because when there's uncertainty, in the world, when things kind of get mixed up out there, people are saying, what's going on? What are the solutions? What do I need to be doing? We're going to see open hearts like, we've never seen before. And, Kevan, I think the book that you've put together here is one that's going to help people connect the dots, in ways that haven't been done before. But then say, okay, what does that mean for me? and what do I need to be doing? And God, what do you want me to do with this? Maybe it means you're going to call up a legislator and say, hey, this is important to me. Let's make sure we get sound money. Or let's make sure that, we're taking care of assimilation and our borders. those types of things are what God's called us to do. Yeah.
Kevin Freeman: I want to give you a really strong word here. I'm reading Jeremiah, I'm reading Ezekiel, I'm reading Daniel. And that's where the people of God were Displaced and sent to Babylon. And then they sought God and they were allowed to return. But Jeremiah has a passage there. If the nation that I've caused, you know, planned this disaster against relents, I will repent of the disaster. Here's the thing. We can stay in America now and have another 250 years if we make the right decisions now, if we honor God now, if we put our families and everyone else on God's path. This is not a time to be, oh, woe is me. Everything's going away, or just say, ah, it'll all be fine. This is a time to turn to God right now and not lose the country we're in. So let's pray. Father, thank you for this land and for 250 years of a people allowed to govern themselves under you. Give us eyes for the riders, courage to refuse the yellow horse, and wisdom to restore honest weights in our states and in our homes. God, comfort those who still mourn Charlie's death. Strengthen the remnant. Teach us to earn ethically, to save honestly, and to give generously. In Jesus name, Amen.
Mike Carter: Amen. Kevan, I'm so excited about this book. Every book you've put out, I've been excited about. But this is one that I think has real, real impact beyond what the others have done even. They've all kind of built upon each other. This feels like it's kind of the finale. I know it's not because you've got another good idea out there, but. But this is connecting all the dots, all the pieces, with solutions.
Kevin Freeman: It is an opportunity to give us 250 more years here in the United States for our children and our children's children. We've got a biblical responsibility. He's given us a stewardship opportunity in the greatest land, the greatest opportunity for liberty ever known to mankind. Nobody's ever had what we have. Let's not blow it. Let's make it work for all of us. Let's share the gospel. Let's share the good news. Let's share the liberty. All right. Thank you, Mike, for being with me. And, we. We're having a great time here. We'll be back next week, so until
Mike Carter: the next voyage, we'll be here.
Kevin Freeman: All right. God bless.
Kevin Freeman: Ahoy, mates. Welcome aboard another voyage of Pirate Money Radio, the show that sails against fiat tyranny, cultural confusion, and counterfeit ideas to chart a course toward liberty, security, and values built on biblical truth. I'm your captain, Kevan Freeman, coming to you from the heart of Texas.
Mike Carter: And I'm Mike Carter. It's been a little while since I've been back on the ship, but it's good to be on the show today.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, Mike, we've got a book hour. it's the same voyage. The headlines, they're not a coincidence. They're themes of my new book, that you've helped me work on. And they're walking into the world, real world, right now. It's like coming off the pages and you open up. Used to be you'd open a newspaper and you'd look, and there was headline. We don't do that so much. We open our app, lying in bed in the morning, and we look at the phone and say, what's going on that I need to deal with? But the headlines, they're just, like, straight from the book.
Mike Carter: They are. And I'm looking at the book cover right now. The Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse and our Six Trials by Fire, forwarded by Dr. Ben Carson, another great thought leader there. but, Kevan, what I've read through the book, top line. This, is a book for the hour. I mean, this is a printed material. It's not coming on social media. But this is current to what's happening today, and I'm super excited about it.
Kevin Freeman: It is. Sadly, we're, just past the anniversary of Charlie Kirk's, horrible murder. We're just past 9 11. we're in our 250.
Mike Carter: And you dedicated this book to Charlie. I mean, if I remember seeing that in the.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, no, it's dedicated to him because the themes in large part came from discussions, texts, chats that we had on saving civilization. And Charlie was all about creating a saving civilization action network. He said, we've got to do something, and he said, we've got to fight the red axis, and the green, red, green together. And we added blue and yellow, which was innovative. But, he agreed. And. Yeah, no, he. His fingerprints are all over this book.
Mike Carter: Yeah, I mean, I saw a scan in there as well, which I remember him being here and talking about that, Gosh, was it two years ago? I think it was. And that's alive right now. but Kevan, just look at it from a timing perspective. You've written a lot of books, you're a NewSong York Times bestselling author. With Secret Weapon, we've had Game Plan out there with practical solutions on what to do in different economies. Still very relevant today. According to Plan, which connected a lot of the dots. And now Pirate money, which, has been one of my topics. I've been living and breathing. but what's really new, what really stands out to you on this book this week?
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. All right, so Secret Weapon initially was explaining that there is economic warfare and financial terrorism and it can directly impact us the 2008 stock market crash. And game plan is, what do I do about it? How do I protect my money? And what happens if there's a cyber attack and so forth. According to Plan, like you said, it was bringing all of the evil that's attacking our country together and explaining this is their plan and how it works. Pirate Money was a solutions based book. And you've done just a phenomenal work on getting states to adopt pirate money legislation. I mean, overcoming that weird title. And you walk into a state and you tell a legislator, hey, I want you to promote pirate money in the state of Iowa.
