Unkown Speaker: Nearly a century ago, world leaders came together and did something radical. They formed an organization called the United Nations. Nobody knows the tremendous task that was undertaken by the mayor of the city of NewSong York in convincing the United nations to come to the city of NewSong York. It ushered in an age of multilateralism and a vow, however idealistic, to world peace. In your hands rests our future. By, your labors at this conference, we shall know if suffering humanity is to achieve a just and lasting peace. Our city represents the very ideal of the world the founders of the UN had in mind at its inception. The greatest cosmopolitan city in the world, where the representatives of every nation throughout the world can see at firsthand how people of various creeds and religions and colors can get along as1. The UN hasn't achieved world peace. It didn't end all wars. But its enduring existence represents our shared duty to work through humanity's biggest challenges together rather than for war. NewSong York City has proudly welcomed the world for the UN General Assembly. We're proud to continue that tradition this year.

Sandy Rios: All right, Sandy Rios with you. Wasn't that a great little spot? the UN, was founded in 1945, just after the war. And I think they thought that, if they could just talk, there could be peace in the world. And all the nations of the world were ready to talk. But, of course, the part they miss is that, you know, no talking can end war. it can help, but only, only the Lord Jesus is the one who will, you know, cause us to break our swords into plowshares and actually make peace. It's not. But there are so many human humanists at the un they actually do believe they can make the world better today, together. Ironically, that was, Zoran Mamdani voicing that spot. And I think about, he's a Muslim, and we're pretty sure he's an Islamist. And they don't really take too kindly to world peace and working with people of other languages and places. It's very ironic that he. He voice voiced that spot. Nevertheless, if he loses his job as mayor, maybe there's a, you know, future for him as an announcer. Anyway, this is Sandy Rios, 24 7, and today we're actually going to be talking about the un. I was in NewSong York City recently for a conference there with a number of Christian leaders, just talking about the problems we face in the UN and also as Christians, trying to think through, the various deeply moral issues that people have gone off the rail on. And the United nations of course, is filled with those kinds of people. So we were strategizing about how we might reach the world with these, with these biblical concepts in a way that they can hear it. So, we'll be talking about that today. I'll be talking with Jim Garlow, Dr. Jim Garlow, who was, my guest and also he was the host and founder of the meeting that we had. And so we'll tell you something about that. But then also we're going to get to something, that is fascinating to me and that is the question of where did all of this anti Semitism come from? I mean, we're seeing riots on college campuses. We're seeing Jews being, you know, hit in the back of the head on streets and in some cases murdered, shot down in, Washington D.C. on the streets. And then now we see churches turning against, Israel. They're not killing them, but they're rejecting them. They don't want the US to give them money. They accuse Israel of getting us into this war with Iran. they, many of them believe that the promises of God to Abraham don't apply to the Jews anymore, that we Christians are the new, the new Israel. We are the new Israelites. So all those promises are for us, not for the Jews. Well, I'll tell you up front and I'll repeat it at the end. If you feel that way, Please read Romans 9 through 11, 9, 10 and 11. Read the whole thing and then tell me if you believe that those promises are not gods to the Jews for eternity. So I promise you that's exactly what you're going to read in those passages. So, and to all of your, you know, replacement theology friends who are in Presbyterian main, mainline churches, also evangelical churches, Baptist churches, the whole notion of replacement theology has spread like a cancer from my perspective. and just, with, along with that comes, you know, an disinterest and a disdain for the book of Revelations and for the, you know, the end times, because the Jews play a central role in that. So it's very serious. It's a very serious problem. But the question today we're going to talk about with Jim is where did this come from? Where did this virile anti Semitism come from? I think you'll be surprised. It's certainly you'll be smarter once you hear him explain this. 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Donald Trump: I can report to you with pride that America is back and our country is stronger today than ever before. Our economy is the envy of the world. Our military is the most powerful on earth. Our technology is second to none, and we are leading in virtually everything. But I have a big decision to make. Will a deal be made with Iran that lets them rebuild and create a far greater country than it ever was before, Maybe one of the greatest in the Middle east or even the world? Or do I annihilate the Islamic republic and do it quickly, never giving them a chance to kill and destroy people and countries again? Do I drive them into hell with no chance of survival and no hope of future greatness or generations? But I believe we'll make a deal right after the election, because it doesn't make sense for them not to. They're waiting to see how I do in the midterm election. What they don't realize is that I'm not running.

Sandy Rios: All right, that's the President of the United States speaking at the UN General Conference, which just began a few days ago in NewSong York City. And, you know, he doesn't mince words. He. They always called him a liar when he was running, but he's the furthest thing from a liar. He tells the truth. He is a straight talker, which is like, really across to Dracula. In that environment and in the. In the European Union, too, they're not used to straight talk, but he gives them a straight talk. And ladies and gentlemen, everything he said was true. We don't have time to extrapolate all that, but he has accomplished all of that and a whole lot more. Well, the UN is in session. The UN, of course, was formed in 1945. And, I had a privilege just recently to. To go to the UN and go to a conference. it was the United nations summits, and they met in NewSong York City. And the reason I was there because of our next guest, who's a good friend of mine. Jim Garlo is just an amazing man who is responsible for so many things in this country, good things, and also all over the world, most of them you'll never hear about, because he and his wife Rosemary, are busy planting seeds and being salt and light and very unexpected places. But, Dr. Garlo is the one who put this conference, together. He's an author, historian, a pastor, the CEO of an organization called well Versed, which is bringing biblical principles of governance to government leaders. they meet with government leaders all over the continents. He's done approximately 1700 media interviews. He's the author of 27 books, and he has six earned academic degrees. So, Jim, that's all true about you and you, that that's not just on paper. That's the kind of guy you are, filled with knowledge. And. So thank you for joining me today.

JIm Garlow: Delight to be with you, Sandy. And we honor you as well.

Sandy Rios: You always do. You're very kind to me. And by the way, Jim was an endorser of my book, God's Velvet Hammer, so. But honestly, Jim, I really enjoyed this conference. And how would you describe the attendees to that conference? Just give people an idea of who were there, not necessarily names.

JIm Garlow: Well, intriguingly enough, you were the first person to sign up for it. You probably didn't know that. I don't know if I told you that or not, but we went with just about 100. Well, maybe more like 120 actually. Select, leaders. They were either elected officials or head of NGOs, non government organizations or head of not for profit organizations or, predominant faith leaders. We wanted people who could move the needle on the five areas. The five topics we were focused on for this conference. It was a small conference. It was intentionally small. It wasn't really. I keep calling it a conference. I should not. It was a strategic meeting to figure out how to address the key issues that we discussed.

