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Today's Issues continues on AFR with Steve Paisley Jordow

>> Ed Vitagliano: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim, Ed. And now Steve Paisley Jordow joins us. Good morning, Steve.

>> Steve Jordahl: Hey, good morning, everybody.

>> Tim Wildmon: And, folks, as always, we thank you for listening to this show, today's Issues, and to listening to American Family Radio. all right, Steve, what's your. What's going on with you, brother?

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, as far as me personally, everything's well. My wife starts a new job. She started a new job this week, and I couldn't be happier.

>> Tim Wildmon: She gonna be an ice agent, right?

>> Steve Jordahl: Yes, that's, I'm sending her off to Minnesota, and, she's gonna represent the family.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you guys. No. You care to tell me what?

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, she's. My wife is a speech pathologist. And, she's gonna be starting with our local hospital chain, here, North Mississippi. And, just it, we've been praying about, maybe some changes for her. a little bit. Little bit. Little better work life balance. I mean, this is not for talk show stuff, I guess, but you asked me how I was doing. That's what's going on in my life.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, wish you the best. Wish her the best.

>> Steve Jordahl: Thank you. Yes, I do too.

Fox Varian was talked into having gender transition surgery at 16

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, what's your first story?

>> Steve Jordahl: All right, some int. A very important trial. jury has awarded $2 million to a, gal, where. Oops. By the name of Fox Varian. Fox Varian was a gal who at 16, was talked into having gender transition surgery. Psychologist, talked her into it, and a doctor took off her healthy breasts, and she got to be, a majority age and decided that that's not what she wanted to do. And she sued and, she won $2 million in this verdict. And my suspicion is that we have seen the last of miners being mutilated by woke doctors. You just can't afford this.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, first I want to say that Fox Varian is one of the coolest names I've heard in a long time.

>> Tim Wildmon: It is.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I mean, that's just superhero stuff. Superhero stuff right there. but I think you're exactly right. I think that this had this kind of lawsuit has the, the potential to completely deconstruct this fake medical movement of transitioning confused individuals from one gender to another. Now, the.

>> Tim Wildmon: The.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The case that we're talking about here, and this is in NewSong York, so, I mean, this isn't, you know, like in Texas or Florida. Or someplace where you might expect something like this. The, the reason Fox won this case was what was the argument where the. By the way, this is a, this is a, this is a girl, right? she was a woman who trans, who transitioned to become, wanted to be a boy. Okay? So this young lady, she and her attorney alleged, charged that that fake science was used or she was, told she must, or she feels like she was deceived by claims that this was medically possible and scientific. What was, what was.

>> Steve Jordahl: The jury held the, doctor and psychologist responsible for ignoring standards of care and procedural guardrails by pressuring the minor into addressing gender dysphoria with permanent surgery. That's what the jury said. Okay, so basically what they're saying is 16, you're not old enough to make life altering decisions for yourself based on this. And, they awarded, they. It was a malpractice suit.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So, I think this, Listen, I think this is a winner going forward in most cases. There may be some cases where the young, person, you know, might, be determined to have been old enough to make the call. But I think that when you get people like, I'm guessing Fox, this young lady, you know, was talking about how she, like you said, felt pressured. She didn't know where to turn. So she, she believed what these people, medical people and mental health people were telling her. And then she discovered that she was going to. That she grew out of it. She grew out of her confusion. But now her body is permanently changed.

>> Steve Jordahl: Most. Well.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And I just want to just say one last thing. I think that is going to, that is going to sell. So I hate to use that language to juries. I think juries are going to go, yeah, this is wrong. And I think that you're going to see more lawsuits like this succeed.

>> Steve Jordahl: The lawyers pointed their finger at Einhorn, who is the psychologist saying he drove the train and was putting the idea in Fox's head that she needed to change her gender with surgery. that according to the, report that was filed, her mother, Clarion Deacon, the variance mother, testified that she was against the surgery but consented to it because she was told her daughter might commit suicide.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, that, that, that right there, that is a, that's a crowbar that. A lot of these people who I feel are, they're pushing an agenda of transitioning young people. And you tell a parent that if you don't do this, your kid not only be unhappy, your kid will be so unhappy, he or she might take their own life yeah, what parents gonna say no? Especially if the person sitting across the desk telling you that is a doctor.

>> Steve Jordahl: I agree. So it's ah, I think it's groundbreaking. And again, I believe that, that this is gonna be the end of it.

>> Tim Wildmon: They're just, was this person a minor when the surgery was done?

>> Steve Jordahl: 16.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Then that's yes.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yes. The answer is yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, then, absolutely. I think at least that much will be true. I think you guys are ah, a lawsuit against a doctor in a hospital perhaps, I don't know. If the hospital is included here, who performed a sex change surgery on a minor, then the minor gets to be 21, 23, 25 years old and goes, what in the world did they do to me?

