Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildman
>> Steve Jordahl: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back everybody, to Today's Issues on American Family Radio. Tim, Fred and Ray. Ray's in Florida, we're in Mississippi, and, Steve Paisley Jordah is in like in three feet from me.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: How you doing, brother Steve?
>> Steve Jordahl: I am well, thank you very much.
>> Tim Wildmon: So, lot going on in our world. We didn't. We got to three or four stories that are in the news last hour and, wanted to, We got some big stories to talk about with Steve. Steve. But m. I wanted to talk about that first story.
A federal judge in Louisiana released four illegal immigrants with lengthy rap sheets
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, a federal judge in Louisiana has released four illegal immigrants, all of them with lengthy rap sheets that include convictions for murder and child sex crimes. The judge's name is John de Gravelas and he's an Obama appointee. And he released them because they've been held too long and there's no imminent likelihood at, their home countries, Cuba and Ethiopia, taking them back. Let me give you a quote. This is what the judge said about releasing them. Petitioners, the four criminals are currently detained in violation of their constitutional rights. Further, they have been detained with no opportunity to arrange for care for the dependents, their pets, homes or the, court can only assume that bills have gone unpaid, jobs may have been lost, petitioners may have been released into the housing and food instability, all because of the government unlawfully detained them. I don't know what was.
>> Tim Wildmon: Separate. The end of his quote from your commentary, please.
>> Steve Jordahl: My. The less. Okay, the court can only assume that the bills have gone unpaid, jobs may have been lost, and petitioners may be released into housing and food instability, all because the government unlawfully detained them. Close quote.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, now you're commenting.
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't know what was unlawful about their detained, detention. They are, they have, they have, removal orders.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you can't hold people forever without, some sort of movement constitute, legally.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, yes, but all they had to do, was,
>> Tim Wildmon: But they're illegal. They are illegal and they're illegal immigrants who've committed crimes. And the federal judge let them go. Do you know if he just released them into the general population? Go home.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's what it looks like.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's where I should be waiting at the door.
>> Steve Jordahl: And in Louisiana, they probably wouldn't have any of the same craziness that was following ice in Mrs. In Minnesota.
>> Tim Wildmon: So I don't know, it seemed like to me, we'll see what happens here. But seemed like, to me, this is a perfect, case where ICE should be involved. Fred, if. If. If we're looking for violent criminals who.
>> Fred Jackson: Are here in this place, I'm. I'm just aghast at the reasoning of the judge. He was worried about their pets being fed.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that's what you call a bleeding heart, Fred. That's where it comes from.
>> Fred Jackson: You know? So now if. If you commit a violent crime in Louisiana and you have to go before this judge. Judge, my cat's at home and nobody's fed.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: Puss in Boots now for, a few days.
>> Tim Wildmon: So this judge. This is a federal judge appointed by President Obama, and he's the one. This made. This. This didn't make national news much. I mean, I didn't see it anywhere. Where did I find that story? Newsweek.
>> Steve Jordahl: this is. I have a, Washington Times article and a Fox News article talking about it. I don't know which one you sent.
>> Tim Wildmon: this is what's wrong with liberalism, though, in my. This is what. And progressivism is. They're soft on crime.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And so. But I don't think we need a fellow judge saying that, somebody who is incarcerated because they've committed an illegal. Excuse me. they committed crimes like. What do you say?
>> Steve Jordahl: Armed robbery, murder. Three of them convicted of. Man of.
>> Steve Jordahl: Let me make sure I get the wording right. Three of them have been convicted of.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wait, convicted?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes. Homicide convictions. And, the fourth is convicted, of sex crimes with minors.
>> Fred Jackson: That.
>> Tim Wildmon: Were you, I'm not saying that you have to do it now or even. But will you try to follow up and find out? Because the question I have is why are they not. Why did they not stay in prison? I know, I know. There's no answer to that right now. The story doesn't tell us exactly, except for what you've already said, but that doesn't seem to make sense. Why you have.