Sandy Rios: Yes. And you know, one thing I really enjoy, Jim, apart from a lot of heady stuff that won't make good for good. For good radio, but, some of the guests you had just blew me away. I was so excited to actually see Arthur Paulowski. Paulowski. I told you that before with the conference even. And he, for those of you listening, Arthur was the, Canadian pastor who I talked about a lot. I played videos a lot. If you've been listening for a long time. He was the one who kicked the police out of his church. They came in on Palm Sunday, and you can hear him in this video say, get out of here, you Nazis. You're Nazis. You get out of my church. And of course that began a long series, of really difficulties for Arturo. And, he was there with his son and family. And, what was his role supposed to be, Jim? What was your idea in inviting him?

JIm Garlow: I wanted to model for others. How when you have to, when you go down the wire, you must stand encouraged, and you're going to pay a price. Many of those who are there have paid or are currently paying a price. I alluded to a few of them. I didn't tell all their stories, but I wanted to see if we could become Holy Spirit, emboldened to stand. Arthur, in his particular case is, I think he's been locked up in jail maybe a hundred times. He's had 300 citations. He's still in the legal, process. And all he did wrong was he preached the gospel and he fed the poor. He got in trouble, for those things, and he's not willing to compromise the gospel message. And in Canada, I've been tracking with quite A number of them pastors who've been arrested, one in particular we're following who's under house arrest. We followed Canada pretty close and I happened to have been. My wife and I were in the visitors gallery of the House of Commons March 25th of this year when the House of Commons tragically voted to rip away, strip away, religious liberty, making it illegal for pastors to preach from certain biblical texts. You can guess what they are, they have to do with anything, homosexuality or if you refer to trans or anything of that nature, even the abortion issue. We were there in the gallery when that vote took place. We met with a number of members of the House of Commons who are godly, who stood for biblical principles. Many of them, as they said, they stand one at a time to vote there as they stand one at a time to vote. They held, many of them held the Bible as a way of saying, you are coming against God. It was a sad vote in the end. And then it went to the Senate, which is appointed rather than elected. Many of them appointed for life. And we knew how that would go. And they went through a number of other more hearings. But then it is now law in Canada. So if you preach from Romans chapter one, if you preach about Sodom and Gomorrah, you, could be fined or arrested or both.

Sandy Rios: So Arturo was arrested many times. And there's a video of him being dragged through the streets by the police. And the thing of it is, he tells about how he was raised in Poland during the. He saw.

JIm Garlow: No.

Sandy Rios: was it Poland?

JIm Garlow: Yes, Bold.

Sandy Rios: And he was there during the communist years and he talked about the repression and he said he never dreamed when he moved to America that he would see the same thing here. And he's not going to stop fighting. He may very well lose his life because of his boldness. you know, before we get off this topic of Canada, Jim, I just did a show, this week on the maid program. That's the medically assisted, suicide actually, remember? Yeah. So what they did, they just killed, an 83 year old woman who was, had been diagnosed with cancer. And her daughter, the woman had said earlier she's a Christian believer in Christ. She said, I don't want to do that because that, that's against all of my, my faith and my beliefs. So she has a granddaughter that has, you know, been watching over her. And while the granddaughter was on vacation for two weeks, the maid team, whoever they are, the doctors came in and, and killed this woman. And it's it's causing a huge uproar here. The, the granddaughter described how horrible it was and the blood all over her. Her grandmother. It's just not, not. It's not like just take a pill and go to sleep. And so it, that's how awful and wicked Canada has become. I'm sorry, that was a long way of saying that. And I just wonder.

JIm Garlow: You're actually right. Even read, recently of a two year old who was euthanized. this is, this is going, this will. This has implications far beyond just the elderly, though that itself would be bad enough. But it has implications for anyone who's considered not useful in this life anymore by whomever is in charge and gets to make that decision.

Sandy Rios: Yeah. Yes. And the baby was disabled, much like my daughter was, Jim. So that story really, really, caught my eye. But anyway, it is an illustration of how the world is changing. And I can tell you, And I know you could say the same thing, Jim, if this election goes badly, I don't want to. This is political because it's moral. we're going to be seeing so much of this. We think things are bad now. It's going to be like the slide to Gomorrah. Like that the, the, the, famous, justice said. I can't think of his name but the lurch to Gomorrah, whatever it was. And it really will be. It'll be a slide to Gomorrah. we've already come a long way in a bad direction.

JIm Garlow: Was it Robert? Robert Bork? Was that who it was? Yes.

Sandy Rios: Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Yes. So okay with the conference then. were you pleased with it, Jim? And what was your favorite part?

JIm Garlow: Well, I was really glad that when we set the foundation, I wanted to set the foundation for people. We had Stefano Generini set the stage for exactly how does the United States function. And then Rebecca Oaz gave research from all over the nation. She's a, She's a brainiac. Give research from all over. All over the world. Msa. on where are we on the issue of abortion, marriage, these individual rights to liberties? Where are we on national sovereignty? Where are we on. And later we got. The next day we got into the anti Semitism issues. And so. And then the. What we went to next was why is Latin America succeeding so well? Why are they doing so well? And so we had 29 Spanish speakers come in, many of them, most of them elected officials, members of Congress or senators. And then we focused on the Latin American model. What Are they doing right? What can we learn from them? And then, of course, as you know, then we went to a short report from, many, many different nations at that point, to give people kind of a feel for where we are globally, in the various nations. And then we went really epicenter here. How do we lay the foundation? And that was through prayer, serious prayers. We went to the international gathering for prayer and repentance.

Sandy Rios: Yeah, you know, I want to. Just a little side note, we got. We were like the UN delegates. We had to wear headsets to hear each other, to understand each other. So it was just a little, interesting touch. And the Latin Americans were so fascinating. They really were. They had. Because things are going well there. And, you know, that gives me hope, Jim, for our country because. And just for the world. Because God isn't done. You know, I see him working here too. But when you see these countries really having these dramatic changes, it means that God's not, you know, it seems to me he's not giving up on the world yet if he's still doing that kind of work, even if it's not here in our country.

