Today's Issues continues on AFR with Steve Paisley Jordah
>> Jeff Chamblee: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on American Family Radio. Tim, Ed, Wesley. And now, Steve Paisley Jordah. Good morning, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Hey, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes, sir.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wesley, Ed and I. And I think I speak for all three of us. We don't want to talk about Iran.
>> Steve Jordahl: Your what?
>> Tim Wildmon: I said we don't want to talk about Iran no more.
>> Steve Jordahl: What's that? What's Iran?
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what we want to hear.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Let's get him started.
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't know what that means.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That could be counterproductive. He may start explaining it to you.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think that was a song from the 80s, wasn't it? I Ran so Far Away or something. Remember that?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know you don't remember. You were. You and me were. But I just remember that was a pop song from the 70s or 80s, I should say. all right. You're listening to Today's Issues on afr. If we're not going to talk about
>> Ed Vitagliano: Iran, which we're not.
>> Tim Wildmon: Which we're not.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: We've all agreed this half hour. Steve, the floor is yours.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, thank you. I think what we're going to talk about is the Southern Poverty Law Center.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: So yesterday, when, when Congress calls hearings, and, the Southern Property Law center is up at Capitol Hill yesterday and today, and they're talking about the allegations that they are paying these hate groups that they list on their map. They're paying some of them continue the hate because the demand for racism and hate far outpaces the supply. So they need to foment this business. Right? They need. Right.
Brandon Gill accuses pro lifers of being white supremacists over abortion
Well, so yesterday, the president, Brian Fair was in the Senate. Today he's in the House. And I want you to hear this interaction between Texas Congressman Brian, Gill. He is an upcoming superstar young kid. And listen to him talk to Brian Fair, and ask him a question. This is about, ah, abortion. Now, he doesn't raise his voice. He is as calm and cool and collected as the other side of the pillow. But he puts Brian Fair into such a, bind that the Democrats on the panel have to come to his rescue. Listen to cut 16.
>> Pastor Jeff Schreve: Your organization said, that restricting and banning abortion is a tool of the far. That the far right uses to maintain white supremacy. do you believe that pro lifers are white supremacists?
>> Speaker G: I believe that reproductive, liberty is.
>> Pastor Jeff Schreve: No. Do you believe that pro lifers are white supremacists?
>> Speaker G: I will tell you what I believe.
>> Steve Jordahl: If you're asking yes or no.
>> Speaker G: I can't answer that question. Yes or no.
>> Pastor Jeff Schreve: I don't think that pro lifers are white supremacists, do you?
>> Speaker G: what I think is that reproductive, liberty is a right that every woman should enjoy.
>> Pastor Jeff Schreve: How many babies in the United States that are aborted are black? About 40% of abortions nationwide are of black babies. Blacks represent about 13% of the population. Does that sound like something a white supremacist would oppose?
>> Speaker G: what I would say again is that, SPLC supports reproductive.
>> Pastor Jeff Schreve: Calling somebody a white supremacist is a pretty serious charge, isn't it? I mean, I would think you would be able to defend that if your organization says that. You clearly seem unable to.
>> Speaker G: Mr. Gill, I'm not sure why you would think I'm able to do anything.
>> Pastor Jeff Schreve: You're the president of the splc, which labels pro lifers as racists. Well, does your organization just hurl around epithets like that without any justification?
>> Speaker G: Mr. Gill, what we do is.
>> Pastor Jeff Schreve: I'm giving you the opportunity to.
>> Jeff Chamblee: Mr. Chairman, what's he referring to? And can he let, the witness answer the question? This is outrageous.
>> Steve Jordahl: No, it's not the time.
>> Jeff Chamblee: Allow him to speak.
>> Pastor Jeff Schreve: I know you don't.
>> Jeff Chamblee: What are you referring to?
>> Pastor Jeff Schreve: I know you don't like my question.
>> Jeff Chamblee: What are you referring to?
>> Steve Jordahl: Time belongs to the gentleman from Texas. Yeah, by the way, he wasn't stopping him from answering. I just didn't.
>> Tim Wildmon: He couldn't answer.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That was brilliant. That was brilliant.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, they need. They need to find a new spokesperson. Maybe that guy do better in the mail room. Or maybe even a, pr, you know, answering people, donors questions. But he doesn't need to be there.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, I'm thinking anybody that runs up against Brendan Gill might, find themselves better in the mail.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, the reason he was, couldn't answer the questions because it's unanswerable. because if he does answer the question, he's going to disagree with his own, organization, which he's there to defend. So it's unanswerable and it's an indefensible
>> Ed Vitagliano: charge for the SPLC to make. Yes, and he points that out by saying that a, white supremacist would want black babies aborted.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But whites. But pro life people want all babies saved, so therefore they can't be white supremacists. It was brilliant.
