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>> Tim Wildmon: Welcome to Today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association. Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR. Today's Wednesday, February 11, 2026, in case you were wondering. All right. Joining me in studio today is Ed Battagliano. Good morning, Brother Ed.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Good morning, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wesley Wildmon. Good morning.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Good morning, Wesley.
>> Tim Wildmon: And good morning to you, Fred.
>> Fred Jackson: Good morning to you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Fred Jackson, our news director here.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Got three days before Valentine's Day. Gentlemen, I'm just, just, giving a little bit of, friendly advice.
>> Tim Wildmon: What would you say we do?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Take care of business.
>> Tim Wildmon: Take care of, like, Elvis?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, TCO or, Bachman Turner Overdrive. Taking care of business.
>> Tim Wildmon: Either one. I've, already taken care of that, Wesley.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: That'S, non committal.
>> Wesley Wildmon: You know, it's just. It's very art. Mine and Chelsea's relationship is pretty similar or maybe similar to others. It's what do you want? What do I want? And then at the end of that, you get what you want, I get what I want.
>> Tim Wildmon: The next thing you know, you're at Cane's buying chicken.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Chicken.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Or Wesley's chant. In Wesley's case.
>> Wesley Wildmon: He gets a pizza, she gets Mount Fuji or Mexico or Japanese or whatever.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Hey, I do want to say I appreciate the opportunity to take point yesterday. I want to emphasize that because I've slid three people down now. I mean, yesterday, in today's issues, dad was a little late stepping in, so I took point, really. And then I went to his left, and now I'm further to his left. Thanks, Ed. I felt good. I had a moment there.
>> Tim Wildmon: He was coach, listen, that's great.
Tim: Well, someone born in the year 2000 turns 26 this year
Today's issues, and now eventually back over here.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Eventually, it'll be all you in the corner.
>> Tim Wildmon: We are all equal. Knives of God.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes, sir.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's really what matters.
>> Wesley Wildmon: when you say it takes all four of us, a fourth Birthday brain. A fourth of brain. I don't always feel that's the case sometimes because y' all start talking about things in the 60s and the 70s, and I just have to sit back.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And that's just one day. It'll be you talking about the good old days.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: The 2000s.
>> Tim Wildmon: yeah. Well, you wake up and. And you. And you're looking back going, wait a minute. You're telling me nobody knows singer is anymore.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I was driving through town the other day and realizing just how many roads, how even minor highways that they've built through the town Tupelo that we live or around. That wasn't there 15 years ago.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: it was just a field, kind.
>> Tim Wildmon: Of like life's highway. Wesley.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's it.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I mean, this way I look at it, someone born in the year 2000 turns 26 this year. 20. So 2000. Y2K, Tim, is 26 years ago.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'll tell you, Fred, and you can comment on this because I think you're the elder statesman in the group, but, I tell you what, when you vividly remember the bicentennial, and we're at 250 now, and you're going, wait a minute. 50 years have passed by.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I graduated that year. 1976.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: From high school.
>> Tim Wildmon: So. But. But you're saying to me half the centuries pass since, Since 1976, that glorious year.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Do you need to say that? I do need to show my appreciation for y' all doing that. Otherwise there's a lot of things I wouldn't know. Like the bicentennial. You've talked about that a couple times since I've joined the program here. And so I've.
>> Tim Wildmon: That was. Ah, Fred's over here with news stories. But we're. We're. Don't get. Okay, don't get us started.
>> Fred Jackson: Down in my mind. I'm going through memory lane.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, you're going through memory lane. Laine. But.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And don't get me started on my big toe and my knee and so.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, me.
Fred: Sweet Caroline Wesley is a classic song from 1970
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, all right. Well, at least most of your generation knows Sweet Caroline Wesley.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. That's. That's a classic.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because they play that a lot of times.
>> Tim Wildmon: Stadium at stadiums. Yes. All right.
>> Fred Jackson: I remember when it was new.
>> Tim Wildmon: We're talking Neil Diamond, 1970. Right.
>> Fred Jackson: Absolutely.
>> Tim Wildmon: I remember right before bell bottoms, I.
>> Fred Jackson: Think it was two and a half, three minutes long. I was a DJ in those days.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh.
>> Fred Jackson: Time was important.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, let's go to the restroom on this song. Right. Hey, Jude, Hey, Jude.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: or Indigada Davida.
>> Fred Jackson: Seven minutes long. Hey, Jude thank you, Lord, for Hey, Jude.
>> Tim Wildmon: If you really want to go home and get lunch, you play Free Bird. Leonard Skynyrd. All right, our. Our American pie. That American pipe. Go the mailbox.
>> Fred Jackson: Don McLean.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Chevy to the levee. Let's go.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're listening to today's issues. Abraham Hamilton III will be with us, a little bit later on in the program. As always, we thank you for listening to afr. What's the first story, Fred?