Mike Carter: We have had a few people say it'd be impossible to do it, and it is, but God, and that's what's so cool, and that's what I believe in this book. This is. But God, the insights that are here, the fact that this is not just showing people how to connect the dots, but this is really a call to action.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. And I want to be clear, this Four Horsemen sounds like a biblical title. And yes, I borrowed it from the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ given to Jon on the Isle of Patmos. Yeah, I understand where that imagery comes from. But. But this is written about what America is facing. And so the new things in this book, are several. First, Charlie Kirk said, we have communism and Islam or Islamism combining red green axis. And they're working together to undermine. And everybody can. You can see that when you see Zoram and Doni in NewSong York. And you know he's a communist and he is Muslim, Twelver. And you wonder, is he here to take America down? So that's the first thing. And Charlie was big on understanding the red green axis. But I said, what about the blue? And he said, what do you mean? I said, well, the globalists, the people that, locked us down in pandemic that told us that the World Health Organization knows best that ivermectin is horse paste. And the globalists who want to bring a central bank digital currency who have this, replacement migration plan. And no, that is not false. In the book, I show you the actual UN document where they use the term replacement migration. So YouTube censors, if this gets out on YouTube, don't say that's false. I'm telling you right now, it's in an official UN document. So I added the blue, red, green, blue. And then I added the fourth one, which is yellow, which is our own traitors, cowards, greedy hearts. the traitors, cowards, and fools have opened the door. That was the first. First new thing. Adding blue and yellow to the red and green.
Mike Carter: Yeah.
Kevin Freeman: The second new thing is something we talk about all the time, and that is all of this was unleashed. And I document it and prove it. I think in the book, when we left the gold standard, which is fulfilling biblical prophecy, essentially. I mean, Jesus said, if you're not faithful with your unrighteous mammon, no one will trust you with true riches. And he's essentially his words once again, proven right. When we became dishonest in our weights and measures, when we started cheating people with our money, that's the second point that unleashed the Four Horsemen. We'll talk about that throughout the show. And then the third real thing that happened was, that in the book, we give solutions. We actually say, here's how to protect your family, but more important. Well, not more importantly, equally importantly, how to protect our nation.
Mike Carter: Yeah, solutions. And I would say these, are solutions that require action. And not just sitting and reading the book and saying, that's good, but things that say, hey, what do I need to do to make sure? I mean, one of the scariest horses to me is the yellow, the traitors within. The fact that there are people working against our best interest in government, maybe in finance, in the globalist vision. All these things that are working against us, and people are saying, yeah, that's okay with me. A, completely different ideology. And, Kevan, you said one of the fascinating things to me since I've been living and breathing pirate money.
Kevin Freeman: Yes.
Mike Carter: is, you know, you talk about all links back to this. Closing the gold window.
Kevin Freeman: August 15th.
Mike Carter: Yeah.
Mike Carter: Ah, now, gold window. I mean, I used to be in home building. I understand windows and building. When you say gold window. Talk to me about that in kind of plain English here. What would happen there?
Kevin Freeman: August 15, 1971. It was a Sunday, and what had happened was we knew that during the Great Depression, 1933, Franklin Delano Roosevelt said, the American public is no longer allowed to own gold. And they went door to door, literally. They said, you turn your gold in, and they took everybody's gold. It was confiscation. And they paid them $20 and something per ounce. And then they marked it up to $35 an ounce, and it stayed at 35.
Mike Carter: A year later, a year later, after
Kevin Freeman: they had it, after they took it from everybody, then they said, all of a sudden, it's worth 35 an ounce. And from 1933 until, 1971, it had stayed $35 an ounce. Now, after World War II, there was one superpower in the world that was the United States. Everybody said, well, we trust you. You know, there might be another war here in Europe. We can't trust our gold there, but America is safe. So they moved all their gold to America, and we gave them dollars as receipts that they could go. Anytime you want to turn it in, you can turn your dollars in and get gold at $35 an oun. Now, under the law, every dollar that the Federal Reserve created had to be backed 40% by gold until Lyndon Johnson. And then Lyndon Johnson said, how about 25%? We don't need all that backing. And so he wanted extra money, less gold, so he could print more dollars, so he could pay for the Vietnam War, so he could pay for the War on poverty, for his big social programs. And then eventually, he dropped it to zero. So there was no law requiring gold backing. Well, other nations that have given us their gold. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're not keeping the gold. can you imagine? You deposit your money in the bank, and they decide, well, we're not going to keep the money here. All of a sudden, they realized it. Charles de Gaulle led a charge. He came to America and said, some people say he showed up with a warship. I don't know. That's probably apocryphal. I was 10 at the time. You were 9 at the time.
Mike Carter: I don't remember any of that as a kid.
Kevin Freeman: But the bottom line is, here are my dollars. I want gold. And Richard Nixon faced a run on the bank. And on, August 15, 1971, he closed the window. He said, the window at the Federal Reserve is no longer open. You cannot show up with your dollars. It was at the Treasury, I guess. You cannot show up with your dollars and get gold. This window is closed. The bank is closed. It was a run on the bank, and Nixon was forced to close the window. It was a temporary measure that they were going to fix.
Mike Carter: And of course, keyword, temporary measure, forever.
Kevin Freeman: So. Exactly. And so what have we done since then? This is what's opened up all the problems that created a massive inflation. He put wage and price controls and then he started trying to fix the problem. And his fixes are the problem today. And the first thing that happened is our debt, which was $400 billion in the last 50, whatever, 55 years, it's grown from 400 billion to $40 trillion.
