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>> Fred Jackson: welcome to Today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR. It's Monday, April 27, 2026, and again, hope we hope you're having a great day. Joining me in studio is Fred Jackson. Good morning, Fred.

>> Fred Jackson: Good morning, Tim.

>> Tim Wildmon: Krish Woodward. Good morning. Ed Battagliano is out. Still out. Been out a few days now. he didn't quit.

>> Fred Jackson: Nope.

>> Tim Wildmon: So he's still on staff. And, I told him, you know, take a few days, deal with your attitude and then come back with a new spirit. Yeah, no, I'm just kidding. Just kidding. Brother Ed always has a fairly good attitude. and he is going to be back tomorrow maybe, or Wednesday tomorrow, doing a little traveling. Traveling man, Ed Battagliano.

There was a shooting at the White House correspondence dinner Saturday night

all right, you're listening to today's Issues on afr. so, what's our first story? I wonder what our first, first story might be, Chris?

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, well, there was a shooting, an incident, a foiled attack at the White House correspondence dinner Saturday night. Well, it was, it was prevented, it was stopped from being worse than it could have been, put it that way. the suspect, of course, has been identified as Cole Thomas Allen. It could be cold. Tomas Allen. I'm not sure. He's, a teacher from California. and Fox just shared the video again for the umpteenth time. The video shows him running through the metal detector at this hotel in Washington where this event was being held. and authorities say that he had plans to shoot as many Trump administration officials as possible on camera in front of the journalists that the White House was there to fellowship with.

>> Tim Wildmon: I just heard about this, you know, like half an hour after the fact.

>> Tim Wildmon: And then he exploded all over the news. Yep. Saturday night, right?

>> Fred Jackson: Yes, Saturday night. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Fred, what were you doing? What? What were.

>> Fred Jackson: Well, I was sitting at home, mind my own business.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: Watching some NHL playoffs.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: but I knew the correspondence dinner was on and that President Trump was going to be present for the first time. He has, not accepted an invitation in years past. So I thought I, I need to turn over there just to see what's going on. And as I turned over there to switch the channel to Fox News because I knew Fox was covering it live, there was pandemonium in that room. And so I stuck with that and of course with a lot of other folks across the country, found out what was going on. President Trump, First lady, others who are on the platform were just being covered up with Secret Service people and, and then, military looking people with very high powered weapons jumped out on the tables telling people to get underneath the table in the crowd because there were a couple of thousand people there in the audience. And then we learned that Secret Service outside of the ballroom had foiled an attempt by this guy who we now know was, going to try to get in the room. So since then there has been much, and I. That's an understatement, much discussion about this guy from California, 31 year old young guy, and how he was able to get into that hotel, with at least three weapons. He checked into a room. This, this event is held at the Hilton, all right. In Washington. He arrived the day before, was able to check in with these weapons in his suitcase. And we, and we know this, there was a guy who, who I has been identified as staying in the hotel room next to him. And he was flabbergasted. He said, nobody checked our bags, even though everybody knew the President and all of these people, these cabinet ministers, the Vice President were going to be in that one room at that hotel the, on Saturday night. But guests checking into the hotel weren't being checked. Their baggage wasn't being checked, which I find really strange, among other things. but Secret Service. There was one Secret Service officer who took a bullet to the chest. But fortunately, he had a bulletproof vest on. He's going to be fine. and the shots were fired at this, this young man, Cole Allen. apparently none of the bullets met their target, but they were able to bring this guy down. And everybody has seen that still picture now of him laying face, face down on the floor. But Tim, you sent out a story, and this is one aspect that struck me too. I always thought the President and the Vice President, outside of being at the White House, were never supposed to be together somewhere. That surprised me. M. And then we find out that the speaker of the House. I'm talking about succession. If the President was die. Vice President.

>> Tim Wildmon: If the bomb went off in that room and killed a bunch of people.

>> Fred Jackson: Oh, I mean, it's incredible. Secretary of State was there, Homeland Security, all the, what I would call the big wigs.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: In the Trump administration are all in one room with their spouses. Just. It's mind boggling.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I agree with you. I didn't know. I didn't know that. I thought that was against protocol.

>> Fred Jackson: I did too.