Federal Aviation Administration reopens airspace over El Paso following cartel drone incident
>> Fred Jackson: Well, we have to update a big story from this morning. you may have. On your way into work, this morning, heard that the airspace over El Paso International Airport was shut, and was going to be shut down for 10 days. And everybody kind of wondered, what's going on? People were arriving at the El Paso airport this morning and catching a Delta flight or American. They were told, those flights are going nowhere. Well, just in the last hour or so, the faa, the Federal Aviation Administration, has reopened the airspace. And we have a statement from Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy. Have a listen to this. He said in a post on X that the FAA and the Defense Department, quote, acted swiftly to address a cartel drone incursion. The threat has been neutralized, and there is no danger to commercial travel in the region. End quote.
>> Ed Vitagliano: listen, the world is pretty dangerous right now. Hopefully, we'll find out a little bit more about this, but we might not. the war, as, it is now being called, may not give us much information, but to me, that sounds like the cartels did this as a warning to the US Because President Trump has been talking about the possibility. I, don't know how realistic this is of the US Attacking cartels in the countries where they operate. Okay. And so maybe the cartels are suggesting with this, sending a message, you do, that we have access with drones to your cities, at least the ones on the borders. on the border. So we might drop some drones on civilians. So, I don't know why else the cartels would be doing this. I mean, they're not collecting information. This is not like Ukraine trying to collect information on the dispersion of Russian troops. what else could they be doing?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I don't.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, just drive on their drone. Wrong, wrong turns.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We turn north instead of south. So it sounds to me like it was a. It's a warning that they have access to America as well.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm having a hard time getting past my image of drones because it sounds. Sounds Almost comical to me. And I, and I know I shouldn't, but my image of Drones is.
>> Fred Jackson: My.
>> Tim Wildmon: 11 year old grandson out in the backyard. You know, hey, watch this.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's a hundred dollar one.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Yeah, but we're talking about highly sophisticated weaponry here.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is that what we're talking about? Yes, I know they're using that in the Ukraine war and Iran's used those before. So those are, those are getting more and more used in warfare. Go ahead.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I've seen some that are used for, farming, to spread, chemicals.
>> Tim Wildmon: Really?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're so big of a crop dust.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Crop duster. So they're going to be, five, six feet wide.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Wesley Wildmon: then be able to pull this, need to pick up, you know, to 100 pound pounds of liquid and spray it. So the drones now, and they vary too because the one you're talking about that Harden has is a $100 drone. Yeah. No cameras, no ability to pick up anything.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We we use Predator drones. Those are pretty big.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're at your house.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, not at our, not at our house.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm so, so there's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All kinds of different drones. And you know, the, the Ukrainians were using drones. Russian tanks had to, they had to start applying sort of cages on top of their tanks.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because the tanks were getting taken out by drones that would hit.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, let me ask you one question about that. Do these drones, these military grade drones you're talking about, do they. I'm sorry for the ignorance. I know some people are going to laugh. Do they land? Are they on a kamikaze mission or do they, are they up, firing the laser down?
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, there may be drones that are able to do that. Not, not drones that can, I mean lasers that can take out tanks, but they're. Yes, these smaller drones, have explosive attached. Explosives attached to them. And this is a kamikaze.
>> Tim Wildmon: The drone is destroyed because it's going to run into the tank.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. And detonates.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's true. But they also have many drones that have far more advanced ability to survey. and they have cameras and they're able to get more intact.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They can launch missiles. Predator drones launch these missiles.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Think about a line of, military planes. You're going to have some that are more.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, you know what? Next time you pay one of your baseball rivals for your youth team, I would employ drone usage at the other team's practice.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's not a bad idea.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm just saying that Might work.
Fred: Somebody's at El Paso airport wondering what happened to their luggage
Next story. Fred, I don't know how this thing, you know, I try to keep everything on track.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. By the way, that story on the El Paso airspace reopening.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Go to afn.net American Family News. We're, we're covering that. And our site is updated, to, also include.
>> Tim Wildmon: Somebody's at the El Paso airport right now going, what happened to my luggage? Well, I'm sorry, sir. A drone carried it off to Mexico.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So this is you trying to get us on the straight and narrow again?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, I am. Next story, Fred.
School shooting in British Columbia leaves 10 dead and 25 injured
>> Fred Jackson: All right, next story. We go to British Columbia, Canada.
>> Tim Wildmon: you lived there, right?
>> Fred Jackson: Yes. Lived in Vancouver for ten years. there was a school shooting and we've heard, course we've had stories about school shootings in this country. Well, this one took place in Tumbler, Ridge, British Columbia, which, if you're familiar with where Vancouver is, goes 600 miles to the northeast up towards the Alberta border. Fairly small community there. School shooting. Ten people left dead.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, my word.
>> Fred Jackson: Eight people at the school, including the police say the rcmp, the police say the shooter. And then two people were, the bodies of two people were found in a home nearby. Believed, to be, connected to all of this. So very tragic day.
>> Tim Wildmon: 10 people.
>> Fred Jackson: That's dead.
