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Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildman

>> Steve Jordahl: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back to Today's Issues on American Family radio. We got 24 minutes left on this show. Thank you for joining us. I'm Tim with Wesley and Ray. And now Steve Paisley. Jordahl walks in and sits down and ready to go. How you doing, brother Steve?

>> Steve Jordahl: Hello, everybody. Doing well, thank you.

>> Tim Wildmon: What's your first story, Steve?

President Trump honored British king during ceremony marking 250th anniversary of American independence

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, as we've been watching kind of on the TV that's in our studio here, President Trump is welcoming King James Charles and Queen Camilla to the White House. And, I was watching this ceremony that they did. They did a review of the troops where Donald Trump and King Charles and a military general type person walked in front of troops that were standing at attention. You know how that happens? It's interesting because Trump and the general were like, three steps ahead of King Charles, who looked like he was struggling to keep up. And I wasn't sure if that wasn't Donald Trump flexing a little bit. I'm not sure. But, then they did a review the true with troops, with Donald Trump standing at a podium, and they had, the United States has a drum and bugle corps, which is basically revolutionary, soldiers in revolutionary dress with drums and fifes, dressed in red coats, doing the, you know, this Jon Philip Sousa stuff as they walk by. I kind of was wondering, isn't it rude to, like, put red coats in front of, King Charles when you're, And in fact, Donald Trump actually referenced this whole thing and, ah, had. I thought it was a pretty good thing to say. Let's listen to what he had to say. This is cut 14.

>> Donald Trump: Here in the shadows of monuments to George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, honoring the British king might seem an ironic beginning to our celebration of 250 years of American independence. But in fact, no tribute could be more appropriate. Long before Americans had a nation or a constitution, we first had a culture, a character and a creed. Before we ever proclaimed our independence, Americans carried within us the rarest of gifts, moral courage. And it came from a small but mighty kingdom from across the sea. For nearly two centuries before the Revolution, this land was settled and forged by men, women who bore in their souls the blood and noble spirit of the British. Here on a wild and untamed continent, they set loose the ancient English love of liberty and the Great Britain's distinctive sense of glory, destiny and pride. And that's what it is. Glory, destiny and pride.

>> Steve Jordahl: Some, very nice comments from the president yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Remember, and I know most people know this, but remember, we Americans, we're not Americans. our country was a collection of colonies that, were British.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: And that probably would have remained so, at least beyond what it did.

>> Steve Jordahl: Except for the evil King George.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. The mistreatment of the colonists by the king led to a rebellion which ultimately led to, the independence of the United States. And there were a lot of, colonists, I'm trying to remember, but there were a substantial percentage of colonists who didn't agree with breaking away from, Great Britain.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. it was like 40%, 45%.

>> Tim Wildmon: They were called loyalists. And they thought, well, we shouldn't be.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And even within that group, they had different reasons, but they were not, ah, in solidarity of rebelling right away, but they were.

>> Tim Wildmon: They. The King of England at the time was imposing, taxation and all sorts of, economic pressures put on, the colonists that they finally just got fed up and tired of it and decided to break away from, you know, and that was a big risk because they didn't know whether they. Because if they didn't make it, they would be hung.

>> Steve Jordahl: That's what I mean, you know, Was it. Who was it that said we must all Ben Franklin together or else we'll hang separately?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that was Benjamin Franklin.

>> Steve Jordahl: You know, I was struck when he was making those comments, Ray. I was kind of thinking it was amazing.

>> Tim Wildmon: M. Ben Franklin or somebody else.

>> Steve Jordahl: No, President Trump was making the comments today talking about the, colonists who came to this country. They braved an ocean that took days to cross on rickety ships. They came to a wilderness country where they had to. There was no supermarket down the corner. They had to do everything by themselves. They were. And our DNA is a hearty, hearty bunch of, explorers and brave people. Right, Ray?

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, when you think about the pilgrims who came across. When you think about the people who follow the pilgrims who came across, the. They were, they were setting aside safety and security and the comforts of home to go across a very difficult ocean to cross back then, to come to, quote the new world, which was barely settled at that time, not knowing what the future would be. I think President Trump said it very, very well. And I'm, I'm paraphrasing different words. We get our culture, we get our heritage from the British people, from England.

>> Tim Wildmon: And, oh, we speak English.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, we speak English. That's right. We're not speaking German. We're not speaking French. Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Speak English. And you're right. We get,

>> Tim Wildmon: There is get our common law, the legal foundation of our society.

