Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildman
>> Ed Vitagliano: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your
>> Steve Jordahl: host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim, Eddie, Ray and raised in Kansas City. We be in Tupelo, Mississippi. And Steve, Jordal is three feet from me, four feet from me. Here joining us in studio. Good morning, Steve Paisley. Jordah.
>> Steve Jordahl: Hello, Tim. I had to raise my, my. The camera that taught me that I can because Krish is shorter than I am, so.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah. Here in studio, for those who want you. Krish is shorter than you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. You felt it necessary to make that point?
>> Steve Jordahl: I did. I felt I had to clarify that. Hey, Ray.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey. How you doing, studio?
>> Steve Jordahl: Good, thank you. I'm well.
>> Tim Wildmon: So, we were talking tomato plantings.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: You do any of that?
>> Steve Jordahl: No. I can kill a plant. I, Man, I can, I can kill anything. I have the brownest thumb in the world.
>> Tim Wildmon: The what now? Brown is Brownestown.
>> Steve Jordahl: in the world.
Tipping has gotten out of control, Steve says
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Hey, let's wrap this up. Just quickly. I didn't want to leave this subject before, this tipping.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Situation. we were talking last hour, Papa John's, the, well known pizza company. They're putting on their boxes, a. What is the wording? It says, that, that you're.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That the delivery fee is not a tip.
>> Tim Wildmon: Did you, Ray? Did you. You know what? Do you know anything about this or.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I'm not surprised. Tipping has gotten out of control. Right. everywhere we go, they're asking us to put, to put some extra money in. It's frustrating, but I guess if, if, if I order a pizza and it comes and it's delivered on time and it's hot.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'll give him a couple of extra dollars to say thank you.
>> Tim Wildmon: But I think they're just, yeah, they're just reminding people that the delivery fee is not a tip. Because a lot of people, like you said, Ed, maybe confused that just want to. We're doing a public service announcement.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, well. And my daughter, when she first was working, my, My daughter, one of the hardest working people I know. She started working when she was 15 and worked at a number of places, but she was a server in restaurants and, and she's the one that I used to tip 10%. I just thought growing up that was what you. That was standard. And she said, no, that's not enough. It needs to be 20%. So now I, because she, she explained from the, the worker's perspective. And so now I tip 20%, sometimes more. now what I don't like is kind of like what Ray's talking about. If I go to a place where you order and then you slide down the counter and pick up your food. Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Take out order.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's. Well, this is not even just, no, this isn't like fast food. This is like. I don't want to name the. The restaurant, but there's a. A kind of a Mediterranean style restaurant. And you go and you order, and then they. They prepare your food. You're still standing at the counter, you take out your. Your debit card, and then they turn that thing around and they. And they say, you know, what's your tip now? They used to. They used to just say, you know, like 10%, 15%, 20%. custom, or no, thank you. I've been to restaurants now where they don't have a no, thank you. And I'm not talking about a server coming to your table and delivering your food. I don't care for that. Although I usually give 10% just because I feel guilty. But a lot of people are complaining about that kind of thing.
>> Tim Wildmon: Steve, what's your approach?
>> Steve Jordahl: it used to be that you tipped waiters and waitresses because, you sit there at the table and you have an enjoyable dining experience, or not based on their service. And I can understand that. But it has got the reason. It's gotten out of hand. A lot of people are saying, businesses are now just underpaying their employees and asking me to make up the difference.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't want to make a. Pay your employee pay. The, you know, maybe the driver. Yeah, maybe. But, you know, if it's like, the person at the restaurant you're talking about, they're sliding it down, they're turning it around. If you don't want to pay your employee, you know, enough money, then I think I'm not gonna help.
>> Tim Wildmon: I've heard all, y'. All.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. All right, tell us.
>> Tim Wildmon: We've been the roundtable here.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Tell us what you think.