Mike Carter: And that's in the headlines everywhere right now. So that no longer is a back, back of mind topic. It's in the news everywhere. Bloomberg, Wallnua Street Journal, business journals, they're talking about it.
Kevin Freeman: Oh, ah, yeah, it is everywhere. And we have to take a break. When we go back, we'll talk about how that's in the headlines and all the things that differentiates. But the bottom line is we're not being unfaithful with our money. We're not keeping our promises of exchanging it for gold. And that's, that's really hurt us. All right, we'll take a break. When we come back, we're going to dive deeper into the four horsemen of the American apocalypse. We'll be right back.
Mike Carter: Welcome back to Pirate Money Radio with your host, Kevan Bremen.
Kevin Freeman: I'm joined by the great Mike Carter. And we're talking about money. We're talking about how we've not been faithful with our unrighteous mammon here as a nation in the United States, but we can be individually faithful with our money. And there are only three things you can do with it. You can give it, you can spend it, or you can invest it. Here at Pirate Money Radio, we work to explain solutions that support all three areas in a way that promotes liberty, security and values. Patriot Mobile, it's a mobile phone company. They support the Pirate Money radio program. Patriot Mobile uses US carriers, including AT&T, Verizon and T Mobile, and operates on both Apple and Android phones. More information about our sister show, the Economic War Room and Patriot Mobile is [email protected] afr Kevan, can we go
Mike Carter: back to that $40 trillion in debt and what's going on right now? There was a quote I saw, from the Committee for responsible budget. 39 trillion to 40 trillion in under five months. The first trillion took until 1981. Now in less than five months, a trillion dollars gone. Like that.
Kevin Freeman: Well, you know, Mike, I remember sitting in this studio doing an economic war room show, and it was at the beginning, nobody knew what Covid was. And we were telling people on economic war room. We were ahead of the curve and told people, and I said, look, we're at 20 trillion in debt. We'll be at 30 trillion before the blink of an eye. That was this decade, right? We were at 20. So we went from. It took the entire history of the United Nation till the year 2020, to get 20 trillion in debt. And in the last six years, we've added another. How is that possible? Yeah, but that's what we've done.
Mike Carter: Yeah, but you've been calling it just like Babe Ruth. Well, this is going to happen about here. This is going to happen about here. You've been talking about all these threats back to secret weapon days in 2009, 2010, and they're happening.
Kevin Freeman: That was phase three. We called it, back. We had $10 trillion in debt at the end of 2008. And we predicted it'd be $40 trillion before it quadruples about every 20 years. In this case, it quadrupled in 18 years. so it's on. And here's the problem. Secret weapons said that other nations would stop buying our debts. And nobody, I mean, in the Pentagon, there are a handful of people that listen, but most people. Oh, are you kidding? US Dollar is the soundest thing. It's the cleanest dirty shirt in the laundry. Of course we've got our problems, but we're better off than everybody else. Everybody will always buy our debt. But that's not the case. Did you see that Reuters headline?
Mike Carter: Yeah, yeah, scary stuff. foreign holdings of US Treasuries fall in June, led by Japan, uk, China, the data shows. I mean, people are making a move, from our Treasuries into what? Gold? Pirate money.
Kevin Freeman: China added 20 tons of gold as reserve shift. That was in Yahoo Finance, August 10th. Here's the thing. China, when I started working in the pentagon, they had 13% at the peak of our total outstanding debt, 1.3 trillion out of a little over 10 trillion. Today they have 600 billion. So half of that's gone away. And that 600 billion with a denominator of 40 trillion. So right now we're talking about one and a half. They went from 10 to 15% to 1.5%. And they've done it just over the past 15 years or so.
Mike Carter: Things that are happening, I never thought possible, you know, we're seeing record debt, we're seeing the dollar maybe not being here the rest of our lives, like some people said. Although I hope it does. I, think you're going to have solutions for that as we get a little bit further into the show here. But, what's really happening, Kevan?
Kevin Freeman: Well, this was a plan of the Chinese. Absolutely. There's no question. I documented it in, Secret Weapon. I document it in every briefing I have. In fact, the official Chinese Communist Party journal, said, sell dollars, stop buying dollars, weaken Washington, make it look like market forces. That's all in the Pentagon paper. But it's not just them. It was also the Islamic Front, the Muslim Brotherhood, Qaradawi saying, we've got to weaken the dollar. Ah, People sell dollars and buy gold. It is a Muslim Brotherhood strategy as well. That's in the book the Red horse and the Greene Horse both unleashed when we left sound money. They were given essentially permission to ride in our country because we were being dishonest with our weights and measures. And, you look at Deuteronomy and you see Deuteronomy. It talks about the alien who lives among you, rises higher and higher. That's a nation under a curse. Nation under a blessing lends to every nation and borrows from none. So a nation under a curse borrows from every nation, and then we are a slave to the lender, and then we are vulnerable to attack. And that's how the red green access was formed. It was formed when Richard Nixon left the gold standard.
Mike Carter: So, yeah, what I heard you just say is when we left the gold standard, all these horses are being caused from that one critical part.
Kevin Freeman: That is one of the points of my new book. And we'll be talking more about the Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse and our six trials by fire when we come back right after this break. We'll be right back.
Mike Carter: Pirate Money Radio, helping you give, spend and invest in ways that align with liberty, security and values. Welcome back with your host, Kevan Freeman,
Kevin Freeman: and I'm joined by the great Mike Carter. And we're talking about the Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse. And Mike, I just want to share with you, I mentioned that August 15, 1971, unleashed all of these.
