Tim Wildman: Steve Paisley's 16th birthday was Friday
>> Ed Vitagliano: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. I'm Tim with Ed. And now Steve Paisley. Jordan joins us. Although you're wearing a, checkered design shirt.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, Steve. So, you just pull shirts out of the.
>> Tim Wildmon: Out of the, closet, or do you like, consider.
>> Steve Jordahl: I do consider. And I'll tell you the story behind this one. I had forgotten that I was invited to this, but there was. And so I had to get a new outfit. I had to get an outfit. So I was dressed appropriately. But, when I was, going to Hope Church here in Tupelo, I was a Sunday school teacher. And one of the young men that I had the privilege of, teaching was a guy named Nate. And, his parents, are continually still calling me and telling me how much he appreciated my input into his life. I don't. I remember Nate. I know Nate, and he's a great kid. I don't remember being that profoundly, influential on him. I am grateful if I was. But, they had a, ceremony. His 16th birthday was Friday. That ceremony kind, of introducing him to manhood. And he asked all the men who had ever been influential in his life to come and gather. They served us dinner, and we were to give him a charge. You're 16. You're a man now. This is how godly men act, and things that we charge you with. And so, it was a beautiful, beautiful time. I am a. I was always a big fan of Nate, but, and his whole family. and that just was nothing but enhanced on Friday night. But I had to go get something to wear because I was wearing jeans, and I just didn't think that was going to be appropriate. So.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So this is a brand new outfit.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's a brand new outfit.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Looks good.
Sebastian Gorka is one of President Trump's advisors
>> Steve Jordahl: First story, I want to give us a lesson. let, you get a lesson in how to handle the media. That is oftentimes, biase. Sebastian Gorka is one of President, Trump's advisors, and he was in a panel that Politico, the magazine Politico, put together. And, the president's deportation policies came up. And, do you remember Kilmar Abrego, Garcia, the Maryland man, as it were, who had tattoos, on his hand that seemed to represent Ms. 13. Right. And, all this. Well, the political gal you're going to hear is kind of denying that those symbols they didn't say the letter Ms. And 1 3, but they were symbols representing M, M and s and 1 3. that to her, made some difference to Sebastian. It didn't. And I want you to hear him just absolutely level Politico. let's listen to cut 14.
>> Speaker D: A member of AL Qaeda. If you're a member of Al Qaeda, you're a terrorist.
>> Steve Jordahl: How do you know if they're members of these gangs? What I'm saying?
>> Speaker D: You mean the tattoos? Ms. 13 on our knuckles doesn't help it.
>> Steve Jordahl: Those.
>> Speaker D: Do you have tattoos of Al Qaeda?
>> Steve Jordahl: The tattoo I don't want to get into.
>> Speaker D: Of course it's just accidents. That the four symbols represent the letters. this is why Politico is a joke. This is why you are gutter press and fake news. That those four symbols that just happen to comport with the letters Mississippi and the numbers 13 don't in this case represent Ms. 13. You're sitting here live defending a member of Ms. 30. That's why I regret coming here, because this isn't journalism. This is protecting those who hate America. Shame on you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's. That's what they call both barrels.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, he let go. Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Listen, good for him.
>> Tim Wildmon: Did they make up or.
>> Steve Jordahl: No, I think there's, there's not going to be Christmas cards, exchanged.
>> Tim Wildmon: They didn't go out to lunch or anything.
>> Steve Jordahl: I, I had not been reported that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Sebastian Gorka, right?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, he used to be on Fox News all the time. Whatever. Is he still on there or.
>> Steve Jordahl: I, think he, I think he makes it a occasional appearance on Fox News.
>> Tim Wildmon: Didn't he work for President Trump the first term?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes, he did. And I, and I don't know if he's got an official position with the Trump administration. And then Trump 47, certainly still defending.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I think he's a Salem radio and I think he's on Newsmax.
>> Steve Jordahl: He's still Trump fan, though, as policy
>> Ed Vitagliano: fan, so I think so. listen, he's got. That's a great name. Sebastian Gorka.
>> Steve Jordahl: Gorka.
>> Tim Wildmon: By the way, I wasn't here, when the. When did the, splashdown occur? Was it Friday?
>> Steve Jordahl: That would have been, Friday night. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Friday night for the Artemis 2.
>> Steve Jordahl: Artemis 2, yep.
>> Tim Wildmon: they did, you know, they re entered the earth going 25,000 miles an
>> Steve Jordahl: hour, the fastest anybody had ever done it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Did you see that? You see there was video of them inside and one of them was looking out the, like a window or a little portal, and it's nothing but, like, bright white from the Heat on the exterior, of, of that vessel and I forget how hot it was outside of it. But you're good, you're in there and you're looking out and you're, and you, now you're not feeling that heat because you're protected, but you're thinking, man, do not, do not fail. Because you would incinerate if the shielding failed.
