The American Family Association offers a Christian response to the issues of the day

>> Tim Wildmon: The American Family Association's mission is to inform, equip, and activate individuals to strengthen the moral foundations of our culture. We also support the church. Our goal is to be a leading organization in biblical worldview training or cultural transformation. AFA believes that all men and women, whether in private or public, should be free to exercise their faith without hindrance from the government.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Thank you for standing with the American Family Association. Welcome to Today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day.

>> Tim Wildmon: here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president

>> Ed Vitagliano: of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR. Today's Tuesday, June 23, 2026. Tim Wildmon here with Ed Battagliano. Good morning, Brother Ed.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Good morning, Tim.

>> Tim Wildmon: And Wesley Wildmon. Good morning, Wesley.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: And Krish Woodbridge here. All three of you guys. I like your spirit, Krish.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, he's ready to go out of that stack. He's got one good, uplifting, story. He's fired up about it.

>> Tim Wildmon: He's fired up about it. We're gonna get to it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm sorry. It sounds like he needs to be on medication.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Not necessarily fire. Okay.

>> Chris Woodward: I use, you know, I do what I can.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah. So, listen, the medications you take, Krish, are personal. I wouldn't, You don't feel.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I, shouldn't be asking.

>> Tim Wildmon: You shouldn't be divulging to the world. Krish is on medication. yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: People.

>> Wesley Wildmon: People don't got to be a legal thing there.

>> Chris Woodward: Once, Once the show ends, every day at 11, I go upstairs and talk to HR

>> Ed Vitagliano: about. About, harassment. All our today's issues.

>> Chris Woodward: It's harassment,

>> Tim Wildmon: Harris. I don't know. I've always heard harassment. Is it harassment?

>> Chris Woodward: Some people do pronounce it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's Harrisman if you're highfalutin.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I knew a Harris, meant in high school.

>> Chris Woodward: That's what,

>> Tim Wildmon: He was a pretty friendly guy.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That played a flute. Is that what you said? A flute?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Highfalutin. There you go. I like it. Highfalutin.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, once again, it's up to me to get us back on track.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, that's right.

>> Chris Woodward: You do.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You do your thing.

>> Tim Wildmon: I do. That's why I'm here.

Tim Walker: Spammers and scammers are getting so good at everything

all right, so a lot to talk about today. Dr. Frank Tarek will be with us in just a few minutes here on the program. in the meantime, I've got a job offer came in via text.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Amazon.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm going to look at it. So I don't know. You know, we were at.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Folks, if you're wondering where that came from. As Tim tries to get us back on track. We were talking before the show about how good spam texts are getting.

>> Tim Wildmon: Spammers and scammers.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Spammers and scammers are getting so good because you said, Tim, you got a job offer.

>> Tim Wildmon: I got. I mean, it's your candidate. It says it's. That's how it starts out.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Dear candidate, I have gotten to the place where I am barely accepting friend requests on Facebook. I am barely. I don't listen if I don't recognize the number on my phone at work or on my cell phone. I don't answer it and I don't click on emails. I'm getting to the place where I'm just going, I don't want to. There are human beings that I know. I'll talk to those people. Everyone else, you're out of luck because the, the scammers.

>> Tim Wildmon: Would you say scammers and scammers.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Scammers and scammers are getting so good at everything. And I'm just.

>> Wesley Wildmon: They're using.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm an old man who's getting confused.

>> Tim Wildmon: They are using AI, aren't they?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yep. That's. So I'm trying to find the one that I, I've been getting. So I've been getting.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Walker, you said Tim. Well, you're looking for that Walker. You, you said Walker got an email from himself. Yeah, from his own account.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's called email spoofing. Yeah, it is. You know, we joke about it, but it's get getting exhausting for people. I was reading how many text and phone calls and emails people get. Their tricks, I call them, you know, trying to trick people into doing something.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: to lose money to get to your bank account.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: To trick you. And it's just like you're saying. It's almost to the point where a lot of people are saying, I just went off. Yeah, I went out, I want out. I don't want to have to see is this real or not anymore.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: What'd you say, Wesley?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Mine's. Mine is going to be to take too long to explain but basically I was getting into details but I was getting emails from a coworker regarding work and within a couple of days I began to getting. I began getting emails on a similar topic. But it was all recreated and it look. And it had a lot of information based on mine and a, co workers working email.

>> Chris Woodward: Wow.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yep. And, and, and it had my name in there, but that's how I caught it. It was talking to me. Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: AI has changed. Made life a lot easier for the spammers and scammers. Oh yeah, because we get, we've gotten a few. Not many. We gotten fake invoices. People. I hear from people, same thing at their businesses. Fake invoices. And.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, and what's going to be weird is that eventually everyone's going to have to use AI to combat AI. I mean, you're going to have to. Because the human eye is not going to be able to tell what's fake anymore. I don't know how many times I've seen videos about Bigfoot.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And. And you just go, I know that can't be real or it would have been all over the news, but that looks totally real.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

Question 3: How many fake phone calls do you get a week

>> Ed Vitagliano: Now the six fingers.

>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, how many fake phone call. How many spam calls do you get? let's say in a week.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know, one or two. Question 3 Phone calls.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't, I don't answer me. I'm like you. I don't answer them.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't get, I don't get as many phone calls. I get texts and emails.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't get as many phone calls. I guess I should be happy about that.

