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A lot of businesses and people from California are leaving and going to Texas

>> Tim Wildmon: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Ed: Hey, welcome back everybody to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. American Family Radio. AFR.net, i'm Tim with Ed. And now Steve Paisley Jordah joins us. Good morning, brother Steve.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: Good morning everybody.

>> Ed: Good weekend for you there, Steve.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: Yeah, we did a lot of driving. Heather and I went up to Nashville to see my 92 year old father for Father's Day and that was nice. Steve, I will tell you, he's doing well for 92.

>> Tim Wildmon: that was a missionary for many years. Right.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: A pastor and a missionary for well, his whole career. and now why'd he move

>> Ed: to Tennessee from Cal? Was he in California?

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: He was, he was one of the exodus. They just.

>> Ed: Oh, really? Is that the reason?

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: He and my mom, ah, along with my sister and brother in law, just got tired of California's government and the COVID really tipped the scale for them. They couldn't go to church.

>> Ed: they were really heavy handed in. I remember Jon MacArthur, that was high profile. Jenna Ellis defended him in court about the COVID restrictions about worship services.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: Yeah. And so they lived through that and they didn't want any more of it. So they.

>> Ed: Okay, well, you know, I was talking to some folks, in the on our trip to Washington D.C. last week, we had some folks from the Dallas area, three couples in fact, from the Dallas, Fort Worth area. And they said that they're just being invaded by Californians. They didn't say it in a critical way. They were just saying, because I joked and said, and I said this before, you know, in three more years Dallas will be in Oklahoma.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed: You know, it's about to cross the Red river up there. I'm exaggerating but I asked somebody how far is it from. It's about an hour and a half or two hours now from the very northern part of what we call Dallas, to Oklahoma. But back to my point, they said what's the increase in population due to A lot of businesses and people from California are leaving and going to Texas. so that's a real thing. And as long as they leave their politics.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: Yeah.

>> Ed: In California, their liberal politics. But a lot of them are leaving

>> Tim Wildmon: because they're like I was going to say, yeah, I think they're conservative and they're tired of the liberal wackiness. So they go somewhere where the people think alike. I'm not saying there's not some leftists leaving.

>> Ed: Nashville's exploding for the very same reason.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: And Florida, by the way, I've got a, story here in front of me that says California Exodus 2.0 with the IPOs of SpaceX and a couple other, tech companies going to be an influx of billions with a B of dollars into upper and middle management in Silicon Valley. Well, and they're not going to want to keep it in California because California is currently talking about, a wealth tax, a billionaires tax, one time 5% excise tax on their net worth. So if you're a manager or an employee. I worked at Silicon Valley and my company went through an IPO and I,

>> Speaker D: I made a killing.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: But I kept it in the form of stocks for a number of years. And so I didn't have any cash. I didn't have any. It was just like a bank account.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: it was not liquid. But this tax would. Well, I didn't have enough money to qualify for the billionaires tax. But this tax is going to tax billionaires on their unrealized income.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, and also their homes and whatever things.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: And we covered a story last week, didn't we, about Seattle, about how Seattle business is just being driven into the ground and being driven out into the suburbs.

>> Ed: So that's Starbucks moving to, moving to Tennessee.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: the headquarters. They're moving some of their headquarters. They're not completely leaving Seattle, but some of the, headquarters are. They're setting up an office in Seattle and

>> Ed: You mean in Tennessee?

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: In Tennessee. and their CEO, Why was his name not, coming to my mind? But he's moving to Florida himself.

>> Ed: Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, even millionaires and billionaires don't, don't like being unfair.

>> Tim Wildmon: Brian Nickel, Starbucks guy that's CEO of Starbucks. Brian Nickel.

>> Ed: Brian.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: Well, good old Brian.

>> Ed: for your thoughts, is his last name

>> Tim Wildmon: Brian Nickel?

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: For your thoughts.

>> Ed: Yeah, Nickel's, a middle name. So. All right.

Joy Reid says she cannot vote for a Democrat who end Israel relationship

Anyway, you wanted to, continue our conversation for just a moment about the, we were discussing anti Semitism in our country and in the world and what's going on and why Israel is in the news all the time now. It's a little tiny country. Yeah, little tiny country. A little dot on the globe.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: Well, let me set this up by giving the counter argument. you're going to hear this from the Democrat side. in fact, this is Joy Reid. I'll just play this and then we can bounce off of this. I have a Couple Joy.

