Today's Issues continues on AFR with Steve Paisley Jordan
>> Steve Jordahl: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome Back to last 25 minutes of today's Issues here on the American Family Radio Network on this Thursday. Is this the last day? Third.
>> Fred Jackson: April. It is. The very last. Tomorrow. May 1st.
>> Steve Jordahl: Mayday, mayday, mayday.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, Steve Paisley Jordan. How you doing, brother?
>> Steve Jordahl: I'm well, thank you.
>> Tim Wildmon: Did we not. And raised there. Raised in Kansas City. We're in Tupelo. So, was there not a April, 31st sometime in my life, or is it always ended at 30?
>> Fred Jackson: April, June and November.
>> Steve Jordahl: Get your knuckles out.
>> Tim Wildmon: There Never was an April 31.
>> Tim Wildmon: Never was.
>> Fred Jackson: Not that I'm aware of.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wow. Must have been a dream. I don't know what happened there. Anyway, so April 30th is the last day. Tomorrow's May 1st.
>> Fred Jackson: May 1st.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. My dad said that I could, raid the refrigerator when I was a teenager. I could read the refrigerator and have all the ice cream I want on May 31st. He didn't.
>> Tim Wildmon: But on April 31st.
>> Steve Jordahl: On April 30th. April 31st. Yes, yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because I think there is a May.
>> Steve Jordahl: There is 31. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: There is a May 31st. All right. Steve, how you doing?
>> Steve Jordahl: I'm well, thank you.
Chris Woodward is incorrect on a group of cats, Ray says
I need to start with a correction. I love my brother, in the Lord and fellow reporter, Krish Woodward. But he is incorrect on the group of cats. A group of cats is called a clowder. C L O W D E R. What?
>> Tim Wildmon: A clown.
>> Steve Jordahl: A clowder.
>> Tim Wildmon: A clown.
>> Tim Wildmon: C L what?
>> Steve Jordahl: C L O W D E R. Look it up.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, not chowder.
>> Steve Jordahl: Louder.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, what, what happened to that meow hand?
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't know where he got that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Let me tell you how this works.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ray and Tim, what were you really doing with those cats?
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know. I. I'm not gonna. I plead the fifth Amendment.
>> Tim Wildmon: No idea what.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm not going to self incriminate. so the group of. So Krish, like all of us, most of us, if we have a question we don't know the answer to, our thumbs immediately go to Google.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right, right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And the first thing that pops up, we believe it.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Golly, we believe it. So that's the answer we give is whatever pops up. And I think what popped up was
>> Steve Jordahl: Meowton or something he's out in.
>> Tim Wildmon: But you're saying upon further investigation, a group of cats, ah, are called a clouder of cats. Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: And it's actually sounds like a word it is. You can look it up for me, Ray, if I'm right. I, knew the answer to this one.
>> Tim Wildmon: That comes from the Greek word annoyance.
>> Steve Jordahl: What do you find in there, Ray?
>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, Ray, you're not a cat. Are you a cat person? No. Okay.
>> Fred Jackson: No.
>> Tim Wildmon: Decisively.
>> Tim Wildmon: No.
>> Steve Jordahl: Fred.
>> Tim Wildmon: What's, what's. And I know other. I'm friends with people who are cat lovers, but what is it about cats that you find appealing?
>> Fred Jackson: they sleep all day.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. They sleep all day.
>> Fred Jackson: They sleep a lot. They're really easy to take care of. They kind of take care of themselves versus. You know, Ray, you were talking off the top of the program today. Got to take the dog for a walk, Right. Two or three times a day.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: The cat, you would have to drag them on at the end of a leash. They're just very independent. and, you know, it's in the winter time, you're sitting in your east.
>> Tim Wildmon: They cuddle. They cuddle good.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. They like to come up and.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Have you pet them?
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, yeah, they do.
>> Steve Jordahl: I had a pastor who did a sermon illustration one time on the difference between cats and dogs.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, what'd he say?
>> Steve Jordahl: So a dog will look at you and say, you feed me, you take care of all my needs. Right? you are.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm here for you.
>> Steve Jordahl: You're always. You must be God. A cat says, you feed me, you take care of all my needs. You're always there for me. I must be God.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes, yes, yes. That's.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's a good one.