JIm Garlow: So the other thing is, I was just in Peru a week ago Sunday, speaking in the church of Guillermo Aguayo. And, his wife, who's also a pastor, Milegros Aguayo, now she is a senator. And, I felt like that was sort of the epicenter of our speakers was Senator Milagros Aguayo from Peru. She has 78 bills in the pipeline, and she's gotten 27 of them passed. And I wanted people to see how she's doing, what she's doing, even the ball. I'll give one example where if a baby is conceived, that baby has citizenship in Peru. Now, they're the only country I know of in the world, that I'm aware of that's doing it. There might be some others I'm not aware of, but. And so that establishes that. That personhood citizenship at the moment where they're aware of conception, that's only. And her senate is split 30. 30. 30, biblical and 30 anti. Biblical. But she still winsome enough. And I had her tell some of her stories of what she does to win the other side over, to get them passed. So wasn't that the chocolate working, functioning model for us?

Sandy Rios: Wasn't that chocolate part of that story?

JIm Garlow: Yes. She. First of all, she went in, she says, I don't know these people. They don't know me, and I'm just gonna make friends of all them. So she really blessed her enemies and turned them into friends. And then she knows how tired and sleepy they get in the long sessions. So she went in with chocolate. Every time somebody gets sleepy, she's here, you need some chocolate. This will wake you up. And they all took a liking to her. And they got to the point where this is from the pastor, let's just sign this. Anything from her must be good. She just wins and said, yeah, now there is a place for confrontational, argumentation. There's a place for that. There's, a place for what she's teaching us. And that's how to win over the enemy with the sweetness of life. And she is succeeding in doing that. And that's her. A real key to her success there in Peru. Ah, it looks small on a map because Brazil. So we were just in Brazil before that for five days before we came to Peru just last week. Week, four last. And so because Brazil is 47% of South America is enormous, but Peru is three times California, double Texas. It's almost as large as Alaska in land mass. So it's huge area. And so it's a very significant country. And so that's just one of the countries we're watching carefully because they're moving in the correct direction in so many ways, as are a number of countries

Sandy Rios: across Latin America, which, you know, gives me a flat. I'll just mention maybe 50 years ago, Latin America was an absolute turmoil with Marxist movements, revolutions. Central America, it was just a mess. And in the last few years they've had a lot of Marxists, like in Brazil, elected to office. And it's been real turmoil. And maybe, maybe Guatemala was the exception. I'm sure I'm not an expert on South America, but this, renewal, to conservative values and Christianity is really, really, really amazing. Jim. you did also take us on a prayer walk, and a walk around the UN and that was really fascinating. I had never been there before. so, and, and you've just written a book called Unitverse. Now your books, this is the theme of your books. Well versed. Obviously you're talking about scripture. And, you've written, I don't know, I guess five of them so far.

JIm Garlow: Or, in this, in this series, the verse series, I've only written well versed, reversed, and now Universe, UN United Nations Universed. And the subtitle of that one is Unexpected Bible Verses and Scriptural Values Found within the United Nations. so that's the third in the series of about 10 or 11 versed, books I'm working, all right now vigorously on a deadline, subversed how the anti Semites distorted Israel's story and how to refute them. So that's where I'm vigorously working, now. And then we have one inversed how LGBTQ chaos twisted and diverted scriptures from their original intent and then traversed how the gospel got from Israel all the way to you. Portions, of that are already done. So that. That's part of the verse series that I'm working on. Right.

Sandy Rios: You know, I just did, ah, a, part, a bit of a part of my show on James Talarico, the Texas candidate for Senate down there. And in. I had just learned that he was part of a Presbyterian church in Austin. He grew up there. The pastor married, his parents. He was baptized there. And what they have just done is create. I, can't think of the name they call it. It was like a. It's a woke word, that the something Bible wasn't politically correct, but the. Something like that. But they've rewritten all these verses. They've taken out the word Lord. They never mentioned that Jesus is the son of God. They, they've taken out all the verses on sexuality, and that's their Bible. And so that explains a lot about Talarico. And, And so this is what we're facing. We, have a rewritten Bible and people have lost, you know, the guide to life. They're really the center of truth. The guidelines from the Creator are being twisted by a church, by a pastor, and now by a candidate. So we can see where that comes from. Well, you mentioned the subversed, how the anti Semites distorted Israel's story. So that's. I really like to focus on that, because I heard you do a. At this conference you gave a delivery of the history of anti Semitism to. So before I let you just jump in there and I want to hear it again so I can. I need to write it all down. Bibi Netanyahu is actually on his way to the un I'm not sure if he's there today, but he's coming. And it's so bad that the mayor of NewSong York, Vanliere Damme, you know, was going to, order him to be arrested when he landed and in the UN itself that there's so much hatred, for Israel, so much hatred. And now, now it's even dangerous for them to walk on the streets of NewSong York. Delegates from the UN that are from Israel. So, you know, how did you surprised me, Jim, when you traced the history of antisemitism. You said things I'd never heard of in my life. We always talk about what, where did it come from? I think of Islam, you know, and the immigration of Islam. But where did this come from? Please tell us.

JIm Garlow: By the way, if I can give a commercial for that book universe, section three of it gives the history of the United nations and Israel. there's a real irony of the United nations when it was formed. Part of the reason God allowed it to form was to not so we wouldn't see a World War II again, but so we wouldn't see the Holocaust again. And they voted to affirm the establishment of modern day Israel. 33 yes, 13 no and 10 abstained. This was in 1947, November 29th. And that's what reestablished, well, God re established Israel. But from a human standpoint, that was the reestablishing of the nation of Israel. So the United nations, as corrupt as it is, was ironically used by God to reformulate this nation called Israel, the modern state of Israel. However, from that time on, as I track in my book, it has been anti Israel to the core, voting constantly. More than half of all the written negative resolutions per year condemning a nation. Though there's 193 member nations, more than half of them are against Israel, not against Northern Korea, North Korea or Iran or China or Russia and their abuses. And so I track that in section three of this book. The United nations and Sandy. If I can just say one more word, that's an encouragement to us that the subtitle of the book Unexpected Bible verses and Scriptural Values. You may, you may remember what I gave people was a virtual tour inside the United nations, though we are not allowed to go into that time because the General assembly, ah, that was just ready to take place. So we're not allowing anybody in. But there's all kinds of statues, there's stained glass, there's paintings, there's even wallpapers, scriptures announcing who God is, who the Messiah is. The fact that the Messiah will be the only one to bring peace, not the United Nations. And so in this book are colored photos of these statues, these various paintings, these murals, these wall hangings, even the wallpaper. Scripture. The whole section one of the book, outlines God is so pervasive in this place where they think they've locked him out, but they don't acknowledge God, they don't acknowledge Jesus, they don't acknowledge the Bible, they don't acknowledge our fundamental Christian values. Yet there are, all of these pervasive ways in which God has made himself known, even in that building. And then they have 30, what's called the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. 30 of them. So section two of our book is an analysis of to what extent are those biblical, to what extent are they not biblical? And the final section of the book is analysis. To what extent is the United nations not merely a collection of nations and as it claimed to be, but they've shifted, as we learned from Stefano Generini, our first speaker, to the last three to four to five years now calling for the term global governance, which is the spirit of Antichrist. And so that book is available@wellversed world.org well, verse world.org just came out. I saw it for the first time the night before. We gave it to all of you at that conference. So sorry for that long commercial.