>> Ed Vitagliano: 10 people dead and 25 injured. And this article again on AFN is saying two were airlifted to the, hospital with life threatening injuries. So the number could increase.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes, it could.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And the student, they have 100, 175 students, from ages from grades seven to 12, seventh grade to 12th grade.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This is devastating through that school.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Small school.
>> Fred Jackson: It is.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's a fourth of their students.
>> Tim Wildmon: So what happened?
>> Fred Jackson: Well, the details are sketchy right at the moment. the police are not talking about.
>> Tim Wildmon: This was a student that went in. Allegedly.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, here's the description.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Fred Jackson: Of the individual.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Fred Jackson: The description given by the police is a woman in a dress.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, which is weird.
>> Fred Jackson: Which is.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's a strange.
>> Tim Wildmon: A woman like a woman like, not.
>> Ed Vitagliano: A student, female suspect in a dress.
>> Fred Jackson: All right, so there is speculation. No name released, no name released. Speculation. Could it be a transsexual? Those kinds of questions, the answers to those questions will be forthcoming with time.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Someone's going to ask at a press conference, someone's going to ask that.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes. The only reason we bring that up is because there have been in Nashville, back a few years ago, it was a transsexual, I believe in the Minnesota shooting, at the Catholic school in Minnesota.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Same thing.
>> Fred Jackson: Same thing. So you go to that. it was kind of a weird thing for the RCMP to describe it that way.
>> Ed Vitagliano: A female in a dress.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Why would you say that?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, that. That's. That's odd. And no name released.
>> Fred Jackson: No. No.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Why would you say female in a dress? Won't you just say female? Unless they're trying to. Unless. Again, this is speculation at this point, but now if you see pictures of what is supposedly the perpetrator, it looks like a dude in a dress. I mean, that he's a. You, call transsexual, transgendered person. That's what it looks like. did you see it, Wesley?
>> Wesley Wildmon: The image I saw this morning look just like what you just described.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Okay. Well, you know, when it comes to these things, any, mentally, disturbed. Seriously mentally disturbed individual, is capable of. I mean, you know, I don't think there's a profile out there for school shooters. Right. Except that they're there.
>> Wesley Wildmon: They are.
>> Tim Wildmon: Maybe, mentally. They. Well, obviously, they would be mentally, off and. Or demonically possessed or both. I know some people who don't believe in spiritual things go demonically possessed. What are you talking about? I'm talking about the devil inside a person, making them, telling them to do things that are evil and wicked. That's what I'm talking about.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Including shooting up a school.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And in the last couple of years, we have had school shooters that were transgender, so it does. It's not far off.
The Nashville shooter was a transgender woman, not a biological male
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: From, I mean, the thought to come to mind after you see the image of the person that's suggested to be the person that did this.
>> Tim Wildmon: What? Yeah. What I don't like, though, is when the, liberal news media and government officials tried to hide a fact that a per. Like they did in Nashville. We don't want to release this manifesto.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And then we find out it was a transgender, hated white Christian who was messed up in the head, and they hated Christians.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, she's. That one was specific white Christians, but.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, this I hated white. She. She. It was a she. Right. Biological she. No.
>> Ed Vitagliano: in Nashville.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, it was a biological male.
>> Tim Wildmon: There's a dude who said he was a girl.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And he was mad at the Christians because he, He said the Christians weren't accepting of him or something like that. Same thing in Minneapolis, St. Paul area when that took place. Place. So. All right.
>> Fred Jackson: The other part of this story is, ah, Canada is known for extremely strict gun control. And so, once again, you have an improvement. You know, there was an incident just, four or five years ago in Canada. I think 20 people died in that incident.
>> Tim Wildmon: so this person, whoever did the shooting, did not obey the gun laws?
>> Fred Jackson: No. No.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Did I have that wrong?
>> Wesley Wildmon: I wouldn't want to interrupt you until.
>> Tim Wildmon: I confirm, but you got what wrong?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I got it backwards on that. The Nashville.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Aiden Hal from the Nashville shooter. She. It was a she that wanted to be a boy.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah. It was my apology. So. So to correct ourselves, the Nashville shooter. Remember, they didn't want to release a manifesto because they didn't. Huh?
>> Wesley Wildmon: it was leaked a year later.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, it was like. They always release a manifesto. Why are they not releasing it, then? Because they. They wanted to protect the transgendered part of the story. M. They didn't want to make the transgender community look bad, so they. So they don't release the manifesto. Right. so that's what happened there.
Fred Day: Congresswoman asks ICE acting director about controversial Minneapolis operation
Next story, Fred.
>> Fred Jackson: All right, yesterday. Yesterday at, in Washington, D.C. there was a hearing, and the top officials from ICE, immigration, enforcement people, were at a hearing. They were invited there. They accepted the invitation. Obviously, there's been a lot of talk about what's been going on in Minneapolis in particular, and that was the. The reason for. For that. To give them an opportunity as to how the operation. President Trump's operation to arrest mostly violent illegal immigrants. Well, it came time during this hearing that a Democrat had some questions. Sometimes the questions turn into allegations rather than questions.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who's asking the questions of who in this case?