>> Tim Wildmon: I just have a more charitable spirit.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. Do you? Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: And the three of you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And I'm not judging you. You're. I'm not judging you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Sounds like it, but it feels like it.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm not judging your soul. Okay. I can't do that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, you're not. You're not allowed to do.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead, continue.
Karen: I generally tip, uh, I tip. I usually there's a. You know, custom tip
Well, I tip, I tip. I. I usually there's a. They're custom.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, you can custom tip and I usually tip 11.7.
>> Ed Vitagliano: 11.7, that's just a tip on you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Do you take out your calculator?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I do. Typically, if I get my phone out and do the 11.7 or whatever, the bill. No, I'm just kidding. No, no. now, the thing that the. Turn the, the cash quote. Cash register. Within the cash register anymore, right? Where they. Where they flip the, screen.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Screen around. You put your card on there, but they don't see what you tip, so it really isn't in your face. in other words, I'm staring at you while you tip.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They stare.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know they stare, but they don't see what you punch unless they see which direction on the screen you're.
>> Ed Vitagliano: When you turn that thing back around, I think. Yeah. I've seen him. I've seen him give hand signals to the guy cooking the food. They're not fooling me.
>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, listen, I'm kind of sympathetic with your. With your. Now I'm in a different place in life, you know, I don't have three young kids where I'm scraping for every dollar.
>> Steve Jordahl: True.
>> Tim Wildmon: my wife and I have some, you know, extra money, so I don't really fret about that. I usually tip 15% and 20% sometimes at the table, but 15% if you just walk up. And I'll even tip takeout orders because I just. I feel like there's people back there, you know, need a little help.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now, now, don't get me wrong. I generally tip, Like for example, I mentioned yesterday about my car.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And I had to have it towed to the mechanic because it was dead.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're wanting tips now?
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, no, they weren't, but when the guy. The tow truck guy came, and I have AAA, right. So I tipped him. I gave him 20 bucks.
>> Tim Wildmon: I got you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And I used to say I appreciate your hustle, you know?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That kind of thing. And I. I love. My wife's always saying, that's too much or whatever, but I don't like the turn the screen around thing.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because that means it's not up to me. I get the feeling I gotta do it or I gotta worry about what my food's gonna be like. And, And. And one thing you don't want to do is push an Italian around. Okay, now you got a point. But it. It works in the movies on what
>> Tim Wildmon: happens to people who push Italians around anyway, so. Have you ever flipped the screen back around on them? No, I can't make him flip the screen back around.
>> Ed Vitagliano: My wife Will say, well, just don't do it.
>> Tim Wildmon: And don't do.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I can't. Don't tip. And I go, I can't do that.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Look at. I'm looking at a person. I'm looking at a young person on the counter. It's not there. It's not their fault that the restaurant has this policy. I'm looking at this young person. I go, I'm not going to do that and be a male. Karen.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know.
Steve Blound: Southern Baptist Church had a battle over Biblical authority in 1980s
All right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Steve, what's your first story?
>> Steve Jordahl: In the 1980s, the Southern Baptist Church had a battle within it. It's called the conservative resurgence. And what they were fighting about was the authority of scripture, if scripture is actually the word of God. And this is an example of why it's an important discussion, because I have, I want to introduce you to a lady named Yvette Flunder, who is a pastor at a United Church of Christ church in Oakland, California. And, when you start deciding you know better than God what's in his word, this is what happens. Cut 10.
>> Ray: I'm of the opinion that we need a third testament because the Bible has become problematic. Slaves, obey your masters as you do the Lord. It's a text. Let the women keep silent in the churches, and if they have any questions, let them ask their husbands at home. Now, I'm a believer. My whole heart. I trust God with my whole heart. I wake up in the morning talking to God and God talking to me. But I am completely frustrated with the ways in which the text speaks to the kind of vitriolic God that makes those kinds of things. And people will say, well, it's in the book. And I said, then we need to pour that page out. And they say, well, you can't do it. It's the word of God. I said, no, it's words about God. Come on, now. But is it the word of God? No, it is not the word of God.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, who are we listening to?