Mike Carter: the gold window. When we closed the gold. When we literally shut the window.
Kevin Freeman: When we shut the window, what happened was it created a panic among the people. It's like, if there's no gold backing our dollar anywhere, maybe our dollar's worthless. And so prices started rising. There was a panic. And so Nixon immediately put in wage and price controls, which are a bad idea. It's like, whatever you're making now, that's all you can make and whatever it costs to get a cheeseburger. That's all. And so if they couldn't get beef for whatever reason or any imported goods or anything, all of a sudden there was supply shortages. And Nixon was scared. So the first thing he did is he went to Beijing and met with Chairman Mao, and he struck a deal. We will give you intellectual property, we will give you money, we will build factories for you, whatever you need, and then you send us cheap goods. China was the 12th largest economy on the planet at the time. It was cheap labor, and it was a backwater, and we turned it into a powerhouse, and now it's the second largest economy. But it's still communist. We unleashed that.
Mike Carter: so because we got off the gold, we said, well, we got to have another way to get cheap goods, so we can work with a partner over here, and then they will buy our bonds.
Kevin Freeman: Right, but it was a communist partner. Yes, it was Chairman Mao.
Mike Carter: So we're going to team up with the Communists. They're going to buy our bonds, and then they're going to keep the
Kevin Freeman: dollar and they'll keep prices low by selling to Wal. I mean, Sam Walton at the time was Buy American. But now Walmart is all, China, China, China. And that was because we gave them our know how, we gave them our money, we gave them our playbook. And, they made a plan, a master plan to take us down. And the master plan we talk about all the time, unrestricted warfare. So that's the first one.
Mike Carter: Yeah. Let's get to the next one, the green one.
Kevin Freeman: The green one. We made a deal with the Saudis. Oil prices were going crazy. We had an energy crisis in.
Mike Carter: I remember that well in the Sevent.
Kevin Freeman: So we went in and struck a deal, say, look, we need cheap oil prices to keep our costs down. and here's a deal. Saudi King we will protect you from any other foreign nation if you will price all your oil in dollars, and then you'll reinvest those dollars back into treasury bonds. It's called the petrodollar. And they deny that it happened, but it absolutely happened. And so we struck a deal with them. And we said, we also want you to invest in America. What do you want us to invest in America? you know, you pick. Essentially, we said, you pick. Well, internally, he had threats. King Feisal had threats externally, and we were protecting him with the US Military. But how do you stop an internal coup he had? Huh? Radical Muslims trying to force him out to enforce Sharia law. Their way. And so he said, I'll tell you what. Don't be radical here, but I'll build you with all this excess money I'm getting now. Because oil price, I have to invest in America anyway. What should I invest in? So he started investing in mosques. And there are Wahhabist mosques and Salafist mosques that are radical that came here.
Mike Carter: And I'm not saying not the peaceful mosque that we hear about all the time.
Kevin Freeman: Do not censor me on this. This is from Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy magazine. Why exactly does Saudi Arabia fund the spread of Wahhabism? And you can look it up. They funded it. We're not talking peaceful. You know, if there's a neighbor that you have that's Muslim, that you know, you know, I'm not talking about that. number one, I don't know what's in their hearts. I wish I did. I wish they would come to Christ and all that. But I don't know. I don't know what's happening there. But I will tell you. Radical Muslim Brotherhood type Islamic was being spread in the United States with Saudi dollars because we closed the gold window. That's the green.
Mike Carter: This ideology that's going like crazy across the country right now with all these mosques everywhere. And I saw, the other day, I think it was Saudi. They're going to fund $120 million to get congressional, and Senate candidates in office now.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. Well, I was told when I was in Washington by the Chinese PLA Member who came to my talk. And I said, did I say anything wrong? She said, no, you got it right. And I said, are you going to whack me? And she said, no. I said, why not? And not that I want to be whacked, but why wouldn't you do it? And she said, because nobody will believe you. Why won't they believe you? We own half this town. So I just asked, who owns the other half? And she said, the Saudis.
Mike Carter: Wow.
Kevin Freeman: They bought Washington with our dollars.
Mike Carter: And half of that town is the yellows, which we're going to get into next.
Kevin Freeman: Well, we got to get to through the blue. And I'm just going to tease it. Guess when the World Economic Forum began.
Mike Carter: when we closed the gold window.
Kevin Freeman: Exactly. August 1971 is when, Klaus Schwab decided, right in that timeframe, let's build the World Economic Forum and take over the world. That all emerged. That's the blue horse. We'll talk about that when we come back from the break. But we'll also talk about the one you mentioned, the yellow horse, the most dangerous. But we'll also get into solutions.
Mike Carter: M. Welcome to Pirate with your host, Kevan Freeman, helping you unpack the economic headlines and providing real money solutions.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. And I'm talking with the great Mike Carter, and we're talking about the four Horsemen of the American apocalypse. We've covered China and Islam, radical Islamism. and now that was the red and the green. Now we're at the blue. And I'm just going to. I'm going to set Mike off when I'm going to say this. Klaus Schwab decided you should eat bugs when we left Gold backing.
Mike Carter: Exactly. So that's where it all goes back to. All right, that's definitely my hot button. But this blue thing, I think a lot of people don't realize how real it is. The World Economic Forum, the globalist, that's just kind of out there. That's not really impacting me. But it is when we look at what you talk about in the book here.