>> Tim Wildmon: To have the president, the vice President on the same podium, with their wives and in a hotel. This, this is, as you say, this isn't at the White House, this isn't at the Pentagon. This isn't at the United States Capitol Building even. I've been to that hotel many times and been to events at that hotel. It's the Washington Hilton. Right. This was the same hotel that President, Reagan was shot.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: For those who remember that or have heard that story, he was shot, outside the building there at the, at the, Washington Hilton. We, went to, So I've been in that very ballroom many times, probably five or six anyway, to, for events I like. Okay. There's a couple things here. First of all, it seems like on the ground at least on the night, the Secret Service did, their job, both in the lobby. And I don't know how they missed shooting the fellow. I don't know. Wasn't there. Haven't seen reports on that. But as far as inside the ballroom, to keep, You know, we all saw the video footage, right? So it seemed like everybody did their job to get, get the, I saw them. Boy, they just yanked Vice President Vance. They were like, throwing him around like a rag doll. And he's a pretty big dude.

Cole Allen: I was shocked at the Secret Service response to Saturday shooting

I mean, six foot. Six foot. So, and then President Trump. So it looked like to me they did their job. And then the. What looked like, SWAT guys. I know they're not swat, they're Secret Service guys, but they're dressed in the same, with the same equipment and they look the same. They just dashed out in front of the m. The table. and I mean, it was, it looked like it was textbook, there. So. But yeah, I would like an explanation, maybe the White House will give it today, on why they allowed the president and the vice president, those two in particular, to be on the same podium in the same building. Just because if something happens that disables, or God forbid, kills, the president, then what happens? You know, and you got to. If it's a mass shooting, or. You know what I'm saying? Something like that happens, then you take out the VP and the president. I know you have a third in command, but guess who that was.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Mike Johnson. Right? Yeah. Isn't that Mike Johnson? Speak of the House.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Guess what? He was there, too.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So I don't know if he was on the, podium. I saw, Who else did you see? I saw, Marco Rubio was there.

>> Fred Jackson: Secretary.

>> Chris Woodward: Also on the list of succession. Yes.

>> Fred Jackson: Transportation Secretary. was there, several.

>> Tim Wildmon: Kennedy. Kennedy was there.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Robert. Robert Kennedy was there. The Secretary of Health and Human Services.

>> Fred Jackson: It was a who's who of the Trump administration all in one.

>> Tim Wildmon: Were you surprised?

>> Fred Jackson: I was shocked at that. I. I really was. But also, it. It's interesting, this Cole Allen, and he's going to be here in court sometime today for formal reasons.

>> Tim Wildmon: He's the gunman, right?

>> Fred Jackson: He's the gunman. 31 years old, California. About 10 minutes before he carried out this deed, he released a manifesto to some friends. And in that manifesto, he even said how surprised he was, how easy it was. Checked into the hotel with his guns. This guy?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. He was already in the hotel. Yes. I mean, he was checked in a room and had been there for a

>> Fred Jackson: few days, at least 24 hours.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: He came across country on a train. All right. So, obviously was going to fly with three guns in his suitcase.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: So he takes. Takes the trip across the country in a train and checks into the hotel, releases this manifesto, which talked about basically the Trump administration doing all kinds of horrible things and that he was taking action basically on behalf of the country. This is where his thinking was. And that's the other aspect of this story, what is going on, because we do know this is the third major attempt on President Trump's life in the last couple of years. you certainly had, in Pennsylvania, and then you had. He was at his golf course. President was at golf course in. Florid. Guy hiding in the bushes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: Who had been there for days.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. I just saw, there's, quite a focus on the Secret Service now. The president, had a news conference back at the White House Saturday night. He was very quick to praise the actions of the Secret Service. But a lot of other people are saying they're going back to Pennsylvania. They're going back to the, incident at the golf course and saying, wait a minute, how can this be? How can it be that these shooters get so close without being taken down in advance? So there's a lot of, a lot of scrutiny undergoing Secret, service.

>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, as far as the hotel there goes in Washington, the Washington Hilton, where this event took place. like you, Fred, I'm, I'm stunned that they allow guests to stay at the hotel while the president, the vice president, all these people are, are going to be in attendance at the ballroom. I'm shocked because you should, the hotel itself. Now keep in mind the hotel is a business. I mean, the Hilton, they don't, they're not a charity. Okay. So, so you, it would cost somebody money to buy out the hotel for the, for the 24 hours. I don't know who would pay for that. The. Because this, this event is sponsored not by the White House. This is sponsored by the correspondence, association.