>> Steve Jordahl: There is something, the American spirit, I think it was born out. for example, one example of this might have been, in the 1960s during the Apollo program where we pioneered our way to the moon. Another risky trip that had no guarantee, of success and everything. But it was in the American DNA to push boundaries. And it is, and I'm not so sure it's not literal DNA, from those people, whoever came across and started this country, I don't know how much is nurture, how much is nature, but we learned from them and we became a country that pushed boundaries and took risks. And because of the type of people who came to this country, both the settlers in the colonies and like Ray, was talking about the pilgrims who may have come for religious persecution from different countries, all of them had this thing in common where they were willing to risk everything for a very doubtful venture.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well also, if your motivation, Now the people that came to the NewSong World, to America from Europe were basically they had two motivations. A lot of them had the motivation for religious freedom, as we know the story of the Pilgrims and others. And then, some of them had the motivation of money. They saw it as a new place to find resources to sell back home in Europe. And so I think that would be the two primary reasons, motivations and then discovery, discovering of the NewSong World and new places, that they could claim for said country that they came from. Now, but if you want to look at, and I'm writing an article on this right now, in fact, if you want to look at the uniqueness, you might say, well, how in the world did the United States, which was British colonies before the War of Independence, how did that country. So young. I mean, we're just even so we're only 250 years old. Compare that to countries, other countries around the world, you know, we're, we're still an infant. Okay, a toddler maybe. But you say what is unique that caused the success of the American adventure slash experiment? And if I could lay it one word, it would be liberty.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Liberty.

>> Tim Wildmon: Liberty. Liberty. I just wanted to say that.

>> Steve Jordahl: There you go.

>> Tim Wildmon: Liberty and, or if you want to use the word freedom is okay too. Freedom. They have some distinguishing factors, but they're interchangeable.

Freedom and liberty. Is the best economic system in the world

Freedom and liberty. So what it proved was that if you can, if you can self govern and people will be lawful and you have law and order and otherwise from that law and order, you have personal freedom or liberty to do what you want to with your life without government interference, then the ingenuity that will spring up the, from, from that freedom will, Will be revolutionary.

>> Tim Wildmon: And, and because people see the opportunity for, hey, I work for this, or I invent this, or I, you know, I grow this. Guess what? I'm going to prosper. I'm going to make money. That's going to help my family, that's going to help me, that's going to help other people. And then that exploded. So liberty and freedom again. My dad used to say the free, enterprise system, which is what we operate under in America, it's been the best. Is the best economic system in the world, the world's ever seen.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Probably out there.

>> Tim Wildmon: History.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. For the world's ever seen. And the United States is proof of that. as long as it's undergirded by the Christian value system. Because if you have people and they're only motivated by money, if that's their only motivation, that can be poisonous. Okay. Then you start to abuse people, then you start to cheat people, then you start to live a, you start to celebrate what I would call, hedonism. Okay. But if you have the free enterprise system, undergirded by a sense of Christian charity, you know, a sense of right and wrong and moral values, then the the wealth, the, the education, for instance, we have, we've. We with that liberty and freedom. We valued education in America for everybody. For everybody. Not just the wealthy or not just the powerful, but for everybody.

>> Steve Jordahl: Democracy.

>> Tim Wildmon: We didn't want kings. In fact, Steven McDowell tells this story, that after George Washington had served like two terms, I think, and, and one.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And we won. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: That there was a movement to make him king because think about it, that's all the world had ever known. We didn't have elected representatives really, in world history. So the people wanted to make him king because he was the leader and he was so idolized. M. But George Washington said that's the last thing I want. I don't want to be king because that's not, that's what we, that's what we fought to get away from.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. He said that's the whole. What's the big paraphrasing. That's a big part of the war.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right, Right. So I don't know how did I get on this? I don't know.

>> Wesley Wildmon: But I had so many, I had so many moments. I wanted to interrupt and just add. But you were Just rolling so well, that I was. We just let you go.

>> Tim Wildmon: How did I start?

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, we were talking about. We were talking about the, the patriot, the fife and drum corps. The comment that Trump made about that

>> Tim Wildmon: set me off on, like, seven minutes.

>> Steve Jordahl: I do have something else to say in the corner.

>> Tim Wildmon: Talk. He's still there, and then y' all can talk.