>> Fred Jackson: People.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's written.
>> Tim Wildmon: It would be times you say, I.
>> Steve Jordahl: Have, watching the Time story, the Fox News story. I guess it would be possible that, they had served their time for their sentences, but I don't think so. That's 20, 30 years. That doesn't make sense.
You know, we'll ask Abe Abel. He used to be assistant DA there in New Orleans
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, we'll ask Abe Abel. No.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Abraham Hamilton. No. He used to be assistant DA there in NewSong Orleans. Anyway. All right, next story.
Shooting at British Columbia school leaves 10 dead and 25 injured
>> Steve Jordahl: All right. we want to go back to this horrific, shooting up in British Columbia. And, we're learning more about the shooter. I didn't bring in the audio, but there is A video of this young man that was, where he's clearly in mental distress. and the police had been called several times to his house for help with mental distress. His mother was, I guess she was trying to help him, but by supporting his transgender fixation.
>> Tim Wildmon: So what we have found, what did he do? For those who don't know, he went.
>> Steve Jordahl: Into a former school of his up in a town. And I don't have the store in front of you.
>> Fred Jackson: Tumblr Ridge.
>> Tim Wildmon: Tumblr Ridge, British Columbia.
>> Steve Jordahl: British Columbia. And first of all, he went to his home and he shot his mother and his stepbrother. Murdered them. Then he went to the school and he shot. There's a total of 10 deceased people.
>> Fred Jackson: Those numbers have changed. he shot at least four students, killed them and, one teacher, and injured wounded 25 others.
>> Steve Jordahl: And it wasn't a large school.
>> Tim Wildmon: So originally 10 were reported dead.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes. and now it's been confirmed he was a transgender. We talked a little bit yesterday about the language that was being used by officials. They addressed him as a gun person. And the first description was, the suspect was a woman in a dress, which is really weird. But, yesterday, there was a briefing by the RCMP, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Deputy Commissioner Dwayne McDonald. And listen to how stressed he is about having to describe who this person was. Cut number five.
>> Tim Wildmon: That includes the deceased gun person. We identify the suspect as they chose to be identified in public and in social media. I can say that Jesse was born as a biological male who, approximately the information that I have, approximately six years ago, began to transition to female and identify as female, both socially and, publicly. I can say that she, had a license that had expired, I believe it was in 2024. She did not have any firearms registered, to her.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, they police were called to, the home of the person as being identified. Jesse Vanliere, Roetziller, who died.
>> Tim Wildmon: He committed suicide.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: Self inflicted wound. police, prior to this incident, this horrible incident, were called to the home of this individual, at least on one or two occasions. They had to take weapons from the home. They were called there because of concern of a mental breakdown of some type. So they go in, they, they take the weapons, but then they ended up giving the weapons back, to that individual. So now we have.
>> Tim Wildmon: The individual was a minor, 18 years old. Okay.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So I'm wondering what age you have to have to legally own a gun.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: So 18. Go ahead. Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: But now, just to broaden this out, a Bit.
This is now three mass school shootings carried out by transgenders
We talked a little bit about this in our story meeting this morning. This is now three mass school shootings carried out by transgenders. One in Nashville, one in Minnesota, and now this one in British Columbia. I said this morning to you guys, if the shooters were evangelical Christians.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, wow.
>> Fred Jackson: The mainstream media, the Democrats would go crazy.
>> Tim Wildmon: They would be saying our religion causes us to kill people. Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: And if you Google this story right now from British Columbia, you will find still that most of the mainstream media are refusing to identify this person as a trans.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're trying to protect them.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: They don't want to criticize transgendered.