>> Tim Wildmon: And, the fellow was trying to work through, in his mind a proper. How do I answer this without disagreeing with my own self.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And he couldn't come up with, a good answer in time.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's what's called being on the horns of a dilemma.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. On the horns of one.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Two horns.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's. That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Horns.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Either way you go, you're getting gored.
>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, listen, what was congressman's name? Who?
>> Steve Jordahl: Brandon Gill.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, he's,
>> Ed Vitagliano: He's only 32 years old, and he is.
>> Steve Jordahl: He's the. He's on the bench. He's a rising superstar.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think he's younger than Wesley.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Is that right, Brandon?
>> Tim Wildmon: 32 years old?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah, sure is.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Sure is.
>> Tim Wildmon: What are you doing with your life?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, you know, since. Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Coaching baseball. Coaching baseball. And this guy's a congressman.
Wesley, your dad just put you on the horns of a dilemma
Does that make you feel good about yourself?
>> Ed Vitagliano: You're doing God's will. That's what you're doing.
>> Steve Jordahl: Wesley, your dad just put you on the horns of a dilemma. I don't.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I want to get back to the horn on.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, hold on just a minute. I don't want anybody emailing me and calling me and say, Tim, is hurting, degrading his son's, life. And I'm. I was only. I was only kidding around. I was only joking you.
>> Wesley Wildmon: But if you want to email him, here's his email.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know you don't give me my email. I would just say everybody should grow where God plants you.
>> Wesley Wildmon: right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You, like bloom where you're planted.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what I was gonna say.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Balloon.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Not balloon. That's what happens if you go to the buffet too often talking about bloom.
>> Tim Wildmon: This an issue of weight. We can just pick with the facts. Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I think all people are beautiful no matter what they want, in their own way.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Wesley, go ahead. The floor is yours.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I want to.
The horns of the dilemma comes from ancient logic and rhetoric rather than bull fighting
I want to get back to the horn thing with the tip of the horn.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, it's the horn.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I've heard the word. Obviously, I hate dilemma, but why would you add anything to just. Hey, it's a dilemma.
>> Tim Wildmon: What is the origin of horn?
>> Steve Jordahl: Of a dilemma? I'm asking.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's a baby boomer expression.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I think it's because horn getting gored by a bull, for example, is painful. Which one are you going to get gored by? So the dilemma is, no matter which answer you give, it's gonna hurt.
>> Wesley Wildmon: How about me help y' all out? We're stuck between a rock and a hard place. Could we just do that one?
>> Tim Wildmon: yeah, but there's. Yeah. How about pick your Poison on this. Go ahead.
>> Steve Jordahl: I have an answer from Chad GPT.
>> Tim Wildmon: Bring it, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Horns of the dilemma comes from the ancient logic and rhetoric rather than from farming or bull fighting. The dilemma comes, from the Greek word that's dilemma. The media, with scholars called this a horned argument. The two alternatives were imagined as the two horns of a bull. Whichever horn you grabbed, you're in trouble.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right there. See?
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's what I said.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's what he said.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And you didn't have to ask Chad GPT. You could have just asked me. I'm smarter. Or as smart. We're going to use it as AI.
>> Tim Wildmon: edgpc.
>> Steve Jordahl: Edgpt. That's what we're going to call it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Whatever. Which was a good automobile, by the way, back in the day.
>> Ed Vitagliano: GPT.
>> Tim Wildmon: Did you. A lot of kids had those back in the day.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I think we need to get back on track.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think we need to get back on track. You're listening to today's issues. We're getting back on track. anyway, you get the idea now, Wesley. The horns of a dilemma.
>> Steve Jordahl: Now.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I get it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. All right, so, Wesley, Eddie, Tim, and now Steve. Steve, back to you.
Southern Baptists are meeting in Orlando, Florida for their annual meeting
>> Steve Jordahl: All right. Southern Baptists are meeting in Orlando, Florida for their annual meeting. This is, where they basically, it's the only time the denomination is actually in. these are independent churches. But for these two days, the SPC is doing, their, They send messengers, what they call messengers, to Orlando, and, they will vote on different, resolutions and do. Do SBC business. Well, they elected a new president. His name is Willie Rice. He is the pastor of Calvary Church in Clearwater, Florida. And, he called me about, 45 minutes ago, about an hour ago now, he called. And, so I had a chance to talk to him, and I wanted to share a little bit of, what he had to say. I asked him what the state of the spc, how he feels it's going, and this is what he had to say. Cut 15.