Kyle Griffin: President Trump has had four attempted assassination attempts in 19 months

Correspondence associate. The White House correspondent, White House Correspondence Association. Okay. It's, it's the media, basically the media journalist. They're the ones who sponsor this. It's an annual event. They get ready and, they get together and they roast, each other and tell jokes and insult each other and it's, it's a, I'm kind of surprised President Trump went there. He hasn't gone before because, because of how really, Kyle, how mean spirited these people can be. It's beyond just good, ribbing, you know, it's, it's, it's ugly oftentimes. But anyway, I'm surprised that they didn't shut down the hotel for 24 hours. Yeah, you shut down the hotel 24 hours in advance. And I mean, you tell, no, you can't stay. I don't care if you've been staying here for four days. You got to go everybody out of the hotel. You sweep the hotel and then shut down for 24 hours. And then after the events over, then everybody can, you know, the president and everybody's left. Then you can go back to business as normal. They're going to have to do that. Yeah. In the future. or either they're just not going to be able to. Seems to me. Seems to me. Go ahead.

>> Chris Woodward: Trump has called for this event to be held again in 30 days. Presumably it will be at the same location. So we hope, well, that the security will be better this time around. Specifically the, Secret Service security. we've got a couple of sound bites from people including a former Secret Service agent by the name of Tim Miller, that is blaming the Secret Service for these continuing attacks or attempts on Trump's life. Let's, let's listen to one sound bite Here again, it's former Secret Service agent Tim Miller. Clip 1.

>> Tim Wildmon: Here we go again. Heroic agents taking life saving measures in the midst of horrible circumstances. We saw that play out in Butler and again in Palm beach. And here we go again. And to your point, the Secret Service is a mission oriented agency that does proactive security. I've done that site as an advance agent. I've been there probably, 50 or 100 times. It's a difficult site. We used to have a director that say, that said, failing to plan is planning to fail. And what we're seeing time and time again, to your point, is the effort before anybody arrives is what's at stake here. And it's important to remember, you know, in our history of our country, there have only been 10, realistic assassination attempts. President Trump has had four in the last 19 months. So something is broken. We have to look at what, what it is, and we've got to get to the root of the problem. What does he mean, broken?

>> Fred Jackson: Well, it's, he's, he went back to Butler, Pennsylvania. Remember this? The shooter in that case made it up on the roof to take his shot.

>> Tim Wildmon: And there never was a satisfactory answer given to me.

>> Chris Woodward: And it was a kid pretty much

>> Tim Wildmon: as to how nobody ever said, you know, our bad, we let him up on the roof. I'm talking about that was a Secret Service's fault. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how else to put it. I mean, I'm a fan of theirs, but, you let a shooter get on a roof within what, couple hundred yards?

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: And nobody, nobody sees that building over there and goes, you know what somebody needs, we need to secure that. I know that they got into a sort of a disagreement about who should be doing that, the local police or the Secret Service. But if you're, if you're on site there in Butler, Pennsylvania, and you look around and you see that, that's, that, building over there is not secured. By secured, I mean, nobody can get on the roof. Right. Which is what the, the guy did. Yes, Right. Then you say, no, we're not, we're not having, the President's not coming out here until that's secured. That's the person who made that call. To let him go out there without it being unsecured is the person who's responsible or. I'm not saying they're a bad person. I'm just saying that that's their fault because that's their job is to make sure nobody can get within a shot's different, distance, of the president.

>> Fred Jackson: And I think what Tim Miller was saying, too. Several days. Let's go back to the Pennsylvania Butler. Several days before the event, the Secret Service supposedly goes out. They do a survey of the site. I'm no expert on this, but if there's a building close by with a roof that somebody could get up on with a ladder, I would say we need somebody with eyes on that. The whole time.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Yes. Thank you.

>> Fred Jackson: The whole time. Here was the other problem. There were local police involved with Butler, but they were on different radio frequencies. That was another mess up. So they couldn't communicate with each other because there were people who saw this guy climbing up on the roof.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, there were.

>> Fred Jackson: I. Yeah, there were eyes, but.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, the one that. Now, the director. Who was it that lost their job over this? There was the top official there.

>> Fred Jackson: The Pennsylvania Secret Service head, I think it was at that time, it was more the local.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, no. Somebody else had to resign. Remember that? It was a girl.

>> Fred Jackson: It was a lady with the lady.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're right, the lady.

Tim Ferriss: I'm surprised the president wasn't gunned down

And, she was, I forgot what her title was. So she did resign. Yes. Because.

>> Chris Woodward: Kimberly Cheetle.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Because of what happened there. As far as the golf course incident goes in Florida, the president was playing golf, and this guy was, He didn't ever get within range of, No pun intended for golfers. They know what I'm talking about. But he. The shooter never did. The potential shooter never did get. And nor did he fire a weapon. They were able to catch him. But the fact that he could stay near the fence line at a golf course for as many hours as he evidently did and not be caught is.

>> Fred Jackson: With a gun.