>> Tim Wildmon: So that's what happened in Nashville. They didn't want to release the manifesto. So yeah, that, that presents a problem for people on the left who believe strongly in that you can, you, you are what you say you are in terms of your gender. So if they acknowledge that possibly. You know, I, was talking to somebody yesterday and they suggested the. If you're given, if you're given these transgendered, minors drugs, the drugs themselves can make them go mentally,
>> Tim Wildmon: Cuckoo. That's especially if you're a girl. Excuse me? Yes, especially if you're a female. Well, I don't know, I'm getting out of my league here. I say especially either way, if you're.
>> Steve Jordahl: A man and they're giving you, hormone. Female hormones. If you're a woman, they're giving you testosterone. That is not.
>> Tim Wildmon: Mess with your head.
>> Steve Jordahl: Absolutely.
>> Tim Wildmon: Not to mention you're already a confused individual. If you suffer, they wouldn't consider themselves suffering. But listen, Ray, this was a, considered a mental, disorder by the, American Psychological association not too long ago until just a few years ago. And then under pressure from the lbdq, whatever lobby, they caved in. But everybody knows this is a mental illness. It's a sickness. It's right. Spiritual terms. It's a demonic takeover of a human life. And for. And for them. What did they call the shooter? They didn't want to call that person. The police were just twisted, you know, they were, they were twisted, verbally on how they were supposed to describe this person. so they called it a gun, a gun person. And it's called a woman in a dress. What does that even mean?
>> Fred Jackson: That, what they said, that was my first cue. and the first day they described the shooter as a woman in a dress.
>> Tim Wildmon: And I thought that's odd.
>> Fred Jackson: I never heard that description from police before on a suspect. A woman in a dress.
>> Steve Jordahl: Not that There hasn't been women in dresses who've done bad things. But why do you bring it up? You listen for odd language. That's the first clue you get something is not good.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. The reason is because the mainstream media and the entertainment industry and a lot of pop culture, pundits, they will, they will come down on you severely. if you misgender somebody by misgendering, I mean if somebody is a biological male and they claim to be a woman or a female and you call them by their man's name, by their original name, then you're going to get hammered. You know, you're going to get. Because you're a bad, you're a, you're a transphobic.
>> Steve Jordahl: I might also point out, Ray, I think you, you mentioned the way that they have kind of gotten around the mental illness part of transgender homosexuality was listed as a mental disorder in the DSM statistical manual of psychologists used back in the 50s and 60s. And it was somewhere around 60s and 70s that they politically shamed psychologists into making it, taking it off of the diseases.
>> Tim Wildmon: Let me ask you this, Fred too being, you know, moving here from Canada, Canada has very strict gun laws, right?
>> Fred Jackson: Very strict. And getting stricter.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you would have thought that those strict gun laws would, would have stopped this young, biological male from committing these atrocities. Well, what happened? Why did the laws break down?
>> Fred Jackson: Well, that, what's amazing is the police were called to the house because of mental problems and they were worried about this person might perpetrate a crime with those guns and they confiscated the guns. So that's what was going on.
>> Tim Wildmon: But they gave the guns back to him.
>> Fred Jackson: But they. Apparently the family went to court because the mom who was murdered by her son was an advocate for the transgenderism.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. That was really disappointing. Your own mom, is for you calling yourself a girl and doing all those things that. But you. So he was getting no help at home in terms. Well, he was getting support for his sin.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: So.
>> Fred Jackson: But we want him to.
Things are changing on the trans front. A couple of weeks ago you had the court decision
Things are changing on the trans front. A couple of weeks ago you had the court decision a two million dollar award to a 22 year old, who took the doctors to court, who.
>> Tim Wildmon: Removed her breast when she was 16.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes. She won $2 million.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Good for her.
>> Fred Jackson: And then the last couple of weeks the the American Medical association in recent days saying, wait a minute, we're going to draw back from this. And so I find it encouraging the so there's been a couple of medical groups now that are saying.
>> Tim Wildmon: We have second thoughts about at least for minors.