>> Fred Jackson: Pretty good, actually.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's a good one.
You know, back to what you were saying earlier, last hour, about your dog
You know, back to what you were saying earlier, last hour, you told that funny story about your dog, right. You, know, Satan not looking back and when you take her out for a walk and you said when she sees other dogs.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, she's a little.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or anything.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: So we have. I mentioned, yeah, we have a little maltese who's like 12 pounds, he's 13 years old and. But real healthy. But, I would like to know why a dog that small thinks it's a good idea to bark his ever loving head off at a dog that's three times his size. From a distance.
>> Fred Jackson: From a distance, Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: I just don't know what's going on there. Why you think, does he think he can take him or he's trying to scare him off from his yard or what is.
>> Fred Jackson: He's being tough from a distance.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Like a lot of us humans.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Tough from a distance.
>> Tim Wildmon: Tough from a distance. Okay. Well, I did. Now also, he Will
>> Fred Jackson: bark.
>> Tim Wildmon: He can see. we have. We have rod iron, wrought iron fence around our patio, so he can't escape at night.
>> Fred Jackson: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: But we live backed up to the woods. And he will come off the, lounge chair out of. It can be very peaceful. we're just enjoying whatever a TV show or whatever and. Or talking about Allison. And all of a sudden, like a lightning bolt, he will spring into action, barking loud. As loud as a Maltese can bark. And he's barking into the darkness out there. And evident. We, you know, he's evidently seeing squirrels
>> Fred Jackson: move around possum or something.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or something that's come into his territory.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And he wants that. He wants that animal, whatever it may. A deer. Yeah, we've had deer come up. Sure. And he will bark his head off at, So I guess it's a protective thing.
>> Fred Jackson: He's doing his job.
>> Tim Wildmon: Doesn't matter if he's, If I open the gate and say, go get him, I wonder if he would think twice about. Do I really? I can bark behind the fence.
>> Fred Jackson: That's right. I didn't sign up for the other one.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know if I could take on that coyote over there or not. I think I'm gonna stay here.
Secretary of War Pete Hegseth giving testimony to Senate Armed Forces Committee
All right, so, you're listening to today's issue. Go ahead, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: today, Secretary, of war, Secretary, of Defense, Pete Hegseth is in this Capitol Hill. He's giving testimony to the Senate Armed Forces Committee.
>> Tim Wildmon: By the way, they really did change the name of that. It's always been known as the Secretary of Defense, a cabinet position. They oversee the Pentagon and the military
>> Steve Jordahl: and the Department of Defense. Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And so when President Trump came in this time, he changed it to Department of War, which was formerly known as. When back in the World War II. Right.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, gotcha.
>> Steve Jordahl: Anyway, so our Secretary of war is with the Senate today. Yesterday he was with the House. The House Arms Services Committee. so this is a guy that you might want to do your homework if you're going to come up against instead of testimony. This is an exchange between Pete Hegseth and California Congressman.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is it an exchange or is it a one way?
>> Steve Jordahl: Jon Garamondi. It's.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, it's.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, it's a one way.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: Jon Garamondi. Anyway, Jon Garamondi, was, has called what we're in. He, called it a,
>> Fred Jackson: Quagmire.
>> Steve Jordahl: Quagmire. Right. And. And, that didn't sit well with Mr. Hegseth because it Discourages the troops. Anyway, this is the exchange cut 3.
>> Steve Hilton: The way you stain the troops when you tell them two months in, two months in. Congressman, you should know better. Shame on you, calling this a quagmire. Two months in the effort. What they've undertaken, what they've succeeded, the success on the battlefield that could create strategic opportunities, the courage of a president to confront a nuclear Iran, and you call it a quagmire. Handing propaganda to our enemies. Shame on you for that statement. And statements like that are reckless to our troops. Don't say I support the troops on one hand. And then a two month mission is a quagmire. That's a false equivalation. who you cheering for here? Who are you pulling for? Our troops are doing incredible work. They've done incredible things for the entirety of this mission and achieved incredible battlefield successes. And you sit there and go on TV for your click bait about quagmires. It undermines the mission. Your hatred for President Trump blinds you to the truth of the success of this mission and the historic stakes that the President is addressing, which the American people support.