>> Tim Wildmon: With a gummy. Wouldn't you be. Wouldn't you think that, at least once every few hours there would be a, sweep along the fence line of a, And not all. Not all golf courses have fences, but I guess this is, This is one of the golf courses that President Trump owns. Right.

>> Fred Jackson: Palm Beach.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's a private course. Yeah. So I'm sure they. They have a fence line to keep, you know, people from coming on the golf course. But anyway, yeah, this is, This was. This was a. Ah, just thank God nobody was killed. I'm talking about Saturday night. And nobody was injured. I'm surprised the, the potential assassin wasn't gunned down. I don't. I don't know how that shots were

>> Fred Jackson: fired at him, but somehow avoid being hit.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. And now how old is he?

>> Chris Woodward: 31.

>> Fred Jackson: 31 years old.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're listening to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. That's the show you're listening to. I'm Tim with Fred and Krish. He's 31, he's from California. So you're telling me he got on a train.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And, and, and came all the way across from California to Washington D.C. with several guns.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: And, and so this, that's, this wasn't a, you know, something that happened in 24 hours. This is something that had been planned that, that's also another risk for telling the when, when you have a advance, notice of the President's schedule. And I don't know how you avoid that, quite frankly, because he's the most public figure in the world and people know well he's been invited to speak at so and so. He has agreed to come. So there's just hardly any way to avoid his schedule being announced in advance.

>> Chris Woodward: Fox had a story yesterday afternoon. I'll, see if I can dig it up and I'll share it on our Facebook page. But Fox had a story yesterday afternoon saying that this person, Cole Thomas Allen, 31 years old of California, at one point was laughing about how lax the security was for this event as he was going to the event. And according to the so called manifesto that authorities say they found of Thomas Allen's, he told family members what he was going to do just before it happened and his plan was to take out as many Trump administration officials as possible. So he was clearly unhinged now.

>> Tim Wildmon: He was, he's in, he's being arraigned this morning or whatever.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes, he's supposed to make his first court appearance today.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Chris Woodward: He apparently, if you look at his background, and again all of this is coming from the news reports that did great work yesterday, left, right and center news outlets. But he had apparently become, according to family members, radical. In recent months he had been going to things like no Kings rallies and stuff like that, where there's obviously a lot of anti Trump rhetoric going on.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

Fred Jordan says he planned this all the way, according to President Trump

All right. Any, anything else on this story, Fred?

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, well, just in his so called manifesto he said, I would still go through most everyone here to get to the targets. He was prepared to gun down other people to get to what he calls his targets being President Trump necessary, on the base that most people choose to attend a speech by, I'm quoting his manifest here manifesto, but by a pedophile, rapist and traitor and are thus complicit. But I really hope it doesn't come to that. So he was in favor of gunning down anybody who got in his way. If he got in that room to get to the president. Yeah, he said he also made mention of hot button political issues like the Trump administration strikes on Venezuelan drug boats and the detention of illegal, migrants, according to his manifesto. So he planned this. To your point, Tim, there was a lot of publicity about the fact that Trump was going to be at this event. So he knew that in advance, by the way. Apparently he had purchased these weapons, had been going to firing ranges, to practice. So, his lawyer, whoever it is going to be, is not going to be able to argue that this was done on a whim. He planned this all the way, according

>> Tim Wildmon: to President Trump, he wanted to continue with the evening.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Chris Woodward: Oh, yeah, that. And that was initially planned because the lady, I don't know her name, the lady that runs the whca, the Correspondence association, she came out, came to the very podium and said, we're going to resume this in about a half hour. I can't tell you what happened, but we'll have a statement shortly. Everybody claps and then it ends up getting canceled. Postponed.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Well, I know they wanted to go, you know, but you can't do that.

>> Fred Jackson: No, people are. The Secret Service said, sir, we cannot secure this room.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: In 30, you know, in 30 minutes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. So anyway, they, canceled it. And you're saying they might. They might have it again?

>> Chris Woodward: Yes, that was the plan from Trump's own m. Press conference was 30 days.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I bet they won't have it at all. The reason is it just takes too much to organize people's schedules and everything. And you have to book the hotel event, so I doubt it happens. I doubt a rescheduled event of this nature, this, this large would happen again, but we'll see. Maybe so. We'll be back momentarily with more today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Stay with us.

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>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to afr. I'm Tim with Fred and Krish. Ed's supposed to come back to work sometime in the near future. but, anyway, he was doing a little traveling. It's.

>> Fred Jackson: It's probably good that he was not here today.

>> Tim Wildmon: Why?

>> Fred Jackson: Is it because his Boston brooms.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh.

>> Fred Jackson: In Boston yesterday. Suffered a humiliating defeat.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, man.