>> Steve Jordahl: That's a united, Church of Christ pastor. Her name is Yvette Flunder. And I'm betting, Ray probably doesn't agree with her.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, she evidently feels like she can rip a page out of the Bible because she doesn't like it. So farewell to First Timothy 2. Farewell to First Corinthians 14. What's next? farewell to John 20, the resurrection. I mean, once you start tearing pages out of the word of God, there's always going to be something that Somebody doesn't like because it offends their contemporary sensibilities. Pretty soon you're going to have the Bible on a three by five card because that's all that's left.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, this is right out of Genesis, chapter three, Ray. This is the serpent slithering into the garden, saying, has God said God?
>> Steve Jordahl: Really?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Let me just, Let me just tell you what, what my view. Reverend Flunder, whatever her name was. This is the way I come down on it. Okay. First John, chapter four. The apostle John is talking about himself and the other apostles. He says we are from God. He who knows God listens to us. He who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error. And that woman is in error and she is not from God because the apostle John said that. And so when she says it's not the word of God, she says it is words about God and we're free to tear it out. The apostle John says she is caught up in the spirit of error and is not from God. Okay, that's a. That statement with a big period at the end of it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, my question would be, why are you even at church? Was she at church doing this?
>> Steve Jordahl: it was a convention. it was a denominational meeting.
>> Tim Wildmon: The United Church of Christ. They've gone far left.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, yeah, on there.
>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, they're, they're losing. They're down to 17 members.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Just about them.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, you heard them all right there. It's seriously, they were a, substantial denomination at one time with maybe a million or two people. But I don't, I don't think they have very many now because they don't believe anything anymore. and if you don't, if you don't really have a belief in anything anymore, why go. Right. And you see, she demonstrated there what they've come down to. And that is just tearing, tearing, tearing sheets out of the pages out of the Bible. And again, my question would be, why even go. If you don't believe anything, what do you believe? So. All right, you're listening to today's issues. Enough of, Rev. What?
>> Steve Jordahl: Flunder. Rev.
>> Tim Wildmon: Flounder.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Flounder. Rev. Floundering is more like it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Blunder.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Rev. Blunder.
>> Steve Jordahl: I like that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Rev. Blunder. Next story, Steve.
Amazon pulled a book about migrants from its shelves because of its content
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, I want to talk about another book that's becoming inconvenient, but I want to make it very clear that this is not on the same level as the discussion we had prior. this is not about Biblical, issues at all. But there is a book that Amazon has decided that they don't want on its shelves. It's called the Camp of the Saints, and it was published in 1973, and it was a fiction book about what happens when migrants come and invade a country or a, city.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Europe.
>> Steve Jordahl: Europe. Is that, was that what it was?
>> Ed Vitagliano: The whole, whole continent?
>> Tim Wildmon: do you remember this book?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I, I, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: What was the name of it?
>> Ed Vitagliano: The Camp of the Saints.
>> Tim Wildmon: From, from Where? From what?
>> Ed Vitagliano: 1973 by French author Jean Raspail. I don't know how you probably.
>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, you're saying Amazon has stopped selling it because of the content?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, yeah. A day after NewSong York magazine published a critical article, because Vice President Vance had referred to that book, Amazon decided to pull it from its shelves. It had been doing pretty good business with Amazon. it had been, it had sold roughly 20,000 paperback copies. But, they pulled it because. Let me just read you one of the things.
>> Tim Wildmon: Does Amazon comment on books they do or don't take or they take off? Do they comment or did they just pull it off the, website?
>> Steve Jordahl: They just pulled it off, as far as I know. They just pulled off the website. The, article here that I have doesn't have a comment from them. It just was noticed that they pulled it from the website. Now, one of the comments, this is what it wrote the author Raspe, wrote about these immigrants. the quote from the book is, your universe has no meaning to them. They'll, not try to understand. They'll be tired, they'll be cold, and they will make a fire with. Your beautiful oak door is talking about assimilation. And this is a dystopian novel that talks about immigration taking over and making your, continent, unlivable. And we're actually. See, they might have to move this book from the, fiction to the nonfiction counter.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, especially in Europe. 20 years around, we may not recognize Europe.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And it's unfolding exactly as the author said.