>> Willie Rice: There have been some stresses in the last decade in SBC life that have created both the appearance and, in some cases, the reality that there were some things that weren't as, grounded as they needed to be. There were concerns messengers had, and I think over the last couple of years that they've sent the message that, you know, the Southern Baptist Convention is not, eroding. we're not equivocating. we are, we're enduring, we're standing. We want to be a people who are Rooted in our conviction and our mission and our message.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's who.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's Willie Rice, the new president of the Southern Baptist Convention.
>> Tim Wildmon: So new. Just elected yesterday. Okay. actually, yeah, the Southern Baptist Convention. they meet annually. They do as a denomination. you're right. They are independent churches, but they're still a denomination.
>> Steve Jordahl: They are voluntary, Cooper. They are denomination, but they voluntarily cooperate. In other words, the Methodist denomination owns the Methodist church buildings and they set pastors will. Almost every other denomination will assign pastors to churches. This is a voluntary cooperation. Either side can terminate the membership at any time.
>> Tim Wildmon: but they meet annually is what I'm saying. is the presidency, do you know, it lasts one or two years or is it annual?
>> Steve Jordahl: It lasts one year, but it's kind of an accepted two year term. In other words, they'll vote again and nobody will run against Willie Rice the second.
>> Tim Wildmon: unless something huge happens. Anyway, so they So he is. Is he considered a, what is he. You know how. He's right. The Southern Baptists have had their differences within themselves over theology and. Well, theology, some sexual and leadership and yeah, other things are, they. Is that all calmed down? Pretty much, yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: And that was. Yeah, he's considered a conservative. conservative and liberal are not the same. I mean there's no liberal. There's not even close to liberal like who we think of a liberal and like Democrat liberal. But he mean in the Southern Baptist. In the Southern Baptist, these are all conservatives. They're all Bible believing pastors. Everybody that's on the tickets and everything, very conservative. But he is m. More theologically conservative. I had a chance to talk to him about. He said, the splc, the erlc, which is the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission. He said, he admitted had not been serving the denomination well over the last years. They've resolved that. They now have that in line. the sex scandal that the Houston Chronicle ginned up. Going to say this because there are. Sex abuse is terrible and it is a problem. And it happens in Southern Baptist churches, but it doesn't happen in Southern Baptist churches any more frequently than it happens in schools or every other way. And it is nowhere near what the Catholic Church went through where they were moving around priests. and so I will say that the sex abuse scandal was weaponized and used against the Southern Baptist Church. They've gone through that. They put some things in place, maybe needed changes in place, but they're past that. So now they are going on it's a new day at the sbc and things are looking up.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's real nice, Clark.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I would say my only comment is, my wife and I have made some serious steps, towards eating healthier. And Willy Rice is a lot better for you than just plain white rice. It's more fiber content.
>> Tim Wildmon: So I. I don't know. I try to keep this show serious.
>> Wesley Wildmon: He had a very positive good thing, guys. and y' all just mean just.
>> Tim Wildmon: He did. He did.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, it was. Let me just say this.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I got you.
>> Tim Wildmon: He brought it.
>> Steve Jordahl: That.
>> Ed Vitagliano: A lot of the. There were some inroads. I think Willie Rice has said this in some of the interviews he's done that, m. In the wake of the George Floyd fiasco, in 2020, there were some attempts. Woke attempts to move the SPC towards a more quote, unquote, progressive kind of direction. But as Steve pointed out, the conservatives seem to have rebounded.
Florida sheriff gives alligator prize to deputy who almost got eaten by alligator
>> Tim Wildmon: all right, so next door, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right. Clearwater, Florida. Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that's just where the pastor was from. You just mentioned.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, no, that's right. this is in St. Charles Parish, Florida.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm sorry, where is that? Do you know?
>> Steve Jordahl: I. It's in.
>> Tim Wildmon: People. You're going to want to listen to this story, even if you didn't.
>> Ed Vitagliano: As opposed to what they.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, even if you've been bored the last five or 10 minutes with what we've talked about.
>> Steve Jordahl: You know what? I'm going to take this back into Louisiana.
>> Ed Vitagliano: it is Louisiana.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's in Louisiana.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's my bad. I told you was in Florida. My bad, Noel.
>> Steve Jordahl: I was also taking.
>> Tim Wildmon: Listen. Listen up, people. Listen to this.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, Sheriff. Great. Champagne in what now?
>> Tim Wildmon: Drinking champagne.
>> Steve Jordahl: Sheriff Greg Champagne.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: Has awarded a prize to one of his deputies who happens to be an alligator.