>> Steve Jordahl: You want to raise that tension level up a little bit. The reason that they came in so fast was because on a previous test flight, when they came in at the normal rate, the heat shield, a lot of the heat shield was damaged. And so they came in faster. It was going to be hotter, but it was going to be, for less time.
>> Tim Wildmon: They did get a new one though, right?
>> Steve Jordahl: They did get a new one. Completely new heat shield.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. I just want to make sure they didn't use the old one that was damaged.
>> Speaker E: Okay.
Temperatures on Artemis 2 Orion spacecraft reached 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right. So temperatures on the exterior of the Artemis 2 Orion spacecraft during its high speed reentry into Earth's atmosphere reached 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit. You think summer in Mississippi.
>> Tim Wildmon: Let me ask you this question. you got four astron astronauts, right? And you guys said there's a window to look out.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I thought they each have windows.
>> Tim Wildmon: Look out.
>> Steve Jordahl: They do.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so, do you. I'm asking this in all sincerity. Is there, you know, how. When is your, does your face. Did their faces change at all? You know, like gravity forces? Yeah, that kind of thing. Does that affect them or whatever?
>> Steve Jordahl: Affected, I don't know what G forces
>> Tim Wildmon: they faced and probably didn't because if G forces were affecting them at all,
>> Ed Vitagliano: I think that's on acceleration. I think that's, you have most of those kind of G accelerates.
>> Steve Jordahl: Deceleration gives, you G forces as well. They're just in the opposite direction. You're pushed forward in your seat instead of pushed back.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, I was talking about your gums.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, your body goes through whatever.
>> Tim Wildmon: And your cheeks.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I think, you know, I think we're pooling our ignorance at this point.
>> Steve Jordahl: they're not going that fast.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't think I'm going to be quiet and let Ed reset this. I was talking. You know how you see people and their cheeks are going back? Yeah, because they're the G forces of a jet. For example, fighter jetters are roller coaster.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I've seen it on every one of the Mission Impossible.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well, that's what I'm talking about.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Top Gun map.
NASA astronauts successfully landed on the moon this morning
>> Tim Wildmon: I got a question for you guys.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: If you Are an astronaut. Are you looking out the window? Are you looking straight ahead?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm looking out the window.
>> Tim Wildmon: In this 12 minutes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. By the way, they did have multiple windows to look out of the Orion spacecraft. And I'm pretty sure this morning I did see one, video of one of them, one of the men looking out the window. And it's just white out there.
>> Steve Jordahl: From three to four G's is what they experienced. Which means three to four. Your body is three to four times its weight. It feels that's how much water is on you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I tell you what, it's just, I don't have words to describe the technology that goes into accomplishing something. Like they just showed, the world. Yeah, the Artemis 2. And also to be able to time your splashdown perfectly and where you're going to splash down.
>> Steve Jordahl: I brought in the physics of this. Actually, I didn't understand a bit of it. But, I can break that down. We said as much too. We did.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We said you were out last week. Said that. That Tim, if Tim were here, he would have to explain it to us. To not talk about the fact that he almost went for a career in NASA.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, it was that or NBA.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, and my, my back was. So I went. But, but I. Even for NASA, you know. But I don't like to talk about it. Yes, people say we said that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's what we said last week.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because people say, oh, humble. You bragging on yourself. So I'm gonna leave the physics. I'll listen to your physics.
>> Steve Jordahl: The equations were quite impressive.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Don't correct them.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know I'm not gonna correct them.
>> Steve Jordahl: I will tell you this. The captain of the Artemis, the pilot of the Artemis, is a guy named Victor Glover, a very, very outspoken Christian. And they had a little, press conference after they landed down. And this is what he had to say. This is Victor Glover, pilot of the Artemis 2 and, the Cut 2. I wanted to thank God in public. And I want to thank God again because, even bigger than my challenge, trying to describe what we went through, the gratitude of, seeing what we saw, doing what we did and being with who I was with. it's too big to just be in one body.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Too big to be in one body.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, there's four.
>> Steve Jordahl: I think that that refers to the fact there's four of them, that experience it. And they all get to pull their experience. And if you want to talk about it, ask my colleagues as well. Because
>> Tim Wildmon: now this is in preparation for A, so are they going to, they, I mean NASA, are they going to build a station on the moon in three or four years?