>> Chris Woodward: You know my, several years ago when we got my oldest daughter, a cell phone, literally the weekend that she turned it on, she started getting spam phone calls. It's like they have their tentacles out there. And anytime a phone is activated, the robot, hey, call this number. And she, to this day she gets multiple spam calls a day on her cell phone.

>> Tim Wildmon: I think. Go ahead.

>> Wesley Wildmon: The way you were tagged in this email. But it was your old email. That's why.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Okay. So they.

>> Wesley Wildmon: You ready for this one? Yeah. Tim and Wesley.

>> Tim Wildmon: This is from, some scammer.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. Just one of many. Unfortunately, our culture has created fear around making obvious assumptions about human genetics. But I will go on lim and assumed and making a father and a son introduction that are this. You can see none of this is not making any sense. That or Ms. Tupelo, Ms. cap a lowercase S has an abundance of unrelated Wildmans. I will also assume that Hottie Toddy is unwelcome. They're using AI to find out information about us while typing up the email.

>> Chris Woodward: If you ever tell me, Hottie Toddy, I'm going to assume you're. You've been taken by aliens.

>> Frank Turek: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: So I'm, just to conclude this segment here on cameras and scammers. This job offer that I refused this morning, that I got this morning on text, it, said, dear candidate.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, thank you for your.

>> Tim Wildmon: I just responded that I told him, I'm eight years old, so you're going to have to get back.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You didn't really respond.

>> Tim Wildmon: Kidding. Don't respond to these people because then you confirm that you're a real person.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. And then they won't leave you alone.

>> Tim Wildmon: And they won't leave me alone anyway.

American Family Radio features some legit, not spammers and scammers

All right. If you're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio, we do have some good news. Some legit, not spammers and scammers, to report here, today. And joining us to discuss it is our good friend Dr. Frank Turek, host of I don't have enough spam to be an atheist. Excuse me? I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. Heard. Weekday weekends, 9am Central Time and 4pm on Saturday and 4pm on Sunday afternoons. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. Frank Turk. Good morning, brother Frank.

>> Frank Turek: Hey, Tim, how come I keep getting emails from you that say that you're a Nigerian prince and that you want to send me a whole bunch of money to my bank account if I would just give it to you? It says Tim Wildmon on there.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, just send it to my bank account. Oh, gosh, you heard what we were talking about, people.

>> Chris Woodward: I did.

>> Tim Wildmon: People are getting exhausted with it.

>> Frank Turek: You know, hey, but can I say this?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, go ahead.

>> Frank Turek: That's part of the price of living in a capitalist society. You know, people are advertising. Okay. They, you know, I get frustrated with ads too, but on the other hand, ads keep the commerce going. I mean, it's why we have a country of prosperity.

>> Ed Vitagliano: We're not, we're not talking Frank.

>> Tim Wildmon: He thinks we're against capitalism.

>> Frank Turek: We weren't talking you socialists.

>> Ed Vitagliano: We weren't talking about getting ads to buy like, a Boston Bruins jersey. We're talking about scammers.

>> Frank Turek: Who would want that?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I would. And I made the mistake of searching one time and now that's all I get popping up. Now we're actually talking about the ones who try to extract information from you. Yeah.

>> Frank Turek: Oh, yeah, yeah, that's for sure. Yeah, you get plenty of that. that's not capitalism. That's theft.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, exactly.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's quite the opposite.

Major League Baseball says players will not be disciplined over Bible verses on Pride Night

all right, Chris, tell us the good news and then we'll Let Frank. Frank comment on it goes the Commissioner

>> Chris Woodward: of Major League Baseball, Rob Manfred, says players will not be discipline over Bible verses on Pride Night. Caps for people not aware, Major League Baseball has for many seasons now been a proud supporter of so called Pride Month and the LGBTQIA community. so much so that Major League Baseball puts out feel good, things with rainbow colors during June, which is Pride Month in the eyes of some Americans. San Francisco has a team called the Giants, and they recently paid tribute to Pride Night by having players in uniform that had rainbow colors on them. Some players said, I'm not doing that. And they wrote Bible verses on their caps. the Bible verse is from the book of Genesis, and it has to do with God's use of the rainbow to promise never to flood the earth again, which is something many Christians, talk about and share with other people during Pride Month. and various players were reprimanded, they were ridiculed, people were ripping them on social media. and after Senator Josh Hawley got involved here, Major League Baseball's commissioner came forth and said in a letter to Holly and others that the players are not going to be disciplined. And interestingly enough, the commissioner is on record as saying, the players were not even informed of their rights, that they didn't have to wear these kinds of things. Players were not informed. They were. They show up to work. This is the uniform. You wear it or you get fined. That kind of stuff. and so the good news here that I'm proud to share is that the Commissioner of Major League Baseball says these players will not be disciplined over sharing Bible verses on Pride Night Caps like many people said they would be. What do you think about all this, Frank?

>> Tim Wildmon: Wow.

>> Frank Turek: Gee, I think I know why. Because the Department of Justice was about to hammer them with a lawsuit. Rightfully so. In fact, Harmeet Dhillon, who is the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, said the DOJ had referred the matter to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, arguing that Major League Baseball's handling of the warnings raised religious discrimination concerns. Exactly. Let me ask you guys, why do you think we have Pride Night at a baseball game? What is the point of that?