Sandy Rios: I was going to ask you, so I'm glad you did it. Well verse world. What's the rest of that?

JIm Garlow: Well versed world.org and click on store. And then look for the book Universed, just like the universe, onto the D on the end universe in the subtitle. Unexpected Bible Verses and Scriptural Values Found within the United Nations. Do you have. I want to be sensitive to time. Do you have time for me to tell two of those statues that are in that building?

Sandy Rios: Yes, please. Yes, yes. Is that.

JIm Garlow: Well, as you walk into the United nations, you're entering from the north, you're facing south. To your left is east. That's the East River. There on the east river is a statue of a man pounding a sword into a plowshare built around Isaiah, chapter two. Now, the irony of that is it's a scriptural statue given by an officially atheistic nation. There are not a lot of nations that are officially atheistic, but the USSR was, and it was given by the ussr, officially atheistic, a statue based on a Bible verse. The irony, the Bible verse goes on to say that the reason we'll pound, our swords into plowshares and we'll study war no more is announcement of the coming Messianic era. In other words, when, as we believers, Christian believers, believe that Jesus is going to return, he will establish his kingdom and we will study war no more. So here it was saying, given a gift to the United nations, saying, United nations. You're not. Now, I'm not suggesting they intended to say this, but the message of the scripture is United Nations. You're not the bringer of peace. You've not been successful at that, nor will you ever. Only when the, Messiah comes will there be peace. Ironically, it was given in 1959, the peak of the Cold War. And so there's just so many ironies. God is so pervasive that an atheistic nation gave a scripturally founded statute with the scripture on it and gave it to the United nations, claiming to bring peace when they can't bring peace, when only Yeshua, the Messiah will bring peace someday. And then that's on the northeast corner. Go to the southeast corner of the building. There's the Isaiah wall. The exact same scripture. That means the United nations is parametered by scriptures as saying it cannot produce peace. Only when the Messiah comes will God be the one who actually brings peace to this broken world. That's the. There's a whole lot more, that they can see in the book. But that's two of the illustrations of even works of art that announce who God is.

Sandy Rios: You know, doesn't reminds you of the United States too. We're at the point where people don't know those things exist in our country either. You know, all the symbols of faith and scriptures and all of that. So m. Well, Jim, the whole issue about anti Semitism again. Bibi Netanyahu is getting ready to speak.

JIm Garlow: Yes.

Sandy Rios: At the UN and he was threatened with arrest. And the Jewish delegation feels, you know, scared to death to walk on the streets. We see what's happening in college campuses, we see what's happening in evangelical churches and so in mainline churches. So where I, I know recent history, but this started much further back. Can you tell us the origins of this?