>> Fred Jackson: At one point, it was six nothing

>> Tim Wildmon: for Buffalo and on their home ice.

>> Fred Jackson: Home ice.

>> Chris Woodward: That's a whooping in hockey.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes, that is. They did manage one goal, so. But it was six to one and they lost. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: So it's him. He's in. Did that knock him out of the playoffs?

>> Fred Jackson: No, not yet. Not yet. But I was going to get a sympathy card for it. I'm good. I'm getting it. Ready?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Okay. Well, let them. Let them get beat in the playoffs first.

>> Fred Jackson: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Before you give him a sympathy card for over one game. That's kind of. That would be. I think that would be inappropriate.

>> Chris Woodward: What's the next game for him?

>> Tim Wildmon: I know you'd enjoy it greatly, but. But I think that would be.

>> Fred Jackson: Now, Tim, I think you would. You're.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're a sports fan. You're a hockey fan. You and I go back and forth. I hear you.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Sometimes. And, So when it. When Ed's team gets destroyed, you have. You don't care. Yeah. About Ed's feelings. You just.

>> Fred Jackson: I know what Ed's comeback would be, Fred. Your team didn't even make it in the playoffs. Okay.

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: You've got to be careful about dishing in sports because guess what?

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: It'll come right back to you. It's like a boomerang, that's for sure. As soon as you, As soon as you, rip on your, your friends or family's best team and they lose, then your team loses so, well, you get. I see a little smirk on your face over there, Krish. What are you thinking?

>> Chris Woodward: I was just. Never mind.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Probably better unsaid. Yeah.

Alex McFarland discusses upcoming royal visit on American Family Radio

Okay, so you are listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. We are going to get to the visit of the royal family. There's a couple of them in just a moment, coming to the United States if they're not already here. But first of all, there is a very important event taking place in Washington D.C. that many people across the country, Christians across the country, participated in. Several people on our staff did. Buddy Smith, Wesley and Walker Wildmon, my sons, reading the Bible, reading through the Bible and, publicly. And that took place over a span of a week. And one of the, one of our folks who participated is our good friend and colleague, Dr. Alex McFarland, co host of Exploring the Word each weekday afternoons at 3 o' clock Central time on American Family Radio. And I wanted him to talk about it. Alex, good morning to you.

Good morning, everybody. Are you traveling in Kansas or something somewhere

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: Good morning, everybody.

>> Tim Wildmon: Are you traveling in Kansas or something somewhere?

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: I am. I am in South Haven, Kansas, en route to Oklahoma City.

>> Tim Wildmon: Now, where is South Haven, Kansas?

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: I really don't know.

>> Chris Woodward: Northeastern.

>> Tim Wildmon: What, did you just see the sign or something?

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: I'm actually, in this little town, very, very tiny town. And there's. I see South Haven School and a baseball field and a lot of, pastures. Cows and tractors and silos.

>> Tim Wildmon: I think you'll be good as long as you don't see a tornado coming your way. I think you'll be.

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: Oh, well, I was in Wichita Thursday through yesterday speaking in some high schools and a couple of churches. And Saturday, night we did a Biblical Worldview presentation in Wichita. But, I think it was Friday night. Oh, my goodness. There was a weather advisory and I was in this hotel, this Hampton Inn, and you know, the proverbial wind as loud as a locomotive coming by. I mean, it was like that windy on Friday night.

>> Tim Wildmon: Scary. Yeah. Let me tell you something. no disrespect to Hampton Inn, those little hotels are not made to hold up to tornadoes. I'll tell you that right now. Those walls are so thin. I mean, you know what your neighbor's doing next door. Sometimes you don't want to know. But, anyway, so anyway, I'm glad you're safe and sound.

Benjamin Pound participated in a Read through the Bible event in Washington

Okay, so tell us about the Read through the Bible event, that you participated in. And as I mentioned, some of our own team here in Tupelo participated in.

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: You know, it was really a blessing. I was very honored that there is a ministry called Christians Engaged. And it's, some very fine people in that organization, one of which is dear Christian lady named Bunni Pounds. And, they're all about, you know, kind of like what we do and what Tony Perkins does, you know, getting born again Christians engaged and informed. And, Bunni Pounds called me probably about a year and a half ago and said, we're gonna, you know, in our nation's capital, we want to read the Bible cover to cover. And, would you be one of our readers? And I said, sure. And, she said, what do you want to read? and it's early enough. You can have any part of the Bible. Revelation 22, Genesis, Jon 3. What do you want? And I said, I'll tell you what, I'll take anything anybody else doesn't want. and, you know, Franklin Graham read, and there were a lot of people. I was thrilled that some of our staff were there. very famously, President Trump read second Chronicles 7, which includes the very famous 7:14. But I told the organizers, I said, I'll do whatever anybody else doesn't want to do because,

>> Tim Wildmon: So what was that? So what did you read?