>> Ed Vitagliano: It is to promote an ideology. And.

>> Frank Turek: Yeah, but, but why? Why that? Why not heterosexual marriage night? Why not fatherhood night?

>> Tim Wildmon: the bigots have come out. I thought we had moved. I thought we'd advance.

>> Frank Turek: Why not American Family Radio Night?

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: okay, well, that's a very good question. The. You know, let me just say this to. Just to clarify for folks what the commissioner of Major League Baseball did in response to Senator Hawley's letter. He said that the San Francisco Giants baseball team failed. This was kind of quite interesting. Fail to inform their players that they could opt out if they wanted to. From wearing the pride, logo on their uniform.

>> Frank Turek: Yeah, I get that.

>> Tim Wildmon: I get.

>> Frank Turek: I think it opt out. But why are they doing it to begin with?

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, because all the world is. Frank, you know, I agree with you. Why, why do you celebrate, a sexual orientation or a you know, a political view? it's. Those are. Those are intertwined. I think most Americans are tired of it. I think, you know, I think most people. Okay, we get it. You're proud. Okay. And we get it. You've added two letters since last year. You know, so we got that. But you know, why is it necessary to. To. To have to be promoted and be exalted, you know, at. For a Major League Baseball or any. Any corporation or any company. So I think this is. It's. It's not good news that Major League Baseball does this. Now is this the choice though, of the team or this Major League. Major League Baseball, Make all their teams do this?

>> Frank Turek: Well, there is one team that does not do this every year and that's the Texas Ranger.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well then it must not. It must not be compulsory.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Then I think, I think the individual

>> Tim Wildmon: team can make a decision.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Make the decision. And if they do that, then Major League Baseball gives the thumbs up to the decision to change the uniform. Away from the typical approved uniform.

>> Tim Wildmon: Because normally you can't change.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's against the rules.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. You get fined for wearing something.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. And I understand that every, every company has to have the right to.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And I think what Frank's talking about, because this happened in the National Hockey League. They started drifting towards the pride Night celebrations as well. And the players were told they had to. For the pre game skate, they come out for warm ups. That they would wear rainbow, jerseys. And then those jerseys are given away or auctioned off afterwards. And what was happening is that you have.

National Hockey League stopped Pride Night after players refused to wear rainbow jerseys

Because the National Hockey League has a good. Pretty good percentage of players from Eastern Europe, most of whom were Catholic or Orthodox. They refused to go out for the warmup with these jerseys on. And you had other players using tape on their sticks that was rainbow. And they were refusing to do that. And there were enough of that. These teams were getting embarrassed. And the local homosexual activist group was saying how come Ivan Provorov is not wearing the jersey? You Got four players who aren't wearing the jersey. So rather than have that embarrassment, they stopped doing the Pride Night in the National Hockey League. Now there's a few teams that do continue to do it, but now that this has been clarified by Major League Baseball, it could. It could be that you have more teams who do the same thing.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: If you've got enough players who say, no, I don't want to wear the cap, you may see some of these teams go, all right, then we're not doing it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead.

>> Frank Turek: Exactly like Daniel and his friends. We're not going to bow to the. We're not going to bow to the idol. You know, fine, throw us in the fire. We're not going to do it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right, Right.

>> Frank Turek: I mean, but too, many Christians are like sheep. They just go along.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well, Josh Hawley's not a sheep, I guess.

>> Frank Turek: Certainly not.

>> Tim Wildmon: Let me just say this just to clarify for maybe people who are casual listeners or not Christians, and they don't understand what's wrong with you people. You don't want to be nice to gay and lesbians. Why do you object to this? Let me just say this just clearly and, some people confuse this intentionally or don't understand it. Okay? There are many Christians who believe the Bible when it says that homosexuality is a sin, just like adultery, or just like murder, or just like stealing or lying or infidelity, cheating. those. They're sin against God. In other words, God tells you, don't do this, and you do it. You have sinned. So homosexual now. So homosexuality, the behavior itself is listed as a sin, not in the Ten Commandments, but in other places in the Bible. Okay? So when you have a Christian player, on your team, and you say you must wear an emblem that celebrates something you believe is a sin and forbidden, then you're violating their conscience. Okay? And thus the expression religious exemption exists. Now, here's where the many on the, I guess secular left would say they would. They falsely equate what I just said as hate. In other words, if you don't want to wear this emblem that supports pride for LGBTQ. XR, Y, Z, W, 9, 10, 40 D. Okay? If you don't support. If you don't want to wear this emblem. Oh, what's wrong with you, hater? You must be a hater.

>> Chris Woodward: Right?

>> Tim Wildmon: See, it's like, and it's a false, accusation. it's like saying that because you don't want to celebrate. I'm trying to think on the fly, you don't want to celebrate, alcohol

>> Wesley Wildmon: or pick a different religion.

>> Tim Wildmon: You hate the alcoholic, right?