JIm Garlow: It really did. I. My PhD is in historical theology. So a number of these people I'm going to mention have been heroes to me. I've spent my life studying them. But they have a flaw. Justin Martyr. Where to get his last name, from There were no last names. He was a martyr for the faith. Jon Chrysostom, who was the golden tongue orator or Augustine as early as 99 AD. Now that's during our NewSong Testament era. Ignatius of Antioch, told his followers it's absurd to profess Jesus Christ Messiah and then to Judah that ah, has practiced Jewish laws and customs. Now Jesus, he may have met salvifically. We don't practice him for our salvation. If so, then that was good. But the practicing of following the the feast of our Lord is a good thing. But this anti Semitism got built in early when the destruction of the temple took place. We're talking about destruction in 70 AD and then Jewish exile followed that and Roman persecution. They took the position. These earlier, early followers of Yeshua took the position. Well that's evidence that God has abandoned the Jewish people. Then they start teaching, well, the Jews are responsibility for the death of Jesus. They even invented a word, deicide, which means the killing of God. As if you can kill God. And the Greek and Roman Christians were accusing the Jewish people of exactly that, which is a exact defiance of scripture because Jon 10:18 makes it crystal clear. Jesus says, I laid down my own life. Nobody can take it from me. The Jews aren't guilty of Jesus death, nor were even the Roman soldiers. It's my sin, it's our sins for which Jesus died. That's why he laid down his own life. Nobody took it from him. But you add all those together and they start teaching immediately that the church, replaced Israel, the supersessionism is the term that's used and cover that. And then they start saying, well, the covenants are no more. And therefore Israel, is not Israel. It's Israel is now means the church today. Well they overlook the fact ignorantly. There are six covenants. two of them are conditional. Admittedly based on our responses before. The covenants in the scriptures are unconditional. They're not dependent upon anything people say. the covenant with Adam was conditional. The covenant with Abraham with Moses was conditional based upon responses. But Noah's covenant was not. But nor was the Abrahamic covenant, nor was David's covenant. Nor is the new covenant. The Abrahamic covenant is the promise of God to his descendants of land. And it'll be a blessing to all the nations. And that is unconditional. It's not based upon Israel can do. Israel can't send their way out of that. And it couldn't. Mosaic, Moses covenant, but not with the Abrahamic covenant. And then the Abrahamic covenant flows right to David covenant which flows right to the new covenant. So people who say, well the covenant is no more. Well which covenant? It makes a difference when you're talking about. The tragic is by the 4th century, by the 300s, anti Jewish teachings were starting to really spread. Constantine seized on that one. Though the followers of Jesus had followed the Passover. There was no Christmas, there was no Easter. They followed not the Jewish feast, they followed the feast of our Lord. We call it Jewish feast to be dismissive. but actually Jesus followed them. If he followed them, wouldn't it Be good enough for us. And, and so by the, by the 400, by the three hundreds, Constantine is saying no more. So he called the council in 3:25. Now here's where it gets messy. The Council of Nicaea did many good things, I affirm many things that they sorted through. But tragically it had this one fatal flaw. No Jewish leadership, mind you, all the early followers of Jesus, were the earliest followers were Jews. And all the writers of scriptures were Jews except for Luke. And yet they allowed no Jewish leadership to present the Council of Nicaea. Passover, was replaced with Israel. They were ordered to quit following quote the customs of the Jews. Well these feasts of the Lord are a chronology, we believe, actually outlining a chronology of our Lord, the Messiah of Yeshua. the Christian church they declared was not dependent upon the Jews that would like be saying, I like my house, so I'm going to rip the entire foundation out from my house. Well that wouldn't go with. Go, go with. And then, then Council of Antioch was 345 Christians were banned from celebrating the Passover, the Seder meal, the ritual meal. And they're with their Jewish friends or neighbors. They'd never been banned from that before. Then the Council of Laodicea, now we're up to 364. They outlawed the biblical Sabbath day, Shabbat, Then Justinian, the emperor, now we're up to the five hundreds. many of the remaining laws that were protecting Jewish religious civil rights they were abolished and more restrictions were put on the Jews. And by the time we get the emperor Theodius, he made a Christianity, official established religion of the entire empire, which sounds good in and of itself. But now he started allowing anti Semitic acts and violence of church leaders. And Justin Martyr's statement was, well, we know that we're now the true Israel to naturally evolve, but we the Christians of the true Israel. So the Jews are no longer the chosen people. And so now we have the phenomenon of replacement theology. And what did that do that brought upon the Jewish people? Extreme social, economic, political and severe physical persecution for almost 2,000 years in the hands of religious leaders who believed that God hates the Jewish people. They claim that there was no chosenness any longer of the Jewish people. But there was a problem to that and that is that God promised a full return of the nation. Zechariah, Ezekiel, Matthew, Romans. God promised that the Jews would return and would have their own nation. Even Paul warned, don't be arrogant. Romans 11:18, don't you be arrogant, you're just branches. Don't be arrogant against the root. But that's precisely what was violated. And they even went so far as to say, well, Jesus himself was an anti Semite. I mean this is gets, it gets, it gets bizarre. And unfortunately Sandy, this is where it gets painful. The portrayal of Jesus Yeshua, by Christians to the Jewish people was so repugnant that that's why Jews, they have long memories in east, short memories. We don't know what we did two weeks ago. But in the east they have long memories. They know what happened several thousand years ago. And so the notion of Jesus became a repugnant idea to the Jewish people. They started, and this was interesting, in Spain they forced conversions. They forced them, conversio it was called. They forced him to convert. And then years later they accused him of being fake conversions because the previous generation had been forced to. And so they started persecuting them for having converted. I read Mike Evans book, Jew Hatred in the Church. But I got the chapter on the Inquisition and the actual physical torture technique so called Christians used on the Jewish people. It was so repulsive, it was so violent, it was so vulgar. I never finished the chapter and I never finished the book. It was so hard to take. Then you add to that the myths of blood libel during the Middle Ages, that the Jews were accused of all kinds of things they couldn't even have thought of. they're accused of it to this day, falsely accused of it in Gaza. Then you add the Crusades. Now the Crusades are another mixed bag. There's, there's one sense in which the Crusaders were standing against the Muslims that were coming in like an army and destroying everything. And so in that sense you can defeat, you can defend. But they also, they raped and pillaged as many of them as they went across Europe. And then their treatment of the Jews was unbelievable. I give one example. July 15, 1099, the Crusaders marched into Jerusalem. They put a thousand, over a thousand Jews, men, women and children and babies into a synagogue, set it on fire and marched around it while singing Christ, Christ we adore thee. Now we don't know these stories, but let me tell you, the Jewish people remember these stories. Then the Council of Lateran is later in the fourth. However, the 1200s, it mandated segregation of Christians and Jews. By this time now, they're expelling them. 1290, they're expelled out of England. 1306 they're expelled out of France. 1492 they're expelled out of, out of Spain, then the Inquisitions. The torture ramps up. Then we come to the 1500s with one of my heroes, but, boy, was he flawed. One of my heroes in church history, where I focused a lot of my studies was on Martin Luther. I take people on tours. first time I toured, it was actually still in East Germany, still under communist control in the 1970s. I take people on tours of the Germany sites of Luther. And he did so much good for the gospel. But unfortunately he lost patience with the Jews when they wouldn't accept Jesus. So he wrote an attack on them, called on, the Jews and their lies, in which he justified burning down their synagogues and their homes and their businesses. So Luther, tragically, in spite of some good he did, did some horrible things. Inexcusable. He's the religious root of anti Semitism. Along comes Hitler, who quotes Luther in Mein Kampf. And he's the racial root of antisemitism, Arianism. And then along comes our contemporaries Tucker Carlsen and Candace Owens, who are the conspiratorial roots of antisemitism. Now, some good news is the Second Vatican Council in 1960 spoke Jon XXIII, did reverse some of the damage and improved relations a great deal. And Pope Jon XXIII was a breath of fresh air, in the Catholic Church, without a doubt in this area as well. But the issue of the land, accusing the Jews of occupying the land, they don't occupy it, they own it. Or I should say God owns it. And he said it's theirs. But how do people establish land ownership? Well, it's aboriginal. That means origin. There's no technical indigenous peoples left. in other words, the Canaanites aren't there and the Philistines don't exist. all these ites, Perizzites, they don't exist anymore. So technically the oldest people group would be the Jews themselves. And one could even argue if you go back further from the descendants of, Noah, from one of his sons is Eber, from which the word Eber Hebrew comes. His descendants ended up in what is today modern day Israel. And then they were driven out by the other descendants of, Noah. and so there's a sense in which when Abram came back to the promised land, he was actually returning to the land of his ancestors. So one could argue that the Jews are the actual original occupants. So they weren't called Jews until we have the country of Judea, because their Jew comes from Judea, so that name crops up later. But in terms of this kind of an ethnic group. The second way is by purchase. In the 1880s and early 1900s, particularly in 1800, late 1800s, the Jews started coming back in large numbers and they start buying from the Arabs the land legitimately. And the reason the Arabs were happy to sell it because it was swamp land, there were mosquitoes and you die of malaria. And many of them did, but they learned to plant eucalyptus trees and drain and they still this day of big trenches with eucalyptus trees draining away the water and thus the mosquitoes destroyed. and so they purchased land. A third way is war. When you went, Israel was attacked repeatedly. And, when they were one day old, they were attacked by five other nations. In 67 they were attacked or going to be attacked. A preemptive strike they had to do to survive. And in war, land changes hands and legitimately so. And that's just the way it's always been. And then also there's the phenomenon of, spillover. By that, I mean when people overwhelmed like we had on our southern border at one time, the bottom line is God promised to Israel the land from the Euphrates to the Nile. Now that's about 300,000 square miles. David, when he was king, only occupied, was able to get control of, 200,000 square miles, two thirds of that. How much does Israel have today? They were promised 300,000 square miles. David got 200,000 square miles. Israel today has 8,000 square miles. They are a tiny piece. And when they accused, like the Tucker Carlsen's world accusing them, the Jews are ruling the world. They're controlling everything really. For 2, 700 years they've been controlled by air bails, The Assyrians, Assyrians control them. The Babylonians drove them out and control them. The Persians, after that they had a little bit of liberty. The Maccabean rule for a short time. Then the Greeks controlled them. Then the Romans controlled them. Now we're up to the time of Jesus. Then the Byzantines controlled them. Then the Muslims controlled a various Muslim group, the Rashidin, the Umayyad, Ab, the Seljuk Turks. Then the Crusaders came in and controlled them. Then the Ayyubids came in. Then the Mamluk warriors, they were Muslims from Egypt. Then the Ottoman Turks controlled them from 1517 to 1917 for 400 years. And then the British controlled it from 1970 to 1948, the British mandate. They only got their freedom in 1948 after being controlled for 2,700 years. And they were promised land. This is where they were. So Israel's been so mistreated they were promised land by the Balfour Declaration, 1917, by the San Remo Agreements in 1920. That was in Italy. A number of countries came together in 1919 in the league of Nations. That's a precursor of the United Nations. And then they turned around and ripped away 72%, of the land given them, was promised to them and called it Jordan. They created Jordan about the time I was born and took it away in Israel. The Jewish people said, okay, we'll take. Well take anything. And in the 1800s, early 1900s, Zionism began to develop. And what is Zionism? It means the Jews have a right to exist. Now, who would deny that they have a right to have their own land? Who can exist if they don't have a place to be? They have a right to gather in that land. What good is the land if they can't gather there? And they have the right to defend themselves. That's all a Zionist is. And yet it's so controversial. I'm an unabashed Christian Zionist because I believe the Jews have a right to exist, a right to have a land, a right to gather in, a right to defend themselves. Now, I didn't mean to go into this long. I could say a lot more, but I've taken you through probably maybe a whole lot more than you wanted to give us understanding. There's a whole lot more criticisms I could deal with. But let me stop there and see if you want to pose some questions. What we've covered so far.