>> Tim Wildmon: Now, what kind of takeout do you want for lunch?
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. Wow.
>> Tim Wildmon: We didn't hear what the congressman said there.
>> Steve Jordahl: He had. Well, actually, he had been making a statement and I cut off for time, but Hegseth started this rant by saying, you didn't have a question at the end of your statement. but I'd like to respond anyway. And during that statement, he called the troops that we were in a quagmire.
>> Tim Wildmon: Let me ask you this question. I asked this genuinely. I didn't hear the context of the. I heard Pete Hexith, who I like, right there. I mean, and I tell you what, he's a, He's a former Fox News television host. He is quick on his feet, and he is smart. You better be ready. if you're going to get into a discussion or a debate with him, however. is it. Can you question strategy, can you question, how it's going overall without impugning the integrity of the troops? That seems to me. Ah. Does that make sense to you, Fred?
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, absolutely. our soldiers are doing their job.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: And they need. They're doing their job. Our aviators, all of them. They're doing a great job. I think what Congressman Garamandi.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: what he was saying is that several months back, we, on a mission, the United States on a mission, went in to destroy, to my last summer, the weapons of mass destruction.
>> Tim Wildmon: Remember Yeah, I remember that. When we supposedly wiped them out.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, I forget what the name of the mission was.
>> Steve Jordahl: I'll look it up.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yep.
>> Fred Jackson: and so he said, you told us.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: the congressman is saying, he said midnight Hammer. Midnight Hammer. Thank you.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what happened last June, or whenever it was when we, the mother of
>> Steve Jordahl: all bombs, the Moab dropped.
Ray McGovern: We need guarantees that Iran won't develop nuclear weapon
>> Fred Jackson: So we bombed them out.
>> Tim Wildmon: And we said, we. We've taken care of the problem. We.
>> Fred Jackson: We took care of the problem.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: the congressman was making a point that now we're being told we need to stay there. We need guarantees that, Iran won't develop this nuclear weapon. So I'm.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is that a fair question?
>> Fred Jackson: I'm just. I'm just quoting the congressman here. Several months ago, you told us, we took him out, we took that mountain out that had contained all of these weapons. Now you're saying we need guarantees, that they will not develop a nuclear weapon. How is it, a few months ago, we took it all out, took care of it, now you're saying we still need to take care of it. So he was. He was challenging our Secretary of War on. You said this then, but you're still saying we need. We need to do something about their nuclear capabilities.
>> Tim Wildmon: Also, the word quagmire Ray triggered.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Pete Hag said, the congressman called him situation. We're in a quagmire.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you know, his point was it's a little early to call this a quagmire.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's right about that. It feels to me, I wouldn't use the word quagmire. It feels more like a stalemate. Feels like we're stuck.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: between on one hand, that the gas prices rising over here and oil rising around the world and the blockade of Iran. To me, it's almost. It's almost like we're stuck here in a game of chicken. Who's going to blink first? Will the gas price pressure. And we talked about this earlier, leading up to the midterms, will that cause Mr. Trump to find a quick exit, or is it going to work to blockade Iran long enough till they come to the negotiating table? We are stuck.
>> Tim Wildmon: I will say this.
>> Tim Wildmon: It seems unlikely to me, and I have zero inside information, but we were told that the military leaders gave President Trump, an option for further bombing in a concentrated manner that would force Iran, to the bargaining table. And the president said, no, let's give the blockade time to work. Feels like that's the right answer. I don't think. I don't think Americans want to see the bombing resume. What they want to see is this war somehow come to an end and do what we got to do with Iran and then bring oil prices down all over the world.
>> Tim Wildmon: You think it's going to end pretty soon, don't you?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, I think in answer to your question, absolutely. You can be critical of the decisions, the political decision to go in and do the war and not be critical of the troops and support the troops. You can do both.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't think Big Headcast believes that, though. Well, he said you're staining.
>> Steve Jordahl: Pete Hegseth's job is to represent the president. he does it with much vigor. I think he really believes. and I do believe that, two months is probably too early to use the quagmire, word. I think, Mr. Trump is nothing. He's got outstanding political instincts for most things, and I think he will find a way to get out of this before it carries over into the midterms. I just think as a political decision, he knows that it would be disastrous for us to still be involved in this come November when people are voting. So he will find a way. Whether it's. And he'll call it a victory. And, you know, it will be or won't be. Everybody will be able to decide whether it will be, whether it won't be. But I think he's waiting. He's giving, doing the, dotting the I's, crossing the T's to get diplomacy, every bit of a chance before he has to go in and do the more, more bombing or whatever it is to get out.