>> Frank Turek: well, the reason for that is a lot of people think that love means approval. If you're going to love me, you have to approve of what I do. But love doesn't mean approval. Every parent knows if you approve of everything your 13 year old wants to do, you're not loving. You need to stand in the way of evil. The people on the other side of this issue, the people who identify as lgbtq, they don't approve of our position, but that doesn't mean they don't love us. Love doesn't mean approval. If it meant approval, you would have to approve of every evil thing that's being done. And according to the designer of the universe, then the designer of us same sex relations are harmful and sinful and it would be unloving of us to wear the emblem. It would be unloving of us to lie to people and say it's okay. It would be unloving of us to approve of something that isn't right. This is why Paul says in the passage that everybody reads at their wedding, but nobody obeys 1 Corinthians 13, that love always protects, love always perseveres. Love does not rejoice in wrongdoing, it rejoices in the truth. So you don't affirm error, you don't affirm things that are wrong. When you do that, you're unloving and you're enticing people to stay in a situation that not only has temporal but eternal consequences.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I'll add to this. It's because of what we're saying, I believe is the reason why this issue is becoming a slow fade to, not being a thing anymore. Now it's not. I mean, obviously it's not going to go. I don't think it'll ever go completely away, especially as long as you got Obergefell, the legal side of it. But we are seeing a, a lot of losing in this area. If you remember back during the, the peak of the woke era, between 2019 and 2021, when we can all go down the list of people getting fired for this position, I mean, Kurt, Kurt Kirk Shilling, he's a baseball player. He was. And he was a sports analyst. He put on his own. This is back in 2017 or something like that, he tweeted on his own personal account the Bible verse that says, a one man, one woman, and he gets fired.

>> Tim Wildmon: Espn, I think ESPN fired.

>> Wesley Wildmon: My point is that in the name of inclusion. In the name of inclusion.

>> Frank Turek: That's right.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. But we could sit here for 30 minutes and list off a bunch of people that's been fired in years past. Now you've got this type of response here where they're like, you know, this is, I guess we're winning. It reminds me of the passage Scripture where it says, don't grow weary and do and give, because if you don't, if you don't go weary and doing good.

>> Tim Wildmon: Because if you'll, hang in there.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Hang in there.

>> Tim Wildmon: In Hebrew.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, Hebrew.

>> Frank Turek: Hang in.

>> Wesley Wildmon: You'll reap if you don't give up.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

Frank Turek: Christians fought this issue early on

>> Wesley Wildmon: Include and hang in there. So I think the Christians have fought this issue. now I don't think we did really good early on. We were really caught on our heels in the messaging. We were in defense mode. And I think it took us a long time, but a combination of Christians being better, a little better in the apologetic side of this, but also too time, time just proves this out. Because you can call me a hater, right, all you want, but evidence over time, when I'm still being the same person, there is no hate there. Yeah, it's like the SPLC the other day. You know, they got all this false hate out there.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know what I would also ask, Frank, is for those who say you're a hater, what if I say so what?

>> Frank Turek: Well, yeah, they, they don't have really a moral standard outside themselves.

>> Tim Wildmon: What's their answer if I say so

>> Frank Turek: what, good or wrong is? Well, they'll probably just say you shouldn't be a hater. Of course they don't have a standard.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's what I'm saying. So where, where are you getting the hate wrong? Yeah, what moral, what moral, playbook are you looking at? Oh, the Bible. Oh, the Bible. Oh, okay, so you're.

>> Frank Turek: The left is not consistent.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're a Bible thumper.

>> Frank Turek: Well, they're not consistent. They have these moral rights they've developed out of nowhere. There's no right to same sex marriage because God has not granted a right to same sex marriage. If there is no God, there are no rights. There's just preferences. It's just your preference against somebody else. Yet on one hand, people will argue there is no God. On the other hand, they will say that we have certain rights. They'll say that right. Or, they'll say that marriage is a social construction, but we have an absolute right to same sex marriage. Look, if marriage is a social construction, there's no right to any kind of marriage, whether it's same sex or opposite sex. Natural marriage. There's no right to anything. It's just an opinion. You don't have an authoritative standard of righteousness outside yourself. As our Declaration of Independence says, you don't have rights.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, Frank, I mean, we have a. I, ah mean you're evidence. Your proof of what happened early on when Wesley was talking. Early on. I don't know how much of this you want to share, but you were canceled, weren't you?

>> Frank Turek: Oh, yeah. I was fired from Cisco and Bank of America because I wrote a book called Correct, Not Politically Correct about sex, marriage and trans. Yeah, yeah. In the name of inclusion, tolerance and diversity. I was not included, not tolerated. Holding a diverse view. The left is not consistent, ladies and gentlemen. And by the way, back to the whole point of this. Sports is supposed to bring people together.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes.

>> Frank Turek: You're supposed to sit next to one another regardless of your political views. Cheer for your team. All quitting inserting sin into. Into the sporting event.

>> Tim Wildmon: By the way, the owner of the NewSong York Knicks, announced that his team will be going to the White House.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Did you see that?

>> Frank Turek: Oh yeah, that's good.

>> Tim Wildmon: So yeah, the White House, is place where all sports teams go. Should go now. They polarize that one.

>> Chris Woodward: Right?

>> Wesley Wildmon: So.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Frank. Take care my friend. Appreciate it. God bless you guys because see Frank Turek there. Ladies and gentlemen. Gentlemen, we'll be back momentarily.