>> Fred Jackson: For minors up to, up to the age of 19.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, these people advocating for giving minors, Ray, drugs to trans to be in their transgendered movement, or in the case of this young lady, 16 year old doing a, cosmetic change, I mean removing your breast. A doctor would do that. Now that. Irreversible. Yes, and irreversible. And that doctor, he got sued. Now when the, when the young girl became 22, she said what have I done and what do you do to me? and I regret this. And so the doctor was sued, the hospital was sued and they're paying up. And that'll stop this craziness, at least on that front.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. Listen to what the American Medical association said. Acknowledge that there is insufficient evidence to continue supporting surgical interventions on minors under the banner of gender affirming care.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: Big change attitude.
>> Tim Wildmon: here's what you're going to hear from the people who are proponents of 13 year olds who say they want to transition from one sex to another. Here's what they're going to tell you. If you don't let that child do that, then they're more likely to commit suicide. Now people commit suicide for different reasons, but that's the threat that they use to a parent who maybe has no convictions one way or another. But they go, what do I do?
>> Steve Jordahl: None of that's backed up by data, by the way.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right, right. Yeah. You don't have to back it up by data. You just make that claim that I just made and it's supposed to stand along without being scrutinized. And if you scrutinize it, then you're a hater. Then what parent are. You're a bully.
>> Steve Jordahl: Coming from a medical authority. It's going to shake a parent if they say you have to do this or a child is likely to kill himself.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. And then if your kid does you, you're going to think you caused it. all right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio.
Democrats are now criticizing the Trump administration for releasing documents related to Epstein
Next story.
>> Steve Jordahl: Attorney General Pam Bondi went to Capitol Hill yesterday. Yes, she did. She was at the House Judiciary Committee.
>> Tim Wildmon: Little wallflower.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, I tell you. Yeah, this turned into. There is Congressional hearings are becoming more and more like circuses. They brought in several victims of this was all about Jeffrey Epstein and the release of the Epstein documents.
>> Tim Wildmon: I would say more and more like.
>> Steve Jordahl: Wwe, but yeah, well that's true. They brought in a bunch of the victim who stood up in the back and just kind, of made themselves so the Democrats were all over. It's interesting that the Democrats are now criticizing the Trump administration for releasing documents. They were calling for the release of documents for years and years, and now they think they've gone too far. I want you to hear. Because Pam Bondi was having none of it. This is Pam Bondi. We're going to hear her, having a discussion with Thomas Massie, with, Pramala, Jayapal, with Gerald Nadler and with Jamie Raskin. And in order. That's, what you're going to hear here. Cut three.
>> Tim Wildmon: Made this massive failure and released the victims names.
>> Steve Jordahl: Are you able to track who it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Was that obscured Les Wexner's name?
>> Pam Bondi: We corrected that within 40 minutes. You're acting like everybody's trying to cover up Wexner's name.
>> Tim Wildmon: Reclaiming. Reclaiming my time.
>> Pam Bondi: I'm going to answer this question.
>> Tim Wildmon: Reclaiming my time.
>> Pam Bondi: This guy has Trump derangement syndrome. He needs to. You're a failed politician. Did you ask me, Garland, that the last four years? Did you talk about Epstein?
>> Steve Jordahl: I am reclaiming my time.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm glad you're asking about Merrick, Garland. This is bigger than Watergate.
>> Pam Bondi: When I don't answer your question, may I answer?
>> Fred Jackson: Attorney General can respond.
>> Pam Bondi: I find it interesting that she keeps going after President Trump, the greatest president in American history. And if they could maintain their composure. This isn't a circus. This is a hearing. Reclaiming my time. And when I will claim my time. I'm not going to get in the gutter for her theatrics.
>> Steve Jordahl: How many of Epstein's coconspirators have you indicted? How many perpetrators are you even investigating?
>> Tim Wildmon: You can let her filibuster all day long, but not on our watch. Not on our time. No way. And I told you about that Attorney General before you started.