Robert Deiro: I think President Trump is at a crossroads here
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, well, the one thing I think is really up in the air, which I, I don't even know how I'm talking here. I don't know. I don't know any more than you guys know. But I'm just going to speak. I'm going to share my heart. That's what I said.
>> Tim Wildmon: Here we go.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what we do, right? I mock that because I've heard Christians say that in my whole life. I'm m going to share my heart. I'm going to share my heart. Can I share my heart?
>> Tim Wildmon: The rest of us go, oh, no, I know.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I always know what. When I've seen that happen, people come up, can I share my heart? That means, can I say something, that, that you won't analyze or I'm going to share my heart means I'm about to say something, and if you challenge it, you're challenging My heart. So whatever. So I always get suspicious when somebody says, can I share my heart? so it's usually ends like that. I don't think you can get to Iran's nuclear web, plans, the, the uranium enrichment. Short of sending the Marines in and going down those holes and finding, finding the, the boxes that say enriched uranium, I'm being a little funny there. I don't mean. It's not a funny matter. I don't think you can get to them. Okay. We were told last summer we got to them through these bombs, as you referenced early, earlier. Fred, that was not true. It was not true that the job was finished as we were led to believe by President Trump and others at the time. Now, I will say this, maybe that's what they thought at the time. So I'm not saying that President Trump intentionally misled people. I'm just saying he acted like it was done and over. And as it turns out, it wasn't. So you don't really know what to believe on that front. However, I will say that, so if your goal is we're going to stay until we go down that, every, you know, bunker in Iran and find, find out where the enriched uranium is and take it away, that's not going to happen. So that's an unattainable, unachievable goal unless you send troops in, unless you trans troops in. And that. That's not going to happen, I don't think. No, because that would be a mess.
>> Steve Jordahl: That would be a quagmire.
>> Tim Wildmon: So I don't think that's going to happen. So I think President Trump is at a crossroads here. When I mentioned earlier about, don't know, doesn't know exactly what the right thing to do at this time is. And that's not a, ah, criticism, that's just a place we find ourselves in. How long are you going to wait, with. If Iran is not going to agree to what you say, and they haven't yet, and I don't think they're going to. But you know, some people, even if they say, okay, we're not going to build a nuclear weapon, well, then you're going to say, well, how are we going to verify that?
>> Fred Jackson: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you're not going to be able to verify it because we, you don't run our country. So I don't think there's anywhere to go with this. I think it's. If I were President Trump, I'd just come home and say, if you Mess with us again, we'll be back and it'll be worse for you. That's all I'd say. I'd say. But, you know, I guess he hopes that this blockade will choke out and smoke out the Iranian leadership. And I don't think it's going to happen myself. Go ahead.
>> Fred Jackson: No, I think the way out of this right now is to say, yes, we've destroyed their navy. Yes, we've destroyed their air force and done great damage to them. we do not believe that they can develop a nuclear weapon for another 10, 15 years, but we're going to keep a close eye on them. But we're going to go home.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right? That's what I would say. What's a shame in that? I mean, I would just say that's honorable.
>> Fred Jackson: We'll work with Israel and we're going to stay.
>> Tim Wildmon: We're going to keep our bases over here. We're going to watch you. We're going to be here. If we need to come back or take care of some more business, we will. I, would do the Robert De Niro, you know, two fingers below.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Pointed toward my eyes. I'm. We're watching you.
>> Fred Jackson: We're watching.
>> Tim Wildmon: And I don't think Israel, hadn't done anything either recently, have they? In the last.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, they're in a truce of sort. Ceasefire. A ceasefire with Lebanon right now. And so far, Hezbollah has behaved itself in this.
>> Tim Wildmon: But I'm talking about Iran, I'm talking about Israel and Iran sending jets to bomb Iran.
>> Fred Jackson: No, no, no, no, no.
>> Tim Wildmon: That hadn't happened.
>> Fred Jackson: No, it hasn't.