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Tim Wildmon: We are going to Italy in March of 2027

Tim Wildmon, president of American Family association and American Family Radio. We are going to Italy in March of 2027. We're also going to Greece in March of 2027, and we're doing those tours back to back. If you want to do both of them in Italy, we'll be going to Venice, ride, the gondola and see all the sights there. And we'll go to Pisa and walk on the Leaning Tower of if you fall off, we're not responsible. Also, we're going to Rome and see the Sistine Chapel and the Colosseum and all the catacombs. We'll see all the sites of Rome and then Greece. It's the Footsteps of Paul trip. So the places where Paul went in the Bible mentioned in Greece. If you want information on any of these tours, go to tours.aca.net tours.afa.net tours.afa.net I will praise the Lord at all times. His praise will always be on my lips.

>> Chris Woodward: Psalm 34:1.

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American Family Radio Network welcomes back Chris Woodward with more good news

Hey, welcome back, everybody, to today's Issues here on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to afr. Tim, Ed, Wesley, and Krish. And Krish, what's your next story?

>> Chris Woodward: Well, I have more good news, it would seem.

>> Ed Vitagliano: What?

>> Tim Wildmon: We can't ever get enough of good news, Krish.

>> Chris Woodward: Positive and encouraging. Krish Woodward here.

Chris Bell: Nuclear inspectors will have unfettered access to Iran soil

Okay, so the update with the news out of Iran, or Iran, depending on

>> Tim Wildmon: how one might want get ready, get ready, people.

>> Chris Woodward: It would appear that, nuclear inspectors are going to be going into the nation of Iran to look for and determine whether or not Iran is adhering to global standards of not pursuing nuclear weapons. that was something we touched on a little bit yesterday during the show, but that continues to be a story. and somebody that was asked about that is a man that appears to have gotten Iran to agree to that. And that is none other than Vice President J.D. vance, who had this to say to reporters. Clip 2 Whether good faith or bad

>> Frank Turek: faith, you can't trust anybody's words.

>> Wesley Wildmon: You have to trust what they actually do.

>> Frank Turek: Letting in the inspectors is a big deal, but again, we're to see what they actually let the inspectors do once they're in the country. That's going to continually be a part of our negotiation. So my point is not that I

>> Chris Woodward: trust or distrust anybody.

>> Frank Turek: My point is that I trust actions. And what the president has asked us to do is verify what they're doing. Focus less on what they're saying.

>> Tim Wildmon: That was Vance.

>> Chris Woodward: That was Vance.

>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, it just didn't sound like. I don't know. But. Yeah, but, did that sound like Vance to you, or do you heard him enough to know?

>> Ed Vitagliano: it's hard to tell.

>> Tim Wildmon: I trust. Krish. Krish, if you say that's Vance, that's

>> Chris Woodward: Vance we had off the Fox News show.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, he probably had a cold or something. You know, make your voice change everything. Listen, this, Every day with these, Iranian negotiations is. Well, we'll see. That's kind of the only approach you can have is we'll see what happens. And that's kind of what Vance said right there. Although I will say this, if, in fact, if in fact it can be, negotiated and arranged to have UN inspectors have unfettered access to Iranian, soil where they can determine if, and verify that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon. That would be huge in this whole negotiation deal. But I'm going to have to see Iran agree to that. Agree to that in writing and in practice. And in practice, I'm going to. You know, we mentioned it before President Reagan, when negotiating with the Soviet Union, a, de escalation in nuclear weapons. He said, trust but verify.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: So I think that needs to be the approach, and it sounds like it is the approach of, the Trump administration in dealing with the Iranians. But, you know, listen, another thing, a side note. did you know that, Vice President Vance's wife is eight months pregnant? what's her first name? Usha. She's eight months pregnant. She's in Switzerland with him.

>> Ed Vitagliano: She flew at. Eight months pregnant. I didn't think that was allowable.

>> Chris Woodward: I have a BA in communication from an A and M M school. But I have always heard over the years that a woman that late in pregnancy should not travel that way. I think the reason obviously, has doctors

>> Wesley Wildmon: with her, that I think that's the reason is because you need to be close to your home doctor.

>> Chris Woodward: Right.

>> Wesley Wildmon: in case the further you get along. But I'm pretty sure she probably had her doctor travel with her.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I'm just gonna say it's been so long since I had a baby. My wife and I mean.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, good.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm glad you clarified.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't remember, but I, I, I, I. There were all kinds of restrictions, you know, I couldn't, I, I couldn't shove my wife anymore, you know, all that kind of stuff when she was pregnant.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, I'm not supposed to laugh. That was A bad.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That was a bad joke.

>> Wesley Wildmon: It was a bad joke.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That was just. That was uncalled for.

>> Chris Woodward: Behind every good man saying, we did it, honey, after she gave birth is a great woman rolling her eyes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, I will say this. This is absolutely true. I'd never laid a hand on my wife in anger. First of all, she could take me. Okay, so that was.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. So. But when she had our first child, our daughter, she was in labor for eight hours. Now, I was there for that, but afterwards, I told her, I said, I don't know what you're complaining about. I work eight hours every day.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, gosh. Oh, wow.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That did not go over well.

>> Tim Wildmon: I kind of want to stand back from you right now. Fear of lightning.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I know what you're complaining about. I work an eight hour day every day.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but I.

>> Chris Woodward: Boom, one day. She should write a book.

>> Tim Wildmon: Who should?

>> Chris Woodward: his wife with her name. Her bin was Mrs. Vitagliano. she should write a book. Dianne.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right, Dianne.