>> Steve Jordahl: The plan is that they're going the first one of the next flights. Maybe there's. They do these test flights so that they can check out the equipment to make sure, one of the things they have to do is they have to dock a new spaceship. They're going to be going some like, eventually they want to launch towards Mars from the moon. It's a lot cheaper to launch a rocket off of the moon to get to Mars than it is to launch it off of the Earth. So you put all the pieces up there one at a time and eventually that's what they want to do. So yeah, they're going back to the moon to land on the moon, to put men on the moon, to put a semi permanent base on the moon from which they can launch towards Mars.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, because otherwise really it's the old been there, done that. Right. Because we've already had Apollo missions that landed on the moon, brought back moon dust and moon rocks. Now this Artemis, what they did do was set the record for the length of distance that man had gone in outer space from the Earth
>> Ed Vitagliano: past the moon, past the moon.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Steve Jordahl: The farthest from anybody has ever been from the Earth.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because they went, they circled the moon. True, yes.
>> Steve Jordahl: Slingshot it around it really.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. And so, that, so they, so that was one of the things they were doing. But there's something associated with what they did with what you've just described as going back to the moon in what, two or three years from now?
>> Steve Jordahl: I'll have to look that up.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I have it. It says the plan for a permanent base on the moon.
>> Tim Wildmon: Uh-huh.
>> Ed Vitagliano: announced in March this year involves a $30 billion I'm reading from. This is an AI summary of articles. a $30 billion investment over the next decade is structured in three phases. Phase one through 2028 aims to achieve reliable access to the lunar surface, including the first crewed landing under Artemis 4 in early 2028. Site surveys using rovers and drones and deployment of initial infrastructure. This phase will leverage commercial partners like SpaceX, okay, Elon, Musk and Blue Origin for landings and transport. Phase two will establish surface infrastructure such as power, communications and mobility systems. This is insane. With semiannual crewed landings. Crude, not crude. Ew creu crude. Ew, ew e d. Phase 3 through 2036 targets a permanent sustained human presence, enabling long duration missions and resource utilization like Extracting water and oxygen. The base is intended, Steve, that's what you said, to serve as a stepping stone for future missions to Mars. That just blows my mind, man.
Under President Trump, he wanted another goal that could unite the country
That's amazing.
>> Steve Jordahl: Part of the reason I think we went back, you know, there's a, saying they have for an audacious goal that a country can set. It's a moonshot. Yeah, they call it a moonshot. And that's because it was one of the most audacious, things that the country had ever done to put a man on the moon back in 1969.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We put 12 on there. Eventually five trips.
>> Steve Jordahl: and so, I think under President Trump, he wanted another goal. He wanted a national goal that could unite the country. Ah, as much as can be united. and, but he wants some kind of a goal that's forward looking to repair the damage that he says happened under the previous administrations.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, this is phenomenal. And I am just, I'm not always a fan of science or the medical community. After all the things we've gone through over the last six, seven years and even before that with people who should know better, talking about transgender, lunacy, all that kind of stuff. Okay. But, there are times like this where I'm just blown away by the fact that God has created man in his image, whether those human beings recognize that or not. And that is, that is why we are able to make plans like this and pull this stuff off. It's just, it's, it's mind boggling, this. Listen, that's over 10 years. I hope I'm alive. Say I'm 67. I hopefully, God willing, I'll be alive to see this happen. A base on the moon.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Next story, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, let's go back to NewSong York City. I'd like to, check in with Mayor Mamdani again.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We should have a Mom Donnie. A regular Mom Donnie.
>> Steve Jordahl: Watch. I know.
New York restricts special events while World Cup is going on
Well, and so here's what I want to talk about, because I know you guys have already talked about the grocery stores that are coming. Yeah, we did. So, the NewSong York parks, have adopted a new rule that is restricting any special events while the World cup is going on. This would be between the dates of June 11 and July 19, 2026. Now, one of the dates, obviously between June 11 and July 19, is July 4, which is our 250th anniversary. There is a nice beautiful ball that's going to drop on July 4th. That was supposed to drop, and they say it still will, even though the Meeting. There's. You're not going to issue any permits allowing anybody to gather in Times Square because they don't have enough cops because he has run them out of town. Mandani and previous administrations. So, they are, I'm reading from a statement. To more effectively deploy resources and control overtime costs, the NYPD has recommended that the department deny certain permit applications for new, for new events. However, permits for demonstrations, just in case Black Lives Matter wants to make an appearance, are exempt from the rule. This, I'm reading. For demonstrations will be exempt from the rule.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know how. That's.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know how to pick and choose what cause right. Is eligible for a rally.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: In America. I don't think you can do that. I don't think you'll get away with that. The, But the, Now I do understand, okay. I'm no fan of Zoran. like I said many times, that would be a great name for a superhero. But if your police are stretched covering, multiple World cup events, which, by the way, that's going to be a huge deal for our country. That's. I know people. M. May. Not Many, Americans may not appreciate how big that's. It's the biggest sporting event in the world, and it goes on for weeks. Right. It's soccer. It's. It's what the rest.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know the answer to your question.