>> Fred Jackson: In this case, it's Democratic Congresswoman La. Monica McIver.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Fred Jackson: All right. She's from NewSong Jersey. You may remember there was an encounter at a detention center in NewSong Jersey back several months ago.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I remember that.
>> Fred Jackson: And she was one of the people who tried to push.
>> Tim Wildmon: She was physically there to confront ice.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so now she gets her chance to ask ICE representatives a question.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And they have to sit there.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes. And the voice you're going to hear is ICE Acting Director Todd Lyons. All right, so this is how that encounter went yesterday. Listen carefully, folks. It's cut number 12.
>> Speaker F: Mr. Lyons, do you consider yourself a religious man?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, ma'.
>> Tim Wildmon: Am.
>> Speaker F: Oh, yes. Okay, well, how do you think judgment Day will work for you with so much blood on your hands?
>> Abraham Hamilton III: I'm not gonna entertain that question.
>> Speaker F: Oh, okay. Of course not. Do you think you're going to hell, Mr. Lyons?
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm not gonna entertain, of course.
>> Speaker H: How many government the gentlelady will suspend. Gentlelady will suspend.
>> Speaker F: Chairman.
>> Speaker H: As I, a gentlelady, will suspend. As I said, the issues we're debating here are important to ones that members feel deeply about.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Thank you.
>> Speaker H: While vigorous disagreement is part of the legislative process, members are reminded that we must adhere to established standards of decorum and debate. The witnesses are here voluntarily. And I will continue remind. Continue to remind members that while oversight is important, aggressively attacking those witnesses personally is inappropriate and not in keeping with the traditions of our committee.
>> Speaker F: Mr. Chairman, I'm just asking a question. You all. You guys are always talking about religion here in the Bible. I mean, it's okay for me to ask a question, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: that was representative, Lamonica McIver. I thought Democrats didn't believe in church and state, and there she is talking about doctrines.
>> Ed Vitagliano: True.
>> Tim Wildmon: That was she. She was there. She was just badgering this poor fella. What's his name? You know his name.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, his name is Todd Lyons. He is the acting director of, ice.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, I say poor fella.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He.
>> Tim Wildmon: He. He's a big boy. He's been. He's.
>> Fred Jackson: They handled themselves well.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, he. He did handle himself well. But, listen, I do believe in accountability for all government agencies. And, and so it's good for ice, the ICE Agency, to come before Congress and answer questions, and, engage and do it publicly so that the American people can see how their government's working. We don't want a secret police. We don't want a gestapo, anything like that's what ICE is called. I don't believe that at all. I'm just telling you what the left calls ice. Now, they're trying to sell that with the broad, general American public. But, I like the way he handled himself right there. And the chairman of the committee brought it back to order. But. But she was a. She was. What did she say? do you believe in hell? What does she say?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Are you a religious person? Because you've got blood on your hands.
>> Tim Wildmon: Blood on your hands, and you're going to hell.
>> Ed Vitagliano: How do you think it'll go on Judgment Day? Blood on your hands. And then she said, do you think you're going to go to hell?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Now, again, I do think in the circumstance, he did the right thing.
You can't have a rational, logical debate with someone like this
But if we're not there. So I'd like to say, what about the blood on the hands of the far left that opened up the border, right? They brought in all the crimes m.
>> Tim Wildmon: Going on because of that and the.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Drugs and the sex trafficking.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But the fact is, you're not going to have a conversation with someone like this Congresswoman she thinks this guy's going to hell because he supports ICE and he supports deporting.
>> Wesley Wildmon: To your point, you can't have a, you can't have a rational, logical debate with someone like this.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Even, even, even if you came on two different ends.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So what I'm saying is he probably handled the best.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. Don't even go down. Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because you're just going to get in an argument with someone whose mind is already made up and they hate you.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's why.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, what if he just said though, she said, are you a religious man?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Nah.
>> Tim Wildmon: What if, what if he said, yeah, he did say. Yes. She said, what about Judgment Day? And he said, well, I'm Hindu. Theology.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, that's a good point. You know that I do wish stuff like that.
>> Tim Wildmon: I've thrown that at her. You know what I'm saying?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm Muslim. Are you?
>> Tim Wildmon: No, I'd say I go with Hindu because you got multiple gods to deal with. You just say, you know, which God you talking about, ma'? Am?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Krishna.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because I got one for every hour.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: and then watch your head spin off.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I love.
>> Wesley Wildmon: We need to be more quick witted, the Christian community.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The good thing, as I mentioned in our story meeting, is that Representative MacGyver probably could defuse a bomb just using a paperclip. Unless I got the wrong MacGyver.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think you got the wrong one. that was lamonica.