She should write like musings, Brad says

>> Chris Woodward: I'm terrible with names. I'm still. I'm still learning with you, Brad. Anyway, she should. She should write like musings. Musings or something. Like her response. Like her version of the story. Yeah, my ver.

>> Tim Wildmon: My.

>> Chris Woodward: It's my turn.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And, and let me tell you, the COVID would be a picture of her rolling her eyes.

There's a lot of pressure on Vice President Vance on the Iran negotiations

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so back to Usha. Yeah, she is. anyway, she's, I thought it was highly unusual that a 8 month pregnant woman would be flying international. But as you guys say, she is on Air Force Two and does have access to the best medical care. So I'm sure, you know, they're prepared should she go into labor, over in, Switzerland. Right. Aren't they in Switzerland negotiating this?

>> Ed Vitagliano: They in Geneva?

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, they've been in Switzerland. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, again, this is, There's a lot of pressure here on, On Vice President Vance.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Because he's the lead negotiator and, you know, he's. He's got a lot on him. Right. This is a very, very important moment. Right in.

>> Frank Turek: In.

>> Chris Woodward: In.

>> Tim Wildmon: In 20. What do you call it? 21st century.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: It could impact his 20, 28 chances, should he.

>> Ed Vitagliano: One way or the other.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah. he. To me, he. He handles himself very well and every. Don't. Don't you guys think so? I mean, I know I do. I know I'm. I, favor him because he's a conservative and I'm a conservative. So I know that that bias enters into it but just hearing him speak and talk and how he carries himself. Vice President Bass, so. And he's a relatively young man. Was he in his early 40s?

>> Chris Woodward: Yes, he's. He's just a little bit younger than me. It's the first time in my lifetime somebody in that office has been younger than me. I think he's 42.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I was gonna say. I thought I was gonna say 43. But, he's in that. He's in that ballpark. But he's very articulate. He understands the issues. He understands our constitutional government, which. And he's a. A strong Christian. And, listen, Marco Rubio, Because Rubio was involved in a lot of this going on, his stock was rising, and as he kind of takes center stage on the negotiations, his stock has to be rising. So, yeah, he's a good person to have doing this.

>> Chris Woodward: He is currently. Well, I don't think he was born in August of 84, so he would be 42 this August.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Good night, Ed. We're moving down the life's highway.

>> Ed Vitagliano: 85.

>> Tim Wildmon: 84 was the summer Olympics.

>> Chris Woodward: You were watching Mary Lou.

>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I told somebody. I told Buddy Smith in, Devotions yesterday, we were talking about. Oh, I might have mentioned this on the air yesterday. I can't remember because I'm so old, but we were talking about, something. And I. And I told him, I said, I don't like looking in the rearview mirror, man. There's a long stretch of road behind me. And I told him, I said, and sometimes I fear that the bridge is out right around the next turn.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, we had an intern a few years ago. Great, great young man wish. him. W. But I asked him one day, just randomly, I was like, what's the first movie you remember seeing? And he told me the name of the movie, and I looked it up, and it came out in 2010.

>> Tim Wildmon: Vance was born the year I was married. anyway, Father Time waits on no man.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It is undefeated.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.

Chris: One day Brent and I are going to broadcast from some bunker

>> Frank Turek: All right.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Next story.

>> Chris Woodward: Krish, I was just going to say one day when Brent and I are randomly, airing on every other Tuesday on eight from some bunker, we'll have these stories about how time has passed us by. If the Lord terries.

>> Ed Vitagliano: If the Lord.

>> Tim Wildmon: Terri from some bunker.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, are you prophesying something, or.

>> Chris Woodward: No, I was just joking. One day, like, you know, we're going to be randomly, Because, you know, the government won't let us broadcast.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Chris Woodward: I'M just,

>> Tim Wildmon: You're rambling right there, you rambling man.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

Democratic Socialists running against Democrats in New York primaries tonight

>> Chris Woodward: All right. So, there are some primaries today in NewSong York and these are things to watch live in Manhattan, Kansas instead of Manhattan, NewSong York. the reason why I say Americans should pay attention to and watch this situation is because interestingly enough, in NewSong York today we've got battles between the far left and the left. We've got Democratic Socialists running against Democrats in NewSong York primaries.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's crazy versus lunatic.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, but they're both in the Democratic Party.

>> Chris Woodward: But they're both in the Democratic Party.

>> Tim Wildmon: Now what I did there.

>> Chris Woodward: The Democratic Socialists have been no shocker. Endorsed by the Democratic Socialist mayor, Zoran Mamdani. Yeah. So be watching these kinds of things because what happens in big places sometimes inspires people in other places. If Democratic Socialists continue to win elections, it will inspire a Democratic Socialist in other parts of the country. So even if you live in Yakna, Batafa County, Mississippi, which is a fictional place, you know, it, it might inspire you, to run for office, which is why you've seen people like the mayor of Seattle, run for office. She's a Democratic Socialist. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Somewhere out there in America, There's a young 11 year old aspiring Democratic Socialist who's who. Just watching the news tonight to see is there a road forward for me.

>> Chris Woodward: Well, to that young man or woman, I would suggest you afr and pay attention to Frank Couric's cross examination.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know which letter they are.