Sandy Rios: Well, m. Moving backwards. I. I want to remind people that Tucker, speaking of current day, said that the people group he hated the most were Christian Zionists. That's what he said. He said that about probably six months ago. Christian Zionist. That's Christian Zionists. That's who Tucker hates. I guess a couple of things come to my mind, Jim. I. My Jewish friends, people I've known through the years, have always. I've had this impression, I've heard these things about how badly they were treated by Gentiles through the years, but I had no idea. I had no idea. No idea. And, that's why, I mean, we contributed, meaning believers at large, to their hatred, of Jesus and resistance. You know, I mean, we really have done that, but I think. Would you not agree that we've. Do you believe, as I kind of do, that they've moved past that? The hatred has kind of been, They see things differently now because Christians now, like you and I, feel differently about them.

JIm Garlow: Oh, absolutely. Mike Evans has friends at Zion Museum, which gives the history of people going, back in the 1800s and Christians who were willing to stand with them. the good news, there have been Christians who've resisted this throughout history. I'll thank followers of Yeshua who resisted this anti Semitism. And by the way, I probably ought to clarify, I shouldn't use the word anti Semitism, but I use it because that's the popular word. Semite refers to people who speak not only Hebrew, but Aramaic, Arabic, there's quite a few languages that are Semite language and Semite people. so anti Semitism would refer to way more than just the Jews. But unfortunately, course is. It's. It's a misnomer. It's actually. It's. It's Jew hatred. It's hatred of the Jewish people. So it's more defined than just anti Semitism. But I'm using it because that's the popular understanding of the word. Yes, the good news. And it's changed dramatically in the last 25 years. Dramatically. And many people across Israel, many people, not all. Many people across Israel know that their best friends are Christian evangelicals. And Netanyahu says that constantly, publicly. He's fully aware. Aware of that. Now. My wife's been to Israel 80 times, Rosemary. I've been 29 times. and my wife insists on us going right through every war, right through intifadas. We never stop going. If the airlines don't get us there, we go, war or no war. Makes no difference because you're safer there than you are in an American city. People don't realize that. So we've gone through all the wars consistently. And when you go during a war, you're the only bus around. We're the only ones there that's outside the country touring the countries as pilgrims. So that means you're thrown into hotels with all Jewish people because they're all displaced. 80,000 of them moved out of the north to avoid the attacks from the north coming out of Lebanon. And so you're in the hotels with all these Jewish people. So I'm an extrovert. I talk to everybody. I get to go into everybody. If I'm on an elevator and I go on two floors, I'll get according to know their life history by the time we get to their floor. So I ask them questions, I talk to them, and I tell everyone in my can, I, want you to know this. There are tens of millions, tens of millions of Christian evangelicals across America and hundreds of millions across the world who Stand with you as Christians 100%. And they. Almost. About 60% of them, I'd say begin, begin. Tears come to their eyes. About. About 5 to 10% say, I don't believe that. I said, yes. And I've had people walk away, say, I don't believe you, and they walk away. And I went after. I said, no. Now, listen to me, Listen to me. I know the world in a way you don't. There are Christian evangelicals by the tens of millions, hundreds of millions globally that love the Jewish people and will stand with you. They say there are. And so I've told this over and over, and about 30% of them have never heard that before that I talked to. That's why we need to let them know how we stand with them.