Kevin Freeman: Well, Bill Gates and a bunch of people got together and let's do pandemic preparedness in 2019, and we'll call it a novel coronavirus. And how do we respond? We'll lock everybody up and we'll create a vaccine, an MRNA vaccine, and we'll make everybody take it. The same guy, Bill Gates, who's caught on tape, and I don't know exactly what he meant, but when you see that clip of Bill Gates saying, well, if we work really hard to keep the population down, you know, through family planning and through abortion and through. He didn't say abortion, but family planning and through vaccines. And I was like, wait, what? Vaccines to keep the population down. It gets scary. And I'm not suggesting that he created vaccines to kill people, but that whole playbook. Yeah, Replacement migration of the United nations, central, bank, digital currencies, we can't eat meat. We have to eat more bugs, and we have to have open borders and we have to. All of that playbook was generated out of people who attend Davos and the
Mike Carter: World Economic Forum, the esg, the dei, all that.
Kevin Freeman: All of that. Yes.
Mike Carter: And it's all about control. And I've seen, you know, I saw the DEI through half of my career in corporate America and how that was being forced through there. Again, this is a plan that's being implemented. It's not just people talking about it philosophically, but they are pushing the buttons behind the scenes saying, all right, how do we make this? How do we control this? How do we control that?
Kevin Freeman: And it all connects. You see George Soros praising. Even though George Soros actually does complain about Chinese repression in certain areas, but he praises how efficient their government is. Klaus Schwab, you can see him on tape praising, we need to follow the China model. and then you see the whole BRICS thing. When I was in Moscow, in, 2006, and we learned that they were developing alternatives to the dollars. The brics? Yeah.
Mike Carter: that's central bank, digital currency, programmable money, all that kind of stuff. But Congress ruled against that. Right. We're safe now.
Kevin Freeman: We're safe for the time being in that one respect, even though private, entities are still trying to roll it out as tokenized this and stablecoins and so forth. But I want to mention, when I came back from Moscow in 2006 and started telling people that they were forming BRICS nations, all of a sudden this guy named Jim O', Neill, who is an economist with Wallnua street firm, comes out and says, you know, this is a great investment theme. Brazil, Russia, India, China, and then South Africa and a bunch of others. It's a great investment theme. Putin designed it to displace the dollar. And everybody laughed at me when I pointed that out. Mrs. Wynne, that 2006 is when I first heard of it. 2008 is when I started warning in the Pentagon about it.
Mike Carter: So they're not being quiet about this. You heard about it from the inside back then?
Kevin Freeman: Yes.
Mike Carter: and they're just executing on their plan.
Kevin Freeman: Well, now, July 6, Reuters, BRICS alternatives to dollars. No longer a fantasy economist, O' Neill says.
Mike Carter: Wow.
Kevin Freeman: And that's how we transition to the yellow horse. Wallnua Street. Wallnua street has decided once we left the goal backing to the dollar, they could print as much money as they wanted. They can create through the banking system as much money as they wanted. There's not tied to anything. And so people started on Wallnua street, let's make money from money, not make money from investing and creating and building things.
Mike Carter: And what happens to the rest of us, the middle class out there?
Kevin Freeman: Well, that's the Cantillon effect. Those that can make money from money get rich. And you see the increase in the money supply is correlated almost perfectly with the top 1/10 of 1%. And the rest of us, we haven't really seen mass advances in our income now. We've seen advances in technology, so our lives get better in that way, but we haven't seen our incomes in real terms actually really advance. And that's the yellow horse. They're making money off money, and they've globalized and they've done that. Now. That leads us to the six trials by fire.
Mike Carter: Okay, let's, let's run through those quick. What's number one?
Kevin Freeman: The debt.
Mike Carter: Okay, 40 trillion we talked about once.
Kevin Freeman: You have no constraint that you don't have to have a certain amount of gold for every dollar that you print.
Mike Carter: Yeah.
Kevin Freeman: It frees you to print as many as you want. Or as they say now, we digitally create them to make money out of nothing. And that's. The debt went from 400 billion to $40 trillion in a little over 50 years.
Mike Carter: And people heard all over the news the other day that, you know, we've got, you know, we're spending more on interest than we are on national security. After you do Social Security and Medicare, that's the third largest item. And it's growing super fast.
Kevin Freeman: Yes.
Mike Carter: All right, number two.
Kevin Freeman: Number two is once you have that much debt, then other people say, wait a minute, you don't have gold backing your currency and you got all this debt. Why should I loan you money? Foreign governments start to question why they should loan, and pretty soon they say, you know, we could take America down if we destroyed America's economy. How do we do that? Well, the Chinese said it, you stop buying their debt and you start dumping their debt. And all of a sudden, so the dollar's been under attack, which means we have inflation. Because we import so many goods, we have inflation, and that hurts real and normal people. So that's the second trial by fire. Is the dollar under attack both by inflation and by foreign currency?
Mike Carter: And new rails are being formed for different types of money out there.
Kevin Freeman: That's the BRICs, all right. That's what they're doing.
Mike Carter: Number three.
Kevin Freeman: Number three is programmable money. So how do we deal with this as a nation? All right, so in Washington, all the think tanks get together and say, wow, we don't back our money with anything. And other nations don't want to buy our currency. Maybe we should lock people down with the money. That's the gold confiscation idea from 1933. Only, we're going to trap them in the dollar. You can't buy or sell unless you use a dollar. Digital currency that we control, where we can determine if you can buy food or not or gasoline or electric stoves or gas stoves. A control currency. That's the third trial. It's all in the book.