>> Tim Wildmon: That seems to be over.
>> Fred Jackson: It's quiet on that front.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right.
>> Fred Jackson: Yep.
Can you support Israel and still be critical of government policies
>> Steve Jordahl: ah, by the way, the question you asked about. Can you support.
>> Tim Wildmon: When I shared my heart.
>> Steve Jordahl: When you shared my heart, can you support the, troops and still be critical of the policy? That's the same question a lot of people are saying and asking about Israel. Can you support Israel and still be critical of the policies that the government does?
>> Tim Wildmon: Whatever you can. I think you can.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's the question that's been being asked.
Pete Hagseth accuses Democrats of having TDS
So the Democrats, Pete Hagseth is accusing the Democrats of having TDS is basically what he's saying. And, they met.
>> Tim Wildmon: that's a news shocker.
>> Steve Jordahl: I know. Well, they met in the conference. Met.
>> Tim Wildmon: And the breaking news. Democrats have tds.
>> Fred Jackson: Go ahead.
>> Steve Jordahl: Democrats met, met. House Democrats met. And they decided that they're going to embrace the TDS thing and they have a new, they put their feelings to music. And I want to play with you the, For you, some of what came out of this, this meeting of.
>> Tim Wildmon: We. Look, we want to hear it.
>> Steve Jordahl: This is cut 13 d. S. TDS Democrats have TDS you can't catch it from kissing no, it's all inside your head what is more there's no cure Makes you dumb and immature Watch the fake news, it's atrocious See their hatred so ferocious they can scream, they can shout Some will threaten to move out and expatriate like Helen DeGeneres although it may confound you yes, it's all around you tds.
>> Tim Wildmon: TDS who did that? Who do we credit that to?
>> Steve Jordahl: That is, I don't even know who to credit that to. It's one of the memes that came up, on, my. My feed. My,
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, T.D.
>> Tim Wildmon: that's. That's very clever.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Steve Jordahl: Take off from the Beauty and the Beast, the Disney's Beauty and the Beast.
>> Fred Jackson: It's probably AI.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: What?
>> Steve Jordahl: No, that definitely is AI. I don't think they really actually did do that.
>> Fred Jackson: No.
Minnesota House of Representatives introducing bill that would penalize cities for not flying new flag
>> Steve Jordahl: so there's a, House of Representatives in Minnesota is introducing a bill that would penalize cities and counties that do not fly the new flag. A lot of people in Minnesota want to go back to the old flag. Minnesota introduced a new flag which is, a white star and a blue background. A six pointed star and a blue background. A lot of people are saying it has a striking resemblance to the Somali flag. And, so they won't fly it. But, the Minnesota House of Representatives is introducing a bill that would penalize cities and counties for not flying it. It would go into effect in 2027 if it's. And signed, the, It would penalize, any city that flies or otherwise makes use of a state flag other than the design that was, passed and accepted.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I'm gonna be paying attention to that story, Steve. Well, that's. Will you bring us an update tomorrow?
>> Steve Jordahl: I will. I will follow this like nothing else. Best, biggest, best story ever. No one's ever seen a story like it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay? They're going nuts in Minnesota. We know this. Just one.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, man.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, Minnesota, back in the 70s, I think it was, there was a Time magazine story about how this was the best state to move to and live in. That life was so good in Minnesota. The quality of life for families and everything. And it's a beautiful state. Naturally, of course, you better get ready for. You better be wetter. ready for wintertime, you know, August through June. I'm just teasing. It's not that bad. But I'm just saying that my, how things have changed. when Obama recruited, all the Somalis to come over here too, that, that changed the dynamics, in big league.
>> Fred Jackson: Minneapolis in particular.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, Minneapolis. Yeah. You get outside of the Twin Cities. That's where normal people live. That's right, in Minnesota. by the way, I've been to that boat riding on that St. Croix river up there between Minnesota and Wisconsin in the fall. Just gorgeous scenery. Yes, up there.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you.
>> Tim Wildmon: You bet.
>> Tim Wildmon: My thanks to Fred and Steve and Krish and Frank. Frank Turek joined us. Brent Creeley, our producer. Cole Greene, our, video man. We'll see you tomorrow, everybody. Trivia Friday tomorrow.