>> Ed: I have no Joy Reid.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: Joyless Reid. And, I have a couple of, clips from Mike Huckabee, who gave a speech, in Israel, and he talks about his relationship with President Trump or President Trump's relationship with Benjamin Netanyahu, and the country of Israel's relationship with God. I know you've covered a little bit about this, but I think it's significant coming from the ambassador to Israel.

>> Ed: So what are we going to hear first? Joy Reid or Huckabee?

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: Re going to hear Joy Reid. Joy Reid is talking with Natasha Coates, on her podcast. It's all she has left anymore. And, she, says that she's not gonna vote Democrat anymore. And this is the reason. Cut five.

>> Speaker E: But for me, the problem is not so much her, it's the party. The Democratic Party is as married to this Israel over everything Israel, no matter what Israel, no matter what they do, no matter how many people they kill. The Democrats are as married to that as the Republicans. And so it would take a really strong Democrat, it would take a Mamdani style, event to get a Democrat to say that they weren't getting down with that. But to me, I, going forward, cannot vote for a Democrat who does not pledge to end this relationship. This relationship needs to end. There's a nuclear, armed, expansionist power. They don't need our money, and they definitely won't get my vote.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: Well, according to Ambassador Mike Huckabee, not so fast as far as official, the relationship between the two countries. he gave a speech to the Jewish News Service. And I didn't put this in for time, but he opened the speech by saying, the very first speech I ever gave as ambassador to Israel under President Trump was to the Jewish News Service. When I woke up this morning and I knew I was coming here, I had to check my Twitter feed because I wanted to make sure that this wasn't the last speech I gave. Because, Trump tends to fire people on X, is what he said. and then he went on to say this about Mike Huckabee and Donald Trump got 13.

>> Speaker F: Americans, whether they understand it or not, need to be grateful to God for the Jewish people and the foundation upon which freedom and the sanctity of the individual was founded by. Because that is what separates our values from the values of totalitarianism and dictatorship. I want no part of that. I like freedom and the heart, the soul. And the genesis of that came from right here in this land. Let us never be apologetic for it. When people Say Israel will be destroyed. I'm thinking they don't understand, do they, that this is not into the hands of any man or any country, or any army or this earth. This land is in the hands of the Creator of the universe. And my confidence in Israel's capacity not only to be here, but to last and to stay is not because we have a great military and because Israel has a great military. It's because all of us have a great God who has made a promise and he will keep that promise.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: This was the second cut. I got them mixed up. The first one we can play in a second, but I'll let you comment on, on that. The one about Trump and, and, Bibi is coming up.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I think that Israel couldn't possibly have a better friend than Mike Huckabee. This is, Mike Huckabee is a fine, strong Christian, has been in government for a long time, fully understands, I think, the geopolitical ramifications of what's going on there. And I like his full throated defense of the concepts of liberty, which many people do, attribute to, the story of Moses and Pharaoh M. That God is the one who oversees the affairs of humanity. And you may be a slave, but you're still made in the image of God.

>> Ed: So you told Donald Trump this?

>> Tim Wildmon: I haven't talked to President Trump in quite a while. In fact, never.

>> Ed: Okay, here's where. Here we go. Get ready.

Mike Huckabee's comments about Israel are at odds with what President Trump said

Incoming emails to Tim, about his comments on Donald Trump. You ready for him? You're going to take them today?

>> Tim Wildmon: taking the emails? No, sir, I'm just kidding.

>> Ed: Okay. I have to preface this because we have people who worship Donald Trump, basically, and if we say anything critical, they hammer us. At least they hammer me. Yeah, I don't know. If you just sort of walk, you just sort of walk the middle, don't you? You don't really get into that, controversy. You just sort of stay neutral.

>> Tim Wildmon: I have at times been critical of the President, but I just go ahead,

>> Ed: I'll just go ahead.

>> Tim Wildmon: Believe it's a talk show and that's what we do.

>> Ed: Listen, I always have to say, I voted for President Trump three times. Three times.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed: And I think generally speaking he's been a very good president, so I have to say all that. But this idea that you can't say anything critical or you're, you're out of

>> Tim Wildmon: line, you're a pawn of the Democratic Party, just.

>> Ed: I get tired of it. Yeah, I get tired of it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Tired.

>> Ed: You know, I get tired here's what President Trump said, and he wasn't joking. This is why what Mike Huckabee is talking about is really kind of at odds with what President Trump said. And President Trump is Mike Huckabee's boss and can fire him. And he better look out because he might do it if he gets too, contrary, makes too much in the news.