Mike Carter: And that's happening in China today.
Kevin Freeman: It's happening around the world.
Mike Carter: It's already happening. So now it's a matter of when's it going to hit here and what are we going to have to work on?
Kevin Freeman: Well, right now we have action against it, but I'll tell you, 146 nations are developing it. The Federal Reserve is developing it. It is an inevitability. If you don't have an option to it, you'll be stuck in it. And you've got to prepare and make certain that you have options. So that's the third draw.
Mike Carter: Fourth one, the wealth gap. Let's talk about that. Because everybody's feeling that. Well, not everybody. A lot of people are feeling it.
Kevin Freeman: We talked about this. The elite crowd of Davos has figured out that every time we expand our, money supply, they make money from it. So if you're Mark Zuckerberg, you can borrow at 0% when we produce a lot of money. I looked at my credit card statements, I looked at my MasterCard and my Visa. They still had a 20, 25, 28% charge. If I don't pay my bill off at the end of every month. It's very hefty.
Mike Carter: Yeah.
Kevin Freeman: So the average person has to pay full interest. The wealthy get zero. They get free money. At one point they even got paid to borrow money. Wow, negative interest rates. Look it up. It was a thing recently, not that long ago.
Mike Carter: Let's, go to this next one. 5. And I think maybe this is Charlie's chapter, as I was reading through that.
Kevin Freeman: It is because if you feel like you're getting behind and can't afford things, you delay marriage and you delay babies. So some people have said the first time homebuyer is 40 years old. Well, you're not going to have a lot of babies. If the first time you can buy a home with a yard is when you wait till you're 40. People have delayed marriage. They were getting married at 20 years 100 years ago. Now it's 27, 28, 29. And then they'll wait three or four years before they have a baby. First baby at 34 or first baby at 21. Which family is going to have more kids?
Mike Carter: the 21 year olds for sure. And it's going to happen a lot quicker than if they wait because they're finding as you wait, it takes longer than you think sometimes.
Kevin Freeman: And our birth rate has gone down. So the average woman has 1.6 kids. Here in America, you have to have at least 2.1 on average in order to maintain the population. So our population is shrinking our births were down 1% in 2025, according to national, center for Health Statistics. Bottom line, we're losing families and losing kids, which means. Leads to trial number six.
Mike Carter: Yeah, I'm curious about this one. Let's talk about it in terms of what's really happening today.
Kevin Freeman: Trial number six requires that you have very generous open borders so that you can have people to pick your crops. That's the excuse. Or H1B visas you can have. So you import workers at the end and at the low end and every end in between. It is big business demanding open borders. It is the UN and world population people pushing for open borders. It's a Democrat party that used to oppose open borders demanding open borders. It is business. It is everybody combined saying, oh, we've got to have more people. But when you do that, you import people without them assimilating into your culture, you lose your nation. Look at France today. Look at Europe today, and just the
Mike Carter: Biden administration, it was like, six point. I don't remember. M. Harvard Kennedy School. Six point. Seven million illegal aliens were allowed in the US Under Biden. That's coming from a Harvard report.
Kevin Freeman: That's exactly right. That is the sixth trial by fire. It's a cascade. And all of them happen at once. And when we have that, we're gonna need solutions. Our currency's collapsing. Our neighborhoods are going away from being the family friendly that we thought. We're seeing all of these problems, and all of that leads to ultimately get our money part right. Pirate Money. So that. That's.
Mike Carter: There's a solution.
Kevin Freeman: The Four Horsemen. That's our six trials by fire. And we have several solutions, but we'll talk about them when we come back right after this break. We'll be back.
Mike Carter: Welcome back to Pirate Money Radio with your host, Kevan Freeman.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, I'm talking with the great Mike Carter, and we're talking about the Four Horsemen, the Six trials, and at least one solution. The first solution, we teased it, but it's the one we talk about all the time on Pirate Money Radio. And, Mike, you did it. Congratulations. On September 1st, I read the headline, Texans can use precious metals as legal tender under the new law. You and Lori and really, the whole team.
Mike Carter: All of us. Yeah. It's amazing to see it's moving. It's happening in Florida, in July. It's become law, and they're ready to say, let's get started. so that's exciting. but, Kevan, we went through the six trials quickly. Give me the 22nd six trials. So everybody understands it. And then we're going to run into these solutions.
Kevin Freeman: Well, we've got to get into it. And we need to give a word to Glint, too. But, all right, the six trials debt. We've racked up lots of debt. The debt has led to a tax on the dollar, on the US Dollar, and so foreign nations, and then just inflation attacking the US Dollar. The third is the solution, programmable money. I don't want central bank digital currency. The fourth is a wealth gap. It's the rich get richer, the poor get poorer. The fifth is that leads people to have fewer kids. I can't afford kids. They delay it. And that leads to the sixth, that we essentially import foreigners, and the foreigner who lives among us rises higher and higher. Deuteronomy 28. That's a nation under a curse, and we're losing our nation. That's the end game. The solution is to get back to honest money. And we're doing it in the various states. And they're using technology. The founders are in Arkansas, Florida, Louisiana, Missouri, Texas, and Utah. under Article 1, Section 10, the founders are using, put in there a clause for us to use gold and silver as money. And how do you do that? Well, for full disclosure, we've invested in a solution provider and support for this program comes from Glint. It's a financial technology service offering with a debit card and mobile app that enables users to access gold holdings for everyday purchases. With Glint, users maintain ownership of allocated physical gold stored in a managed vault. And at the time of a transaction, gold is sold in real time to cover the purchase amount in local currency. Glenn offers an alternative way to store and use the value. Combining gold and silver with modern payment infrastructure, Glint clients can monitor their goal balance, view transaction history, and manage their account through the Glint app, available on major mobile platforms. More details about how vaulted physical gold can be used as money are [email protected] Gold247 that's glintpay.com Gold247 and, Mike, I want to point out this is not just a personal solution. It could be a national solution. It's a way for America to bring gold from around the world in to shore up our currency, shore up our dollar, have honest money, but it's a personal solution. You and I, we went out and had dessert at Perry's and Grapevine, tell that story.