>> Ed Vitagliano: We said this in 2020, as the Democratic Party was going through its primary season. You remember Joe Biden was having a struggle against Bernie Sanders.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: An admitted socialist. We've made this point many times. And when it became clear that Bernie Sanders could give Joe Biden a run for the nomination, it was, the Democratic Party got everyone together and they said we're gonna get. Have to get behind Joe Biden. So Bernie Sanders and some others dropped out.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And they threw their support to Joe Biden. He was able to win in South Carolina and get him on the road to the nomination. But we surmised that part of the agreement with the Bernie Sanders wing of the party was that, if we do this, if we drop out and throw our support to Joe Biden, you've got to open the door to the socialist wing of the party in terms of making decisions. And it seems clear that not only has that happened, but all the, almost all the energy within that party comes from the socialist wing.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And I Fully expect that tonight as we're seeing the results, I would expect some of these socialists to win. And that is going to, that could spell doom for the Democratic Party for an entire generation. If they go so far to the left, they abandon Israel, if they continue to defend men and women's sports, all these kinds of things, and then tax into oblivion the wealthy in these big cities and drive, continue to drive businesses out. You could see a real struggle for political, relevancy amongst the Democratic Party.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, it's, something.

>> Tim Wildmon: Next story, Krish.

>> Chris Woodward: Huh?

>> Tim Wildmon: Wesley, you didn't want to comment on that?

>> Wesley Wildmon: No, I'm ready for the next story.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, let's go. All right, next story, Krish.

Carl Carlson says he will no longer support the Republican Party ahead of midterm elections

>> Chris Woodward: Well, speaking of people that are trying to get attention and possibly inspire others, we do have a story on our website, from the Associated Press, which reports that Tucker Carlsen says he will no longer support the Republican Party ahead of the November midterm elections. speaking on the Can't Be Censored podcast, Carlsen expressed disillusionment with the Republican Party he said he defended for 30 plus years. He criticized the party for prioritizing foreign interests over American citizens. Carlsen's views of the GOP have shifted, especially after President Donald Trump's decision to go to war with Iran in February.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Did he say what party he would be?

>> Chris Woodward: He did not. But I would guess it's probably going to be like an independent type situation which a number of, broadcasters claim to be independent, minded, type people. They're not a registered Republican. Carl.

>> Tim Wildmon: I think we should all be independent minded. I mean, make evaluations on people and policies based on whether they're good or bad, not whether there's an R or D beside them, although. But for practical political purposes, ppp.

>> Wesley Wildmon: See what it is, especially for a general election.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. We have political parties for a reason. Okay. And there are only two major political parties. A third party has been tried by people on the left and on the right and they don't work. Okay. Because they can. You gotta. The things you have to do, to create a third political party that's viable for any length of time are just impossible, okay. In today's day.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's why we're forming within the party is more doable.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. So what you do, that being the case, so what I always tell people, why don't we form a Christian party? Okay. We can form a Christian party and get 7%, you know.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, not only that, we've said this many times. You can have a, a very popular independent third party, whatever you want to say, third party candidate and for president, Ross Perot. Yeah. I mean, you can have, you can have someone who, who draws interest, but if they win, how do they govern? Because now you not only have one opposition party in Congress to battle against, you have two.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So you had. You would have no support in Congress because you have nobody else except for the presidential candidate who's third party. and that's why it's so difficult for this to happen.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, the money. The money and organization. It takes it. Ross Perot, for all his money and all his popularity at the time, for those who remember that name from the 80s, I think he got. What did he get? 16%.

>> Ed Vitagliano: He was in the 90s.

>> Chris Woodward: It was enough to keep H.W. bush reelected.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but I'm saying with all. And he had a very popular following. Okay. But he only got, like, he finished still third place behind, Bush and Clinton, Gore or whoever the people were at the time they were running. So I'm just saying that your best, option, if you want to make an impact in politics is to be a part of a major political party, R or D, and then work within that party to promote your ideas.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And then. And then if you go all the way down to extremely local parties, like, then, yeah, you can get. You can be a little bit more, What do you call critical of an individual?

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that's what President Trump figured out. At the time. He was basically an independent. I mean, when he first ran for president, now his ideas were more in line with the Republican Party, even though he had been a Democrat in NewSong York. But almost everybody was. Well, except for Rudy Giuliani. I'm just saying that even Donald Trump, he, much like Ross Perot, had a, organic, popularity following because of his TV show celebrity and because some of the ideas that he was promoting, especially America first, but even he figured out, hey, I've got a. I got to get the political. I got to get the Republican Party on board with my message.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, he got almost 19 of the popular vote in 92. Wow. Ross Perot.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, did he?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I think that was the best anyone's ever done in a third party run. Almost 19%.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's a lot, man.

>> Chris Woodward: I, when you first mentioned Ross Perot, I, I remembered hearing things in his voice. 92 was like the first election. I really remember, and, and seeing. Played out on television the whole year or whatever. And I just remember him debating, to his credit, he was able to debate Bush and Clinton at the Same time. And they. NAFTA was the big, Was, the big topic or whatever.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And he was like giant sound, giant sucking sound, cartoon voice almost.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I just remember he was on Larry King Show.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ross Perot was. And he would say, Larry. Yeah, Larry.

>> Chris Woodward: And a state of the union in his speech.