>> Pam Bondi: You don't tell me.
>> Steve Jordahl: I did tell you because we saw.
>> Tim Wildmon: What you did in the Senate. Lawyer.
>> Pam Bondi: Not even a lawyer.
>> Steve Jordahl: Mitty will be washed up.
>> Tim Wildmon: Loser.
>> Steve Jordahl: Lawyer. Not even a lawyer. Whoa.
>> Tim Wildmon: You don't tell me anything. All right, well, we're gonna break for lunch now. Wow. Little fireworks going on there. Like Pam Bondi's got both her six shooters out up there.
>> Fred Jackson: I tell you what.
>> Tim Wildmon: Attorney General of the United States, Pam Bondi, she was ready for bear. Loaded for bear right there. And there were a few grizzlies coming at her. we didn't get to hear. Listen, what she's. I think the Democrats should sit this one out because they had four years of Joe Biden in the White House and they had a Democrat appointed Attorney General, Merrick Garland. This is what Pam Bondi was talking about right there in the middle of those fireworks. If, the Democrats wanted anybody indicted for crimes in the Epstein situation, the Democrats could have demanded that Merrick Garland do what Pambandi has done now ultimately, and that is release all the Epstein files to the public. All of them. The Epstein files to the public. And then. But they didn't do that. So this what I mean by sit this one out. Now they're just being opportunist. Okay? Now they're just. When they, when they, when the Epstein files were released by the Trump administration, now the Democrats want something done about something. They could have done something about themselves had they wanted to, but they didn't want to. They didn't care enough. But now they do since, Trump administration has really. They want something done to try to make President Trump and the Trump administration look bad. And it's just. I don't think it's going to work. but those are some fireworks there.
I don't like the way that our politics have become so coarse
Listen, I know I'm, I've mentioned this before. I don't like the way that our politics have become so coarse and so I don't like that shout match right there. I, mean, yes. Do I cheer on Pam Bondi? For the most part, because she's on, she's on the team. I like, I still don't like the lack of decorum, the lack of. I just don't like. I think for a congressional hearing, you need to have more stability again. I know I'm hearkening back to maybe a different time and era, but, today is just so, I don't know. How do you think about. What do you think about what I've just said there?
>> Fred Jackson: Well, going back to our brother Ed and what he has said many times, we are an extremely divided country.
>> Tim Wildmon: We are.
>> Fred Jackson: The Democratic Party is moving further and further and further to the left.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right?
>> Fred Jackson: so the divide, the divide between the two is so great now that you have, you know, on so many cases, now that you have the. We have a Communist mayor in NewSong York City. Just this past week in NewSong Jersey, they, the Democrats in a Democratic primary voted in a person who has accused Israel of genocide. You have aoc, you have Bernie Sanders. So you've got this huge divide. Now. The Democrats are helped by the mainstream media because the mainstream media, for the most part, are radical socialists and the reporters. So that's why you're having this kind of uprising that occurs on, these hearings because they're covered by the mainstream media, and it's all about Gotcha now.
Did she say that President Trump was the greatest president in history
>> Tim Wildmon: Did she say that President Trump was the greatest president in history?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes, she did.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, she did. She's gonna get a promotion.
>> Steve Jordahl: Where do you go from attorney?
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know how you get promoted from. she may bump. Right m. I don't know. He may bump bands out.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, after she's through with this job. Yeah, she's up for Judge Judy's job.
>> Tim Wildmon: She'll get it.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes, probably.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah. And then she went, right from the Trump playbook by calling Thomas Massie, quote, a fail politician.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's right, yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who else has said that about Thomas Massey? Her boss. listen, Thomas Massey's from Kentucky, and, his career has been excellent. I don't know while this. What's happened in the last year or two between him and Trump, but his career, there as a representative in Kentucky has been admirable from a conservative point of view. We will be back tomorrow with trivia Friday, everybody. We'll see you then, you fail listeners.