>> Tim Wildmon: So he probably saw it coming or. Well, but it was a novel.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, it's a novel, and so it's, it's fiction. But in, in his novel, the, the, immigrants were coming from India and they were taking boats and just landing en masse and In Europe. In Europe, wherever they could. Wherever they could. And then they, they were not assimilating and were changing the culture dramatically because there was no way for Europeans to stop it from happening because they, they lost their nerve. And so the criticism of it is it's Xenophobic. You. You're afraid of people who are different than you. And, you're racist because you. You're white Europeans and you don't people. The same things we hear now when people are concerned about immigration. And, Anyway, I. I'm. I'm not surprised. This. This book has gone through the same thing, on a number of occasions. Became a bestseller in 2011. and then, people were wanting it banned. It kind of disappears for a while and then comes back, so.
You can buy Mein Kampf on Amazon for $11.99
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, I'm looking. Brent just passed me note. I'm looking at Amazon. Apparently, they've listened because Camp of the Saints, I can buy it for $11.99 on Amazon.
>> Tim Wildmon: Do you have to tip?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, I might have to tip. I was. I was checking because someone put a, there's another book that you can buy on Amazon, which I just verified, which is Mein Kampf. But, the quote was, you could buy that, but you can't buy Camp
>> Tim Wildmon: of the Saints, so you can buy it.
>> Steve Jordahl: it's. It's. It's come back, so you put it back on.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're fake news.
>> Steve Jordahl: I'm fake news. No, I'm not. Not fake. It is revised. It is updated news. It's the latest news.
>> Tim Wildmon: It was on. Off. On again.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's what I'm reading.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You can buy Mein Kampf.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: On. On.
>> Steve Jordahl: yes. Wow.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I. I had a. I had a copy for years and. And started Mein Kampf Come at Hitler. yeah, I mean, his kind of, theory on everything. I bought it when I was a political science major at Bost and, you know, own books on Stalin and stuff like that. And I bought a copy of Mein Kampf and tried reading it. Oh, my goodness, it was so boring. and it was huge. I don't know, four or five hundred pages. Just.
>> Tim Wildmon: He didn't write it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, he wrote it.
>> Ray: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. He wrote it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: When he was in prison.
>> Ed Vitagliano: My pump.
>> Steve Jordahl: He was put in prison by the German government when he was coming up in the twenties. And this.
>> Tim Wildmon: What was his basic, argument there
>> Ed Vitagliano: about the Jews and about the communists and, you know, the suffering of Germany after the Versailles Treaty, ending World War I. All of this, all the stuff we've come to know about him, which I don't guess it's ironic. It's strange. He said everything he believed and everything he wanted to do in this book, and then everyone was like, ah, surely he doesn't mean he's gonna do it.
>> Tim Wildmon: What does that mean in English?
>> Steve Jordahl: My battle Mein Kampf is my struggle. Struggle.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Interesting. All right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Thank you for listening to afr.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, the struggle's real for Hitler now. Tell you that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, Ray, Ed, Steve, and yours truly, Tim. Next story, Steve.
Attorney General Ken Paxton accuses ActBlue of laundering foreign money for elections
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, Attorney General Ken Paxton in Texas is suing a group called Act Blue. ACTBU is a major funder behind a lot of liberal, organizations. They raise money for political fundraising. And Attorney, General Ken Paxton is alleging that they are getting money laundering money from foreign interests and helping influence American elections with foreign money. And so he is.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You said the Southern Poverty Law Center.
>> Steve Jordahl: No. Oh, no, that's a different story.