>> Tim Wildmon: Where's this fellow, the sheriff of.
>> Steve Jordahl: He's sheriff, in Saint. Charles Parish. So there's a gentleman named Victor Rivas who was driving impaired and ran into a bridge and got his car messed up so that he couldn't drive it. The police were chasing him. So instead of just giving up, he jumped off of a little bridge into a swamp, started, running away, and got attacked by an alligator. And so the rest, the deputies had to rescue him from that, at which point they arrested him. So the sheriff has this funny.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ed. Yeah, you're about to laugh. This man almost got ate up by an alligator. You think it's funny?
>> Steve Jordahl: He's fine.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, he's fine.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But, And he's got. Steve's going to tell the rest of the story. But as folks are listening, I want you to consider doing what I'm going to do, okay? Which is the next time my wife and I babysit, I'm going to use this, to. To. As a. Let that be a lesson to you, to my grandchildren.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Don't run from the cops.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You don't run from the cops.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Don't worry about not getting confronted by the cops. That's okay. Just don't run from them.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You'll be out of the cruiser into the.
>> Tim Wildmon: Especially if you're in Louisiana. Jaws of an alligator run through a swamp. So tell us the jail cells more appealing.
>> Steve Jordahl: There is a picture. I'll, give this to Brent to put up on our page. There's a picture of the sheriff giving this alligator, who is decked out in a sheriff's deputy outfit, obviously, AI, but he's giving him a reward and he, The sheriff is. His statement says the alligator was not injured and has since returned to its regular patrol of the swamp.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's hilarious.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, is it funny? It is funny, isn't it?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, what the sheriff did, I, don't think the man almost being eaten by an alligator is funny.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If he had been eaten or even lost, I would not have laughed.
>> Steve Jordahl: He was not seriously injured.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's almost like a biblical thing is what I'm talking about.
>> Tim Wildmon: I agree. I agree.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The Bible does say that, during the day of the Lord, that people will fall into a pit. And when they climb out of a pit, a bear will grab them or they'll lean their hand on a. On a building and a snake will bite.
>> Tim Wildmon: In the Bible, it's in there. Okay. I'll tell you, since you've asked, it's in there somewhere. If it ain't, it ought to be.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm gonna find it. Now that you've questioned. All right, go ahead with the only.
Man in Louisiana trying to escape from cops with alligator gets caught
>> Wesley Wildmon: Would have been more fitting, though, if this would have taken place in what y' all thought had been the state, which would. Florida.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, in Florida, too. But this. They're in Louisiana. So to. To recap, a man in Louisiana was trying to, Let's see his car.
>> Steve Jordahl: He's driving drunk and. Drunk.
>> Tim Wildmon: He was driving drunk, so, That's terrible. And while impaired, say he tried to escape across the swamp because he didn't want the cops to catch him. He was running from the cops.
>> Steve Jordahl: He was.
>> Tim Wildmon: And they jumped in the swamp. An alligator got him. And that's when the, sheriff's deputies caught up with him, right?
>> Steve Jordahl: That's correct.
>> Tim Wildmon: So, Eda.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And since I was questioned, I would like an opportunity to respond.
>> Tim Wildmon: Please do.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Amos. 5:19. When God comes, it will be as though a man fled from a lion only to meet a bear. As though he entered his house and rested his hand on the wall only to have a snake bite him.
>> Tim Wildmon: What does that mean?
>> Ed Vitagliano: It means that you cannot escape God's judgment.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Even if you run. Even if you get away from one punishment.
>> Tim Wildmon: You can run, but you can't hide.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's. That is.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wesley, What I did
>> Steve Jordahl: is that.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Idiom.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Idiom.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Idiom.
>> Tim Wildmon: Idiom. Or an alligator. One of them.
>> Wesley Wildmon: This guy was an idiot.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, he was an idiot. Anyway, he's. He. He's, He went to jail. he was driving drunk. That was his first big mistake. And then. But the. And the alligator. The sheriff, said the alligator was not injured, as Steve said, and returned to his patrol of the swamp. But the funny thing that got my attention was of this was the sheriff's department put a picture up of the, sheriff, giving an award, Deputy of the Year, to the alligator in the uniform. And the alligator has the sheriff's deputy's uniform on. Can you put that on our Today's Issues Facebook page?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now, now, folks should understand that we're having a little fun with this.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So please give this guy's name, this, guy who got. Did some alligator wrestling.
>> Steve Jordahl: His name is Victor Rivas, 40 years old.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And Hector, pray for him because God spared his life.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He needs to reconsider his ways to give his heart to Jesus.