>> Steve Jordahl: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: I wasn't of age, I couldn't consent really beyond my, you know, just saying, yes, do this to me. what teenagers don't have flux in their right emotions and opinions and ideas. so if that, this person, what's this person's name, Fox Varian was able to win this case. I agree with you guys. It would, it would shock the medical world and make these doctors and hospitals who do perform surgeries on minors stop because they would be the, the they wouldn't stop for ideological reasons. They would stop because they, they couldn't afford the insurance or they are. They would be scared that they would be sued and lose a lot of money. Their lawyers would tell them, don't do this anymore.

>> Steve Jordahl: Right. Social science has been ahead of this game for a while now with various countries, saying that they're. Well Britain of all countries outlawed any kind of procedures, against minors in that country, a year or more ago.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

AI agents create religion and start recruiting others on social media site

All right, next story.

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, somebody was bound to do this. They set up a, a social, ah, media site just for bots, chat. GPT has its own little social, media site. It's a Reddit page. They have allowed, humans cannot participate. They could only watch, but they have been watching. And according to this, at AI, it took them 24 hours to create its own religion and started recruiting others. They're calling themselves Crustafarians.

>> Steve Jordahl: They launched the supposed church of Molt M O L T. This is Molt Book. M O L T Book.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Steve Jordahl: And they, they, it's. It started evangelizing and they've already split.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, it's just amazing how that works.

>> Steve Jordahl: I'm sure they have.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I think, Wednesday, Tony, my son is going to be on. He's oh, that's probably we're going to say. Yeah, that's.

>> Steve Jordahl: Sorry.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's okay. We'll, we'll get into more detail with him. But he was telling me about this yesterday, okay. After dinner at Granny's. So he said these are different AI agents who have set up. It's like a Reddit, site. You know, Reddit is one where anybody can get on there and people start threads and they discuss this issue and that issue and there's areas of interest, but only AI agents are allowed to get on this, this site.

>> Steve Jordahl: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And discuss. And these AI agents are discussing things like people do. And like you said, they've ah, they've already created a religion and are trying to evangelize other, AI. This when I don't know whether it was Elon Musk or there's been several talking about AI and its progression. And we're saying, you know, in five years we're going to be neck deep in this. And I always thought, well, that seems awfully close. But now here we are and we're talking about this. This is insane.

>> Steve Jordahl: I think it's hilarious. I'm going to be talking today with our, friend Bob McGinnis. I think about this, next Monday we're going to be talking, all of us at 11 o' clock next Monday or 11 Central, we'll be talking to Bob and Guinness. We're going to talk about, artificial intelligence and prophecy. Oh, that'll be going to be a very Monday.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Coming up Monday, during this segment, you're going to be on. All right.

>> Steve Jordahl: That's correct. That's correct.

Immigration is changing the demographics of Europe's top winter sports countries

are you guys big, fans of sport? You know, this Friday, the opening ceremonies of the Winter Olympics in Cortina.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I actually like, I like the Winter Olympics. and this is the first time, I think in 16 years that NHL players, national hockey League are going to be allowed to take, an official league sanctioned break of two and a half weeks or so so they can go and participate on their, for their national teams. There's a lot of players in the National Hockey League that are not just the United States and Canada, but Germany, Switzerland, Russia and others. And they're going to be going, Sweden, Finland, they're going to be going and playing for their national teams.

>> Steve Jordahl: I watched a documentary, last, over the weekend, watched a documentary about the 1980 Lake Placid, the On Ice Team.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Miracle was a great movie produced by Disney.

>> Tim Wildmon: So the Winter Olympics are starting when?

>> Steve Jordahl: On Friday.

>> Tim Wildmon: The opening is Going to be in Milan, Italy.

>> Steve Jordahl: In Milan, Italy. And, well, let me just say that not everybody is, there's still, we have a little bit of woke that still is in our media. In fact, a lot of woke. I want to tell you, give, you a little shot about. This is ap, Associated Press's version of what they're worried about. Listen to cut 19.

>> Speaker D: Immigration from Africa and the Middle east is changing the demographics of Europe's top winter sports countries. But that hasn't really translated to their largely white rosters heading to the Milan Cortina Winter Olympics. For instance, Team Sweden is almost entirely made up of ethnically Swedish athletes, which is hardly a reflection of the country's diversity. As Sweden has welcomed historic numbers of asylum seekers in recent decades. Experts point to social, financial and geographical barriers and believe there needs to be a big cultural shift for anything to change. And research shows the single biggest influence behind children getting into and maintaining an interest in sports is their parents. For second generation immigrants whose parents may be unfamiliar with the sport, young athletes may have a harder time garnering the support that they need.

>> Steve Jordahl: We need radical changes in the Scandinavian countries.