>> Steve Jordahl: Okay, go ahead.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, what you said reminded me of something. The late Justice Supreme Court Justice Anthony Scalia often emphasized that America was not guaranteed that when the revolution started, there was no guarantee that it would succeed. I was thinking of it in, okay, football terms at Valley Forge, that difficult, harsh, cold winter. If Las Vegas had existed back then, they would have favored England by three touchdowns. There was no way to guarantee that Washington, as great a leader as he was in the Continental army, could somehow defeat, let's understand, the greatest, most powerful army and empire on the face of the Earth. It was not foreordained. It took exactly what you were talking about. The love of liberty, the love of freedom, determination, and the willingness to lay everything on the line. Remember the phrase from the Declaration of Independence? We pledge our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor. 250 years later, we read that as. That's a sweet sounding thing. No, they meant it. Their lives, their fortune, their sacred honor.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Steve Jordahl: Steve, it strikes me that we, as Americans, kind of assume that the rest of the world has our same DNA. And this was the mistake that the Bushes, all those walls wanted. Democracy. To export democracy to other countries like Iraq. It didn't work. Because the rest of the world doesn't hold the same DNA. They don't value the same things. And this is also, I think, part of the reason why we have such a problem with people who immigrate here assimilating, because they don't hold the same. They don't. It's not like everybody yearns for freedom. They don't. It's just an American thing. And I don't think a lot of people understand that, especially policymakers or the neocon who wanted to wage war and bring this kind of experiment to other countries that didn't have that DNA. It didn't. It doesn't work.

Woman gave birth on Delta Airlines flight; does infant fly free now

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Hey, we're going to talk about this lady who had a baby on an airplane. Sure you have that story there?

>> Steve Jordahl: I can bring it up right now. Give me a second.

>> Wesley Wildmon: What a switch.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hear about this?

>> Wesley Wildmon: I did hear about this. Saw the pictures, too. And obviously not the after pictures of the baby. Yeah, they took a couple snapshots of the. In celebration.

>> Tim Wildmon: the lady gave birth on a Delta. Do you see this, Ray?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: On a Delta Airlines flight. My question would be, does the baby have to pay now? You know what? I'm, Does infants fly free?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, it's under two years old.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. The still five is free. So new. I'm just saying it's a new person on the right being born.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I want to know, how did she think she was close to giving? Did she give?

>> Tim Wildmon: That does.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Early.

>> Tim Wildmon: You want to know that because you're not supposed to fly after, like,

>> Wesley Wildmon: there is a time.

>> Tim Wildmon: Seven months or something like that, you

>> Wesley Wildmon: know, I wasn't listening.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, I think it was either you or your sister was going to be born. And, So, your wife, your mom, m. And I, we had a. My dad gave me free tickets to Hawaii.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: This is 1989. I think it was you.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Maybe 89 is when I was born.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I know. I was there.

>> Wesley Wildmon: But you act confused, like I'm not sure which one.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I don't know. Your sister was born in 87.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay, but you're trying to think.

>> Tim Wildmon: Was it. I think it was that one. I think. I think it was your sister. Anyway, my point is, the doctor told us, do not fly after five months,

>> Wesley Wildmon: even if you get free tickets.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I think the free tickets part was irrelevant. I think it was, you. It wouldn't be good for you to fly. We don't. The doctor said, I don't recommend you flying after five months. Yeah, so that's my question.

Woman gave birth on Delta Airlines flight yesterday, according to AP

You ask this lady who gave birth on a Delta Airlines plane today. Yesterday. I wonder how. I guess the airline probably doesn't forbid it. They don't. Probably.

>> Steve Jordahl: The AP is saying that she was two weeks ahead of schedule when she gave birth. Okay, so the baby came two weeks early.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay. Just a matter of a couple days off.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, it was a big deal, too. so how does that work on. Does it say. How does it.

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, there were a couple paramedics that were. Happened to be on the flight.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, well, praise the Lord.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yes. And they assisted with the birth. They borrowed blankets from other passengers. And the shoelace you tie off the end.

>> Tim Wildmon: Excuse me, ma', am. Can I borrow your blanket?

>> Steve Jordahl: Exactly what do you need it for? You don't want to know.

>> Tim Wildmon: You won't be getting it back.

>> Steve Jordahl: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Three. Three rows up. We're having a B baby.

>> Steve Jordahl: The, mom's name was Ashley Blair. She's from Tennessee. She was flying to Oregon to be with her mother as. So she was going to have the baby out in Oregon.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Steve Jordahl: But it came early. The baby's name is Brielle Renee Blair with five and a half pounds.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know what I would name her?

>> Wesley Wildmon: I don't want to know.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, no, Delta.

>> Steve Jordahl: Delta. Delta Don.

>> Tim Wildmon: I would name her Delta.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And she's from Tennessee originally, so that's. That's a southern name. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: The Delta Airlines.