>> Speaker D: Right.

>> Ed: President Trump said, quote, without me, there would be no Israel. Now, he said, because no other president was willing to do what I did. I don't know what he's talking about there exactly. Maybe go to war with Iran, I'm not sure. But without me, there would be no Israel. You talk about the height of arrogance. Israel's, been around since 1948. Donald Trump didn't create Israel, and Israel will be here long after Donald Trump's dead and gone. So, that's just. I don't know where this stuff comes from with.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: Well, with him.

>> Tim Wildmon: Can I, Can I just say, I don't think he was talking about the creation of the state of Israel. I think what he was referring to now, I don't know. I mean, I can't. I'm not, his, in his cabinet, so I'm not. But I think the way I took that statement was that without U.S. carrier groups intercepting a lot of those missiles that were fired after they attacked Iran, he said, well, no, I'm, I'm saying this, is my interpretation of it, that without us. Because the US Intercepted a lot of those missiles and drones that were sent by Iran in the aftermath of the war. Three months ago, the start of the war three months ago, Iran fired a lot of missiles, at Israel. The US Intercepted a lot of those. I think what he's saying is that because we stood with Israel, that limited the damage, in Israel, as he typically does. He is overstating the case. I don't think there was any danger that Israel would have ceased to exist without US Intervention. But I think that's what he was referring to, not the creation of Israel.

>> Ed: Also, when he says to Benjamin Netanyahu, I call the shots for you in terms of what you can and can't do. Do you think that was appropriate?

>> Tim Wildmon: No, that was not. And I said this on the air last week, you don't, you don't say those kind of things in public about your allies. Yeah. You don't do that.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: A little bit of that, I think, was him responding to criticism that he was getting that Israel has him on a leash. That's what the left said is that he'll do. And the right that you guys were talking about earlier, that he'll do anything that Israel wants, and he's just a slave to their desire.

>> Tim Wildmon: He does get frustrated at that.

Tim Carney: Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu have a deeply personal relationship

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: Let me play the clip that I wanted to play first, which is my cock could be talking about this relationship between Donald Trump and, Netanyahu. Cut 14. Now, I guess I know there's been

>> Speaker F: an enormous level of anxiety about the relationship between the United States and Israel. it's been one of those weeks where we're all reading things and saying, okay, yeah, here's what I would just ask you to put in large print and underline it. I would say it this way. The one thing that the President has said as consistently as any man has ever said anything is that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon, that Iran will never have enriched uranium, that Iran is not going to be able to continue flowing its support to its proxies, Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis, and that the United States and Israel have an unbreakable bond. And it really is still true today. There is no world leader that the president speaks to more than he does Prime Minister Netanyahu. Theirs is a relationship that is not just as two statesmen. It is deeply personal. Personal to the point that there is a candor between them that is probably unlike his relationship with anyone else. The president says things to people and he says things to the world. But the one thing that I've always heard him say, always, and that I've always watched him do, is that America has an unbreakable bond with the state of Israel.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: Now, his job.

>> Tim Wildmon: That makes me feel good.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: His job is to defend President Trump. Just take that with a grain of salt, you know? So, Tim, that probably you. That's where you think he's coming from. I'm guessing that, Mike Huckabee's job is to defend President Trump, therefore, that's why he said what he said.

>> Ed: I don't know. You know? I just know that if it was anybody else other than Donald Trump who says things like he says that we wouldn't have to do gymnastics to

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: defend it, or we wouldn't be doing the gymnastics.