>> Wesley Wildmon: She just asking a question.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
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>> Tim Wildmon: To more of, today's issues. Welcome everybody to today's issues on the American family radio network. Fred's here, Ed's here, and Wesley's here. And I'm Tim. And we thank you for listening to American family radio. Abraham Hamilton iii. He is, with us now. Abe is with us now. Abe is, host of the Hamilton Corner. Each afternoon Monday to Monday through Friday from 5 to 6 o' clock Central time on American family radio. Many of you listen to Abe and he also is a constitutional lawyer and, joins us ever so often here on today's issues. Abe, good morning to you.
You worked in the district attorney's office in Houston and New Orleans
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Good morning.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, I want to ask you a question. You have no idea what I'm going to ask. Oh, okay. That rarely happens here on this show. I usually stick with the script. But, I want to ask you a question. This, the story, the biggest story in the country right now is this investigation, into the death of Nancy.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, the disappearance.
>> Tim Wildmon: Excuse me, My apologies, My apologies. I did not mean to say that the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, who. That's been all over the news. That the mother of the 84 year old mother of,
>> Ed Vitagliano: Savannah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Savannah Guthrie, the, Today show host, NBC, I know you not following this as your top story. Probably Avon, but it's all over the news. But the question I had to you. I know you're not a police investigator per se. You worked in the district attorney's office in Houston and NewSong Orleans. But here's my question to you. how long, typically after a person's disappearance does the case run cold where the person is not ever found or at least is deceased for some reason or another? I mean, do you understand my question?
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: what has been your experience in seeing these cases involving disappearance, of people and how long? You know what I'm saying? Can you answer that? go ahead.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yeah. I mean, it varies. You do have the phenomenon of cold cases. unfortunately, in circumstances like this, when you have prolonged, disappearances, it. It sometimes results in a body being recovered at some point.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: which is. Which is a grievous phenomenon.
>> Tim Wildmon: There's a TV show called the First 48 or something like that. You know what I'm talking about? The police.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Seen it and like, like the police are really intentional trying to capture, trying to find out where this person is within the first 48 hours. But then after that it becomes almost.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Statistically it's almost impossible to find them.
>> Tim Wildmon: To find them.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: But it doesn't get easier with time passing. It doesn't get better. The cases don't get better with time passing.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
Do people who commit crimes always have a motive? Usually, yeah
and one other question. Relative in your work and you know you saw a lot of bad guys over your career and law enforcement, which is part of the DA's job. Well, he is the DA's job and I know you weren't DA, you were assistant day. But would you say in the case of a disappearance like this or a in your. Do the people who perpetrate the crimes, do they always have a motive?
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Usually, yeah, usually. I believe I read in this particular case there was a demand for ransom at some point. Is that right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's what they.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, but there's some question about whether it's the kidnapper, you know.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Whether that the demand is coming from the actual kidnapper or somebody taking advantage of the situation to try to score some money, pretending to be, I'm not sure that anybody knows.
>> Tim Wildmon: I guess 90, 90% of the time there's going to be a motive for somebody's actions.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yeah, you usually won't have a kidnapping like this that will be non motivated, just a random act of violence.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you know we all hear of stories where a crime is committed because let's say somebody is has broken into a home and they're trying to rob, they're trying to rob jewelry or whatever their money or whatever the case may be. And then the people who own the home, they come home and find them or confront them and then they get killed or they get, you know what I'm saying? That kind of things does happen, who have heard about those kinds of things and then, then you go, you know, people on drugs, people, you know, I'm saying. Yeah, by people do things that you go, you scratch your head and go. What is, what exactly is your motive? Yeah, right here, with an 84 year old woman in her home at night, in the middle of the night and you come over this person that they're showing on the video, this person comes over to the home with a backpack on, a ski mask on, gloves on, he's prepared to do something and you think it. If he's going in there in the middle of the night and he knows this woman is home by herself, Then he's going to attack her. That's what, that's what a reasonable person would conclude. Right. anyway, we'll see if anything breaks on that story today that I know that they had a, a man detained for questioning that, they released. That is, the, cops released him because he was found not to be involved in the crime.
The SAVE Act requires voter ID in order to register to vote
All right, you're listening to today's issues changing topic here. Talking about the, We've been talking some about the SAVE Act. The Save. Wesley, what does that stand for?
>> Fred Jackson: Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act.
>> Tim Wildmon: There you go. so Fred helped you again to buy much yesterday.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I had it pulled up.
>> Tim Wildmon: What is it, Fred?
>> Fred Jackson: The Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, what is that and why are we following that, Abe?
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yeah, it's a very simple bill that has already passed. The House of Representatives is now in the US Senate, that, that, that requires people to register. In order to register to vote, you have to produce photo id. Then in order to vote, you have to show photo id that that literally is what the bill would require. there are also some provisions concerning the maintenance of voter rolls, but this is something that is popular throughout the entirety of the American electorate and has gained in popularity. from 2018, it was 76% of the American electorate, according to Pew, that supported voter ID as recently as 2025, 83% of the American people support. The American electorate support voter ID. That includes 71% of Democrats and 95% of Republicans. Even when you try to break it down demographically based on ethnicity, 70%, 76% of black voters supported. 82% of Latinos supported it. 85% of white voters support it. It's a non controversial phenomenon. And so as it, like I said in 2025, 83% of the electorate support it.