>> Steve Jordahl: He's being held on a $17,000, bond.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So if any of you feel led.
>> Tim Wildmon: He'd rather be. Rather be held by a bond than an alligator mouth right now. Am I right about that?
>> Ed Vitagliano: you're right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Amen.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You're right. You're right.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, five minutes left. Steve, what do you got?
British Coast Guard rescues Alsatian from kayak three miles out
>> Steve Jordahl: All right. hey, Bruce the Alsatian, dog is fine. I know you were worried about him. So Bruce the Alsatian, and his own.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is that a kind of dog, a breed of dog?
>> Steve Jordahl: As a kind of.
>> Tim Wildmon: So we got a dog to establish the facts of the story, right now we got a dog named Bruce who's an Alsatian.
>> Steve Jordahl: Alsatian.
>> Pastor Jeff Schreve: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: And he and his owner were, near the Farne Islands in England. And, they were playing in the. In the ocean. And the owner, which I don't think we have his name, the owner's name, but the Owner put Bruce on a little inflatable, kayak and was. They were playing around, and the kayak got away from the owner and went, out to sea. In fact, three miles out, the dog was.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wow.
>> Steve Jordahl: The dog was trapped on this kayak three miles out the ocean. And so they called the, Coast Guard, whatever the British version of the Coast Guard is, and they went out and they found the dog and they rescued the dog.
>> Tim Wildmon: Amen.
>> Steve Jordahl: The dog will be okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Bruce. Bruce, the dog jumped off of the
>> Steve Jordahl: kayak and tried to. He was a little scared, a little freaked out. So he tried, but they. They grabbed him by the scruff of the neck, dropped him onto the boat, and he's gonna be.
>> Tim Wildmon: I never heard of a dog named Bruce, have y'? All?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, just don't let me down. That's all I'm gonna say.
>> Steve Jordahl: Just don't let me down. Bruce, you had to play Beatles song in my head.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, D. O in that even.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, it is.
>> Tim Wildmon: It only sounds like Bruce.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's not really br. By the way, I didn't know this. An Alsatian is the British word for German shepherd. Really? Yeah, the German shepherd, also known in Britain as an Alsatian.
>> Steve Jordahl: I guess that's because, of course, they wouldn't want to.
>> Tim Wildmon: Germany.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I got to go buy a German shepherd.
>> Tim Wildmon: Imagine watching your pet float out to sea.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh.
>> Tim Wildmon: you know, and at least it was on a, kayak. A kayak. Because otherwise it would have drowned. Probably.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: But three miles out into the sea must have been one of those. What do you call them when.
>> Steve Jordahl: The inflatable, kayak.
>> Tim Wildmon: The undertows, rip kite. Rip tides and everything like that. So if, you're.
>> Steve Jordahl: If you're.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If you love your dog enough to take him. Hm. Along with you when you go into the water, then you don't. You'd be terrified to see him floating.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. But. But the good news is a happy ending to this story. The, what. What amounts to the British Coast Guard three miles out into the ocean and retrieved this dog who was in the kayak.
>> Steve Jordahl: They did indeed.
>> Wesley Wildmon: A long ways reunited. Three miles.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: The kayak floated three miles out into the ocean. I guess the ocean.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So I know dogs well enough that next time this guy goes, hey, hey, come on. Come on, Bruce, we're going.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go get him. Go get him.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Boy. Going to be going, not me.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm not going out in that water.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You remember the last time?
>> Tim Wildmon: Right, Right, right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You lost me.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. So it sounds like to me they were they were both in the kayak.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Maybe at one time he was swimming next to it.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, he put up on the kayak and he was guiding the kayak in the waves. He got away from him.
>> Tim Wildmon: I gotcha.
>> Wesley Wildmon: But we've seen the movies with the dog that talks.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: This will be a good movie where the dog. Where you can hear what the dog's thinking.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You guys ever seen the movie Max? Yeah, it's about a military like.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, I've seen that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
That's a good movie. Yeah, good dog movie. Uh, that's based on a true story
That's a good movie.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's a good dog movie.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, good dog movie. that's based on a true story.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I think, I think you're. I think you're right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
All right. Uh, thank everybody for listening to the show today
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. thank everybody for listening to the show today. Today's issues. The name of this program and you can get it on podcast if you want to at our website. We, we post the podcast every [email protected] afr.net My thanks to Ed and Wesley. Steve, Brent, our producer. Cole, our video man, and Fred, our Canadian.
>> Steve Jordahl: And ah, Jenna.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, you don't forget Jenna.
>> Tim Wildmon: And Jenna, you interrupt her. Jenna, our, American lawyer. We'll be back tomorrow.