>> Tim Wildmon: The rest of the world calls football soccer. Yeah. But it's a big Soccer.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Soccer. Huge. Worldwide.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. And so the world is coming to the US to play in the World Cup. It's basically, quote, the super bowl of soccer. And not just two teams, though. It's. They start out in a tournament. Right?
>> Steve Jordahl: Correct.
>> Tim Wildmon: So, you know, I can understand if you've only got so many resources in a city to give to security for an event, then you may not have security for a number of other resources. I just know in, where we live, for example, and this is true of most cities, municipalities, you, have to get a permit to have a public rally.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. You have to get a permit. you can't, and that's not to prohibit free speech. That's to make sure for public safety. if you're going to be having a rally that's going to be on a street, for example, does that street need to be closed down? and can it be closed down? You know, there. There are other considerations, that you have to. That a mayor, for example, has to consider. I'm not Trying to defend this fellow, but.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, no. And this was at the request of the police, themselves, who say that they can't. They don't feel comfortable covering everything. They are.
>> Tim Wildmon: According to. Yeah, right.
>> Steve Jordahl: According to, the NewSong York Post. As we get the number here, this is the NewSong York Policeman's, benef. What's it called? The Benefits Association. says this is the quote. We're still 6,000 cops short of peak staffing, with hundreds or more leaving the job every month. Police officers are already burdened out by the short staff they experience on a daily basis. Benevolence is the word I was looking for. so they just. They're too stretched thin. But they are so treated so poorly, and so disrespected by the city management that people are leaving in droves.
Former Nebraska senator Ben Sasse diagnosed with terminal prostate cancer
>> Tim Wildmon: you have that Ben Sasse story?
>> Steve Jordahl: I do. I was going to end with that. Ben Sasse is a former United States senator from Nebraska, and he has been diagnosed with terminal, prostate cancer, is metastasized to different parts of his body. and, he has been what I'm calling dying. He has been dying. Well, it's a tough thing to say, but Ben, Seth gave an interview with Ross Douthat at the NewSong York Times, and I want you to hear just a little bit of it. this is Ben Sasse talking about, the final, enemy, death. and this is cut 13.
>> Speaker E: I was, incredibly blessed to be quickly at peace. I kept hearing the Pauline phrase, to live as Christ, to die is gain. and death is terrible. we should never sugarcoat. Is not how things are meant to be. But it is great that death can be called the final enemy. It's an enemy, but it's a final enemy. And there will then no more tears. I believe in the resurrection, and I believe in a restoration of this world. And so I did not, feel great fear about my death. I didn't want the pain I was going through.
>> Tim Wildmon: he is. Ah, that's Ben. Says he's the president. By the way, I may have resigned because of health reasons I'm not sure of. the University of Florida. But he was a former US Senator from Nebraska. yes. So, anyway, he does have cancer
>> Ed Vitagliano: and, pancreatic cancer.
>> Steve Jordahl: Did I get the wrong one? Sorry.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, you did. You said it. Right.
>> Steve Jordahl: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: But you didn't say that he was formerly a senator. Well, no, you did. You didn't say he was the president of the University of Florida. Yeah, but he left. He left The United States Senate Republican. But that's the biblical perspective on life and death, right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I mean, this is. This is the property. perspective on, is from First Corinthians 15, where Paul says that Christ will reign in heaven until he defeats all of his enemies and puts them all under his feet. And the final enemy is death. It's, a reference to the resurrection. The resurrection of Christ, first and foremost, is what Paul is talking about. It's not an easy thing. I was looking at some pictures of the former senator, and apparently this. This stuff is metastasized. It's all. He's got, stuff all over his face.
>> Steve Jordahl: Some of that comes from the medical treatment, maybe.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I was gonna say, I don't know whether it's from the treatments or from the cancer itself, because it is metastasized and spread over his body. So, this is a Christian perspective. This is a brave individual. And, you know, our prayers are with him and his family. but he is facing it courageously. I don't know what else you can say about that. That's courage.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And that's courage that comes from knowing your savior and knowing that God loves you and walks with you through the valley of the shadow of death. And it says, I will fear no evil. That's what David said. So.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. Thank you, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: My pleasure.
>> Tim Wildmon: Thanks to Ed Fred. And see Tim Geglan, who was with us.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And Brent Cooley, our producer. And Cole Greene, our video man.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Video man?
>> Tim Wildmon: Like the Piano man, except he's a video man. Sing us a song. You're the video man.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's a great song.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Piano Man.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. See you tomorrow, buddy.