>> Tim Wildmon: They have.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Okay, they want Democrats saying they won't pass it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Okay, then Chuck Schumer, the leader of the Democrats in the Senate, calls it Jim Crow too. and, and, and why, why are these Democrats in the Senate? why Are they really opposed to this? Or do you think it is genuinely a racist? no.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: How could it be a racist deal when 76% of Black voters want it? You know, like, what are you talking about? It's just an absurd phenomenon. 82% of Latinos want it. It is an effort by Senate Democrats because they recognize the massive migration of people away from blue states. And the way that our constitutional republic, functions is that congressional representation is directly proportional to voters in a state. And so the Democrats recognized that they're hemorrhaging people from states like California and Illinois and NewSong Jersey and all these other. In NewSong York State, and people are moving into red states. If illegal aliens. Let me just say what it is. If illegal aliens are excluded from voting, then the Democrat Party loses, faces the risk of losing a significant percentage of their congressional representation. And that is why they're opposing it. They're using the moniker Jim Crow 2.0 as a ruse, when in actuality they are attempting to protect their congressional representation because of the massive migration that's transpired in America.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ed, go ahead. And then Wesley.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. And you know, one of the arguments that's been used against us, and I've been doing some research on this, because I was hearing that you had to have. That you couldn't use a driver's license to register to vote, and you had to have your birth certificate and a passport. Passports are relatively expensive for people who don't have a lot of cash hanging around. But here's what I found out. You can use a driver's license to register to vote if your state, your state issued driver's license, explicitly indicates U.S. citizenship.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: That's right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And so the blue states. This is. So I got frustrated, once again with the left with, lying and misrepresenting the truth. The problem is that blue states like California do not want to issue driver's licenses that explicitly indicate U.S. citizenship because, they don't. They don't want to require citizenship in.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Order to vote, issue licenses.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So this could easily be solved by every state in the union, okay, Saying you've got to have a driver's license that indicates US Citizenship. Now, you would have to have proof of citizenship in order to get that driver's license. But it is not true what the left has been saying about this.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, sorry to interrupt, Weston, you can go right after me. But I got to say this.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm not going to forget my thoughts.
>> Tim Wildmon: Most of the time on, the loony left. I don't care what they do as long as they keep it to themselves. In other words, California, if you want California, if you want to go to hell in a hand basket, so to speak, vote yourself that way.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, but.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know. Hold on. I got, I understand where. But that's fine if it only affects California, right? Well, I say that's fine. I just want to say that, if it only affects them, that's different consideration. But when they, start getting congressional dis.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, right.
>> Tim Wildmon: By using illegal voters, then that affects everybody. Yeah, that affects us in Mississippi. That affects everybody around the country. When people in California are getting to vote illegally, thus getting. Rep. As Abe just said, to keep representation in the Congress, in the national government.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: So Wesley, go ahead.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Abe, with the percentage. I'm looking at this now too. There's a, There's an article just in the last was yesterday on the White House.gov about these same statistics that you're mentioning. 83% of Americans favor requiring all voters to show up and use a voter ID, 95% Republicans, 71% Democrats and so on. So if the numbers are like they are, what. What is it that, I just don't understand why they, why they continue to use the races as their primary form. They mean in the Democrats use their. That's a primary form to oppose this.
Abe Morris: Democrats say they want better voter ID but don't want SAFE Act
That's a large number of Democrats that support. So where's the. Is this saying that Democrats want better voter ID but they don't want the SAFE Act?
>> Tim Wildmon: Or they're saying that minorities, black people, Hispanics, maybe some whites are too dumb to register, too dumb to know how to.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I understand. But why are they doing that when they're. I guess I'm saying why are they saying it that way? If this, if there's that large of a number, are they winning with that message? That's what I get.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: That's the thing. It's a, it's a, it's a historically predictable terminology that they employ to provoke emotional responses and not logical responses.
>> Wesley Wildmon: But is it going to work, this issue? Is what I'm asking, do you think.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Well, here's the question. Whether or not there will be enough Democrats, they'll pressure their representation in Congress in order to pass it because it's already passed in the House. So we're only talking about the U.S. senate, but Chuck Schumer is saying as leader of the Democrats, that they're not even going to allow it to vote and use the filibuster as a way to keep it from being brought to a vote in the Senate. And he's banking on the fact that Democrats don't care about the issue enough to put pressure on them in the Senate in order to push it vote.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, you just have to say sometimes the answer is obvious and the obvious sometimes need to be stated. I'll say this. If you're opposed to people having to provide identification in order to vote, then you're for cheating. You're first. You're far unaccountability if you don't believe people ought to have to, have to identify who they are as a citizen in order to cast a sacred vote. And you just believe anybody should just be able to walk in and say, I'm so and so and vote. Then you're for. You're for cheating. I'm a little bit surprised, Abe.