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: I had, Nehemiah 10, 11, and 12, which supposedly is the. The. The toughest list of name pronunciations maybe in the entire Old Testament.

>> Chris Woodward: I watched it. You nailed it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Let me look this up here. Nehemiah. What'd you say?

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: 10, 11, and 12. You know, they're rebuilding the walls. There's all these inhabitants of Jerusalem, Levites and family members. And, So.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, my word. I'm looking at this. I'm looking at. Look at. I didn't have it memorized. Look at Nehemiah, chapter 10. You poor soul. You had to announce. You had to. You probably practice this, though, didn't you? Look at this.

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: I did. I read it for Angie at home. And, But Bunni. Bunni Pounds, she said, alex, nobody will do this. I said, I'll do it. I said I would. Because here's the thing. For a saved sinner, to open the Scriptures anywhere is a great honor. And I thought, nobody else wants this. I'll do it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so then we get into chapter 12, and look at Nehemiah, chapter 12, which you read, again, a whole bunch of names. The. These are, you know, Old Testament Jewish names. and then you had to get to, But anyway. Well, good. I'm glad you volunteered to read the Scriptures. what do you think the significance of. Of what the event was about, indicates or if that's the right way to phrase a question.

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: Well, I really do think it's significant. And you know, I was very blessed. the Bartons were right before me. David Barton and his wife and Tim, very, very fine people that we've been friends with, the barton's literally for 30 years plus. And you know, for one thing, Isaiah 55 says God's word does not return void. So there is power in the word of God. And I think it's a wonderful thing just for the entirety of scripture to be proclaimed. So that's very significant. I also think it's significant, like David Barton and I were talking about, that America's founders that, you know, they carried out the American Revolution, from the Fairfax Resolves to the Mecklenburg Declaration to the Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers, the Preamble, the Constitution, all of our foundational documents on which the republic rests. The single most influential source material was the bible. In fact, 3154 times. Think about this. 3154 times. America's founders, verbatim quote or allude to the scripture. And I think every generation, certainly the one we're in now, needs to be reminded of this. And I do think it was very telling. And I'm gonna say this, we didn't really ballyhoo this before the event. but, Ben Quine, Bunni pounds, their publicist. I've really gotten to know these people. There were a number of Republican elected officials that read and all members of Congress were offered the opportunity to read a portion of scripture if they would so choose. Many, many Republicans did. I'm told zero Democrats agreed to read anything

>> Tim Wildmon: really.

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: And I'll bet you, Tim, I've never gambled in my life, but I bet, you 20 bucks if they had a read through the Koran event, Democrats would do that.

>> Tim Wildmon: I agree with you on that. Yes.

Third attempted on President Trump's life in last couple of years

>> Fred Jackson: Alex, Fred here we've been talking about, what happened on Saturday night in Washington D.C. another planned attempt on the president's life. And we've been talking this morning story meetings, here about, okay, what is going on in our country. The level of violence, Third attempt on the, on the president's life in the last couple of years. But it goes beyond that now. You know, Monday morning quarterback going on. You have Democrats saying we need a commission to deal with the, violent political rhetoric in this country. But Alex, I got a feeling it goes well beyond just political rhetoric. There is something going on spiritually in this Country. I'd like you to address that.

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: Well, thank you. And you know what? President Donald Trump now, having survived three attempts on his life, it's almost like George Washington. You know, during the American Revolution, there were, different Native Americans that had tried to kill George Washington, and he was providentially protected. In fact, there is a story of where George Washington was fired upon, and there were bullet holes in his jacket, and yet he had no wounds on his body. And word got out among the Native Americans that, God is protecting General Washington. Don't try to kill him. And, Brits and Native Americans. My point is this. clearly the protective hand of God has been with President Trump. I would say something else that's an egregious problem is breaches, in the security detail that travels with the President. You know, I've seen the footage we all have of that assailant Saturday night running through, making a mad dash through the lobby. I mean, folks, do you realize how, apart from God's intervention, I mean, we were one second away from a global situation here. And so, we all remember Pennsylvania back in the summer of 24. I'd like to see the Secret Service be a little more copious and careful about how they protect our president. I'm amazed that guy got as far as he did. Or you, Tim?