>> Ed Vitagliano: A different story. Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: This is ActBlue is the name of the group. yeah, so, yeah, I've heard of ActBlue.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's a major political fundraising platform. And Ken Baxson said it is misleading consumers about its unlawful donation process that allow fraudulent and foreign donations to undermine the integrity of our elections. Quote from Ken Paxton's, suit. The radical left has relied on Act Blue as a way to funnel foreign donations and dark money into political campaigns to subvert our laws and compromise the integrity of our elections. So every time you hear a Democrat say, oh, you got to get all the funding that's coming, no, they're doing the same thing, except they're taking money from foreign governments.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So. But that's the accusation. Do we know for a fact that they are taking money from foreign governments?
>> Steve Jordahl: It is a lawsuit that he has filed.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, listen, I don't know about that particular example. I do believe. Ray, we need to let you talk. I do believe foreign governments are pouring money into this country to try to change us and undermine us. What do you think, Ray?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, there's no doubt about that, right? I mean, China has invested millions and billions and Russia has. And bad actors across the world, are doing whatever they can to influence elections and public policy and the media or educational system. Yeah, there's a lot of money coming in from, from bad actors who want to change the very nature of American society,
>> Tim Wildmon: period.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Oh, I think it's. I think it's absolutely happening. you already have George Soros, which is open, society, open foundation. I forget. but these people, they hate America because of what it stands for, because we're. Our country was founded on God. And these are primarily God haters. And they hate everything about what God has created. So they can't stand the fact that Americans don't want, Kids being transitioned because we believe in two sexes, all that kind of stuff. And I think, without sounding like I'm a nutcase, I think it is a Marxist plot that has been underway since, Karl Marx and especially since the rush, the communists take over in Russia and now carried on by China. I just think that they know that for communism to spread, the west has to end in its current form.
>> Tim Wildmon: Next story. Steve.
The Montana Supreme Court has upheld allowing transgender people to update documents
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, let's end here. The Montana Supreme Court has spoken. It has decided that it is okay for people who are transgender to change their birth certificates and their driver's licenses to, to fit their, quote, gender identity.
>> Tim Wildmon: The Supreme Court of Montana, Montana Supreme
>> Steve Jordahl: Court, it upholds the ability of these people who think they're the wrong gender to update their documents. Montana had ruled there was a law there that they said they weren't going to let them do that, that you can't change science, you can't change reality. And, the court said, no, no, you're being. You're being mean.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know. That may continue to go beyond the Supreme Court of Montana, but, you know, to a federal court, perhaps. Who knows?
>> Steve Jordahl: If they're going to appeal this particular case, it would have to go to the US Supreme Court. From the Supreme Court.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm not a big fan of that kind of thing. I think.
>> Steve Jordahl: Of the suits, you mean.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I think you could. State Supreme Court is ruled. They need to change the Supreme Court in Montana. But, that's kind of nuts that they believe that if a guy says, the male says that, hey, I'm going to prison. Yeah, right. I think I, I'm feeling like a girl today, so I don't want to go the male prison. I'd rather go in with all the girls. That's what they're saying is acceptable. Right.
>> Steve Jordahl: They're not talking in terms of prisons in this particular story. Montana.
>> Tim Wildmon: What are they talking about?
>> Steve Jordahl: Driver's licenses and.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, I'm sorry. Driver's license. Okay. Well, in some states, like California, you can. You could switch over to the girls jail.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: If you want.
>> Tim Wildmon: Sounds like Montana needs to get some new folks on the Supreme Court.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Amen.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Yes, that's it. What's the point of even asking if you're a male, female, if you can say you're whatever you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Whatever you feel like.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's a commie pinko plot, as a matter of fact, it's a matter of fact.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's why. All right, we're out of time. Thank you, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: My pleasure.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right thank you. Thank you, Tim Ed, from the bottom of my heart.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Crabby M. Crabby Ed.
>> Tim Wildmon: Just want to thank you for all your contributions today. And, who else was on Krish?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Drew Shoemaker, Jude Sager, Brent Creeley, Crow Greene, Cole Greene, and you, our loyal listener.
>> Tim Wildmon: See you tomorrow, everybody.