Mike Carter: So, yeah, it was great dessert. but for three of us, it was, about $60. And we paid for that in silver.
Kevin Freeman: An ounce of silver paid for that
Mike Carter: from the Florida Vault.
Kevin Freeman: An ounce of silver paid for that.
Mike Carter: And while we were in shock over the $60 dessert fee, we went back as well. Gosh, three years ago, that would have been about $20 versus $60 for silver to $25.
Kevin Freeman: Right.
Mike Carter: So what's happened essentially is that silver has kept up. It's not debased money, that silver has cut the steady store value. Now, silver goes up and down a little more than gold, but in that case, it aligned perfectly.
Kevin Freeman: Yep. No. And it's a way to protect your money. It's what we've done in those six states. and we're just trying to be honorable with money.
Mike Carter: Yeah. And, you know, and we're getting momentum across the country. more states will be coming on this next, this next session. But, it free. People understand this is a real solution because at first the news picks it up. It's like gold and silver. How are you going to spend gold and silver? And what this is is specifically gold and silver that you own. Glint doesn't own it. The state doesn't own it. The depository doesn't own it. It's gold you own attached to a debit card that you can spend anywhere that takes that MasterCard or debit card.
Kevin Freeman: And at that steakhouse, they made us three banana splits. The bill was $60 plus tip, and we paid for it with an ounce, literally an ounce of stuff, silver. And, five years ago it would have cost an ounce of silver. So if you hold your money in dollars, you're getting behind every day. But if you hold it in gold and silver, over the long term, we believe it'll hold up. No guarantees. By the way, gold and silver are volatile. They go up and down in value. But that is one of the solutions that we covered in our book the Four Horsemen of the American Apocalypse and our six trials by Fire.
Mike Carter: And just for credibility, I don't think Perry's has banana splits, but they made us a fancy banana dessert with ice, cream and all the other stuff.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah, we asked for a ban banana split. And they made a high end, high end, really quality. And ah, it was delicious. And while we were talking Art, Allie's calling in and, and the reason we eat banana splits is because Art Allie says that's what he orders at fancy restaurants, a banana split for dessert.
Mike Carter: Just to throw them off.
Kevin Freeman: Just to throw them off. Anyway, we're loving talking about the four Horsemen, the American apocalypse and our six trials by fire. And we will be back right now after this break.
Mike Carter: Pirate Money Radio helping you give, spend and invest in ways that align with liberty, security and values. Welcome back. With your host Kevan Freeman and Mike
Kevin Freeman: Carter, we're talking about the new book I've got out. It's 400 and some pages. It's the longest book that I've written. but there's a lot.
Mike Carter: I don't want you to scare people by that though, because it's an easy read. You're great at taking concepts that people haven't put together or connecting the dots and making it so it's easier for people to read. But this is 400 pages. That's going to be a great investment for you personally, but also for our country. There are real solutions that are in this thing. and I know for, those in the Real Life network, we've talked about four writers, six fires by trial. Give, them a close that they can walk away with from this. Kevan, we covered a lot of information in a short period of time. Getting the book is going to be the answer. But help understand. Okay, as I walk from this, when I buy this book, what do I expect to get from it?
Kevin Freeman: Well, first off, I went to nine amazing voices, credible people. plus Dr. Carson is the author of the Forward and nine people like Dr. Peter McCullough from Understanding Health and so forth. and walk through General Flynn for the National Intelligence Community. How do we understand bringing the thought
Mike Carter: leaders and subject matter experts on these topics?
Kevin Freeman: What's the solution from industry, nine people together. And essentially I just asked, is this true? Here's your area of expertise, for example, with, Dr. McCollo, who's one of the most respected cardiologists in the world, but he ran up against the blue and the yellow. The globalists were trying to tell us how to do health policy at the personal level, and he said no. He pushed back and he lost friends and lost jobs and lost a lot of stuff. But he stood up and said, no, I'm going to do what's right for the individual patient. He fought the blue and the yellow, and General Flynn fought the red horse, the Communism infiltration and the Islamist infiltration. And so I tried to get experts. Essentially, we're talking about literally four forces arrayed against your family and against our nation and against our 250th birthday. And they're working together, the Communists, particularly the Chinese Communists. Not the Chinese people, the Islamists. I'm not talking about your neighbor. I'm talking about those who plot to overthrow America and implement Sharia law and a caliphate. the globalists who want to literally control everything. And then the traitors, the cowards and the fools here that are selling us out to the red, green, blue. And so we talk about that and, and they're writing and we've made it easy for them. And we will walk through trials by fire. How we respond in those trials by fire will determine whether we succeed or fail as a nation, or succeed or fail as a family. And it's practical stuff. It's like whether or not you have kids and demographics and buy a house or debt or what do you do on immigration? Do you show up at the school boards? We have practical solutions, things that you can do. But if you find, feel like our country is going away as we're supposed to be celebrating 250 years of liberty and independence and it's like, where's it all going? This book explains it. And if you want to learn more, that's where you go to piratemoneyradio.com and things like that.