>> Tim Wildmon: Larry, let m. Me tell you something, Larry. Now, Ross Perot kind of was ahead of his time in terms of his. He sort of saw ahead on, what, what he viewed some of our trade agreements were going to do, and that was hurt the manufacturing base in the US and he tried to warn against it. I don't know what all his platform was, but that was basically. He was basically, he was almost an

>> Ed Vitagliano: America first kind of. Back in those days he was against nafta and NAFTA has been replaced with something different name. But that's when he made his famous, statement that if we go through with this, you're going to hear a giant sucking sound, which is going to be American jobs going to Mexico.

>> Chris Woodward: And that's what happened.

For the seventh year in a row Oklahoma has won the College World Series

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, you're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for joining us, Tim, Ed Wesley and Krish. Krish, do you have another story you'd like to bring forth?

>> Chris Woodward: I do, I do. We have a new College World Series champion.

>> Tim Wildmon: I watched that game.

>> Chris Woodward: No shocker here. It's another SEC team. the sec, for the seventh year in a row has won the College World Series. The latest champion is the Oklahoma Sooners, a team that finished with a sub.500 record in its conference and did not win a conference tournament game. Eeks into the postseason, plays like their hair is on fire and goes on to dominate the North Carolina Tar Heels, which was a very good team. They won it in the third of, best of three series. And the Oklahoma Sooners, for the first time since 94 are your college World Series champion.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You sound like a frustrated sports commentator.

>> Chris Woodward: I got into broadcasting to work into sports and this is my moment.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Ah, played like their hair was on fire.

>> Tim Wildmon: So Georgia Bulldogs want something other than football is what you're saying. Yeah, I, know not the Georgia.

>> Chris Woodward: Oklahoma beat Georgia, which was my pick to on that side of the record. I had, I had, I was half right. I predicted it would be Georgia, North Carolina, and I got half of it right, so.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So I keep up with this.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oklahoma Sooners won the national championship.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. So I keep up with college baseball real closely. And so after the fact, I had Georgia picked to win it too. After Oklahoma wins, after being. Let me repeat this. Sub 500 in sec play, they accidentally got lucky in postseason. As a coach, how do I tell my players that things matter?

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Or does luck involved.

>> Chris Woodward: This is what you do.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, hold on. I hear that. I hear the people from Oklahoma saying, hold on a minute. we just, we went, we sell. We went through the whole tournament, came out number one. That's not, that can't be just luck.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's not just luck because that happens all the time in sports.

>> Chris Woodward: It does.

>> Ed Vitagliano: you get teams who get hot at the right time or they get

>> Tim Wildmon: injured players back or they get injured place.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And, and conversely, you can have a team that's dominant all year and then they have an unfortunate string of injuries.

>> Chris Woodward: Ucla, perfect example.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And they, and they, and they wind up not.

>> Wesley Wildmon: There's a reason for that, though. They played really, really, really weak teams.

>> Chris Woodward: They did, they did.

>> Tim Wildmon: but okay, Oklahoma Sooner fans, you can send your emails to west

>> Wesley Wildmon: ucla.

>> Tim Wildmon: They're not dissing Oklahoma. Ucla, basically, Oklahoma played.

>> Wesley Wildmon: No, no. They played a phenomenal team.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: the, the sec. And this is going to sound like a homer kind of thing because I'm from the sec. I graduated from a school that's a member of the sec. But the SEC regular season is basically the College World Series.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes.

>> Chris Woodward: That determines who's going to play Bloodbath.

>> Tim Wildmon: Let me just say this. There's a reason for this. and that is weather. the teams north of the Mason Dixon line, they can't even get out on the baseball field to mid April Harford. And so they're at a real disadvantage. So your Sun Belt team by Sunbelt, I'm talking about from California down to Florida, maybe north to Arkansas. it's about as far as north. Those teams seem to dominate in base in baseball and softball for the reasons I mentioned. Also the high school players and the junior high players which are feeding these college programs, they can play these sports almost year round, whereas you go to Pennsylvania and NewSong Hampshire and Michigan, you're not going to be able to play baseball in three inches of snow.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: So that's a disadvantage on those kinds of sports. Now you get into football and basketball, then that's a more national, ah, test and you see where Big Ten teams, for example, do great in basketball and football. Go ahead.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. well, I was going to, I was going to mention. I thought I lost my train of thought about this, being north and, school. Oh, I know. I was going to say that's why there's all the colleges and baseball north of Tennessee.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Wesley Wildmon: They schedule their entire first month of baseball in the South. So they've come down. They'll come down here for all of February, all of March, so they can actually play ball. So I was listening to one commentator. I was watching a team from up north play, and it was mid April, they were playing their first game at their stadium, and State had already played 18 games at home.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: There is nothing more miserable than trying to watch baseball in the 37 degree temperature.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah. Or a pitcher trying to pitch in it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, they are. The players hate it, the coaches hate it, the fans hate it. The ones that show up, you know, so it's just baseball. I remember I used to joke because high, school football used to start in mid August and still does.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And then high school baseball starts in mid February.

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>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes. Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: We're starting base. We're targeting football in baseball weather, and we're starting baseball in football weather. So, anyway, we'll be back momentarily with more of today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. The views and opinions expressed in this

>> Frank Turek: broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.

Tim, Ed and Wesley talk with Chris on top news headlines of the day including a discussion on how V.P. Vance says Iran has agreed to let inspectors in to check for nuclear weapons.  Also, Dr. Frank Turek joins the program to discuss Pride Night and the MLB.