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah, we were talking about that earlier in the hour. The fact that they don't close that hotel down 24 for. For at least 24 hours is shocking to me because, you got people that are staying there, and they're in their hotel rooms, and they can just come down to the lobby like this guy did. And, by the way, just FYI here, I was looking this up. Did you know, President Ford, GERALD Ford had two assassination attempts and within 17 days. Do you remember that? I don't remember that.

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: I remember he. There were attempts. I didn't realize they were that close together, but, yeah, I do remember that. Even though that's. I was just a kid.

>> Tim Wildmon: But, yeah, 17. 17 days. Yeah, you're right. Reagan was shot and almost died.

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: Yeah, he really did.

>> Tim Wildmon: At the same hotel.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: But he was outside when he was shot. Jon Hinckley was the man who shot him. Everybody.

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: Jon Hinckley Jr. Yeah. And, Yeah, here's the thing that I would love to hear from the left is a categorical condemnation of this. You know, literally two weeks before he was killed, Charlie Kirk was. Was in my conference back east in Myrtle Beach. Charlie was my keynote speake for one of our events. And then a month after Charlie, we had Jenna Ellis speak. But, we were backstage and Charlie was, talking about the level of violence and how the left, whether it be climate activist or transgender activist or gay activist or abortion activists. Charlie said, you know, they can't debate the issues, so their recourse is, well, kill him. Kill him. And of course, very tragically, Charlie was killed. in fact, Bird and I were on exploring the Word. The entire news media of the world said he was in critical but stable condition. I got a text from a friend of the president who texted me and said, we have this from the Oval Office. Charlie is dead. Very. And I've had a number of people tell me this. Probably the first media outlet that said, no, Charlie is not in critical condition. Charlie has passed. Probably was exploring the word because I got a text from a friend of a friend. but here's the thing that the left is not doing. And by the way, let me say this. What would be wrong, I would say this to all of our militant secularists citizens. What would be wrong with saying, you know, the Ten Commandments that the founders, James Madison, Jon Quincy Adams, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Ben Franklin, all of the founders pointed to the Ten Commandments as the epistemic foundation of our government. What would be wrong with reminding this generation? By the way, you do know commandment number six? God says, thou shalt not commit murder. But the left says, oh, well, you know, this is all Republicans. This is your fault because you're. Your violent rhetoric. Republicans aren't saying to kill anybody. Now, if, if by convicting truth, if you find that violent, that's unfortunate. But the truth is the truth, irrespective of how many leftists don't like it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well, you know, Christians are held to a higher standard of behavior, by the Bible. M. So we can't murder people because we politically disagree with them. even how you did because there's a higher, There's a higher law. However, if you don't believe in God, then you don't care about that. You don't. You may care because it's. You get caught like this guy has and you get put in prison or you get the death penalty or something like that. But, as far as God saying, you know, thou shalt not murder, they don't care about that because they don't believe in God. So they're not. Their hands are not tied in the, in that. In a moral way. Like, like, like we would be.

Radical leftist Hassan Piker says United Healthcare CEO deserved death penalty

>> Chris Woodward: Hey, There is a sound bite here that relates to what you guys were having a conversation on. and let me set it up here because it would be great to have Alex's comment on it. There is a radical leftist by the name of Hassan Piker that has been hanging around the likes of like AOC and Independent. But I want to hang out with Democrat Senator Bernie Sanders. and Hassan Piker has made all kinds of news for reasons, including comments that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson had it coming because health care executives are terrible people. And therefore, according to Hasan Piker, people like Luigi Mangione were in the ride for murdering these individuals here.

>> Tim Wildmon: You talk about the guy who, Mangioni is the guy who assassinated the CEO of United Healthcare out in front of the hotel.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Just shot him down and cold blood.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. And Hassan Piker says he's a hero

>> Tim Wildmon: to a lot of these.

>> Chris Woodward: Sure. Because it's a socialist murderer. Okay, so let's play the sound bite here of Hassan Biker Piker saying these things.

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: Clip 7 Brian Thompson as the United Healthcare CEO, was engaging in a tremendous amount of social murder. Virtually every American has a similar experience, a shared experience where they have a loved one that spent their last days, instead of spending them, with their family, spending it on the phone talking to their healthcare provider.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: What's the guy talking about?

>> Fred Jackson: But he, he, he, he didn't say I endorse the assassination of this CEO. What he did say is that the CEO, because he, he was the head of a medical insurance company, was committing. The phrase he used was social murder.

>> Tim Wildmon: Because, because he's saying because United Healthcare maybe had denied a claim. Denied a claim. Right. Therefore they killed the person. And so that CEO deserved the death penalty.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: even if it wasn't official, even if it was about somebody, just Vigilante is a he. Is that what he's saying?