Sandy Rios: you know, Jim, the first time I went to Israel was in the 90s. And I found a real hostility. I did not from everybody. I mean, had guides and lovely people, but you could just tell they were so untrustworthy. And they, you know, they didn't allow evangelism. Evangelism, evangelizing at that time, I don't think. But, boy, even in my lifetime, I've seen that thing change. And I, I think that's amazing. I also want to say, when I was growing up, I grew up. I was, raised in a Southern Baptist church. And of course we were all about the. The land of Israel. We. There just wasn't any doubt that they were God's chosen people. The prophecies and all of it. I never ever heard about replacement theology until, maybe, maybe 10 years ago. I didn't know doctrine of the Presbyterians at that time, but it seems like it's just now it's in Southern Baptist churches. It's spreading like poison. this whole doctrine of replacement theology with the Jews, meaning that the Christian church, Christ followers, the church, the universal church, is the true Israel now. And Israel, as you mentioned in the early years, the early centuries, it's the same thing. It's the same thing that they. The promises don't apply to them, so shun them and they kill Jesus. Well, we don't get to that part in our culture. But goodness, Jim, what caused this current, upsurge of this thought about replacement theology?

JIm Garlow: Well, and they get more sophisticated. They are abandoning the word replacement theology in some circles and using fulfillment theology. You say, oh, Christ fulfilled. So Israel is not Israel anymore. And it's another way of being anti Semitic, but sounding more religious when you do it. first of all, they're defying the very scripture that Paul warned about not being arrogant that I referred to earlier. My answer is very simple. How do you account for the phenomenon? Is it because, do they hate Jews because they have so much land? No, they have 1/3 of 1%, of the Middle East. Is it because there's so many? No, there's like 2 billion Muslims or so, and they're or 1.6 billion, I guess, Muslims. And there's only 15 million Jews that we know of in the world. So it's a tiny, tiny people group. How, do you account for it? I contend that this is stirred, that the core of this is stirred by Satan himself for one reason. He detests the Jews. Because why? The Jews gave us the Torah, they gave us the teaching, they gave us the prophets, they gave us the Psalms, they gave us the prophets, they gave us the Messiah, they gave us the teaching of the Messiah, they gave us the teaching of the Messiah's return. The Jews gave us all of that. And enmity with God was established in Genesis 3:15. And that is why it's being stirred. And otherwise naive, otherwise, smart Christians who are naive in this area are being used by the enemies in way they do not know and are falling into the trap of hatreds of this tiny people group. Because this people, this tiny people group is the one that God chose. We don't know why he chose to choose, but he did. And so we acknowledge that's God's business who He m Wants to choose. We know why he didn't choose the others because of how evil they were, but he didn't choose the Jews because they were so pure. He chose the Jews for some reason, but that's who he chose. So we acknowledge that that's the one through whom he poured himself, including his own son. And perhaps and it was through them he came. So we owe them so much. And it's the enemy using stirring up this anti Semitism is stirred because the Jews remind us there's a God. If there is a God, that means I'm not God. If there is a God, there's a moral standard. If there's a moral standard, that means I'm supposed to follow it. And human flesh does not like being told something from somebody else's authority above them. And even otherwise good, quasi good evangelicals are being used by the evil one tragically to stir up hatred of this one people group when they would claim you shouldn't be hateful of anybody. They even go so far as say, well, I'M not into Israel. I'm just anti Zionism. Really. Where are they going to land? What land are they going to have? It'd be like saying, I don't mind you, but you just can't have a place to live. How illogical is that? So I contend that we look at the racial roots, we look at the theological roots of antisemitism, we look at the conspiratorial roots. But in the epicenter of the spiritual roots is Satan himself doing what he has always done. I,

Sandy Rios: Absolutely, absolutely. It's a, it's a blindness. And I know all of my, my Reformed friends listening will be offended by that, but it is a blindness. And they become very evangelical about it and very smug. And I just always tell people, Jim, I'm sure you do, to read Romans 9 through 11. Read Romans 9 through 11 and you tell me, I don't know if you know, but I worked three days for the, International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. I only worked three days for them because, because they didn't want to pray. They wouldn't let me pray in the name of Jesus. because they really presented. I know they advertise all the time and a lot of good people advertise for them. And I'm just telling you, they are not what they seem to be. They will not, not allow Christians in their organization to pray in Jesus name in the office, their tours. They don't, they can't mention Jesus name. and I, I was sitting in on an interview where they tried to persuade a NewSong York, NewSong Yorker, editor or writer that Christians did not really want to, have Jews come to Christ. That wasn't really in their interest. And I just couldn't hold my peace. And that's why I got fired actually, and now went. The next day, before I got fired, the vice president asked me. He said, don't you think that Jews. There's another way for Jews, isn't there? Don't you believe there's another way for Jews to find. Find, come to God except through Jesus? And I said, I just told him he was a Christian, maybe even a pastor. And I said, have you not read Romans 9, 10 and 11? Have you not read that? So I just say that in the spirit of, we have to sort this out and we have to get into the Word. And by the way, that brings me back to Jim's, Jim's book. It's called Universe Uni Verse. U n, I versed universe. And it's unexpected Bible verses and scriptural values found within the United States. United, nations, which of course is so anti Semitic. And I think you'll find it fascinating. You just go to wellverseworld.org wellversed world.org and you can purchase this book. Any, any final thoughts, Jim?

JIm Garlow: No, I just thank you for your standing. and I just appreciate your support of us. Our event in at the United Nations. You, as I indicated already, you were the first to sign up and you're always a cheerleader for what Rosemary and I are attempting to do. And we just have deep appreciation, admiration and respect for, for you. I endorsed your book, because I'm an endorser of your life and how you have stood. And you're bold. You, you and I are on some zoom calls together. We, we interact and, and I watch you in, operation. And I praise God for your life. You didn't ask for, for that compliment, but I'm very happy to give it because we have such respect and admiration for you. Wow.

Sandy Rios: Thank you, Jim. I just, That's very kind of you. And you know, I do love you back. You and Rosemary both, you've been such a blessing to me and thank you for inviting me to this conference. That was very enriching and we really, really benefited from it. So thank you. All right, Jim Garlo, Sandy, one more

JIm Garlow: thing I will be putting online. we didn't announce the conference before for safety and security reasons, but I will put the speeches online@wellversed world.org and I encourage people to hear all the speeches that you got to hear last week.

Sandy Rios: Okay. All right. Okay. That's great. And I'll try to remember to say that again on a different day when we're not recording. But, Dr. Jim Garlow, thank you so much. God bless you and Rosemary and we'll talk to you soon.

JIm Garlow: Thank you so much and blessing being with you.

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Speaker D: Beginning with the UN General Assembly. When President Trump spoke there last year, he accused the UN of using empty words that don't solve wars. Well, this year he's seeking resolution to the war with Iran with some hopes for diplomatic progress with Iranian leaders at the assembly too. We must reject President Trump in NewSong York for the United Nations General Assembly. Facing a full agenda of international issues and domestic controversy. Nearly seven months into the war with Iran, the president signaling he may meet with Iran's president on the assembly sidelines while promising to keep up the economic pressure.