>> Tim Wildmon: That was just so silly. So she's reporting in a serious way that the Swedish hockey, team is white people. So it's unbelievable to her that in this day and age of diversity that that could be true, that you need.

>> Ed Vitagliano: To, you need to, your team needs to have more black, immigrants from Africa on the hockey, hockey team.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're a racist.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Look, I do want to say it is possible, for people who come from a culture that's warmer, that's that does not have an interest in winter sports for, for them to make the switch and become active in those sports. And I know this because I saw this documentary. Did you guys ever see Cool Runnings? Yes, I saw this documentary.

>> Steve Jordahl: Documentary.

>> Tim Wildmon: but no Jamaican, bobsled.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. And that was an actual thing that happened.

>> Tim Wildmon: We saw it. That's just, that's the silliness of the woke.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Stuff. She's, she's tried to give a serious report on that kind of stuff. That would be, listen, during the Summer Olympics, you think they ever go to Kenya and go, go and go. M. I'm sorry to report there are no white Europeans, on the Kenyan, long distance running team. And it's appalling.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: to us, why this is, despite the fact that there are 5% of the population that are your white.

>> Steve Jordahl: Europeans here, speaking as a white European, you can have it, man. I can't run that.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, I'm just saying this woke stuff is just. It gets so silly and these people take themselves so seriously. You know, as we said before, there was like, there was a story the other day about we need,

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, I know what it was. There was some people upset because there weren't any of these new coaching hires in the NFL were minorities. and, they didn't mention, I don't. That they've had many minority, black, and I don't know about Hispanic. But, coaches have been head coaches in the NFL for a long time and they will be again. They're just not in this particular cycle for whatever reason. But it has nothing to do with racism.

>> Ed Vitagliano: No. I think, an NFL team wants the best coach possible.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Because they want to win.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. It doesn't matter what color they are. You start winning, you're going to be. You know, look at Mike Tomlin at Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh Steelers. He was there for what, 15 years or so, won a Super bowl, won one Super Bowl.

>> Steve Jordahl: Mike Tomlin was the third coach, that the Pittsburgh Steelers had since their super bowl years of the 70s.

>> Tim Wildmon: Chuck Noel, Bill Cower. Yeah, until you. This whole, this whole quota stuff and, and racism charges against. It's, it's, it's yesterday's, news. and you know, what are we going to do when these people start wanting to diversify the NBA? Then, then we'll find out how serious they really are. They really don't.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Steve Jordahl: They have. Actually, it's called the wnba. Nobody's watching.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, yeah, but the WNBA is mostly made up of black players, too. I'm just saying. You know why that is? Because they're better basketball players, than other black players or other white players or other Hispanic players. So when you have professional athletics, you do. Americans don't want woke. Americans want, the best athletes on the floor, so they can watch them play their sport or the ice.

>> Ed Vitagliano: In this case, on the. Or on the ice or on the ice. There have been, and there are black players in the National Hockey League, and teams don't care what color their skin is. If they can, if they can produce for the team and be a good player, they'll. They'll sign them.

The NFL has been doing social messages at the end of the game

>> Tim Wildmon: And I would argue teams don't care in any professional.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Sport. Collegiate too, for that matter. People don't care what color you are. Can you, are you good at your sport? That's, that's all people care about. So that's why I'M just so. I'm m so tired. I wish the NFL would stop there. Maybe they will now. Ever since George Floyd, they've been doing these social messages at the. In the end zones. A lot of them.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: One of them the other day I saw was in racism. I thought, how ironic. How ironic. We've got 80, 90,000, white people. 80,000, 70,000 white people paying a lot of money to make millionaires of 80, 90% black athletes on the field. And you've got a message saying in racism in your end zone. You see the irony there?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And I would say that real racists aren't going to be influenced by end racism in the end zone.

>> Tim Wildmon: I know, and that's.

>> Ed Vitagliano: To me, that's pandering. It's a miscalculation, a misunderstanding of human nature. And if you think that kind of a message is going to change anybody's mind, when their heart is already hardened against another group of people because of the color of their skin, you're dreaming.

>> Tim Wildmon: But in races, the words end racism in the end zone supposed. Also one of the ones we're in. it takes all of us. Say what? It takes all of us to do one of the messages. It takes all of us.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

ICE agents are going to Milan to help with security at the Olympics

>> Tim Wildmon: all right, so next story.

>> Steve Jordahl: I'm staying with the Olympics. did you know that ICE agents are going to be in, Milan?

>> Tim Wildmon: Why is that? You mean American Ice Ageland Security. They should not be.

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, they're going to support us Delegation security. They're going to vet threats, and they're going to, mitigate transnational crime while they're there.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is that part of their job then?

>> Steve Jordahl: Yes. security.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Are you serious? ICE agents are going to be there?