>> Steve Jordahl: So, Delta's missing big opportunity if they give that baby free flights for life.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: They'll probably do a commercial.

>> Steve Jordahl: I would that, I guess.

>> Tim Wildmon: Health Airlines. We're ready for anything.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: So mother and daughter are doing well?

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, apparently. According to the Associated Press. Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Did they fly on? Does it say. Did they. Did they go. Did they land earlier that they're flying out?

>> Steve Jordahl: they asked flight attendants for blankets and an obstetrical kit. Sterile set of medical tools used. Emergency trial. apparently planes carry emergency childbirth kits. Who knew?

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, you probably had a rookie flight attendant on that flight.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, probably.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, I think they flew.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I think they finished up their flight.

>> Steve Jordahl: They didn't land early. Yeah, I think they. The, They. A responding crew from Portland airport fire and rescue found the mother and baby healthy. So they flew on Portland.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, thank God they had the EMT. would you say EMTs or nurses on there?

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, two of them.

>> Wesley Wildmon: All right, well, and that's not Babylon Be. That's.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, that really happened. And that's a flight, no one will ever forget. You will never forget. All right, so.

>> Wesley Wildmon: But that is good news that both the mom and the baby's healthy and it went well.

>> Tim Wildmon: Amen.

Justice Department accuses Dr. Anthony Fauci of using private email

Next story. Steve.

>> Steve Jordahl: All right, I just want to say this. The Justice Department is accusing and has indicted a longtime Senior advisor to Dr. Anthony Fauci of using his private email to Hide Communications about COVID 19 from public view, while helping to shape the narrative about its origins. His name is David Morens. He's 78 years old, and he's been indicted. he was a top advisor within the National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases.

>> Tim Wildmon: what is he accused of doing,

>> Steve Jordahl: you know, of using his personal email account to evade federal transparency laws and to shield key discussions from freedom of information requests. So, and I was reading this would be a guy that they might want to turn. And, if they want to go after Anthony Fauci, he would know where the skeleton.

>> Tim Wildmon: This was Fouchy's right hand man.

>> Steve Jordahl: That's Correct.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, why would you want to, you can't help but, wonder why people are suspicious of Dr. Anthony Fauci and the. That that whole episode when things like this are uncovered, that the fellow was. And again, this is alleged that his top assistant was using his own private email. So he didn't. So he didn't have to, have. Have a paper trail, so to speak.

>> Steve Jordahl: Exactly.

>> Tim Wildmon: when he was. When he was actually a government official.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, the, they say this, he deliberately. They're alleging that he deliberately moved conversations off official government systems on a private email account.

>> Tim Wildmon: Why would you do that?

>> Steve Jordahl: To keep them from public disclosure. Because, remember, Anthony Fauci and the rest were. one of the discussions was, was this a natural monkey, transmitted, virus, or was it the bats?

>> Tim Wildmon: I think the bats, yeah.

>> Steve Jordahl: Thank you. Or was it developed with. At the Wuhan Institute of Virology using the. The right. and. And it turned out that it was Wuhan. The lab, but they were trying to shield that.

>> Tim Wildmon: But why would you do that?

>> Steve Jordahl: Well, because that makes you responsible if you're. If you're.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's what creates distrust.

>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And that whole episode with COVID and Dr. Fauci, you remember Dr. Fauci was the one who said, ah, hey, mask. He said, mask don't help in this kind of virus.

>> Steve Jordahl: He said a lot of things.

>> Tim Wildmon: And then three weeks later he goes, mask up. Everybody remember that? So you go, which is it? That immediately he let. He calls distrust.

>> Steve Jordahl: That was such a dystopian time.

>> Wesley Wildmon: The best one, the classic one, is when he was asked, should you or should you not wear goggles?

>> Steve Jordahl: And he paused and was like, you know what?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, if you got a pair of goggles around you, probably. He said, yeah, he said, you know what? Now that you mentioned that, I think actually that's a good idea.

>> Tim Wildmon: Covid. From getting in your eyes. Is that what he was saying?

>> Wesley Wildmon: If you have a pair, don't go

>> Steve Jordahl: out of your way to get one.

>> Wesley Wildmon: But if you have a pair, goggles will help.

>> Steve Jordahl: That's pretty funny.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, wow. Okay, then.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That was about 18 months in. He just lost all. He was just.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, Yeah, that's a good word. Dystopian memories there. All right, thank you, Ray.

>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you, Tim.

>> Tim Wildmon: thanks to Wesley and Steve and Krish. Krish Garter of the Woods. Woodard Woodward.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Brent Creeley and Cole Greene. We'll see you back here tomorrow.