Bingo: I'm surprised that Democrats are stalling on this issue
then we want to talk about the. What we, what we're doing on this issue. I'm a little bit surprised that the Democrats are stalling on this because of what Wesley said and what you said. That is the numbers, percentages of Americans across the board support this. So it isn't a controversial issue in that regard. But also, Democrats have primaries, did they not, when they're going against them, each other?
>> Wesley Wildmon: To this degree. To this degree.
>> Tim Wildmon: But what I'm m saying is, if Democrats have primaries, did they not want to know that the people who are voting are legal citizens? You see what I see? Oh, yeah, right there.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yeah. I think what you're highlighting is the divide between the Democrat Party establishment and the Democrat voter to where. Where it's, If you would have probably taken a poll, the Democrat voter probably would have preferred not to just anoint cackling Kamala to replace Joe Biden.
>> Tim Wildmon: All, right. We need to know, folks, you need to know where your senators stand. Maybe you do already. If you got a. If you live in a blue state and you got two blue senators, Democrats, they're probably going to be opposed to this, with possible exception of John Fetterman. And, he's only sane one up there, I think, in, Pennsylvania. Who had ever thought that we'd be saying that two years ago?
>> Ed Vitagliano: By the way, we do have an actual.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah, what do we tell what is so people listening us going, so what can I do?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right. So if you go to afa.net afa.net that you'll see a row of choices at the top. Click on activism. And if you click on activism, you will see the latest AFA insider action alert, which is, asking the Senate to vote to pass the Save America Act. The Save Act. And, so there's a way for you to use that action alert to call your senator and tell them to support and pass the Save America Act. So this is one of the things that AFA does. We make it easy for you to contact your senators and ask them to support it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. And again, what we've run it. What we're running into, folks, is that the House has passed it. But let's just put this way. You Know what? You want to know why there's a divide on party lines in this country, Issues like this. And, and the vast majority, obviously, of Republicans and conservatives, the vast, vast majority, if not almost all, are in favor of people having to have a. Identification, a, ah, photo identification, or at least some kind of identification to prove who you are when you go to vote. That's all. It's very simple. Democrats, they're against that. They don't have a good reason to be against, except for the reasons they mentioned, which are, which are terrible. The reasons why they're opposed to the real reasons. They don't want to tell you about the real reasons. They want to slap racist on it. You slap racist on an issue, the liberal media goes along, they say, we can't question this. The Democrats have declared it's Jim Crow too. It's racist. How dare. And if we question the, legitimacy of that claim, then we ourselves are guilty of racism. You see how this works?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: but back to my question. I understand that being on the emotional side of things that are like 50, 50, amongst the general public.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: But when you've got the numbers like they are 80, 20, 80, 20. I'm just going, I don't know.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Here's, here's my take on that as an explanation. I think the Democratic Party knows they can't lose this issue or they risk losing political power.
>> Tim Wildmon: Bingo.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And I think that they're, that they're fighting on, this is a hill to die on for them.
>> Tim Wildmon: Bingo.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And so, so most people that get polled, you know, survey. Hey, are you for voter id? They're going to go, yeah, absolutely. But the Democrats know that they will lose significant risk losing significant, significant, political power.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Abe, what do you got coming up this afternoon on the Hamilton Corner?
Objection to bad bunny controversy is a declaration that America is not what
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Well, I'm going to be evaluating a couple different things. Ah, I talked a bit yesterday about the real issue with the whole bad bunny thing, and it's not even about diversity and corporation. All that kind of stuff really is a declaration that America is not what America has been. And so people who raise their voices. Objection. To that are objecting to. Stop me if you heard this before. The fundamental transformation of the United States of America into something that she has not been. So I'm going to talk a little bit more about that and some of the things that are related to that, that are unfolding in our society around those types of considerations.
Abe: The language he used in Spanish was inappropriate at the Super Bowl
>> Tim Wildmon: I read where, I think it was m. well, I read where bad bunnies, the, the Rapper slash singer at the halftime show at the Super Bowl. I didn't watch it, and I wouldn't have understood it had I watched it in terms of his, the words in his songs, because I don't understand much Spanish. But Abe, I understand that the lyrics and used in some of the songs were explicit and vulgar, that he used at the Super Bowl. Is that true? Do you know?
>> Abraham Hamilton III: That is correct. I didn't watch it, but.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: You know, y' all know my wife is Puerto Rican. And he's a very profane and vulgar artist. And he displayed that. If you read some of the transcripts, he did what he's known to do in that. Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I'm just saying, you wouldn't have been able to get away with that in English.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: That's right. That's right. He would not have been able to say the things he said.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: On television. Said, ah, those things in English.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. Because the American people, as liberal as America has become morally, you wouldn't be able to get away with that because the advertisers and because, people, would. Would say, that's inappropriate. Completely, totally inappropriate. The language he used in Spanish, had he used it in English for a, audience that includes millions and millions of children. I'm just saying.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: You're right.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, thank you a. Appreciate it, my friend.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Alrighty. Thank you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Good.