>> Fred Jackson: And this guy is being platformed by some Democrats.

>> Tim Wildmon: I got you.

>> Fred Jackson: All right.

>> Tim Wildmon: The guy we just heard.

>> Fred Jackson: I was just heard. Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: So anyway, well, go ahead.

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: Here's, here's what's wrong. Barack ah Obama, and Joe Biden each said that health insurance coverage is a human Right. Well, any type health insurance is a product. People may choose to buy a product when that product does not perform as they desire, they could buy another product. And let me just say the idea that the company did not, meet my demands, therefore I will kill the CEO of the company.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: That, that, that's lunacy and lawlessness.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: And you know what's so Sad about the woke global Marxist left. They are so wed to their ideologies that they're willing to commit murder for it rather than entertain the idea that their worldview is wrong.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yep. Amen. Amen. Not in Amen. And I agree with your analysis.

Alex McFarland thanks everyone for prayers ahead of Oklahoma trip

All right, Alex, we will return you to avoiding tornadoes and traveling on the. On the. I was going to say the backwoods of Kansas, but it's. There's not much woods there. It's the back plains.

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: Bert and I will be on Exploring the word today at 3pm Central in the Book of Numbers. And then I'll be preaching at a men's event tonight. So where I value everyone's prayers. Oklahoma City, OKC.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so Alex McFarland will be in OKC tonight. And All right, Alex. Take care, my friend.

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: God bless you all.

>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you, my brother, Alex McFarland.

Parts of Midwest under severe weather risk today due to possible tornadic activity

So I'm looking at this like there's a Missouri's in the bullseye.

>> Fred Jackson: Yep.

>> Tim Wildmon: Of Tornado, Tornado. Tornado watch this afternoon.

>> Chris Woodward: There are portions of the Midwest today today that are level four out of five in terms of a severe weather risk, five being the highest.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Well, anyway, it looks like St. Louis is like ground zero or the. For the potential of a tornadic activity today. All right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Well, we got the king, and the Queen of England. Are they here now, Krish? Do you know, I'm not sure.

>> Fred Jackson: They, they're going to be at the White House around three o' clock this afternoon.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Yeah, but that's, They don't come over here much.

>> Fred Jackson: No, he's, he's here to help the United States celebrate 250 years of being separated from England.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's kind of bizarre.

>> Chris Woodward: You enjoy that, you peasants.

>> Tim Wildmon: So is that really why he's coming?

>> Fred Jackson: That's, that's. Yeah. To celebrate the, uh.250.

>> Chris Woodward: It is our second oldest ally outside of France.

>> Dr. Josh Mulvihill: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but I don't think he's celebrating allyism. M. No, what I'm saying is, Well, I'm going to put this way. We kick their British fanny. Am I right?

>> Fred Jackson: That's right.

>> Chris Woodward: Because man of faith, George Washington wouldn't have it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Little ragtag bunch of farmers and merchants and fishermen.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Beat the most powerful army and navy in the world. Yeah. At that time. and if you read that story, I remember reading the book 1776. Okay. Wow. It's by a historian by the name of David McCullough. Every American needs to read that book to appreciate, our divine. What Steven McDowell calls divine providence, because that. That created. What we still enjoy today is the United States of America.

>> Fred Jackson: Absolutely.

>> Tim Wildmon: The fact that they were able to beat. Beat the British and declare independence was, I would say if you looked at it, you would say you got a 10% chance of winning that war. And yet they did. And George Washington was God's man for that time. And, as you guys said, the stories about him are phenomenal and remarkable. But. So the King of England, Charles. Right? He's still King Charles. He's been around for a long time now.

>> Fred Jackson: President Trump has said, I really like King Charles. We get along just fine.

>> Tim Wildmon: Do they?

>> Fred Jackson: However, President Trump is not as complimentary about the Prime Minister of Britain, prime, Minister Starmer. In.

>> Chris Woodward: He.

>> Fred Jackson: He doesn't like him at all.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Because he usually hides it, though. If he doesn't like you, you never know it.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes. Of. Of, Prime Minister Starmer, President Trump said he ain't no, Churchill.

>> Tim Wildmon: Who said that?

>> Fred Jackson: Trump.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, Trump did, yes.

>> Chris Woodward: Is anybody, though? I mean, Churchill was a great figure in history.

>> Tim Wildmon: President Trump, you know, he, you know, he teaches Dale Carnegie classes on the side. You know that, right?

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: How to Win Friends and Influence People by Donald Trump. We'll be back momentarily. Stay with us. The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.