>> Ed: We wouldn't have to contort ourselves to say, well, I think what he really meant was, But we get that from, And listen, I understand he's been. President Trump talks in hyperbole all the time, but, it's just that, our support for Israel. If President Trump wants to drop expletives at Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel. He needs to do it behind closed doors. people have disagreements all the time behind closed doors. Politicians do, diplomats do, heads of state do that. They don't air it out in public for the world to see. And when he says that, Benjamin Netanyahu has no blank. And it was a vulgar word that I don't even want to use the first letter. no, sense, basically. No judgment. and he just says that out the whole world to see. it puts Benjamin Netanyahu. He's not. Listen, I'm not. People can criticize him for what he does. He's prime minister. But when you call a man out who's your top ally in the world, and you basically pull his pants down in public, and what do you expect him to do? I guess he has to just sit there and take it. Only thing Benjamin Netanyahu said in defense, I mean, in response was, you know, I'm the leader of Israel and I have to defend my homeland. Basically what he was saying was, I can't be just, bullied by Donald Trump to not do this or to do this because he wants to do it. I have to look out for what's in the best interest of my country, Israel. and I would just say this as an aside, and some people may not agree with this. Israel is not looking for a war. I've been there many times. The Israeli people, both Arab and Jews, they want to live in peace. Okay? When they're on the border now in Lebanon, and into Lebanon, fighting these people who are launching rockets into their land, they're exhausted by it. These are brothers and fathers and women serving the military and mothers and daughters. And they're on the ground, they're having to fight these people who want to wipe them off the face of the earth. And, so they don't want to be at war. They're at peace with most of their neighbors. So, I just. So I don't know. I've said everything I want to say there.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, let me just. Let me just add this. One of the things we have applauded President Trump for is that he's always been willing to talk to reporters, that he'll talk to anyone, anywhere, not just in official settings, officially sanctioned interviews. He'll talk on the rope line. He'll talk on the way, you know, to and from the, you know, the helicopter or Air Force One. He's constantly texting, constantly on social media. And so that's not going to change. That's a reflection of his personality. He's always been a talker, likes being around people. And the problem, the downside of that is that you're going to get a lot of comments, a lot of social media commentary that is not vetted, that doesn't really go through any filter. And so the downside is you're going to have to sift through a lot of that language to figure out what it is that President Trump actually believes. I do. Like I loved in fact, what, what Mike Huckabee said in terms of. And I certainly hope that this is true. I think it's true. I don't think Mike Huckabee would lie in order to save his job. I think, he, what he sees is an actual behind the scenes relationship between President Trump, Benjamin Netanyahu that is strong and that America is not going anywhere as an ally of Israel. And I certainly hope that reflects the truth.

>> Ed: But Trump also told Netanyahu, if it wasn't for him, Trump, that Netanyahu would be in jail. Did you see that one?

>> Tim Wildmon: I did not. Yeah, they would be in jail in Israel.

>> Ed: Netanyahu would be in jail. Did you know?

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I know that there is some ongoing investigation.

>> Ed: Oh yeah, he's been investigated for you know, some scandalous things, there. But anyway, we'll see what happens. Hopefully, that our relationship with Israel can, can be, can stay strong.

>> Steve Paisley Jordah: yeah, I, I agree.

One of the things that um, is kind of standing out there, this memorandum of understanding

One of the things that is kind of standing out there, this whole memorandum of understanding that this negotiation with the with the Iranians has put the Iranian people in a little bit of a tough spot. And I say that because I have a, an Iran International News Service article here that quotes, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Sunday that Israel's military operations against Iran had created conditions for the eventual fall of the Islamic Republic and urged Iranians to seize the opportunity to overthrow their government. so he made. He's saying that I, will tell you that in conversations I've had, with ministries inside of Iran. And I'm going to play you a clip from a guy named Hormoz Shariat. He's the president of Iran Alive Ministries. And he said that this memorandum of understanding is creating a little bit of a crisis among Iranian people in Iran. Cut 12.

>> Speaker D: They consider this as a death sentence for them. The government of Iran is not only staying, it's being empowered. It will give the government of Iran the finances. This is Obama deal. They get the money and they will use it for the nuclear bomb and develop another underground nuclear site. From the Iranian government point of view, all they want is to survive. They are hoping that they can, extend this to November. And in November, Trump will lose some of his power, and in two years, he will be gone, and they will start negotiating with a new friend.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well, I. I, think both. It seems as an outsider that both the Trump administration and the Netanyahu administration both, overestimated the ability of that attack three months ago to dislodge the regime because a lot of the top leaders were killed. That was an attempt two levels deep. It was an attempt to decapitate that regime. And it appears that they overestimated the effectiveness of that in leading to a regime change. And now, now we're living with the consequences of that overestimation.

>> Ed: Just as we got to go. We're out of time. But President Trump and Vice President Vance have both said no money's going to

>> Tim Wildmon: them from taxpayer dollars.

>> Ed: Taxpayer dollars. Right. So I take them at their word on that. Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: They need to make sure that's.

>> Ed: And you'd have to have that authorization from Congress, seems to me. So.

>> Speaker F: All,

>> Ed: Right. We're out of time. Thank you for yours. Appreciate you listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. We'll see you here tomorrow.