Gene Wu said minorities share the same oppressor in a 2024 podcast
It's Abraham Hamilton iii.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I know I wasn't on the show yesterday. Did you guys cover or have we. Have we covered? did you guys hear this? Gene Wu, Democratic Texas state representative. He, it was a 2024 podcast clip, but it resurfaced this month where he said that Latino, African American, Asian and other communities, people of color, quote, share the same oppressor and that we are the majority in this country now with the ability to take over this country to make things fair. Did you guys see this?
>> Tim Wildmon: I did see that. You said this from 2024.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He's.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is he a Democrat U.S. representative?
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, he's a Democrat Texas state Representative. And this was a statement he made in a 2024 podcast. But the clip resurfaced this month and I had never heard it before.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, why are you bringing this up, why this is important?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, because, I'm talking about how the left is constantly saying we need diversity, but what they really mean is we want diverse cultures that are not white to outvote white people and take over. So the talking points for the Democrats are always about unity, but what they really mean is division.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's A good point.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. So I. That was stunning to me that someone said that he did not explicitly say outvote white people, but he said all of us people of color share the same oppressor.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. I didn't say that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, which means white people are the best.
>> Tim Wildmon: Unless you're in the NBA.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, right. Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: In this way, you don't. You don't want to do that because the white oppressor is paying you a lot of money.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Am I right?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Basically, all the minorities join up together to go against the white person, but then put the white person.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is all, this is. Listen, I'm. This is a Christian radio network. This is satanic.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: This, this division that's being pushed, amongst people. Is it to try to. It's, It's. I don't know what the end game is exactly, but it's. Is to try to divide Americans.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: against each other. You see what's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So the country. The country falls.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's called something. What is that, Clive Abe knows all about this stuff.
>> Wesley Wildmon: We're just.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm sorry, the. The Clive, Piven.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's rules for radicals.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Stuff where you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Clive Piven, I think, is the two.
>> Tim Wildmon: People who came up with divide and conquer. Yeah, basically. And so you try to pit people against each other and create chaos.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And they hate Christianity because they hate God. They hate the Republic, which was rooted in. As clear from the Declaration of Independence. And God has created order. They hate Western civilization and they hate capitalism, and they want to create so much chaos.
>> Tim Wildmon: Why do they hate white people so much? Well, there's a lot of white liberals.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because you have to have an enemy. And white civilization, the Western civilization has.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Roots in Europe and closely died to Judeo Christian ideas.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And so you have to have a common enemy. In Nazi Germany, it was the Jews, primarily.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Here, in terms of cultural Marxism, in this country, it is, white people, especially white men and white Christians and white male conservative Christians who are the enemy. So that's why this Gene Wu made this statement about we share the same oppressor.
>> Tim Wildmon: But, they're talking about. There's. I'm just saying there's a. I don't. I. If I were them, I don't know why they want to insist on the word white in the criticisms all the time or their slander. Because there are a lot of white people who are Democrats and liberals on their side. Yeah, they're on their side and they're.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They're.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're dissing them.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, that. Vladimir Lenin. I think I've got this right. Vladimir Lenin famously, said that every revolution needs its, its idiots.
One of those highly rated liberal podcasters said white Christians are cancer
And that. And so that's, that's a. When the communists took over the Soviet Union, they used professors and intellectuals and writers to, to justify the revolution. And then they were the first ones killed afterwards. When Pol, Pot took over Cambodia, they actually killed anyone who wore glasses because they figured they got the glasses because they read a lot. That meant they were intellectuals. And so they used them to foment the revolution. But then they, Yeah, but they got rid of them.
>> Tim Wildmon: these hardcore far lefties, they have a special hatred for us.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Useful idiots was the phrase.
>> Tim Wildmon: White Christians.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I like your version better.
>> Tim Wildmon: But white Christians, they just, they think we're the dearth.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: They don't believe in evil spiritually, but we're evil. Yeah. In their eyes.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Huh?
>> Tim Wildmon: right. I mean, remember that one of those highly rated liberal podcasters of the day said white Christians are cancer?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: On America. Remember that?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. That's like the evangelicals, the leftist version supposedly of Joe Rogan. That's what this woman. And she said that we're cancer.
>> Fred Jackson: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm going, like, where else in the world, in the United States can you cite a whole race of people as being cancerous?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: you know, except white people.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: and you're going like, okay, yeah. I thought we were supposed to be diverse. Supposed to be. The left says tolerant.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, like you said the other day, all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. George Orwell Farm.
>> Tim Wildmon: George.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, yeah.
We cancel you, Fred. We censored you there for the last 20 minutes
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. We're out of time, Fred. Sorry. We censored you there for the last 20 minutes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Cancelled.
>> Tim Wildmon: We cancel you, Fred. We didn't let you speak. I know you had a whole nother stack of stories, but we did get to support some important things. How do people. Where do people go to get their news that we provide?
>> Fred Jackson: Afn.net afn.net all right, we'll be back.
>> Tim Wildmon: With Steve Paisley Jordo, who's a white male. People, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry. But we're bringing on another white male.
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