Donald Trump: They're not going to have a nuclear weapon, let me just put it that way. And they're not doing well that as

Speaker D: US Military leaders are divided over whether President Trump should intervene in the escalating conflict between Saudi Arabia and Iranian backed Houthi rebels in Yemen. That's according to two U.S. officials who also said the president had ordered strikes on Sunday but called them off. He is scheduled to meet today with Ukraine's President Zelensky and Acting President of Venezuela, Delsey Rodriguez.

Sandy Rios: All right, that's a report from NBC News. And that's what's happening, surrounding the NewSong York. And that was surrounding the UN In NewSong York. they're really in the middle of meeting. And so President Trump made an incredible speech to them in the opening, his opening remarks. And so, there's a lot happening in this world and I want to end the show with a slightly different thing and that is to, suggest and actually implore you, to look to other networks for your news. Right now, there's kind of a war going on with President Trump and the news agencies and he has kicked out Politico and CNN and, MSN Ms. Now. And, Fox is joining now, boycotting. And I've already. I did a whole show for you on what's really happening at Fox Around M, the firing of Maria Bartiroma. And, you will not hear everything from Fox. They will cherry pick because they're not friends of this president. And I would argue they are more friendly to China than they are to us. And I'm talking about the leadership, not the people that you see on the air. But it affects, affects how they report. They leave things out. You don't hardly know anything about election malfeasance if you listen to Fox, but you'll know a lot about the Iranian war. So I look to them for that information. But right now with the, the midterms hurtling ahead of us, I, this is what I recommend. Go to Newsmax. Newsmax. Go to Real America's Voice, Real America's Voice or, and go to One America News, One America News. Now, things on those channels, although newsmakers, probably the slickest, are not as slick as you're going to see on the other networks. They don't have the facilities and, but they have great reporting and they will tell you the truth. And that's so important right now because we're being lied to about so many things about the Iran war. We're being lied to about, the economy. President Trump, I'm just telling you from my perspective, has done marvelous things, things that you won't hear about. I just heard in a meeting this morning what he's done to stop, to. I can't. It's too hard to explain. Let's just say put the brakes on these H1B visas, which means all of these, foreigners are coming in. Non Americans are citizens, not citizens are coming in with these H, ah, 1B visas, taking American jobs. And that's been happening for a long time. And there have been a change of the rules. That's what he sent out just I believe today, by executive order, that's going to put the brakes on a lot of what's happening there now. if you. When I was in Chicago, I got calls from people all the time, Motorola, other places that they were having to train foreign workers to do their jobs. Well, it's been going on that long. And so something, has to be done about it. And now President Trump is doing something about it. But you probably won't hear that today. He is doing enormous things and there are things, you can criticize him all you want about his vanity and the things that he wants to name by, you know, after his name, but that's. I've never met or heard of or an interactive interacted with a billionaire who was not quirky. They're just quirky. They live in their own world. They. But I've never seen one as grounded as President Trump. And as much as he is independent, he doesn't know, care. He doesn't need to know what you think, he doesn't need to, to do what anybody wants him to do. And yet he consistently does the right thing. He has incredible, instincts and he most definitely loves this country. And with this election coming up, that's gonna all be gone. it's not about President Trump. It's about our country. If you think gasoline prices are high now, you just wait till the Marxist left is in charge. And they are so close to being in charge, they won't care what you have to pay for gas. They'll probably eliminate, gasoline at all. it's, they want to make, everyone live in cities. This is what they did under the Biden administration. We don't have to be Houdini to figure this out. They want to add, puerto Rico and D.C. they want to make them states, which means, you know, conservatives will never win again. they, they want to do away with the filibuster in the Senate, which is a strange word I know, but I think you have a gist of it. It requires 60 votes to vote on a bill and it is a, ah, shield for conservatives and for liberals, I guess, to be able to stop something even if they're not the majority in that particular body in the Senate. So they're going to do away with that. They've already said that. Which means they will come in and railroad every single wicked thing they want to pass, like abortion for all nine months, like all kinds of things. you're, you're, you. They don't want you to drive fossil fuels. They want you in electric cars or bicycles. your life, your savings, the economy will crash. remember how expensive gasoline was under Joe Biden? And inflation just ballooned out of control because he was giving away our money. He depleted our oil reserves. If it hadn't been for President Trump who's finally filling them back up again, we would have had no backstop for an emergency. And if we conservatives lose power in this coming election, we have so many enemies around the world, so many people that resent our strength right now. That we will be. Revenge will be exacted. I'm just begging you. The wheels will come off the bus and one of the big problems is that believers in Christ don't vote. They don't vote or they think it's too icky. You know, they don't like what's happening or they don't like gas prices or whatever. So they're not. They're going to. They're going to show us they're not going to vote. But what they're going to do is usher in these leftist wicked people who hate this country and want it destroyed. If you don't vote, that's what you're doing. So I beg you, I beg you, really I do. To register to vote. Talk to your friends. Get them to register to vote. Pastors have voter registration in your lobby. It does not. It's not partisan. Just have it, have it there on Sundays after the services and let people register to vote. Encourage them to vote. You don't have to tell them how to vote. You can talk about the issues. You could talk about moral issues, but you can do that without telling them who to vote for. So please be responsible. You will look back on this election if it goes the wrong way, meaning the conservatives don't win. And you will be so sorry. You will forever be sorry that you didn't take part and do Your responsibility as a Christian to be a good steward of the things God's given you and of your citizenship. Okay, that's the end of my lecture. But everything I just said is just 100 true. And I hope you'll listen to me. Just listen to common sense and just. That's it. That's it. I've said enough. And thank you. Listen, I do appreciate you listening today. I thought. I love talking to Jim. He has so much knowledge and I hope you enjoyed listening. Preborn is our sponsor and I'm proud to say that. And as a matter of fact, if you're a business owner, would you consider a larger donation to claim a write off a donation of a thousand dollars, 2, 10, even 15 will sponsor an ultrasound machine for a needy clinic. Helping to save countless things. Babies lives for years to come. All gifts are tax deductible and will reach eternity. They really will reach eternity. Get involved today. Go to preborn.com sandy that's preborn.com sandy well, thank you for listening to today's edition of Sandy Rios 24 7. Sam.