Mike Carter: Yeah, Kevan, what I appreciate about you and the vision for economic War Room and what the team's working on here is we don't approach anything from a spirit of fear, but from real solutions and knowing that God has the ultimate plan. But we're involved with that. We don't just sit. It doesn't mean you sit back and say, oh, I'm just going to wait till somebody does something. This means we get proactive and understand the knowledge, understand what we need to be doing, what steps we can be taking to protect liberty, security and values. Joshua 1:9 says, Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid. Do not be discouraged. The Lord your God is with you wherever you go. I think as Christians as we take that to heart and we look at what's in this book, we know that we're here for such a time as this and it's an exciting part to be here to help spread the good news of what's really happening and to share what we have with liberty, security and those Christian values.
Kevin Freeman: You know, I shared it with one spiritual, leader and she came back and said, I want a prayer strategy. How do I pray through this? And so I wrote up a prayer strategy and sent it to her and it's going to be disseminated intercessors for America and others. And we'll make our prayer strategy available at some point to all our listeners. If you want to get a copy of it, write us at Pirate, afrtemoneyradio.com and if you email us we'll send you the prayer strategy. All right, look, I think we've had a good hour covering 400 pages.
Mike Carter: We got the very short version of it, but I don't want to miss the detail that's in this that is helpful, and everybody needs to get up to speed on it.
Kevin Freeman: Yeah. And we can make a difference. Individuals, you can make a difference, both in your family and in the country. You can be protected for this. All right, if you're on Real Life Network, stay faithful and stay free. But if you're following us on AFR or by podcast, stay tuned. We'll be right back.
Mike Carter: Welcome back to Pirate Money Radio with your host, Kevan Freeman.
Kevin Freeman: Yes. And for our American Family radio audience and the podcast crew, thank you for sailing with us today. I've got Mike Carter here with me. Mike, after all, we've covered all of the bad news and the challenges and what we. What the mistakes we've made over the last 50, 65 years. what gives you hope?
Mike Carter: I think what gives me hope is that Bible verse we shared in the earlier segment. Do not be afraid. Be strong and courageous. And the fact that I'm seeing God moving in so many ways, I'm seeing what we've been told is impossible to do happen, and that's over and over again. So I believe that God put each of us here, to participate, to make an impact, to further his kingdom. and so this is a really exciting time because when there's uncertainty, in the world, when things kind of get mixed up out there, people are saying, what's going on? What are the solutions? What do I need to be doing? We're going to see open hearts like, we've never seen before. And, Kevan, I think the book that you've put together here is one that's going to help people connect the dots, in ways that haven't been done before. But then say, okay, what does that mean for me? and what do I need to be doing? And God, what do you want me to do with this? Maybe it means you're going to call up a legislator and say, hey, this is important to me. Let's make sure we get sound money. Or let's make sure that, we're taking care of assimilation and our borders. those types of things are what God's called us to do. Yeah.
Kevin Freeman: I want to give you a really strong word here. I'm reading Jeremiah, I'm reading Ezekiel, I'm reading Daniel. And that's where the people of God were Displaced and sent to Babylon. And then they sought God and they were allowed to return. But Jeremiah has a passage there. If the nation that I've caused, you know, planned this disaster against relents, I will repent of the disaster. Here's the thing. We can stay in America now and have another 250 years if we make the right decisions now, if we honor God now, if we put our families and everyone else on God's path. This is not a time to be, oh, woe is me. Everything's going away, or just say, ah, it'll all be fine. This is a time to turn to God right now and not lose the country we're in. So let's pray. Father, thank you for this land and for 250 years of a people allowed to govern themselves under you. Give us eyes for the riders, courage to refuse the yellow horse, and wisdom to restore honest weights in our states and in our homes. God, comfort those who still mourn Charlie's death. Strengthen the remnant. Teach us to earn ethically, to save honestly, and to give generously. In Jesus name, Amen.
Mike Carter: Amen. Kevan, I'm so excited about this book. Every book you've put out, I've been excited about. But this is one that I think has real, real impact beyond what the others have done even. They've all kind of built upon each other. This feels like it's kind of the finale. I know it's not because you've got another good idea out there, but. But this is connecting all the dots, all the pieces, with solutions.
Kevin Freeman: It is an opportunity to give us 250 more years here in the United States for our children and our children's children. We've got a biblical responsibility. He's given us a stewardship opportunity in the greatest land, the greatest opportunity for liberty ever known to mankind. Nobody's ever had what we have. Let's not blow it. Let's make it work for all of us. Let's share the gospel. Let's share the good news. Let's share the liberty. All right. Thank you, Mike, for being with me. And, we. We're having a great time here. We'll be back next week, so until
Mike Carter: the next voyage, we'll be here.
Kevin Freeman: All right. God bless.
Four horsemen. Six trials by fire. One turning point that changed America’s financial future. Kevin Freeman and Mike Carter trace the consequences of abandoning gold in 1971—from $40 trillion in debt and a weakening dollar to China, programmable money, demographic decline, mass immigration, and the battle over America’s future. More importantly, they reveal what citizens and states can do now.
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