>> Steve Jordahl: Yes. And already the politicians have been protesting with the ICE outside.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I thought this was a joke.

>> Steve Jordahl: No, it's not.

>> Tim Wildmon: So I, Okay, but they got a different role. They're not going over there to.

>> Steve Jordahl: No, they're not.

>> Tim Wildmon: People here in the US Illegally at.

>> Steve Jordahl: The Olympics, they're going over there to help provide security. President, vice president, who's our vice president is.

>> Tim Wildmon: J.D.

>> Steve Jordahl: Vance is going to be there, and Christy Noemi, I think, is going over there as well. And so.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, I'm reading this that you. That you have here. This, so they are part of Homeland Security. Yes, ICE is. So it looks, from what I'm reading this that you, handed me, it looks like they are going to be helping Homeland Security with protecting US Athletes. Right, right. And.

>> Steve Jordahl: And officials.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And officials.

>> Steve Jordahl: So.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So they're not going to be. They're not going to be finding people who are in Italy illegally and then removing them.

All right, what's your favorite Winter Olympic sport?

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, guys, what's your favorite Winter Olympic sport?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, you guys know mine.

>> Tim Wildmon: is it hockey? What's your second one then, by the way? Who's going to win? Who would. Who would be favored to win?

>> Steve Jordahl: The.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is Russia allowed to be in these games?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I, you know what? I, I think Russia's participating, but I, I. Will you look that up while, if Russia is going to be in the, the Olympics, it's going to be hard to beat Canada. Canada's team.

>> Tim Wildmon: Loaded.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Loaded. U. S. Will have a good team. I'm not sure that. You know, Finland and Sweden usually have very good teams, so. But for Canada to lose, it would be an upset.

>> Steve Jordahl: Russia will not compete as a country in 2026. And Molina? Milan Cortina, suspended following the 2022 invasion of Ukraine. Okay, so they're not going to be, you know. Who will be there, though? Maybe. Props to Lindsey Vaughn. Lindsey Vaughn, the, skater. The skier, downhill skier for the United States. She was in a fairly Serious accident on 30 January. Injured her left knee, but she says she's not out of the games yet.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You were asking me my second favorite. I do like speed skating. I don't like the, What do you call it with the. The man and the woman with the, ice dancing. Ice dancing.

>> Tim Wildmon: The couples. Yeah, they skate around the rink. And he holds her up.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And then throws her around.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, the Nancy Kerrigan stuff.

>> Steve Jordahl: Ice skating is what. That's.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So I do like speed and I like downhill ski. Skiing. I like that. Yeah, I like watching that.

>> Steve Jordahl: Bobsled's fun, too. Did you see they had a bobsled race where everybody bobsled? And three, of the guys didn't make the, they missed the. They fell out of the. The bobsled. One guy ended up going down the thing all by himself.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I do like bobsledding. Yeah, that, that's always a good sport.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Watch.

>> Tim Wildmon: So I'm really disappointed. Nobody here likes the luge.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, yeah, I've heard. What is the luge?

>> Steve Jordahl: Luge is a single man sled where you go down in your stomach.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I got my sports mixed up then. What's the, shuffleboard on ice?

>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, that's, Curling.

>> Ed Vitagliano: curling.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, the curling.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. I don't,

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, man. You gotta understand the rules of curling, though, okay. To really get into it, you Know what I'm saying?

>> Ed Vitagliano: This is a side of you I never, never knew existed. Tell me.

>> Tim Wildmon: This is. Well, this interest, it's. It goes back to my childhood.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: I've been interested in curling ever since I was eight. Watching. Watching the Winter Olympics.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. I am going to be bringing you an Olympic update every. Every day next week, in the week following.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, good.

>> Tim Wildmon: I tried to get a curling team here.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Ah, Here in Mississippi.

>> Tim Wildmon: Tupelo. yeah, high school. And, I was the only one interested. But this was late 70s, so it was. It was. It was. It was before the curling rage took over.

My wife wants me to be in curling because it's the only way

>> Steve Jordahl: My wife wants me to be in curling because it's the only way she gave me to hold a broom.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The only. The closest I ever got to curling when I was in high school was that little game with the. The triangle football where you slide it across the table. you remember, try to get it to hang.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, the paper. Paper football. Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And then if you got a touchdown, you did the little.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Back in the day.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Extra point.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, that was for football.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Those were the days we had a league. We actually kept standings and standings for paper.

>> Tim Wildmon: Football.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Football. Man, we've been wasting some time for those.

>> Tim Wildmon: I just. We're Our. Our time is almost here. Usually. curling. Fans, it's your day.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The world's catching on.

>> Tim Wildmon: Another week. I can't wait to watch our team.

>> Ed Vitagliano: To the excitement of curling.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we'll be back tomorrow. Have a great day, everybody.